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Fremont has a Tea Party group

disney tea partyClick here to learn more about them.

It looks like they’re organizing to defeat Pete Stark, or at least keep him from topping 70 percent of the vote in November.

They’ll be “vetting” Stark’s Democratic challenger, Justin Jelincic, 10 a.m. Saturday at the Fremont Main Library.

Matt Artz

  • Jon Simon

    I’m curious about how much of an overlap is there between the Minutemen, Tea Party, and Constitutional Republican memberships. Anybody know?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjbPZAMked0 yeahrighty

    Yeah Pete Stark thinks US debt is good and the more the better, which makes the US richer. See for yourself
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjbPZAMked0

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com/ Marty

    Jon, Not sure if you’ve read the NY Times/CBS Tea Party poll (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html?scp=1&sq=tea%20party%20poll&st=cse), but compare their analysis to your perception of Minutemen.

    The article has a lot of tid-bits that are obvious to me but may be stunning to my left-of-center friends. Examples:

    “Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower socioeconomic class.

    “Most send their children to public schools. A plurality do not think Sarah Palin is qualified to be president, and, despite their push for smaller government, they think that Social Security and Medicare are worth the cost to taxpayers.

    “Tea Party supporters tend to be Republican, white, male, married and older than 45.”

  • Fremont Lifer

    The money behind the Tea Parties comes from Freedomworks and other conservative PAC’s. The PAC money comes from the Koch Foundation, Richard Mellon Scaife, The Olin Foundation, the Coors family and other reliable funders of right wing infrastructure including Exxon Mobil.
    http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/koch-industries-denies-funding-freedomworks

    The immigration debate has increased the coffers of the Minuteman PAC; the Minuteman PAC was established in December 2005 as one of two PACs that form the political action arm of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps (MCDC).

    The majority of contributions to the Minuteman PAC are in amounts of less than $200, the minimum threshold to require itemized disclosures to the Federal Elections Commission, so it’s difficult to gauge the geographic range of support for the group.
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2009/spring/money-the-minutemen

  • John

    I am no fan of Pete Stark, I think he is too liberal. But until the republicans quit running Atilla-the-Hun types against him, we have no choice but to keep Stark in office. Now if the republicans could actually find a moderate, near centrist candidate that would be able to compromise with his fellow congressman, then they might have a chance. Although I in no way support the Tea party extremists, I do agree that the current group of “just say no to everything” republicans (in both the CA legislature and US Congress) have to go because they contribute nothing to the process. Its quite sad really, they are bereft of ideas, support big for-profit health insurance companies and now are supporting wall street by telling us they did no harm in the recent financial crisis.

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com/ Marty

    “[Republicans] are supporting wall street by telling us they did no harm in the recent financial crisis”

    There is not one politician, Republican or Democrat who has even come close to stating that position.

  • Bruce

    Marty: I think you are right about that, but the positions the Repub. senators are taking seem pretty un-constructive. I think they are just posturing for their base while they extract a few more concessions, the quote I heard this morning was “they’ve bought the house, now they are arguing over what color to paint it”.

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com/ Marty

    Bruce, I cant determine the broader goals of the Republicans. But Obama’s treasury wants to set aside $50B for TARP 2 just in case the sh*t hits the fan again – this is a key provision in his regulation overhaul. I cant say if this is a good idea or not, but…

    The Repubs have raised the obvious truth that legislating a bailout before a crisis incentivizes overleveraging by the banks, which is what got us into this crisis in the first place.

    To add insult, Obama opened his speech yesterday by affirming his commitment to debate, as long as we don’t debate the $50B set aside for TARP 2.

    He then insinuated that push-back to his regulatory overhaul is akin to the push-back Roosevelt received when floating the creation of the FDIC in the 1930′s. I’d say that the creation of the FDIC was intended to protect the consumer, while every single one of Obama’s financial policies were intended to pad the losses of the financial industry.

    This juxtaposition compiled with Obama’s penchant for lecturing his country on ills that were facilitated by members of his own economic team* is beyond arrogance.

    …Just the humble view of the majority.

    (*Google Brooksley Born, particularly the PBS series)

  • Bruce

    I’ll have to review your points about TARP offline. But I think having a unified regulation scheme is a good thing.

    A few years ago Citimortgage lost my pay-off for 5 months during a refinancing. I called them more than 30 times, always talking to some new clueless idiot who had just been acquired from some other bank. All they would tell me was that I had to keep paying my old mortgage because it was not paid off. Finally after 5 months they found the pay-off and sent me a letter saying “never mind”. My credit rating still has some negatives because of this episode.

    When I tried to find someone to complain to, I ended up at the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, which office is not set up to take consumer complaints. Basicly Citimortgage could do whatever they wanted, no help for me.

    May they rot in hell! I want them to have to answer to someone that isn’t in their pocket. I think the new bill moves in that direction, maybe not far enough.

