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		<title>By: Le</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/07/08/whew-now-lets-play-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11093</link>
		<dc:creator>Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t be surprise if we trade Maggette to Detroit. Dumars was trying to sign him but didn&#039;t have cap room. They have Billups which we really really need. Like I said in a different post, I think Mully is working a 5-6 player blockbuster with Detroit involving Maggette, Harrington, Billups, Wallace (maybe Prince and more...).

Blah, glad to see you coming back from the &quot;dark side&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be surprise if we trade Maggette to Detroit. Dumars was trying to sign him but didn&#8217;t have cap room. They have Billups which we really really need. Like I said in a different post, I think Mully is working a 5-6 player blockbuster with Detroit involving Maggette, Harrington, Billups, Wallace (maybe Prince and more&#8230;).</p>
<p>Blah, glad to see you coming back from the &#8220;dark side&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: goingforthemoney.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>goingforthemoney.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve got to start your franchise with franchise changing players and build around them. you&#039;ve got to go for the throat. Do the W&#039;s have the balls to do this. I don&#039;t think so! We don&#039;t have a single player to build a franchise around and that includes Monta. He will always be better when he plays off a true star. I would much rather keep the current younger player and go fishing for stars. Of course this will not happen this year but Mullins needs to stay on the phones until he get someone to bite. Wright, Randolph, Hendrix, Azubuike,and Monta. Everybody else would be expendable either by trade, sign and trade, or letting them walk out the door. I know everyone thinks that Bedrins is a keeper but i beg to differ. I like his hustle and give it your all effort, but he is at best a change of pace backup center,and a good one at that, but not worth the kind of money he will be asking for, no matter what. They need to land a big fish and build around a couple of stars with good complimentary players. But lets get real we will be hamstrung if we keep paying guys top money who will never take us to the promise land. We will always be frustrated until the W&#039; get an established star or get lucky with the lottery at the right time with the right player]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got to start your franchise with franchise changing players and build around them. you&#8217;ve got to go for the throat. Do the W&#8217;s have the balls to do this. I don&#8217;t think so! We don&#8217;t have a single player to build a franchise around and that includes Monta. He will always be better when he plays off a true star. I would much rather keep the current younger player and go fishing for stars. Of course this will not happen this year but Mullins needs to stay on the phones until he get someone to bite. Wright, Randolph, Hendrix, Azubuike,and Monta. Everybody else would be expendable either by trade, sign and trade, or letting them walk out the door. I know everyone thinks that Bedrins is a keeper but i beg to differ. I like his hustle and give it your all effort, but he is at best a change of pace backup center,and a good one at that, but not worth the kind of money he will be asking for, no matter what. They need to land a big fish and build around a couple of stars with good complimentary players. But lets get real we will be hamstrung if we keep paying guys top money who will never take us to the promise land. We will always be frustrated until the W&#8217; get an established star or get lucky with the lottery at the right time with the right player</p>
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		<title>By: haastheman</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/07/08/whew-now-lets-play-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11133</link>
		<dc:creator>haastheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like a mini over haul here. Which, probably is necessary after you lose your best player. I don&#039;t know if Captain Jack and Harrington fit into this new team, and they probably have a little value on the market. How many superstars in the league are upset with their current situation? How ever many there are we should be going after them and offering their team whatever they want. Mello, T-Mac, and although not super stars, any of the pistons starting five. I would give up a package of jack, harrington, and EITHER, but not BOTH, Monta or Biedrens for Tmac or Mello. Outside of the fact that he doesn&#039;t play any defense, Captain jack would be perfect for the pistons. We could really use a player like Billups on this team too. But, as much as i trust Mullin I&#039;m really scratchin my head on this Turiaf thing. Well, here&#039;s for hopin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a mini over haul here. Which, probably is necessary after you lose your best player. I don&#8217;t know if Captain Jack and Harrington fit into this new team, and they probably have a little value on the market. How many superstars in the league are upset with their current situation? How ever many there are we should be going after them and offering their team whatever they want. Mello, T-Mac, and although not super stars, any of the pistons starting five. I would give up a package of jack, harrington, and EITHER, but not BOTH, Monta or Biedrens for Tmac or Mello. Outside of the fact that he doesn&#8217;t play any defense, Captain jack would be perfect for the pistons. We could really use a player like Billups on this team too. But, as much as i trust Mullin I&#8217;m really scratchin my head on this Turiaf thing. Well, here&#8217;s for hopin.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Livingston as well.  He&#039;s a very good back up at worst.  I think he could eventually take over the starting pg spot if his knees are back to 100%.

