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		<title>By: worble</title>
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		<dc:creator>worble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish that W-ass-er-man would have put this on the ballot and then maybe Charlie tuna and worblehigh would see that Fremont is not a baseball town. It would have never gotten the votes by the smart people of Fremont. The beer drinking and driving after the game is what Charlie tuna and Worblehigh like to teach there chidren. Americas sport My A##!! not anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that W-ass-er-man would have put this on the ballot and then maybe Charlie tuna and worblehigh would see that Fremont is not a baseball town. It would have never gotten the votes by the smart people of Fremont. The beer drinking and driving after the game is what Charlie tuna and Worblehigh like to teach there chidren. Americas sport My A##!! not anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Late to the game here, I haven&#039;t been able to do much except scan the thread.  Can you answer me this - is West &lt;i&gt;offering&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;threatening&lt;/i&gt; to inspect a sphincter up close?  The whole &quot;sit back and smile&quot; thing is pretty disturbing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the game here, I haven&#8217;t been able to do much except scan the thread.  Can you answer me this &#8211; is West <i>offering</i> or <i>threatening</i> to inspect a sphincter up close?  The whole &#8220;sit back and smile&#8221; thing is pretty disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW!

That’s a massive “U&quot;-turn in logic dontcha think, Charlie?

One minute those who opposed the stadium are “business killers” and the NEXT minute, it’s a question of WHICH businesses are “..in the best interest of Fremont.”  Not at all, the same argument.


Gosh if I didn’t know better, I might convince myself that you were in this debate for debates’ sake – 

MWHAHAHAHAHHA !!!! 

But, let’s (again) play along – 

What does it mean to be &quot;swiftboated&quot;, Charlie?    You like to use this phrase a lot. I’ve heard many on the political right use it - especially when they&#039;ve been trumped. 

For me, being “swiftboated” is just a fancy way of saying “We got beat by the other guys cuz we weren’t smart enough to promote our case.” PHere&#039;s a suggestion, Charlie - try  making an appeal that makes sense for someone with an IQ that is greater than ambient temperature.  Had you done so, you might have garnered more than a few dozen supporters and, more importantly, they might have been smart enough to do something about your cause.


Further, Catellus may be “obsolete” I’m not sure, because there are different kinds of “obsolete” and, I&#039;m never quite sure what context you us jargon in. What I know is that Catellus appears to be building like crazy and creating a few jobs as they do so. While, I am not a particular fan, they have a right to conduct they’re business and they’re certainly adding to the F-mont tax-revenue base as they do.  If you&#039;ve got a beef with these businesses, you should take your case to Sue and Bill and Anu who have been supporting and influencing this development for many years. 
 
The really entertaining NEW statement is the one which declares that I’ve been “officially shot down” – 
– - — to which I immediately question - by what “official” authority Charles? 


The court of public opinion? 


YOU???!!! 

Show me your badge, Charlie. Until then – I suggest you avoid making any reference to things “official”. 

See, sadly, while you may be the self-appointed and lone remaining voice of pro-stadium obfuscation, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever “official” about it.
 
The anecdotal table-pounding continues.
 
And, it’s the very same kind of anedotal table pounding that Bill, Anu and Sue spewed widely throughout their respective reelection campaigns and which appears to have been a great strategy.

But, another strategy and style has finally gained a bit of traction.  It&#039;s a thinking mans or womans style and one which does not rely on anecdotal and personalized nonesense.

To your obvious chagrin. 

The facts continue to be – 

- Major business interests in Fremont opposed the stadium.

- FCN/Bacon were aligned with these business interests in their opposition.

- Anu, Bill, and Susie either did not have the presence of mind to consider the VERY obvious conflicts created by their proposal(s) – - 

AND/OR – - 

- - they didnt care about these particular ESTABLISHED business interests and were willing to subordinate same to the wants and needs of Lew.

 
The conclusions we can draw are – 

Bacon is serious enough about protecting business interests in our community that he rallied a cause which was in defense of those same interests.

Anu, Bill and Susie, on the other hand,  attempted (and FAILED) to “swiftboat” not one, but two stadeeumm plans, both of which would have seriously compromised many, many established Fremont business interests.


