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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BD, Marion and Jackson, thats a nice big three.  The price is not to big, they were gonna pay more for KG who is a very similar player, just a tad better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD, Marion and Jackson, thats a nice big three.  The price is not to big, they were gonna pay more for KG who is a very similar player, just a tad better.</p>
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		<title>By: manhattanproj</title>
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		<dc:creator>manhattanproj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this leads me to this blog question: &quot;Would you extend BD contract, given that guys like Arenas and Marion will be available next summer?&quot;

i personally dont want BD contract extended, at least not for max dollars. at a reasonable price, yes, extend his contract but that&#039;s highly unlikely. i would like the w&#039;s get arenas back in the bay. arenas is the more dominant player at this point in time. and he&#039;s more reliable health wise. he&#039;s not as much of a playmaker as BD is, but would you want to extend BD and have a situation like what hornets went through?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this leads me to this blog question: &#8220;Would you extend BD contract, given that guys like Arenas and Marion will be available next summer?&#8221;</p>
<p>i personally dont want BD contract extended, at least not for max dollars. at a reasonable price, yes, extend his contract but that&#8217;s highly unlikely. i would like the w&#8217;s get arenas back in the bay. arenas is the more dominant player at this point in time. and he&#8217;s more reliable health wise. he&#8217;s not as much of a playmaker as BD is, but would you want to extend BD and have a situation like what hornets went through?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the Warriors wont&#039;t give BD an extension. What does that mean, besides making good economic sense? Or, maybe, that&#039;s all that really matters, the money flexibility for 2008 and beyond.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Warriors wont&#8217;t give BD an extension. What does that mean, besides making good economic sense? Or, maybe, that&#8217;s all that really matters, the money flexibility for 2008 and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: beau</title>
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		<dc:creator>beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who said phoenix would trade with la?  kobe?  marion?  just b/c they want it to happen, doesn&#039;t mean kerr would do it.  in fact, why in the world would he want to improve the team around kobe?  and what would he get, odom?  so he&#039;s going to trade a 20/10 guy for another pass 1st guy, when they already have diaw and nash, who they can only count on him for 50 games, maybe.  makes no sense.

utah deal makes more sense for phoenix, as kirilenko brings different skill set, and marion won&#039;t be able to &quot;get off&quot; offensively in sloan&#039;s system as he would with w&#039;s and LAL.  he&#039;s a slop player, jamison with a better outside shop and face-the-basket game.  sloan likes a regimented offense with clear options.  marion would not flourish there, so kerr wouldn&#039;t run as much of a risk of the deal blowing up in his face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who said phoenix would trade with la?  kobe?  marion?  just b/c they want it to happen, doesn&#8217;t mean kerr would do it.  in fact, why in the world would he want to improve the team around kobe?  and what would he get, odom?  so he&#8217;s going to trade a 20/10 guy for another pass 1st guy, when they already have diaw and nash, who they can only count on him for 50 games, maybe.  makes no sense.</p>
<p>utah deal makes more sense for phoenix, as kirilenko brings different skill set, and marion won&#8217;t be able to &#8220;get off&#8221; offensively in sloan&#8217;s system as he would with w&#8217;s and LAL.  he&#8217;s a slop player, jamison with a better outside shop and face-the-basket game.  sloan likes a regimented offense with clear options.  marion would not flourish there, so kerr wouldn&#8217;t run as much of a risk of the deal blowing up in his face.</p>
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		<title>By: TPG</title>
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		<dc:creator>TPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a trade for Marion would cost the Warriors too much.  Just to match salaries, the W&#039;s would lose  Harrington, Pietrus, and at least 2 other players.  A combination of either Biedrins, Wright, O&#039;Bryant, Perovic, Belinelli, and Ellis would need to be included just to make this deal work.  O&#039;Bryant I can part with, but the rest - no way.  It&#039;s too much talent and depth to give away.

