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Get to the Point Game III

Alright, Round 3. To make thing easier, below is the opening three paragraphs from a Tri-City Voice editorial from earlier this year. I’m offering the possibility of prizes for the first person to correctly tell me what the editorial is actually about. A hint: the subject matter is timely and it’s not about Octoberfest.

Here we go:

In the world of law and order, the magnitude and nature of a crime is often viewed through different prisms depending on the observer. A perpetrator’s biological age, socio-economic status and mental state are factors for legal maneuvers and courtrooms, but in most cases, there are clear winners and losers. If physical injury is involved, pain and suffering are measurements to determine the harm sustained. Mental distress may be a less tangible result, but no less injurious. Crimes against large groups of people can be classified as “crimes against humanity” and tried in national or international venues with highly publicized significant, even fatal results.

On the other end of the spectrum, crimes that are petty, thoughtless and downright stupid are often shrugged away as the acts of idiots who are not worth the time and effort of mainstream society. If caught, such “criminals” are considered a petty nuisance, unworthy of law enforcement efforts and costly counseling to try to reform such behavior. It is unfortunate that such individuals form patterns that persist, causing grief in communities that have enough problems without such juvenile actions. A kid with a can of spray paint, a sharp object or rock can do much damage to the property of others, but suffer little consequence since these actions are often done while cowering in darkness and, if caught, regarded as a mental Lilliputian. Law enforcement fiscal and manpower restraints work in favor of these denizens of depravity.

The problem for law enforcement when faced with “petty crime” is that often these actions are not really petty. Serious and injurious actions against the community may have far-reaching effects. As an example, when mental deficient individuals spray graffiti and damage property that serves the community with no other purpose than betterment of local conditions without personal gain, such criminals are committing a criminal act – a crime against their community. There is no excuse for such behavior; it simply degrades everyone and everything around them; a social injustice to the entire area.

Matt Artz

  • Marty

    Egging trick-or-treaters?

  • Jon Simon

    Red-light cameras?

  • Robert2

    Candelighters complaining about vandals.

  • charlie C

    The CalGuys pancreas after sucking down a bacon burger?

  • Matt Artz
  • Gorlash

    I’m unclear about the point of these contests… cannot anyone just google on any reasonably distinctive phrase from the article, and immediately get the entire article??

    Or are you guessing that, even with the entire article, the reader still won’t know what it is about??

  • TBONE

    I think the editor could have made his point in two sentences. What a waste of ink.

  • bbox231

    However long-winded he may be, Marshak – at least – reserves a measured dose of his efforts exposing the well-demonstrated ineptitudes and nonesense as exhibited by our Council.

    On the other hand, instead of focussing his talents on, what should be, one of the major underpinnings of journalistic responsibility, Artz is busy trading style points.

    WHat makes this most ironic is the fact that TCV (not to be confused with TCB) appears to be achieiving some modicum of success servicing a virutally identical market.

    Oh, and did I mention that TCV has doubled its circulation *and* relocated into some pretty nice digs in their recent history ?

    Keep focussing on the form and tell yourself that function doesnt matter Matt. Good job !

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #7
    Both TCV and TCB are incredibly important to all of us middle-aged, fat assed, blowhards.
    Many thanks to both Matt and Bill….

    I don’t know Bill personally I have a sneaking suspicion that he can take it and (although I have never seen him laugh) believe he might actually giggle a little…
    Keep ‘em coming Matt.

  • bbox231

    #8 – Well Dan-o there was ONE point we agree on. . . . that Marshak is laughing.

    And, from all outward appearances, he does so, all the way to the bank.

    I guess I just dont understand how a bright guy like you can become so completely confused between an expressed concern for journalistic credibility and some kind of implied need to protect Marshak’s reputation or ego or something.

    wow.

  • charlie C

    Well there you go again. Chasing the cash cows out of Fremont = ineptitude and nonsense. You must admit you FCNers have *really* got that one down! Do you really think Fremont is going to be better off if we elect those who oppose reasonable development? Really?