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com/ Marty

    I’ve had similar experiences on the consumer end. If you think I am an aggressive personality on this blog, then picture me once a bank pulls the crap you describe. I don’t stop until I have the Attorney General on the line. But I don’t think these new regs will address our experiences.

    I think the time to make the titans of finance pay for their malfeasance has passed. I am a very angry that Obama missed that opportunity in early 2009.

  • Charlotte Allen

    Let me remind Marty that the orginal TARP bailout was passed during the Bush administration, and that it was 8 years of Republican economic policies that led up to the near complete collapse of our financial system. I certainly don’t agree with every policy of the current administration, but I sure do appreciate the fact that they managed to prop up the economy so that everyone’s bank accounts didn’t vanish into thin air.

    And why is it too late now for financial regulation? Because it’s Obama proposing it? I suspect that if it was Sarah Palin calling for more bank regulation, Marty would be a wildly enthusiastic supporter of the idea.

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com/ Marty

    Charlotte, you have succeeded in turning a complex issue into a pedestrian observation. A Democrat controlled congress passed TARP, not George Bush.

  • Charlotte Allen

    Marty, how about answering my question. Why is it too late now for bank regulation?

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com/ Marty

    I never said it was too late. I said that Obama missed a once in a generation opportunity in early 2009 when he had broad support from the country in general terms, especially at a time when a populous surge that was smoldering could have provided the backing required to really reign in these financial terrorists.

    I’m not sure what happened to this guy. I really think 2009 was a time in history when America needed Barack Obama as he was advertised in 2008. Instead we got another crony capitalist.

    Expect the coming changes to be even less trivial than the health care overhaul, universally speaking. His financial advisers are too entrenched to have it any other way. Look no further than the SEC suit against Goldman. The SEC brings civil charges and a couple of petty fines. The DOJ brings criminal charges.

  • VOR

    Well, we now know what the SEC was doing, and it wasn’t watching over Wall St.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/comments_blog/2010/04/sec-staffers-download-porn-while-wall-street-crumbled.html

    And both Standard & Poors and Moody’s were in bed with Wall St. as well issuing AAA ratings to crap stocks and bonds.

  • bbox231

    “To add insult, Obama opened his speech yesterday by affirming his commitment to debate, as long as we don’t debate the $50B set aside for TARP 2. ”

    Marty, Marty – - talk about “pedestrian observations” !!! – at least Obama simply placed reasonable limits on the scope of topics to debate – - –

    Meanwhile – the RNC’s latest Gubernatorial can-do-date is busy telling Jerry Brown that she’s “too busy” to debate – AT ALL . . . .

    http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_14915601

    MAYBE that’s why she didn’t bother to fulfill her OTHER democratic responsibilty – you know – by NOT voting all those years – - – because she we too busy.

    .. and someone please let me know how the heck this person can lay claim to any modicum of fiscal responsibility when she’s outspent every California gubernatorial race by at least an order of magnitude !

    I guess if you can’t beat ‘em in discussion – you can always try to outspend ‘em.

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com/ Marty

    Box, your reasoning (and grouping) of all points is a bit strange. I’d discuss this with you further, but I’d consider such an exchange outside the reasonable limits guys like me and Obama place on topics of debate.

  • bbox231

    LOL – - !!

    Oh, M- A- R- T- E- E –

    sooo, funny.

    Assuming the Mr. Hyde role ?

    Or maybe the meds kicked in.

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com Marty

    I have some time to bite, Mr. Box.

    “..at least Obama simply placed reasonable limits on the scope of topics to debate”

    You’re a fascist to even think an American president of any stripe has the mandate to make that decision. Period.

    “meanwhile – the RNC’s latest Gubernatorial can-do-date is busy telling Jerry Brown that she’s “too busy” to debate”

    Not quite. Brown wants to interfere with the opposition party primary. I suppose CA Democrats are extremely insecure in this respect, since they employed this strategy of picking their opposition in the general election before – as when Gray Davis ran ads against Riordan in favor of running against Bill Simon, who was the weaker candidate. Brown knows he is toast against Whitman, and hopes he could push Poisner into the lead, after which he can defeat him easily in November.

    “and someone please let me know how the heck this person can lay claim to any modicum of fiscal responsibility when she’s outspent every California gubernatorial race by at least an order of magnitude”

    Your logic does not follow. But, I would surely pick the candidate who put her money where her mouth is, compared to one who is funded by the public employee unions.

    “I guess if you can’t beat ‘em in discussion – you can always try to outspend ‘em.”

    Brown has discussed less than he has spent, which puts him in a bit of a predicament.

  • bbox231

    AH HAH HAHA HA HA !!!!

    The little blue one, Marty.
    You forgot the little blue one . . .

  • VOR

    Why use my words when someone else can say it so well and so succinctly…

    http://videos.mediaite.com/video/Bill-Maher-New-Rules-U-S-Defici

  • Fremont_Bill

    The tea party support three different candidates for Governer, all three lost.
    Is the tea party a toothless tiger?