Comments on: Live Council Blog — Kimber Park

By: Charlie C

Charlie C — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:13:53 +0000

Vinnie Bacon is a phony. I take that back, what I ment to say is Vinnie Bacon is a *PHONY* and will do or say whatever it takes to get elected. Kathy Mac wears the pants and Vinnie wears the kilt! Please correct me if I’m wrong.

By: Marty

Marty — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:02:21 +0000

But, nobody is talking about condos and buffets on this property.

Hyperbole aside, Vinnie Bacon will swallow whatever it takes to get on the good side of moneyed donors in the Mission and Warm Springs districts. That is fo sho.

By: bbox231

bbox231 — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:16:36 +0000

#11 –

Because *someone* has to counter the lard-ass council members who are operating as errand boyz and gurlz (Hello sue chan)operating on behalf of the second-tier developers who are pounding out low-rent condo’s or buffets all around town.

By: Marty

Marty — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:52:13 +0000

I was being facetious. In reality, I think housing that is similar to the existing community should be accepted. Otherwise, Kimber residents are just asking for a place to bring their kids to trespass. BTW, a side note to Vinnie Bacon - There are a couple hundred square miles of open space east of the Kimber Development. Why not work with the EBRPD to open some of that space rather than your usual routine of playing errand boy for potential campaign donors in the Mission/WS?

By: IndependentGuy

IndependentGuy — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:24:02 +0000

Marty, like your guess of high density apartment style housing with a bus line, I’m just thinking through what might be possible or not. Nothing more than that.

By: Marty

Marty — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 19:19:56 +0000

#8 – I’m wondering why you think the margin on developing that property is any of your business?

By: IndependentGuy

IndependentGuy — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:53:59 +0000

#7 – my apologies for the error.

BTW, on my use of “ramble”, my expectation was that each council person would have done their homework, read through the plan, referenced the merit (or lack) of the Planning Dept staff and Planning Commission recommendation (or else why have them), then each present a well-formed opinion & decision.

Where I do agree with the mayor is that I also don’t think a win-win is likely. The landowner and I assume her investors want a return on the $6 million they invested. The community want “no development”. It may be he case that the club and its real estate could be profitable, but no numbers were presented for that profitable case. Nor at what price point of the real estate that would be possible. I doubt it could be profitable at $6 million. At $2 million, my WAG would be 500 members at $300/month in fees.

By: Gus Morrison

Gus Morrison — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 00:57:42 +0000

#3, Independence Guy, I wasn’t there, so I couldn’t ramble.

By: Marty

Marty — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:53:50 +0000

The only solution I see is high density apartment style housing on this lot with a bus line stopping hourly on Canyon Heights Dr. That way the concerns of Kimber Park residents have about adhering to the “general plan” are met, and Ms Chang can make a return on her investment.

Vinnie Bacon sure does pick em well. Fighting to keep a R2 zoned parcel vacant for some of the most wealthy NIMBY’s in the city.

By: Juicy8914

Juicy8914 — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:10:01 +0000

Why the author did not mention the current zoning for this parcel? The zoning is clearly stated its residential zoning (residential low 2-3.5)at City of Fremont’s website.

http://www.focusonfremont.com/search/index2.cfm?Type=AllBiz

Why the neighbors are asking land owner to let them use the property at someone else’s expenses? Does that make sense? Are we living in communist country? Why thing is not about what is right and what is wrong anymore? The points neighbors brought up is not based on facts!!! All they are saying is how much they love this property and trying to steal it!!!

Did they ever ask themselves what have they contributed to this property? Did they ever pick up trashes or empty bottle in the bushes? Did they trim the trees? Did they pay property tax on it? THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC PARK!!! The property tax is not out from taxpayer’s pocket!!!