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #8 Okay….

    My error: Both TCV and TCB are incredibly important to *some* of us middle-aged, fat assed, blowhards.

    Let’s see, I want to make a FORTUNE – I know: I’ll start a small town paper. I am sure Marshak is going to be Goney’s neighbor in a matter of months.

    My 2c: In this day and age of no or greatly gutted regional journalism (especially in the East Bay), I really appreciate these resources.

  • bbox231

    Oh – goodness.

    THere we go again with the extremes. Why is it that the extremes are so frequently sought out as some kind of counter-argument in this venue ?

    No one said Marshak is making a fortune, Dan – except you.

    But, *the original point* was that TCB *is* realizing a positive economic result which is allowing them to extend their reach while others are downsizing and moaning and groaning the blues.

    I think it’s swell of you to be an active participant in the mutual admiration society commonly referred to as Fremont politics.

    I, on the other hand, feel out community suffers from a lack of involvement and participation by electorate.

    I feel that if there was more done to bring actions by our management into the broader public awareness, that perhaps more individuals would be motivated to do something about it (you know – like vote, for example).

    I feel that it is precisely the kind of pablum coverage that Argus provides that, at the very least, and, consciously our not, contributes to a lack of voter participation.

    To be certain there are many other considerations which fuel this lethargy. But, for me, any change one could hope for in this dynamic *has* to start with an informed and aware electorate. Media *should* play an important role in establishing that awareness.

  • charlie C

    Fremont just can’t afford to give these doofuses any responsibilities. Looks like Bill or Anu or even Steve will be our next Mayor. Now it’s tme to get serious about stopping those FCNers who are seeking to become Council members. … they have already screwed us and will do it again!

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #13
    “No one said Marshak is making a fortune, Dan – except you..”

    Let me quote #10 (or is this another BabbleBox?

    “Well Dan-o there was ONE point we agree on. . . . that Marshak is laughing. And, from all outward appearances, he does so, all the way to the bank.”

  • bbox231

    No one said MARSHAK IS MAKING A FORTUNE, Dan – except you.

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #16 -
    Okay, it must have been my mistake. I interpreted: “Well Dan-o there was ONE point we agree on. . . . that Marshak is laughing….And, from all outward appearances, he does so, *all the way to the bank*”
    … as meaning he was profiting handsomely from his work.
    What did you mean?

  • Marty

    Dan, Box must have meant “sperm bank”.

  • Robert2

    ..the possibility of prizes…?

  • Dan Ondrasek

    LOL – Must have

  • Jeff Schinkel

    As someone who happily donates a lot of my personal time to the construction of the Ghost House each year, I appreciate Mr. Marshak’s editorial. Rather than being glib and dismissive of the efforts of the Candle Lighters, he expresses a genuine concern for what the organization tries hard to do: Provide a low cost, fun event for the whole family, while raising dollars for other community organizations. All of us involved with Candle Lighters appreciate him taking the time addressing vandalism at the site.

    Vandalism is a constant problem for all in the Tri-Cities, but for volunteer organizations, it can be beyond frustrating. Damage that seems minor to some is in fact rather costly. Instead of spending time, energy and money on building the current year’s Ghost House, it seems too often we spend a lot of time covering up or undoing damage caused by vandals.

  • charlie C
  • Dan Ondrasek

    Charlie – thank you: this clip has become the team’s motto for the week…..

  • bbox231

    And we’ll add to it “the team’s” theme song -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7qKAW741I4

  • bbox231

    #17

    The economic benefit was first characterized in #8, when I said – “WHat makes this most ironic is the fact that TCV (not to be confused with TCB) appears to be achieiving some modicum of success servicing a virutally identical market. ”

    I later clarified that same point in #13 when I said – “..*the original point* was that TCB *is* realizing a positive economic result which is allowing them to extend their reach while others are downsizing and moaning and groaning the blues.”

