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	<description>Getting around the Bay Area with Denis Cuff and the Queen of the Road</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/transportation/2007/05/11/color-my-bart/comment-page-1/#comment-1864</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Average speed is actually 33 mph I believe. Fantastic.

Maybe we should realize and admit we&#039;re not the most advanced anymore, and do better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Average speed is actually 33 mph I believe. Fantastic.</p>
<p>Maybe we should realize and admit we&#8217;re not the most advanced anymore, and do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Span</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Span</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When built, as one poster noted, every BART rider was to have a seat.  Thus no stantions were built on the first series of cars for the &quot;strap hangers.&quot;  Brian Stokes, the first GM, promised us a &quot;Swift, virtually noiseless and vibration-free electric train&quot;.  We got an electric train.

Average speed - 45 mph.  Noiseless - a db meter shows that BART routinely exceeds 90 db, due to unground track and tight clearances.  This exceeds OSHA limits.

In 1957 Japan designed a quiet 127 mph electric railway while here in the most advanced Western Country, we designed a scremingly loud 45 mph electric railway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When built, as one poster noted, every BART rider was to have a seat.  Thus no stantions were built on the first series of cars for the &#8220;strap hangers.&#8221;  Brian Stokes, the first GM, promised us a &#8220;Swift, virtually noiseless and vibration-free electric train&#8221;.  We got an electric train.</p>
<p>Average speed &#8211; 45 mph.  Noiseless &#8211; a db meter shows that BART routinely exceeds 90 db, due to unground track and tight clearances.  This exceeds OSHA limits.</p>
<p>In 1957 Japan designed a quiet 127 mph electric railway while here in the most advanced Western Country, we designed a scremingly loud 45 mph electric railway.</p>
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		<title>By: Inside Bay Area &#62; The Capricious Commuter &#62; poverty and the suburbs: a short commute</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inside Bay Area &#62; The Capricious Commuter &#62; poverty and the suburbs: a short commute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 05:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you see, will connect the Pittsburg/Bay Point Line, or Yellow Line, if you will, to the eastern Contra Costa County communities near the Sacramento [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you see, will connect the Pittsburg/Bay Point Line, or Yellow Line, if you will, to the eastern Contra Costa County communities near the Sacramento [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Faunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Faunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 23:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This could be a win, since the train direct to Millbrae should arrive soon enough to make transfers to Caltrain headed south possible without a 20 minute wait.

I don&#039;t see any mention of the route from  Millbrae to SFO and return.

Obviously, doing a wye at San Bruno is possible, and if the timing of the trains is right should be quick enough.

Has this been mentioned anywhere?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be a win, since the train direct to Millbrae should arrive soon enough to make transfers to Caltrain headed south possible without a 20 minute wait.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any mention of the route from  Millbrae to SFO and return.</p>
<p>Obviously, doing a wye at San Bruno is possible, and if the timing of the trains is right should be quick enough.</p>
<p>Has this been mentioned anywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Samatakah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samatakah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 16:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe because BART is the only subway system I&#039;ve ever used, I&#039;ve only had one problem taking &quot;the Pittsburg train&quot; or &quot;the Fremont train&quot; to get around.  And that was because the very first time I took BART to Oakland, my mom told me to take &quot;the Concord train&quot; and, like most native San Franciscans who never cross the bay unless they&#039;re going to Tahoe, I had no idea where the east bay cities are, I didn&#039;t know that Concord was &quot;this side&quot; of Pittsburg.


I love BART.  I&#039;ll love it more when they enact electronic cards like the Fastrak that lives in my vehicle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe because BART is the only subway system I&#8217;ve ever used, I&#8217;ve only had one problem taking &#8220;the Pittsburg train&#8221; or &#8220;the Fremont train&#8221; to get around.  And that was because the very first time I took BART to Oakland, my mom told me to take &#8220;the Concord train&#8221; and, like most native San Franciscans who never cross the bay unless they&#8217;re going to Tahoe, I had no idea where the east bay cities are, I didn&#8217;t know that Concord was &#8220;this side&#8221; of Pittsburg.</p>
<p>I love BART.  I&#8217;ll love it more when they enact electronic cards like the Fastrak that lives in my vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 07:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Referring to the lines by color makes a lot of sense. I use the SFO extension a few times per year, and I always see people with luggage trying to figure out the map.

I also like the proposed service changes. I stopped transferring to BART at Millbrae when Samtrans reduced the frequency and made all trains to into the SFO station after leaving Millbrae. It cost more and didn&#039;t save any time. I no longer commute this direction but would look into trying it again for Sharks games and the like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referring to the lines by color makes a lot of sense. I use the SFO extension a few times per year, and I always see people with luggage trying to figure out the map.</p>
<p>I also like the proposed service changes. I stopped transferring to BART at Millbrae when Samtrans reduced the frequency and made all trains to into the SFO station after leaving Millbrae. It cost more and didn&#8217;t save any time. I no longer commute this direction but would look into trying it again for Sharks games and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: david vartanoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>david vartanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 03:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Transit and commuter services figured these things out decades ago.  Give the rider the easiest ways to decode the system.  But, BART deliberately threw out the &quot;old subway&quot; model for a Buck Rogers fantasy.  They originally had no hand grabs on the ceilings because&quot;everyone would have a seat&quot;.  NO signage on the actual trains because the electronic signs would tell all.  &quot;Destination signs may be giving wrong information. Please listen to announcements  from the train operator.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transit and commuter services figured these things out decades ago.  Give the rider the easiest ways to decode the system.  But, BART deliberately threw out the &#8220;old subway&#8221; model for a Buck Rogers fantasy.  They originally had no hand grabs on the ceilings because&#8221;everyone would have a seat&#8221;.  NO signage on the actual trains because the electronic signs would tell all.  &#8220;Destination signs may be giving wrong information. Please listen to announcements  from the train operator.&#8221;</p>
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