Monte is a super rare talent that you keep no matter what. Beidrens is solid but nowhere near the value of Monte Ellis. Monte is a budding superstar !

Monte is the one Warrior untouchable Warrior !!

It is widely recognized that Baron was snubbed a deserved bid, so that would considerably undercut your point about all stars. Quite a few (not necessarily warrior fans) also considered S. Jackson worthy as well.

The other events simply don’t hold the weight you think they do (3 pt, and dunk contest participation does not mean a player is good, or is expected to become so, and this is clear from the history of the event. As for rookie/soph: the warrior rookies don’t play (though both are considered very talented–and that’s not a mystery). Kelenna was considered by some for the game, but one suspect his drop in play time in the last month was the major factor in not being on the soph team. An objective measure this may be, but it is a measure with many qualifications.

In short, your reasoning is shoddy.

Ws are a team with no All Stars. In fact no All Star participation at ANY All Star events (rookies, soph, slam dunk, point guard skills, 3 point contest). No participants — which is one objective measure of current and immediate future talent.

Every other team with no All Star event participation, those teams are not seriously in the playoff hunt. Just the Warriors. And this after the League (Stern & Co) removed the Ws 2nd best player for the first 7 games.

So yeah, over-achieving is my choice.

Monta is not replaceable. He could average 25 points a game next year. His potential is staggering. He can do some things that nobody else can do, that nobody else has ever been able to do. I suspect that he will take another big step next year – gaining some muscle and becoming a good defensive player, developing a good three point shot, improving his handles even further, maybe becoming a drive and dish point guard. You don’t let a future superstar walk unless someone offers an absolutely ridiculous contract.

I think the only solution to the inconsistency is that Nellie has to find a way to get the younger guys some PT which should result in the added benefit of them developing faster too.

Also, at this point, Webber doesn’t even look like a short term solution for the team. He moves so slowly, you could put him in a uniform with the name “Thompson” or “Lepper” and I doubt anyone would notice. Even if his play does improve when he gets into better shape, we could be out of contention for a playoff spot.

I think Andris would get the nod over Monta

on offense, when they aren’t hot, they can still be good with passing, cutting, and 2nd chance pts. but they just don’t do these things and offense becomes stale and primarily 1-on-1 or jack up a 3. they just don’t put in the effort. but when they really get up for a game, they just become unstoppable, esp when they are hot (suns and celtics games are prime examples).

on defense, that’s where you really see the lack of intensity and effort. they can really create havoc on defense with their quickness. get steals, create turnovers, and turn them into fastbreak points. but they don’t always put in the effort like the hawks and bulls games.

they just dont always get up for their games. if they play teams like the way they play the lakers or the suns, i think they can be a very dangerous teams. not a contender certainly, but not a 8th seed either.

that’s the way this team is. they play when they want to and coast when they don’t. it’s kind of what you expect when your team is led by baron davis. he doesnt put in 48 min of effort and the rest just kind of follow. that’s why he’s not an all star. this team needs someone with a brandon roy or a kobe type of mentality. they play hard night in and night out, regardless of the competiton. they need a warrior spirit, to borrow that from bruce bochy.

The good news is, as the games get more and more important towards the end of the season – and in the playoffs – I’d expect them to bring that high-energy defensive mentality on a more regular basis.