In Maggette, we also have another guy who can take it to the hoop late in games and get to line and actually hit free throws (ahem....Baron).  Assuming Monta shoots free throws (from his 76% last year), we&#039;ll have 3 guys in the starting line-up at 80%+ from the line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Livingston as well.  He&#8217;s a very good back up at worst.  I think he could eventually take over the starting pg spot if his knees are back to 100%.</p>
<p>In Maggette, we also have another guy who can take it to the hoop late in games and get to line and actually hit free throws (ahem&#8230;.Baron).  Assuming Monta shoots free throws (from his 76% last year), we&#8217;ll have 3 guys in the starting line-up at 80%+ from the line.</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EJ,

I&#039;ll try harder to stop being a &quot;Debbie Downer&quot;, Sorry.  It&#039;s just hard to be excited about this year when our team got worse (so far).  Actually got worse last year losing jRich.  don&#039;t start with the better record last year either, because we would have been in the playoffs with rich.  I hear Marcus saying wait 2 more years for a saviour, and that tells me, 4 years of regression assuming a miricle happens, and that just drives me crazy.

Now, Moving on to the new positive me......  I like the Turiaf pick up, if we can get him.  He&#039;d be a solid guy of the bench to help board and play defense.  We need it, and there&#039;s not much else out there. Plus he&#039;s at a reasonable price.  i&#039;ve warmed up to Maggette as it stacks our fire power and gives us flexability and trading options.  I hope the W&#039;s sign Shaun Livingston.  We could probably get him cheap and if we do run a PG with Ellis, assuming he&#039;s not ready yet, SL is 6&#039;7.  That gives us height.  He&#039;s still very young and has a lot of potential.  Maybe he&#039;ll do alot better on a real team.  I don&#039;t think he had to much to dish to on the clippers last year.  so in regards to cash, and height, he makes all the sense in the world.  So PLEASE do NOT trade or sign for Maurbury, Please.  Did you hear that NY is talking buy out of his contract?

Good post Manhat!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EJ,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try harder to stop being a &#8220;Debbie Downer&#8221;, Sorry.  It&#8217;s just hard to be excited about this year when our team got worse (so far).  Actually got worse last year losing jRich.  don&#8217;t start with the better record last year either, because we would have been in the playoffs with rich.  I hear Marcus saying wait 2 more years for a saviour, and that tells me, 4 years of regression assuming a miricle happens, and that just drives me crazy.</p>
<p>Now, Moving on to the new positive me&#8230;&#8230;  I like the Turiaf pick up, if we can get him.  He&#8217;d be a solid guy of the bench to help board and play defense.  We need it, and there&#8217;s not much else out there. Plus he&#8217;s at a reasonable price.  i&#8217;ve warmed up to Maggette as it stacks our fire power and gives us flexability and trading options.  I hope the W&#8217;s sign Shaun Livingston.  We could probably get him cheap and if we do run a PG with Ellis, assuming he&#8217;s not ready yet, SL is 6&#8217;7.  That gives us height.  He&#8217;s still very young and has a lot of potential.  Maybe he&#8217;ll do alot better on a real team.  I don&#8217;t think he had to much to dish to on the clippers last year.  so in regards to cash, and height, he makes all the sense in the world.  So PLEASE do NOT trade or sign for Maurbury, Please.  Did you hear that NY is talking buy out of his contract?</p>
<p>Good post Manhat!</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blah,

Why all the negativity, man?  The Warriors aren&#039;t done making moves.  Let&#039;s let them play some games before we pass judgement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah,</p>
<p>Why all the negativity, man?  The Warriors aren&#8217;t done making moves.  Let&#8217;s let them play some games before we pass judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: itsagreattimeout</title>
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		<dc:creator>itsagreattimeout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why the W&#039;s signed Turiaf:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hn5H1KZZjBU]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why the W&#8217;s signed Turiaf:</p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hn5H1KZZjBU" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hn5H1KZZjBU</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus, do you know anything about the NBA other than what you read elsewhere?  Why in the hell would Riley and Dumars want Harrington and why would they send an all-star WITH an expiring contract to the Warriors for Al Harrington and picks????  Are you REALLY that stupid?