Do the math.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!</p>
<p>That’s a massive “U&#8221;-turn in logic dontcha think, Charlie?</p>
<p>One minute those who opposed the stadium are “business killers” and the NEXT minute, it’s a question of WHICH businesses are “..in the best interest of Fremont.”  Not at all, the same argument.</p>
<p>Gosh if I didn’t know better, I might convince myself that you were in this debate for debates’ sake – </p>
<p>MWHAHAHAHAHHA !!!! </p>
<p>But, let’s (again) play along – </p>
<p>What does it mean to be &#8220;swiftboated&#8221;, Charlie?    You like to use this phrase a lot. I’ve heard many on the political right use it &#8211; especially when they&#8217;ve been trumped. </p>
<p>For me, being “swiftboated” is just a fancy way of saying “We got beat by the other guys cuz we weren’t smart enough to promote our case.” PHere&#8217;s a suggestion, Charlie &#8211; try  making an appeal that makes sense for someone with an IQ that is greater than ambient temperature.  Had you done so, you might have garnered more than a few dozen supporters and, more importantly, they might have been smart enough to do something about your cause.</p>
<p>Further, Catellus may be “obsolete” I’m not sure, because there are different kinds of “obsolete” and, I&#8217;m never quite sure what context you us jargon in. What I know is that Catellus appears to be building like crazy and creating a few jobs as they do so. While, I am not a particular fan, they have a right to conduct they’re business and they’re certainly adding to the F-mont tax-revenue base as they do.  If you&#8217;ve got a beef with these businesses, you should take your case to Sue and Bill and Anu who have been supporting and influencing this development for many years. </p>
<p>The really entertaining NEW statement is the one which declares that I’ve been “officially shot down” –<br />
– &#8211; — to which I immediately question &#8211; by what “official” authority Charles? </p>
<p>The court of public opinion? </p>
<p>YOU???!!! </p>
<p>Show me your badge, Charlie. Until then – I suggest you avoid making any reference to things “official”. </p>
<p>See, sadly, while you may be the self-appointed and lone remaining voice of pro-stadium obfuscation, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever “official” about it.</p>
<p>The anecdotal table-pounding continues.</p>
<p>And, it’s the very same kind of anedotal table pounding that Bill, Anu and Sue spewed widely throughout their respective reelection campaigns and which appears to have been a great strategy.</p>
<p>But, another strategy and style has finally gained a bit of traction.  It&#8217;s a thinking mans or womans style and one which does not rely on anecdotal and personalized nonesense.</p>
<p>To your obvious chagrin. </p>
<p>The facts continue to be – </p>
<p>- Major business interests in Fremont opposed the stadium.</p>
<p>- FCN/Bacon were aligned with these business interests in their opposition.</p>
<p>- Anu, Bill, and Susie either did not have the presence of mind to consider the VERY obvious conflicts created by their proposal(s) – &#8211; </p>
<p>AND/OR – &#8211; </p>
<p>- &#8211; they didnt care about these particular ESTABLISHED business interests and were willing to subordinate same to the wants and needs of Lew.</p>
<p>The conclusions we can draw are – </p>
<p>Bacon is serious enough about protecting business interests in our community that he rallied a cause which was in defense of those same interests.</p>
<p>Anu, Bill and Susie, on the other hand,  attempted (and FAILED) to “swiftboat” not one, but two stadeeumm plans, both of which would have seriously compromised many, many established Fremont business interests.</p>
<p>Do the math.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie C</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 07:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The concerns of these BUSINESS  interests were and still are not in the best interest of Fremont. This was going to be at least a 40 year cash cow that would have benefited the *majority* of Fremont.  Vinnie and  the demonize a developer gangs biggest fear was that it was going to get on the ballot. Lucky for you the stadium got swiftboated and that worked out just fine for the vocal minoriy that you are a part of. NUMMI is dead, CATELLUS interest are obsolete before the paint on their next tapioca palor is dry. Box, you have offically been shot down and it&#039;s is now time for any of the other proud naysayers to comment if they dare? Bacon KILLS bussiness!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concerns of these BUSINESS  interests were and still are not in the best interest of Fremont. This was going to be at least a 40 year cash cow that would have benefited the *majority* of Fremont.  Vinnie and  the demonize a developer gangs biggest fear was that it was going to get on the ballot. Lucky for you the stadium got swiftboated and that worked out just fine for the vocal minoriy that you are a part of. NUMMI is dead, CATELLUS interest are obsolete before the paint on their next tapioca palor is dry. Box, you have offically been shot down and it&#8217;s is now time for any of the other proud naysayers to comment if they dare? Bacon KILLS bussiness!</p>
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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was the BUSINESS interests in Fremont which ultimately killed this prospect. 

