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		<title>By: Judi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure glad that there are so many of my fellow citizens who still hold the constitution and our rights as important. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one around who does not agree with the narrow minded left thinkers. (Well, many in my family are pretty conservative)
I just came upon this posting as i looked for when the parade begins.  I still do not know but I am making a sign in support of the minutemen and our troops to hold as I watch this celebration of our Freedoms. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure glad that there are so many of my fellow citizens who still hold the constitution and our rights as important. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one around who does not agree with the narrow minded left thinkers. (Well, many in my family are pretty conservative)<br />
I just came upon this posting as i looked for when the parade begins.  I still do not know but I am making a sign in support of the minutemen and our troops to hold as I watch this celebration of our Freedoms. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more than easy to find out the cost of illegal immigration, but for you folks who would like a helping hand here are a couple links:

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersf134
FAIR Federation for American Immigration Reform


http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html
Center for Immigration Studies

As for a historical birthday party celebration, which is what the 4th of July is all about you may want to check out the History and Origin of the Minutemen of the American Colonies.

And lastly, everyone should be thanking the Fremont Minutemen for helping to preserve your constitutional rights to free speech and assembly.  Those very rights that are under attack by many American-hating groups and individuals such as Councilman Cho who has proposed that we NOT celebrate our national holiday of the 4th of July, but instead further dilute our soverienty and national identity by replacing the day with an &quot;International Day and Parade&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more than easy to find out the cost of illegal immigration, but for you folks who would like a helping hand here are a couple links:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersf134" rel="nofollow">http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersf134</a><br />
FAIR Federation for American Immigration Reform</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html</a><br />
Center for Immigration Studies</p>
<p>As for a historical birthday party celebration, which is what the 4th of July is all about you may want to check out the History and Origin of the Minutemen of the American Colonies.</p>
<p>And lastly, everyone should be thanking the Fremont Minutemen for helping to preserve your constitutional rights to free speech and assembly.  Those very rights that are under attack by many American-hating groups and individuals such as Councilman Cho who has proposed that we NOT celebrate our national holiday of the 4th of July, but instead further dilute our soverienty and national identity by replacing the day with an &#8220;International Day and Parade&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  Jon Simon Says:
June 26th, 2008 at 8:17 am

What a great country, where we get to hear bigots whine about being excluded as they try to exclude others.
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And Jon Simon?
Do you mean to call Ray Herrera and Lupe Moreno both Minutemen &amp; woman BIGOTS?
Making a fool of yourself isn&#039;t cool Jon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  Jon Simon Says:<br />
June 26th, 2008 at 8:17 am</p>
<p>What a great country, where we get to hear bigots whine about being excluded as they try to exclude others.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>And Jon Simon?<br />
Do you mean to call Ray Herrera and Lupe Moreno both Minutemen &amp; woman BIGOTS?<br />
Making a fool of yourself isn&#8217;t cool Jon!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Minutemen are as Americans are Abe Lincoln and George Washington.

Why aren&#039;t they allowed in a 4th of July Parade?

Oh yes Fremont is near San Francisco.
Says it all doesn&#039;t it?

PU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Minutemen are as Americans are Abe Lincoln and George Washington.</p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t they allowed in a 4th of July Parade?</p>
<p>Oh yes Fremont is near San Francisco.<br />
Says it all doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>PU.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an eye-opener I have had today while reading all comments.

Interesting how some people need to take the word &quot;illegal&quot; out of illegal immigrant - but if someone stole your car, that word &quot;illegal&quot; sure would be in there.

I don&#039;t have a problem banning people from activities who are breaking our laws, no matter which law it is.  How is being &quot;Patriotic&quot; a crime?  People who are pro-amnesty are condoning illegal behavior.  We can throw an American in jail for stealing and identity theft.  Why not an illegal immigrant?

I don&#039;t see where a &quot;patch of ground&quot; is an issue if that patch of ground is in the United States of America.  When you have people stealing a patch of ground in this Country, you will have an issue.  Open borders do not work.

Jon, you house, feed, and clothe, every illegal immigrant as long as you pay taxes.  Who else pays for Public Health Services, Public Schools, etc.?

Lois, thank you for seeing the big picture here.

Reality check here:  Who would let their children run all over someone elses backyard or front yard without that neighbors permission?  I would expect my neighbors to respect my property.

