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Pacific Commons update

By Matt Artz
Thursday, November 18th, 2010 at 12:26 pm in Uncategorized.

pacific commonsA reader directed me to this page, which contains the minutes of a recent Planning Commission meeting on Pacific Commons:

Here are the highlights:

  • The new movie theater/target development zone will be called “The Block at Pacific Commons.”
  • National, regional and local restaurant chains are interested in the development
  • Don’t expect restaurants already in Pac Commons to relocate to The Block
  • Target will remain at The Hub, but no guarantee about the one at NewPark
  • There’s a lease signed for a retailer at the former Linens N Things and Office Depot space. The leasing brochure shows it as a Toys R Us/Babies R Us.

To see the site plan, click here.

Also, Any Mountain opens Sunday at Pacific Commons.

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  • FremontGuy

    Great, another strip mall. I’m all for a theatre, but why not develop around the Hub, it would draw so much more of a downtown…. well, better in Pac Commons vs. no where.

  • Jen

    I’m not sure I get the urban planning rationale of moving everything desirable out to the edge of a town and letting the center die a slow and painful death.

  • VOR

    Planning and rationale, two key words our fair city has always had a problem with. The two basic tenets for Fremont development, require people to drive as much as possible and where alternative methods of transportation are limited. Whenever possible include the confluence of retail and industrial traffic. Two development goals that are commonly employed, isolate and divide.

  • Fazlur Khan

    ” Isolate and divide ” – obey the developers.

  • James

    Jen, I think there are two rasons for placing The Block where they are. First, Phases 1-4 are already built out. Second, The Block will be in the center of Pacific Commons once the office park are built, so office employees will be able to walk to the restaurants.

  • VOR

    In defense of the location of the theater complex, it makes sense for it to be in close proximity to I-880. We would complain if there was a large volume of traffic headed east on Mowry and Stevenson to the downtown area to a 16 screen complex. They’re already jammed in the early evening. A performing arts center downtown is a better venue and would attract dining establishments better suited to the location. Leave Pac Commons the shopping center and downtown the cultural arts center.

  • Gus Morrison

    RE # 1, Theaters in the Hub, There have been two instances, once starting with one screen and then modifying to two, later torn down and replaced with an 8 screen, which became the Naz, also gone to be replaced with a pet store.

    The economics of movie theaters is weird. Operators bid for the right to show a movie based on what size audience they can handle and expect. Big operators can push out the little guys. As a result, there are only a few big operators still in business. And,they go where they want to go, not where you wish they would come.

  • FremontCA

    “obey the developers” Fazulr, are you serious????!!!!!!! One day you are pro developer, then the next day you are anti-developer, and today you are pro developer again. What’s next??? Be a anti-developer again. Imagine him running for city council or mayor again and again.

    Can we trust you or annoyed by you with blah blah blah?

  • FremontCA

    “obey the developers” Fazulr, are you serious????!!!!!!! One day you are pro developer, then the next day you are anti-developer, and today you are pro developer again. What’s next??? Be a anti-developer again. Imagine him running for city council or mayor again and again.

    Can we trust you or annoyed by you saying blah blah blah?

  • tony irvington

    The only goal for a mall of completely non-local businesses such as Pacific Commons is to the benifit developer and the congolmerate of nationwide chain stores and restaurants “partnering” togethering if not already owned by the same parent company and to put a foot on the neck of “mom and pop” shops that are unique to Fremont or the Bay Area.

    and keep it there, pressing harder, until they give up, surrender, go away, die.

    If the place becomes a ghostown and “dies a slow and painful death”, it won’t hurt anyone at the top. It’s unlikely those who were in charge of this thing and brought it along won’t feel will feel any pain when it’s dead.

    On that day, you’ll be more likely to find champagne smiles and bonuses for a job well executed.

    If you think the goal of the mall is to create long-term job opportunities with great pay and benifits, or to bring an array of unique shops, restaurants and variety to a convienent location in Fremont you’re mistaken.

    There’s no goal and there’s no mall.
    There’s a mission and there’s a device.

    The mission is to eliminate competition.
    Pacific Commons, the device by which to do it.

    soon nothing will be unique

  • Robert

    We can agree that Fazlur Khan is consistently inconsistent.

  • Fazlur Khan

    The clarification is, the council obeys the developers, as they are their employers/agents.

    I am against the developers funding their employees/agents to occupy the city council to get the lots for one dollar, repeat one dollar ($1) and other concessions/favors.

    The developers should not mess with the elections of Fremont, if they want to do business in Fremont.

  • http://fcnisbacon.wordpress.com/ Marty

    I understood your original point, Fazlur. But this “Block” development looks interesting to me because it resembles a place in Fremont where I’d spend my shittes and giggles money. It can be our little Santana Row.

  • Robert

    I agree– Pacific Commons can be our Santana Row. I just spent money there yesterday which I could easily have done in Fremont.

  • LoneStranger

    I don’t get how Kohl’s and Costco and Lowe’s find this more desirable than a baseball park as a neighbor.