CATELLUS said NO!

NUMMI said NO!  


WHEN ARE YOU GONNA WAKE UP???????


Bacon and FCN were aligned with these business interests.   

Harrison and Anu and Charlie would have steam rolled over the concerns of these business interests.

Do the math.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the BUSINESS interests in Fremont which ultimately killed this prospect. </p>
<p>CATELLUS said NO!</p>
<p>NUMMI said NO!  </p>
<p>WHEN ARE YOU GONNA WAKE UP???????</p>
<p>Bacon and FCN were aligned with these business interests.   </p>
<p>Harrison and Anu and Charlie would have steam rolled over the concerns of these business interests.</p>
<p>Do the math.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie C</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 02:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#51 Don&#039;t be bitter Bruce .. As you business killers gaze out proudly at Fremonts empty fields of weeds where the proposed the ballpark village site would be (practically complete) today, try and visualize the hotels, restaurant, Santana Row scene there could have right here in Fremont. Do any of you proud naysayers care to comment?   Bacon KILLS bussiness!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51 Don&#8217;t be bitter Bruce .. As you business killers gaze out proudly at Fremonts empty fields of weeds where the proposed the ballpark village site would be (practically complete) today, try and visualize the hotels, restaurant, Santana Row scene there could have right here in Fremont. Do any of you proud naysayers care to comment?   Bacon KILLS bussiness!</p>
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		<title>By: west</title>
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		<dc:creator>west</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#49,
Charlie or Michael of Niles,
Have you ever heard of spell check, the proper spelling is bussiness.....
Charlie How many wrinkles are on your spincter muscle?
Give up?
Smile and I will count them]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#49,<br />
Charlie or Michael of Niles,<br />
Have you ever heard of spell check, the proper spelling is bussiness&#8230;..<br />
Charlie How many wrinkles are on your spincter muscle?<br />
Give up?<br />
Smile and I will count them</p>
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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you have neither – pound the table.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you have neither – pound the table.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie C</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 06:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#48 Just the facts Boxie, Dan-O, Worbs and Bruce...You and your efforts to intimidate me thus far have fallen way short. You  true believers are trying once again trying to swiftboat the good people of  Fremont and this time we’re really on to you. Your tactics are predictable, your long winded rebuttals are extremely boring and practically unreadable, It&#039;s about time  to face the facts. You were clearly wrong in your opposition to the the A’s coming to Fremont and now your guilt ridden responses and not winning anyone over. Your leader has once made a fool of himself and now appear to once again gone into hiding. &quot;Bacon mean bussiness &quot; has been revealed to be a big lie. Time to move on suckers...you lost!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#48 Just the facts Boxie, Dan-O, Worbs and Bruce&#8230;You and your efforts to intimidate me thus far have fallen way short. You  true believers are trying once again trying to swiftboat the good people of  Fremont and this time we’re really on to you. Your tactics are predictable, your long winded rebuttals are extremely boring and practically unreadable, It&#8217;s about time  to face the facts. You were clearly wrong in your opposition to the the A’s coming to Fremont and now your guilt ridden responses and not winning anyone over. Your leader has once made a fool of himself and now appear to once again gone into hiding. &#8220;Bacon mean bussiness &#8221; has been revealed to be a big lie. Time to move on suckers&#8230;you lost!</p>
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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#43 -  You&#039;re right - the FCN didn&#039;t have the backing of a majority - and neither did the pro-stadium faction.  

(Just where were all of these proponents anyway?????!!!)



&quot;When you have facts on your side - argue the facts.  When the law is on your side - argue the law.  
When you have neither - pound the table.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 &#8211;  You&#8217;re right &#8211; the FCN didn&#8217;t have the backing of a majority &#8211; and neither did the pro-stadium faction.  </p>
<p>(Just where were all of these proponents anyway?????!!!)</p>
<p>&#8220;When you have facts on your side &#8211; argue the facts.  When the law is on your side &#8211; argue the law.<br />
When you have neither &#8211; pound the table.&#8221;</p>
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