If you are not a legal resident, you would not be able to work (if employers upheld our laws)and therefore, would be unable to pay taxes.  You would be unable to be a viable assest to this Country.

Our Government gives away medical services, educational services, and even illegal employment to people who do not want to fit into this Country&#039;s way of living.

Until I can find a Country other than this one to live in, I will not give up my fight against ILLEGAL immigrants and the politicians willing to sell us out abroad.

The Minutemen are my heros as are the men and women in our Armed Services.  I thank you for your patriotism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an eye-opener I have had today while reading all comments.</p>
<p>Interesting how some people need to take the word &#8220;illegal&#8221; out of illegal immigrant &#8211; but if someone stole your car, that word &#8220;illegal&#8221; sure would be in there.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem banning people from activities who are breaking our laws, no matter which law it is.  How is being &#8220;Patriotic&#8221; a crime?  People who are pro-amnesty are condoning illegal behavior.  We can throw an American in jail for stealing and identity theft.  Why not an illegal immigrant?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see where a &#8220;patch of ground&#8221; is an issue if that patch of ground is in the United States of America.  When you have people stealing a patch of ground in this Country, you will have an issue.  Open borders do not work.</p>
<p>Jon, you house, feed, and clothe, every illegal immigrant as long as you pay taxes.  Who else pays for Public Health Services, Public Schools, etc.?</p>
<p>Lois, thank you for seeing the big picture here.</p>
<p>Reality check here:  Who would let their children run all over someone elses backyard or front yard without that neighbors permission?  I would expect my neighbors to respect my property.</p>
<p>If you are not a legal resident, you would not be able to work (if employers upheld our laws)and therefore, would be unable to pay taxes.  You would be unable to be a viable assest to this Country.</p>
<p>Our Government gives away medical services, educational services, and even illegal employment to people who do not want to fit into this Country&#8217;s way of living.</p>
<p>Until I can find a Country other than this one to live in, I will not give up my fight against ILLEGAL immigrants and the politicians willing to sell us out abroad.</p>
<p>The Minutemen are my heros as are the men and women in our Armed Services.  I thank you for your patriotism.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lois says, &quot;...it is not an exaggeration of how much it costs Americans on illegals. I quoted from well informed sources&quot;. Lois, I&#039;m guessing that&#039;s your answer to my question to you regarding the $338 billion spent each year on illegals. Okay...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lois says, &#8220;&#8230;it is not an exaggeration of how much it costs Americans on illegals. I quoted from well informed sources&#8221;. Lois, I&#8217;m guessing that&#8217;s your answer to my question to you regarding the $338 billion spent each year on illegals. Okay&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zorro, have you not heard LaRaza and the likes of them talk of wanting to take over this country, claim it as  theirs?  They want this richly developed country, they want their culture here…they want to destroy the American culture. They can’t do anything in their south of the border countries, so they figure they can come here, and develop their culture here…..possibly via the NAU.   Smart Americans will not let this happen.

I am speaking for myself, as an American citizen, I can’t speak for my brave Minutemen friends.   My Minutemen friends, have never shown a lack of respect for other peoples. They have the backbone of our forefathers.  However, we all have witnessed the vile behavior of Mexican gangbangers, and their socialist friends, their physical attacks on our peaceful group.  It happened in 2006. We&#039;ve been spit upon, sprayed, had Marxist Mexicans in our face, seen a lot of finger waves, had threats, because we choose to exercise our peaceful assembly, freedom of speech rights.  We have been to several rallies, and have been faced with people from south of the border, and they covet what we have, they want to go ahead of the line, bypass well mannered people from around the world, that choose to come here  the right way. I don’t think immigration should be made easier.  Immigrants of years ago, had requirements, and fulfilled them in order to become citizens…they waited in line respectfully.

What is culturally intolerant?  My wanting to retain a strong American culture?  Sir, what Americans have done, is to be  too tolerant.  Being too tolerant has led us where we are today…on the verge of the NAU, a disaster to come.  Being too tolerant has led Europe into a horrible fix with the European Union.   It’s one thing for a different cultural people to celebrate in their privacy, but just don’t make demands, to change the American culture.  Many, many  years ago, my former fiance’s  family came from Hungary, they learned impeccable English, learned the Constitution, had to have sponsors, never went on the dole, had health checks…they came here legally.  They spoke Hungarian/German at home, but when they went into the outside world, they spoke English.  They learned, assimilated into the American culture.  They did not try to change our culture, or our laws to suit themselves.  They didn’t make special demands.

