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	<title>Comments on: End of the line for upgraded BART train service</title>
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		<title>By: Peggy Vertin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy Vertin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they should call it the BARF train instead of the BART train because everything about BART makes me sick.  Loudsy service for evening and weekend workers is discriminatory.  I&#039;ve paid taxes on this system since 1970 and I want friggin evening service as it was promised on a CLEAN TRAIN.  Why did BART let all the techs leave?  Now is nothing but one problem after another that they try to hide under guise of maintenance.  I&#039;m with the poster above, BART Management needs to cut their bonuses and turn a few lights off, etc.  Ticket machines don&#039;t work, people just jump right over the fare gates and your station agents don&#039;t care while I spend $300 plus a month BART filfthy pukey stinky unrine train BART.  The State of California needs to make BART get it right or get out.  The $8,000,000 latest error at the Dublin/Pleasanton station because the passenger walkway isn&#039;t up to Cal-Trans Code is just one example of many poor BART management decisions.  Before that, it was bad welding.  That station was supposed to have opened 8/09.  Those people are still stuck with at least a six minute delay in the evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should call it the BARF train instead of the BART train because everything about BART makes me sick.  Loudsy service for evening and weekend workers is discriminatory.  I&#8217;ve paid taxes on this system since 1970 and I want friggin evening service as it was promised on a CLEAN TRAIN.  Why did BART let all the techs leave?  Now is nothing but one problem after another that they try to hide under guise of maintenance.  I&#8217;m with the poster above, BART Management needs to cut their bonuses and turn a few lights off, etc.  Ticket machines don&#8217;t work, people just jump right over the fare gates and your station agents don&#8217;t care while I spend $300 plus a month BART filfthy pukey stinky unrine train BART.  The State of California needs to make BART get it right or get out.  The $8,000,000 latest error at the Dublin/Pleasanton station because the passenger walkway isn&#8217;t up to Cal-Trans Code is just one example of many poor BART management decisions.  Before that, it was bad welding.  That station was supposed to have opened 8/09.  Those people are still stuck with at least a six minute delay in the evening.</p>
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		<title>By: East Lake Biker</title>
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		<dc:creator>East Lake Biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leaving the City with in the evenings there was this 12 min. gap between trains when both the P/B and D/P were bunched together.  I just needed to get back to Oakland, so even with 15 minute headways there was a wait.  Hopefully the timing is better with 20 min. service (trains 10 min. apart).

Having just 1 line servicing the penninsula (again) is going to suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving the City with in the evenings there was this 12 min. gap between trains when both the P/B and D/P were bunched together.  I just needed to get back to Oakland, so even with 15 minute headways there was a wait.  Hopefully the timing is better with 20 min. service (trains 10 min. apart).</p>
<p>Having just 1 line servicing the penninsula (again) is going to suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would make sense. The question is: how to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would make sense. The question is: how to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod DellaChiesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarrod DellaChiesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sooooo, as ridership declines temporarily due to A) Lower prices and B) Horrible service, maintenance, etc they reduce service... Just in time for gas prices to hit over $3.00 again - when ridership is about to rise again. All this to save a &quot;measly&quot; $1,000,000 a year?! How about, better service quality to create a better transit environment so that MORE people will want to ride and so they will gain an extra $1,000?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooooo, as ridership declines temporarily due to A) Lower prices and B) Horrible service, maintenance, etc they reduce service&#8230; Just in time for gas prices to hit over $3.00 again &#8211; when ridership is about to rise again. All this to save a &#8220;measly&#8221; $1,000,000 a year?! How about, better service quality to create a better transit environment so that MORE people will want to ride and so they will gain an extra $1,000?</p>
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		<title>By: david vartanoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>david vartanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>didn&#039;t realize they screwed up the south end.
The Bay Fair snafu is classic though--all that cute trackage S of the station instead of a THREE track two platform set up so that Dublin in off hours could be a simple shuttle making perfect connections.  I really loathe the late night timing coming back to Ashby from Dublin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>didn&#8217;t realize they screwed up the south end.<br />
The Bay Fair snafu is classic though&#8211;all that cute trackage S of the station instead of a THREE track two platform set up so that Dublin in off hours could be a simple shuttle making perfect connections.  I really loathe the late night timing coming back to Ashby from Dublin.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeOnBike</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeOnBike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, when they went to 15 minute headways, they also maid the transfer times longer and less convenient.

So if your trip required a transfer, like between SF and Fremont, your station-to-station time was about the same.

And what used to be an easy transfer at Bay Fair between Fremont and SF became an old-fashioned downstairs transfer at 12th St.

Oddly, they still had 20 minute headways during the day on Saturday.  With a 25 minute gap around 6pm before switching to 15 minute headways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, when they went to 15 minute headways, they also maid the transfer times longer and less convenient.</p>
<p>So if your trip required a transfer, like between SF and Fremont, your station-to-station time was about the same.</p>
<p>And what used to be an easy transfer at Bay Fair between Fremont and SF became an old-fashioned downstairs transfer at 12th St.</p>
<p>Oddly, they still had 20 minute headways during the day on Saturday.  With a 25 minute gap around 6pm before switching to 15 minute headways.</p>
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		<title>By: david vartanoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>david vartanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a reminder, this so-called upgrade is what BART PROMISED before revenue service began. BART paid for a study in the 70&#039;s which showed passengers dislike waiting for trains more than slower trips.  Maybe the BoD should reread the study.  If the $1 million figure is correct this is classic penny pinching--they could easily save that much by cutting executive bonuses, leaving a few more lights off during the day, or other belt tightening instead of a maneuver guaranteed to disincent ridership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a reminder, this so-called upgrade is what BART PROMISED before revenue service began. BART paid for a study in the 70&#8242;s which showed passengers dislike waiting for trains more than slower trips.  Maybe the BoD should reread the study.  If the $1 million figure is correct this is classic penny pinching&#8211;they could easily save that much by cutting executive bonuses, leaving a few more lights off during the day, or other belt tightening instead of a maneuver guaranteed to disincent ridership.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I appreciated the more frequent trains, but I&#039;m not a daily rider. I use it to and from SFO for flights, from Millbrae to home after late night Caltrain rides, and to Berkeley for theatre once in a while. The extra wait after the theatre will probably be the worst, as we usually get 3 car trains and they get crowded after the show until the MacArthur transfer.

I will really hate paying $8 bucks at SFO AND having to wait longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I appreciated the more frequent trains, but I&#8217;m not a daily rider. I use it to and from SFO for flights, from Millbrae to home after late night Caltrain rides, and to Berkeley for theatre once in a while. The extra wait after the theatre will probably be the worst, as we usually get 3 car trains and they get crowded after the show until the MacArthur transfer.</p>
<p>I will really hate paying $8 bucks at SFO AND having to wait longer.</p>
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