Philly Wants Beans
By Marcus Thompson
Saturday, July 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pm in Andris Biedrins, Uncategorized.
According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, the 76ers have Andris Biedrins on their radar. That got me to thinking about who I would want from Philly.
Provided they aren’t parting with Andre Iguodala, there is one players who I might be willing to let Beans go for: Andre Miller.
It may match straight up, depending on how Biedrins’ contract is restructured. But Miller is perfect. He can play both guard positions, and is big enough to defend two guards – which means Monta can play shooting guard on offense and defend the point guard on defense. Miller is a proven baller, so he brings experience and an ability to dominate.
The Warriors would have to sign Miller to an extension, as this is his last year, but I’d look seriously into that. Miller is a great option to replace Baron. And with Biedrins’ cap hold gone, the Warriors will still have money to spend on a big man (someone like Marcus Camby) and Corey Maggette.
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July 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Does this sound familiar? Warriors trade a big man just reaching his prime who goes on to a great career, including many rings, with another team. Fortunately, I believe Mullin this time(not like J Rich) that he is keeping beans in a Warriors uniform.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Who would trade a “big” for a “small”?
We’d have Al Harrington at Center.
July 5th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
definitely dont agree with trading beans. he’s too young, too valuable to the team.
even with miller, w’s wont contend for a playoff spot.
keep beans and develop him alongside wright and randolph.
July 5th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Andre Miller would be nice, but Biedrins goes nowhere! We could get him for less, I bet the would love to unload Miller on us if it gives them more capspace to go after Josh Smith. They have Louis Williams waiting in the wings(who also needs to get paid).
And please stop calling him BEANS. Thats the worst nickname in the history of the universe.
July 5th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Not a good Idea period. why would you trade someone who is only 21 and reaching their stride for an experienced point guard on the decline? Makes little sense regardless of what he can do at this point. The warriors aren’t championship worthy at this point and miller does not bring to the table what Baron did so I say resoundly NO!
July 5th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
You’d let a young Beans go for Andre Miller who probably only has a few years left in the league? Is your last name Sabean? That type of short term thinking will kill a franchise in the long run.
July 5th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Knew I could get you guys going!!!
July 5th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Biedins and Monta are going nowhere. It’s all about who they get with the space not who they loose. Altough harrington is a good option to trade.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Ok, so it was a joke. And I wouldn’t dream of doing it, but…..
If you made that trade (with Philly throwing in an unprotected first rounder) we could go after Okafor. Certainly a different skill set, but there are very few teams who wouldn’t want him at the 5.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
NO! NONONONONO! NO, just NO Tim.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
I mean Marcus.
PS his nickname is Goose.
Philly, no Goose for you!
July 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Uh, no.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Marcus April Fool’s Day was over three months ago. :p You got me.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Trading away the only good center we have? Still hungover from last night?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Are you implying that Beans is nowhere near as good as us fans think he is? Are you and Nelson in on this inside info?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
i say we go after shaun livingston for help at the point or trade for jamal crawford and sign maggette we vouild trade for crawford and sign livingston and still sign maggette we would be in pretty good shape if we did that
July 6th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Trading Biedrins for Miller is an extremely lousy idea. Luckily you are not the GM.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Marcus, you are on crack.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I think we should go after maggette never trade BIEDRINS we will be ok
July 6th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Yeah, that idea is weak. Also, on a side note, this Elton Brand speculation is bogus.
The Warriors have no real intention to sign him. Just another was to distract Warrior fans like they did with the J-Rich trade and the KG rumors. They just are planting fake trade rumors so we don’t hold them accountable for this Baron travesty. The Warrior fans need to start showing up with signs and demanding more from Cohan.
The last real free agent that came to the Dubs was Fisher. Before that it was Claxton.
The owner is continuing to add to his solid reputation.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Um….Miller is a walk-it-up type player who lives in a grind-it-out halfcourt set. Last I checked, Nellie was still coaching this team. Remember the last time when a stupid personnel decision (Cuban with Nash) made him retire?