I personally would STOP all immigration, or at least slow it down greatly.  I am a compassionate person, but Americans have to be smart too.  I’d rather help needy people, in their lands, teach them to help themselves.  Overpopulation breeds poverty.

By the way, it is not an exaggeration of how much it costs Americans on illegals.  I quoted from well informed sources.  Besides their upkeep, we spend millions on them in prisons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zorro, have you not heard LaRaza and the likes of them talk of wanting to take over this country, claim it as  theirs?  They want this richly developed country, they want their culture here…they want to destroy the American culture. They can’t do anything in their south of the border countries, so they figure they can come here, and develop their culture here…..possibly via the NAU.   Smart Americans will not let this happen.</p>
<p>I am speaking for myself, as an American citizen, I can’t speak for my brave Minutemen friends.   My Minutemen friends, have never shown a lack of respect for other peoples. They have the backbone of our forefathers.  However, we all have witnessed the vile behavior of Mexican gangbangers, and their socialist friends, their physical attacks on our peaceful group.  It happened in 2006. We&#8217;ve been spit upon, sprayed, had Marxist Mexicans in our face, seen a lot of finger waves, had threats, because we choose to exercise our peaceful assembly, freedom of speech rights.  We have been to several rallies, and have been faced with people from south of the border, and they covet what we have, they want to go ahead of the line, bypass well mannered people from around the world, that choose to come here  the right way. I don’t think immigration should be made easier.  Immigrants of years ago, had requirements, and fulfilled them in order to become citizens…they waited in line respectfully.</p>
<p>What is culturally intolerant?  My wanting to retain a strong American culture?  Sir, what Americans have done, is to be  too tolerant.  Being too tolerant has led us where we are today…on the verge of the NAU, a disaster to come.  Being too tolerant has led Europe into a horrible fix with the European Union.   It’s one thing for a different cultural people to celebrate in their privacy, but just don’t make demands, to change the American culture.  Many, many  years ago, my former fiance’s  family came from Hungary, they learned impeccable English, learned the Constitution, had to have sponsors, never went on the dole, had health checks…they came here legally.  They spoke Hungarian/German at home, but when they went into the outside world, they spoke English.  They learned, assimilated into the American culture.  They did not try to change our culture, or our laws to suit themselves.  They didn’t make special demands.</p>
<p>I personally would STOP all immigration, or at least slow it down greatly.  I am a compassionate person, but Americans have to be smart too.  I’d rather help needy people, in their lands, teach them to help themselves.  Overpopulation breeds poverty.</p>
<p>By the way, it is not an exaggeration of how much it costs Americans on illegals.  I quoted from well informed sources.  Besides their upkeep, we spend millions on them in prisons.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, Livermore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter, Livermore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY JON SIMON,
Way to set off another firestorm in California! This blog is hot! What a great country, where we get to have freedom of speech, now only if the City of Fremont and the July 4th parade organizers can recognize another important part of the 1st Amendment, the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

March on Minutemen... Free Men... Free Soil... Fremont!

DON&#039;T TREAD ON ME!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY JON SIMON,<br />
Way to set off another firestorm in California! This blog is hot! What a great country, where we get to have freedom of speech, now only if the City of Fremont and the July 4th parade organizers can recognize another important part of the 1st Amendment, the right of the people peaceably to assemble.</p>
<p>March on Minutemen&#8230; Free Men&#8230; Free Soil&#8230; Fremont!</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T TREAD ON ME!</p>
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		<title>By: marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony can be overwhelming.  It&#039;s almost a cliche at this point, but those who claim to be the most tolerant are the furthest from it.  Even the &quot;Anti-Hate Alliance&quot; invokes the image of a rigid mandate where intolerance will not be tolerated.  Do they hate the haters?  Nobody knows.

I have a case in point for some to ponder, and that is the 2006 slaying of Alia Ansari (this is the Afghan woman gunned down in Centerville).  For weeks after the murder, the template was that of racial tensions in Fremont.  How the white establishment were incapable of tolerating the new Afghan community.  All Bay Area newspapers editorialized this point.  Every evening news program ran a segment on the &quot;racial unrest&quot; in Fremont.  I&#039;m sure the apparent level of bigotry caused Jon Simon to punch a hole in his bedroom wall.  We were, according to some, intolerant. And violently so.