A better option would be to try and get Travis Outlaw from Portland.  He&#039;s got a huge upside; he&#039;s young and can get up the court.  With Greg Oden out, the W&#039;s can trade  O&#039;Bryant, Croshere, and Hudson and the deal will work when the trade restrictions pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a trade for Marion would cost the Warriors too much.  Just to match salaries, the W&#8217;s would lose  Harrington, Pietrus, and at least 2 other players.  A combination of either Biedrins, Wright, O&#8217;Bryant, Perovic, Belinelli, and Ellis would need to be included just to make this deal work.  O&#8217;Bryant I can part with, but the rest &#8211; no way.  It&#8217;s too much talent and depth to give away.</p>
<p>A better option would be to try and get Travis Outlaw from Portland.  He&#8217;s got a huge upside; he&#8217;s young and can get up the court.  With Greg Oden out, the W&#8217;s can trade  O&#8217;Bryant, Croshere, and Hudson and the deal will work when the trade restrictions pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The warriors did not trade J-Rich, just to get the youngster, the trade was part of a plan to get KG, since that fell through why not go for the cheaper option in Marion]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The warriors did not trade J-Rich, just to get the youngster, the trade was part of a plan to get KG, since that fell through why not go for the cheaper option in Marion</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they are willing to deal with the Lakers and/or Utah, why not GS.

Warrior fans think to small and have no confidence.  Laker fans know they have a chance to get him, GS fan don&#039;t, smells like an inferiority complex to me.

Give them Pietrus,POB and Harrington.  Thats better than  anything the lakers or Utah can offer.

Basketball is not about  division competition, it&#039;s the conference, and Phoenix has traded within the conference numerous times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they are willing to deal with the Lakers and/or Utah, why not GS.</p>
<p>Warrior fans think to small and have no confidence.  Laker fans know they have a chance to get him, GS fan don&#8217;t, smells like an inferiority complex to me.</p>
<p>Give them Pietrus,POB and Harrington.  Thats better than  anything the lakers or Utah can offer.</p>
<p>Basketball is not about  division competition, it&#8217;s the conference, and Phoenix has traded within the conference numerous times.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Derek,

Marion has been available for years. Every draft, Phoenix is looking to use him to move up. Warriors fans don&#039;t feel like he&#039;s available to the Warriors, which I tend to agree with. It would have to be a sweet deal to get Phoenix to help a Divison rival. I think they&#039;ll ask for Monta. I can imagine Nellie won&#039;t argue too much.

JustPuked,
I said at his best he&#039;s a 20 and 10 guy. And he&#039;s nowhere near as expensive as AK47. Marion is getting $16M this year. But you&#039;re going to have to give up at least $12M to get him, so that&#039;s $4M more than what you&#039;re already paying. Plus, Marion has just two years left, if he takes the last one. AK is locked up for more than $60M over four years. That&#039;s a much steeper commitment]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek,</p>
<p>Marion has been available for years. Every draft, Phoenix is looking to use him to move up. Warriors fans don&#8217;t feel like he&#8217;s available to the Warriors, which I tend to agree with. It would have to be a sweet deal to get Phoenix to help a Divison rival. I think they&#8217;ll ask for Monta. I can imagine Nellie won&#8217;t argue too much.</p>
<p>JustPuked,<br />
I said at his best he&#8217;s a 20 and 10 guy. And he&#8217;s nowhere near as expensive as AK47. Marion is getting $16M this year. But you&#8217;re going to have to give up at least $12M to get him, so that&#8217;s $4M more than what you&#8217;re already paying. Plus, Marion has just two years left, if he takes the last one. AK is locked up for more than $60M over four years. That&#8217;s a much steeper commitment</p>
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		<title>By: JustPuked</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustPuked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No way in Hell Kerr trades Marion to the Dubs unless he is able to squeeze some serious blood out of the Warriors.  He MIGHT go for Pietrus, Harrington, POB AND Wright.  I don’t see us giving up that much for Marion.  And let’s not go too goo goo gaa gaa.  He’s a 17 and 9 guy, not a 20 and 10 guy.  He’d be awesome in Nelliball, granted, but the price would be sky high.

It’s the same scenario as with AK-47.  Too damn expensive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way in Hell Kerr trades Marion to the Dubs unless he is able to squeeze some serious blood out of the Warriors.  He MIGHT go for Pietrus, Harrington, POB AND Wright.  I don’t see us giving up that much for Marion.  And let’s not go too goo goo gaa gaa.  He’s a 17 and 9 guy, not a 20 and 10 guy.  He’d be awesome in Nelliball, granted, but the price would be sky high.</p>
<p>It’s the same scenario as with AK-47.  Too damn expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: beau</title>
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		<dc:creator>beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kerr won&#039;t trade him to nellie.  why in god&#039;s name would he trade a perfect piece for nellie&#039;s system, to a team on the rise in his own division? unless he proves to be isiah thomas bad as a gm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kerr won&#8217;t trade him to nellie.  why in god&#8217;s name would he trade a perfect piece for nellie&#8217;s system, to a team on the rise in his own division? unless he proves to be isiah thomas bad as a gm.</p>
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