July 6th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Biedrins isn’t going anywhere. He’s restricted and they’d get a lot more than just Andre Miller for him if there’s a sign and trade. Miller’s good but Biedrins is a solid starter for the next 10 years!
I think the move to make is trading Harrington to the Knicks for Jamaal Crawford and David Lee. Sign Biedrins, Ellis and Azabuike then go after Dooling.
They get younger, and in my opinion better, while staying way under the cap.
PG: Dooling, Ellis, Watson, Crawford,
SG: Ellis, Crawford, Azabuike, Belinelli, Jackson
SF: Jackson, Azabuike, Randolph
PF: Lee, Wright, Hendrix, Randolph
C: Biedrins, Petrovic, Hendrix, Wright
That’s 13 guys under contract and a lot of flexibility.
July 6th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
califorange, idk about that man. i would love lee but im not a big fan of crawford, though neither of biedrins, who knows may be a good move. but man NEVER EVER EVER SAY ANDRE MILLER CAN REPLACE BOOM BOOM DIZZLE!!! NEVER AGAIN I WILL MISS BARON UNTIL HE REQUIRES AND I WILL GIVE HIM A STANDING OVATION WHEN THE CLIPS COME(buying that ticket specifically)
July 6th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
You just might be on to something there. It looks as though there’s alot of flexibility in that lineup up and down the roster. And with the way Nelson likes to Dick around with everything there could be a ton of mismatches or at leat the possibilities of them. However the numbers for Crawford, Lee vs Harrington do they match up?
July 6th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Although Miller is not a bad fit…a big HELL NO to the Biedrins trade!!
July 6th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
D’Antoni and Nelson are the same kind of coach, so Harrington for Crawford and Lee doesn’t make much sense. And though the contracts match up now, the W’s would have to spend more money in the near future to re-sign Lee.
Also, the last time I checked, the only teams to win an NBA championship either built their team through the draft, or landed an MVP player through free agency, or a combination of both:
88-89, 02-03, 04-05, 06-07 Spurs – Duncan (MVP), Ginobili, Parker (MVP)
05-06 Heat – O’Neal (FA), Wade (MVP)
99-00, 00-01, 01-02 Lakers – O’Neal (MVP), Bryant
90-91, 91-92, 92-93, 9-96, 96-97, 97-98 Bulls – Jordan (MVP), Pippen
93-94, 94-95 Rockets – Olajuwan (MVP)
The W’s need to do the following:
1. Stay the course by playing their young guys and building on their core.
2. Save their free agent money for 2010: Pierce, JRich, LeBron, Dirk, Tayshaun, Yao, Kobe, DWade, Redd, Amare, Parker, Bosh, Kirilenko, and Caron are all unrestricted free agents.
3. Find a point guard who can play Nellie ball i.e. Nash, Paul, or Harris.
4. Find a coach who can coach like Nellie i.e. D’Antoni
July 6th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
#21 i dont know about the rest of your list, but JRich isn’t a FA in 2010 according to hoopshype, http://hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm he’s 2011. I’d rather have Joe Johnson (FA 2010) over JR or Redd at the 2 spot. At least he plays defense.
July 6th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Trade Harrington for Andre Miller, that works great for both teams, then offer josh smith a monster contract that niether philly or atlanta can match. a startin five of:
C- Andris Biedrins
PF- Josh Smith
SF- Stephen Jackson
SG- Monta Ellis
PG- Andre Miller
A team that could average just as many points as last years squad, but play some stellar D at the same time, which the Boston Celtics just proved wins the title!
July 6th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Marcus,
Don’t ever write your opinion on the NBA ever again.
Frank
July 7th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Justin’s suggestion is great. Lets go for it. I’d rather trade Al H for AM rather than AB and then go for Josh Smith at PF.
Hope CM is working on such deal.
July 7th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Trade Harrington for Billups if anything….
July 14th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Harrington for Hinrich could happen, or maybe a lesser deal for Raymond Felton.
Biedrins (21 years old and 6’11″) for an aging point like Miller? No no no no, I can’t take it no more, I’m tired of waking up on the floor, no thank you please …… PLEASE, don’t do it.