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	<title>Comments on: Council Approves Street Tree Ordinance 5-0</title>
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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/05/04/council-approves-street-tree-ordinance-5-0/comment-page-2/#comment-12124</link>
		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how it is, Gus - as an old guy looking for work - I am busy with a variety of tasks.  Isn&#039;t it wonderful that technology has afforded us so many ways to remain active with so many interests and needs on a real-time basis  ??  

Unlike you -  I&#039;m personally guessing that an officer on the beat sees his/her vehicle as just about as important a piece of safety-related equipment as that radio  - so I personally dont agree with your assessment.  

Like you I want our men and women in uniform to have the best - but, I also know that at the end of the day - someones&#039; gotta write the check and it&#039;s getting tougher and tougher to do so. . . . 

And because times are so challenging - we&#039;ve GOT TO BE WILLING to scrutinize and examine every possibility.  There is no room in our economic future for any sacred cows.  Open the door - look inside - maybe there&#039;s no money to be saved - but if there is - if it&#039;s only  nickel - we better do it.  

In my assessment of Vinnie&#039;s thoughts - that&#039;s all he was saying. 

Boy oh boy - if Marty cant cut Vinnie some slack as a neophyte in politics - I&#039;m bettin&#039; he&#039;s gonna just rip poor ol&#039; Ishan to shreds . . . .  dontcha think ?

OR - 

Maybe not. . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how it is, Gus &#8211; as an old guy looking for work &#8211; I am busy with a variety of tasks.  Isn&#8217;t it wonderful that technology has afforded us so many ways to remain active with so many interests and needs on a real-time basis  ??  </p>
<p>Unlike you &#8211;  I&#8217;m personally guessing that an officer on the beat sees his/her vehicle as just about as important a piece of safety-related equipment as that radio  &#8211; so I personally dont agree with your assessment.  </p>
<p>Like you I want our men and women in uniform to have the best &#8211; but, I also know that at the end of the day &#8211; someones&#8217; gotta write the check and it&#8217;s getting tougher and tougher to do so. . . . </p>
<p>And because times are so challenging &#8211; we&#8217;ve GOT TO BE WILLING to scrutinize and examine every possibility.  There is no room in our economic future for any sacred cows.  Open the door &#8211; look inside &#8211; maybe there&#8217;s no money to be saved &#8211; but if there is &#8211; if it&#8217;s only  nickel &#8211; we better do it.  </p>
<p>In my assessment of Vinnie&#8217;s thoughts &#8211; that&#8217;s all he was saying. </p>
<p>Boy oh boy &#8211; if Marty cant cut Vinnie some slack as a neophyte in politics &#8211; I&#8217;m bettin&#8217; he&#8217;s gonna just rip poor ol&#8217; Ishan to shreds . . . .  dontcha think ?</p>
<p>OR &#8211; </p>
<p>Maybe not. . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggested a kindergartner could understand the argument.  As Gus states, there is some logic to the argument of accountability.  

You don&#039;t necessarily have to agree with something to see the logic in it.  This is a concept realized by most before 3rd grade.  Unfortunately for you, you will surely craft a response proving otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggested a kindergartner could understand the argument.  As Gus states, there is some logic to the argument of accountability.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t necessarily have to agree with something to see the logic in it.  This is a concept realized by most before 3rd grade.  Unfortunately for you, you will surely craft a response proving otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 22:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I didn&#039;t respond faster Box, but as an old retired guy, I am busy with life and look at the blog infrequently, but with interest.

As for one radio per officer, I can see logic to the argument, but I am not privy to the actual discussion between staff and council.  It seems to me that, since we send solo officers out on the streets with only the radio as their life line to help, that radio ought to be functional and reliable.  If the officer is responsible for his/her specific radio, he/she will be very likely to assure it functions property and is maintained.  If he/she just grabbed the next radio on the rack (as they did on NYPD Blue), there is much less of a certainty that it has been maintained, that the last user had dealt with any problem, etc.  

It is different when dealing with cars, trucks, or other tools needed by employees.  Not many of them involve employee safety or public safety.  

Funny, as an elected official, I was rarely supported by the safety unions.  In 11 elections, I was supported by fire once and police maybe twice, but I seem to be the major defender of them.  Probably it is because we ask much of them, which we pay for pretty dearly, but if we demand quality and accountability in our staff, they deserve to be trained, equipped, respected, and supported when performing the duties to which they are assigned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I didn&#8217;t respond faster Box, but as an old retired guy, I am busy with life and look at the blog infrequently, but with interest.</p>
<p>As for one radio per officer, I can see logic to the argument, but I am not privy to the actual discussion between staff and council.  It seems to me that, since we send solo officers out on the streets with only the radio as their life line to help, that radio ought to be functional and reliable.  If the officer is responsible for his/her specific radio, he/she will be very likely to assure it functions property and is maintained.  If he/she just grabbed the next radio on the rack (as they did on NYPD Blue), there is much less of a certainty that it has been maintained, that the last user had dealt with any problem, etc.  </p>
<p>It is different when dealing with cars, trucks, or other tools needed by employees.  Not many of them involve employee safety or public safety.  </p>
<p>Funny, as an elected official, I was rarely supported by the safety unions.  In 11 elections, I was supported by fire once and police maybe twice, but I seem to be the major defender of them.  Probably it is because we ask much of them, which we pay for pretty dearly, but if we demand quality and accountability in our staff, they deserve to be trained, equipped, respected, and supported when performing the duties to which they are assigned.</p>
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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 22:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - let&#039;s take it real slowly now - I am afraid that you&#039;re losing a grip here Marty - -   so, according to your most recent post -  NOW you disagree with &quot;..a concept realized by most before kindergarten.&quot;   

Marty, it&#039;s important to make up your mind - if you&#039;re going to USE an argument then you kinda need to agree with it . . .  unless you just go running around mouthing off nonesense that you neither ascribe to nor believe in - - HEY - wait a minute - Marty is a City Hall fan - - this makes PERFECT sense  - - But, jhey I&#039;m just kiddin&#039;.

