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	<title>Comments on: it&#8217;s ok. Oakland&#8217;s got enough bullets.</title>
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		<title>By: DensityDuck</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/transportation/2007/12/19/its-ok-oaklands-got-enough-bullets/comment-page-1/#comment-2268</link>
		<dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem that the HSR project is having is the same project that commuter rail has always had in America.

The places where the politicians work are not the places where the commuters work.  And the politicians want to &lt;i&gt;see&lt;/i&gt; &quot;their&quot; money being spent.  They want to be able to look out the window of their high-rise office building and feel the same thrill that a little boy feels when he watches his model train going around in circles.  They want to have a tangible, physical &lt;i&gt;reminder&lt;/i&gt; that they are In Charge, that they Made Their Mark, that they Left A Lasting Impression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem that the HSR project is having is the same project that commuter rail has always had in America.</p>
<p>The places where the politicians work are not the places where the commuters work.  And the politicians want to <i>see</i> &#8220;their&#8221; money being spent.  They want to be able to look out the window of their high-rise office building and feel the same thrill that a little boy feels when he watches his model train going around in circles.  They want to have a tangible, physical <i>reminder</i> that they are In Charge, that they Made Their Mark, that they Left A Lasting Impression.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Span</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Span</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[High speed rail makes a number of assertions that are eerily similar to ones made by BART in 1957.  First, it will be profitable and need no subsidies (just like BART which had to scramble for money when that proved to be incorrect).

Then the construction costs will likely approach double what is being estimated.  See Big Fat Lies at the following web site:

http://baycrossings.com/dispnews.asp?id=399

No high speed rail in the world is profitable except for in Japan.  Why we believe that California high speed rail would be profitable is merely wishful thinking.

And let me irritate a whole lot of folks by suggesting that the alignment should be the Altamont Pass, where there is an existing right-of-way and the Palmdale Route avoids a whole lot of problems.

I support CA High Speed Rail but we have to be realistic about the warts, problems and incredible costs that will go with this program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High speed rail makes a number of assertions that are eerily similar to ones made by BART in 1957.  First, it will be profitable and need no subsidies (just like BART which had to scramble for money when that proved to be incorrect).</p>
<p>Then the construction costs will likely approach double what is being estimated.  See Big Fat Lies at the following web site:</p>
<p><a href="http://baycrossings.com/dispnews.asp?id=399" rel="nofollow">http://baycrossings.com/dispnews.asp?id=399</a></p>
<p>No high speed rail in the world is profitable except for in Japan.  Why we believe that California high speed rail would be profitable is merely wishful thinking.</p>
<p>And let me irritate a whole lot of folks by suggesting that the alignment should be the Altamont Pass, where there is an existing right-of-way and the Palmdale Route avoids a whole lot of problems.</p>
<p>I support CA High Speed Rail but we have to be realistic about the warts, problems and incredible costs that will go with this program.</p>
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