    I added a degree of sarcasm (so popular in this venue – would think YOU would recognize same) to this *MAIN* point with the “..laughing all the way to the bank..” – which somehow, despite all of these other details – you’ve attempted to grind into a statement that the guy is making “..a FORTUNE..” – while simultaneously, ignoring the salient points. . . . it’s called “hijacking” and you and the rest of the F-mont Mutual Admiration Society – are quite adept at it. WHy is that ? Who does this benefit ?

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #24 Gotcha.
    Thanks….

    Nothing deep here on my end – just like readin’ the paper

  • Marty

    I don’t think Dan was hijacking. But I do believe Mr. Box is bullshitting.

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #26
    I think you and I are part of the mutual-admiration society which means we are going to need to start kicking each other’s asses again soon.

  • charlie C

    This *most likely* will be the result of Bacons 3rd attempt at stopping “reasonable development”.
    . !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTNyjYEAvoA

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #29 – sorry Charlie – I am turning on you here; but we need some spirited debate before they turn this thing off

    How many cities with major league teams DON’T have their own newspapers?
    Don’t you think Fremont should walk before it “Plays Ball?”

    Could be a new focus for you.

    By the way:
    Green Bay population: 104,057
    http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com

  • charlie C

    FACT…the cheese heads have 101,460 less people than Fremont. FACT…Green Bay is a major league city. FACT… Fremont could have been. FACT…People go to Green Bay and pump millions of dollars into the cities economy *because* they have a professional sports franchise. FACT…the Fremont Citizen Network have led us to the gates of purgatory. Remember that when it’s time to elect our next City Council representatives.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepyGm9Me6w

  • Dan Ondrasek

    FACT: Charlie has no local editorial section to bitch about Fremont issues anymore

  • West

    Charlie C…..
    I would have thought you would have tired of playing your one string banjo, by now.
    I also thought you would have tired of spewing out your sick hatred tirades, guess not. Get some help Charlie

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #32

    Thanks West: I mistakenly used a plural in my comment.
    Charlie has the one issue.

  • Sootless

    #33
    Chill out CalGuy…Because of you and your masters our is a troubled city filled with *hatred*, and Asian buffets. Maybe you and Vinnie should go plant some lemon trees!
    Come on Dan.O…sing with me now!
    1,2,3,…But fruit of the poor lemon is impossible to eat!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2JsaCdbF0s

  • Dan Ondrasek

    #35

    ….can’t sing. I am in mourning.

    Hey Sootless – do you think the Chronicle ed staff might get your cute Lemon Tree metaphor?

  • West

    Sootless or should I say Charlie, You are still playing that One String Banjo and yes your hatred is still coming through.
    Charlie, please stop your HATE messages! We are sick of them!!!!!!

  • worble

    HA HA HA Charlie tuna NO BALLPARK for FREMONT!! put the bong down the party is over.

  • Ashley Butler

    Regarding Jeff’s post #21 on the Candle Lighters: “Provide a low cost, fun event for the whole family, while raising dollars for other community organizations.” Those who choose to patronize the Candle Lighter’s Ghost House would do well to recall that among the “community organizations” that the Candle Lighters have chosen to fund are an anti-choice, “pro-life” group.

    http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/03/03/candle-lighters-and-abortion/

    Any vandalism of the site is deplorable, but if you support a woman’s right to choose, you should know what they do with your admission fee.

  • Marty

    ..that among the “community organizations” that the Candle Lighters have chosen to fund are an [anti-abortion], “pro-life” group [who provides a choice I disagree with].

    Corrected that for you, Ashley.

  • Rick

    so are we ever gonna see more news here than this thing rehashed over and over ?

  • Dan Ondrasek

    Sure Rick…meet the future:

    http://www.foxnews.com

    “Fair & Balanced”
    (Is that a “pod” by my bed?)

  • Rick

    um i meant, fremont, newark, union city news…..

  • Dan Ondrasek