The more likely explanation is that Marty finally figured out the problem with the &quot;improved accountability&quot; argument and really really doesn&#039;t want to go there any more - but OOPS - too late !


I do so hope and pray that others are watching closely at the (I hasten to use the words) &quot;thought processes&quot; of those who are so quick to defend City Haul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; let&#8217;s take it real slowly now &#8211; I am afraid that you&#8217;re losing a grip here Marty &#8211; -   so, according to your most recent post &#8211;  NOW you disagree with &#8220;..a concept realized by most before kindergarten.&#8221;   </p>
<p>Marty, it&#8217;s important to make up your mind &#8211; if you&#8217;re going to USE an argument then you kinda need to agree with it . . .  unless you just go running around mouthing off nonesense that you neither ascribe to nor believe in &#8211; - HEY &#8211; wait a minute &#8211; Marty is a City Hall fan &#8211; - this makes PERFECT sense  &#8211; - But, jhey I&#8217;m just kiddin&#8217;.</p>
<p>The more likely explanation is that Marty finally figured out the problem with the &#8220;improved accountability&#8221; argument and really really doesn&#8217;t want to go there any more &#8211; but OOPS &#8211; too late !</p>
<p>I do so hope and pray that others are watching closely at the (I hasten to use the words) &#8220;thought processes&#8221; of those who are so quick to defend City Haul.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/05/04/council-approves-street-tree-ordinance-5-0/comment-page-1/#comment-12116</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 21:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Box, I didn&#039;t say I agreed with the &quot;accountability&quot; argument.  I can care less if cops have their own radio or share one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Box, I didn&#8217;t say I agreed with the &#8220;accountability&#8221; argument.  I can care less if cops have their own radio or share one.</p>
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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/05/04/council-approves-street-tree-ordinance-5-0/comment-page-1/#comment-12115</link>
		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 20:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - I&#039;m with you Marty and Gus - and by your logic, we need to then buy all city employees a private (unshared) vehicle since they don&#039;t take particuarly good care of the current shared resources -  

R I G H T ????

(Keep swinging Marty, you&#039;ll get a hold of the ball sooner or later)

A concept only a kindergartener would get. . . . . indeed !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; I&#8217;m with you Marty and Gus &#8211; and by your logic, we need to then buy all city employees a private (unshared) vehicle since they don&#8217;t take particuarly good care of the current shared resources &#8211;  </p>
<p>R I G H T ????</p>
<p>(Keep swinging Marty, you&#8217;ll get a hold of the ball sooner or later)</p>
<p>A concept only a kindergartener would get. . . . . indeed !</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/05/04/council-approves-street-tree-ordinance-5-0/comment-page-1/#comment-12113</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 18:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bbox, Re &quot;accountability&quot;-

People treat possessions they have sole responsibility for better than they treat items they share with others.  This is a concept realized by most before kindergarten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bbox, Re &#8220;accountability&#8221;-</p>
<p>People treat possessions they have sole responsibility for better than they treat items they share with others.  This is a concept realized by most before kindergarten.</p>
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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/05/04/council-approves-street-tree-ordinance-5-0/comment-page-1/#comment-12112</link>
		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 17:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still wondering about the &quot;accountability&quot; rationalization - - - no takers on this topic for some strange reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still wondering about the &#8220;accountability&#8221; rationalization &#8211; - &#8211; no takers on this topic for some strange reason.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/05/04/council-approves-street-tree-ordinance-5-0/comment-page-1/#comment-12108</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, I think you meant &quot;drivel&quot;, but I suppose &quot;dribble&quot; could be made to fit.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, I think you meant &#8220;drivel&#8221;, but I suppose &#8220;dribble&#8221; could be made to fit.  <img src='http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anon101</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/05/04/council-approves-street-tree-ordinance-5-0/comment-page-1/#comment-12106</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 14:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinnie; please don&#039;t let the &quot;dribble&quot; above get to you, your sincerity and concern for the public interest is most appreciated.

I only wish that you had been elected last time so that we would have known about the secret plan that was being worked on to put the A&#039;s at NUMMI.  

BB: does the old saying &quot;like nailing jello to a tree&quot; remind you of anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinnie; please don&#8217;t let the &#8220;dribble&#8221; above get to you, your sincerity and concern for the public interest is most appreciated.</p>
<p>I only wish that you had been elected last time so that we would have known about the secret plan that was being worked on to put the A&#8217;s at NUMMI.  </p>
<p>BB: does the old saying &#8220;like nailing jello to a tree&#8221; remind you of anyone?</p>
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