Peter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus, do you know anything about the NBA other than what you read elsewhere?  Why in the hell would Riley and Dumars want Harrington and why would they send an all-star WITH an expiring contract to the Warriors for Al Harrington and picks????  Are you REALLY that stupid?</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: manhattanproj</title>
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		<dc:creator>manhattanproj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how would trading for ben gordan make the team better? what does he bring to the table that monta doesn&#039;t bring. neither is a PG, having both on the same team is a disaster. and w&#039;s still need to pay ben gordan as he&#039;s a FA.

i think maggette is going open up some eyes in nellie&#039;s system. he&#039;s athletic, strong, and he&#039;s going to be the low post scorer that w&#039;s need. he can take take his man off the dribble. he&#039;s going to make plays.

but i still don&#039;t understand the signing of turiaf? he&#039;s another high energy, undersized PF, with a limited low post game in the nba. he&#039;s not even a monster rebounder like a rodman. why even bother signing him to an offer sheet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how would trading for ben gordan make the team better? what does he bring to the table that monta doesn&#8217;t bring. neither is a PG, having both on the same team is a disaster. and w&#8217;s still need to pay ben gordan as he&#8217;s a FA.</p>
<p>i think maggette is going open up some eyes in nellie&#8217;s system. he&#8217;s athletic, strong, and he&#8217;s going to be the low post scorer that w&#8217;s need. he can take take his man off the dribble. he&#8217;s going to make plays.</p>
<p>but i still don&#8217;t understand the signing of turiaf? he&#8217;s another high energy, undersized PF, with a limited low post game in the nba. he&#8217;s not even a monster rebounder like a rodman. why even bother signing him to an offer sheet?</p>
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		<title>By: jmaaan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmaaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had an opportunity to use Baron&#039;s cap space to solve our 2 biggest needs:  a playmaker and a low post player.  Maggette doesn&#039;t make his teammates better, forces Monte to be the playmaker he isn&#039;t, doesn&#039;t defend, is a black hole, and is injury prone.  What he is is a scorer.  And $10mm for 22 points a game is a good deal in the NBA.  But I think a scorer and 2 was maybe #3 on our list of needs.  Or even #4 if you consider front court depth.

I&#039;m really worried our formula will not work next year.  If Monte can&#039;t transform into a playmaker, you&#039;ve basically got Jax as the only real playmaker.  And he&#039;s much better as a complimentary playmaker as his passing is excellent but handles only average at best.  That could grind this offense to a halt.  My desire would be for the W&#039;s to make a serious run at a playmaking 1.  That would give us the option of going big with Monte at 1, Maggette at 2, and Jax at 3 or small with the 1, Monte, and Maggette.  Also it makes Jax tradable if needed.

Finally, I&#039;d like to see us go after a skilled big like Krstic and a backup swing like Carney.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had an opportunity to use Baron&#8217;s cap space to solve our 2 biggest needs:  a playmaker and a low post player.  Maggette doesn&#8217;t make his teammates better, forces Monte to be the playmaker he isn&#8217;t, doesn&#8217;t defend, is a black hole, and is injury prone.  What he is is a scorer.  And $10mm for 22 points a game is a good deal in the NBA.  But I think a scorer and 2 was maybe #3 on our list of needs.  Or even #4 if you consider front court depth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really worried our formula will not work next year.  If Monte can&#8217;t transform into a playmaker, you&#8217;ve basically got Jax as the only real playmaker.  And he&#8217;s much better as a complimentary playmaker as his passing is excellent but handles only average at best.  That could grind this offense to a halt.  My desire would be for the W&#8217;s to make a serious run at a playmaking 1.  That would give us the option of going big with Monte at 1, Maggette at 2, and Jax at 3 or small with the 1, Monte, and Maggette.  Also it makes Jax tradable if needed.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;d like to see us go after a skilled big like Krstic and a backup swing like Carney.</p>
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