As it ended up, a Latino thug murdered Mrs Ansari.

One has to realize the burden it can be to constantly be accused of racism and bigotry, and how some are justifiably sensitive to such accusations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony can be overwhelming.  It&#8217;s almost a cliche at this point, but those who claim to be the most tolerant are the furthest from it.  Even the &#8220;Anti-Hate Alliance&#8221; invokes the image of a rigid mandate where intolerance will not be tolerated.  Do they hate the haters?  Nobody knows.</p>
<p>I have a case in point for some to ponder, and that is the 2006 slaying of Alia Ansari (this is the Afghan woman gunned down in Centerville).  For weeks after the murder, the template was that of racial tensions in Fremont.  How the white establishment were incapable of tolerating the new Afghan community.  All Bay Area newspapers editorialized this point.  Every evening news program ran a segment on the &#8220;racial unrest&#8221; in Fremont.  I&#8217;m sure the apparent level of bigotry caused Jon Simon to punch a hole in his bedroom wall.  We were, according to some, intolerant. And violently so.</p>
<p>As it ended up, a Latino thug murdered Mrs Ansari.</p>
<p>One has to realize the burden it can be to constantly be accused of racism and bigotry, and how some are justifiably sensitive to such accusations.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very true Marty.

It&#039;s funny how the &quot;anti-hate&quot; crowd ends up doing the most hating. Like in 2007 when a leader of the Fremont Anti-Hate Alliance (which &quot;innocent&quot; Jon Simmons is a member of) violently attacked one of our members at a &#039;tolerance&#039; meeting. This attacker was a UCC Reverend, I believe, who got upset when our 70+ year old Minutewoman questioned if any hate crimes in Fremont were really legitimate. The good Reverend shaked her off her chair, knocking her to the floor, and then ran out of the building! We pressed no charges out of respect to the Alliance, but did file a police report.

The point is Fremont has not only trumped free speech for the sake of so-called &quot;police expenses&quot; (which no one seems able to presently account for) but is violating her own &#039;protected persons policies&#039; which forbids discrimination for many things, including political views. Mind you, these anti-discrimination poilicies were authored through the Human Relations Commission, of which the AHA is a appendage (or vice-versa).

We want the City to reform itself. That&#039;s it. We&#039;re not interested in anything else but ending these double standards and getting back to rule of law. This is what the 4rth is all about--celebrating a people ruled by law not by the caprice of men. In Fremont we got a bunch of politicians who&#039;ve swallowed the pill of political correctness and won&#039;t recognize the rights of their own law-abiding residents.

Believe me you&#039;d be amazed on how these people understand &quot;peaceful assembly&quot; and &quot;equality under the law&quot;. It&#039;s truly amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very true Marty.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how the &#8220;anti-hate&#8221; crowd ends up doing the most hating. Like in 2007 when a leader of the Fremont Anti-Hate Alliance (which &#8220;innocent&#8221; Jon Simmons is a member of) violently attacked one of our members at a &#8216;tolerance&#8217; meeting. This attacker was a UCC Reverend, I believe, who got upset when our 70+ year old Minutewoman questioned if any hate crimes in Fremont were really legitimate. The good Reverend shaked her off her chair, knocking her to the floor, and then ran out of the building! We pressed no charges out of respect to the Alliance, but did file a police report.</p>
<p>The point is Fremont has not only trumped free speech for the sake of so-called &#8220;police expenses&#8221; (which no one seems able to presently account for) but is violating her own &#8216;protected persons policies&#8217; which forbids discrimination for many things, including political views. Mind you, these anti-discrimination poilicies were authored through the Human Relations Commission, of which the AHA is a appendage (or vice-versa).</p>
<p>We want the City to reform itself. That&#8217;s it. We&#8217;re not interested in anything else but ending these double standards and getting back to rule of law. This is what the 4rth is all about&#8211;celebrating a people ruled by law not by the caprice of men. In Fremont we got a bunch of politicians who&#8217;ve swallowed the pill of political correctness and won&#8217;t recognize the rights of their own law-abiding residents.</p>
<p>Believe me you&#8217;d be amazed on how these people understand &#8220;peaceful assembly&#8221; and &#8220;equality under the law&#8221;. It&#8217;s truly amazing.</p>
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