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		<title>By: garlicboy</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/07/09/no-signings-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-11139</link>
		<dc:creator>garlicboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Dubs want a back-up PG.  They should sign the best back-up PG available; Carlos Arroyo.  He&#039;s only 28.  His last contract was 4 years $16 million.  It would be great to sign him for 3 years $8 million. 3 for $8 sounds low, but Keyon Dooling was offered a 2 year contract for $3.8 million.

I really hope we sign Arroyo.  He&#039;s a proven veteran PG and is still young.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Dubs want a back-up PG.  They should sign the best back-up PG available; Carlos Arroyo.  He&#8217;s only 28.  His last contract was 4 years $16 million.  It would be great to sign him for 3 years $8 million. 3 for $8 sounds low, but Keyon Dooling was offered a 2 year contract for $3.8 million.</p>
<p>I really hope we sign Arroyo.  He&#8217;s a proven veteran PG and is still young.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BUT, they&#039;re still the Clippers.  Haha.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUT, they&#8217;re still the Clippers.  Haha.</p>
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		<title>By: Holy Toledo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holy Toledo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ewok.  I think you underestimate some of the newer Clippers players and Kaman.  I am not saying your overall points about BD and the Clips are wrong, just saying it&#039;s not as bad there as you make it.

Kaman is a coordinated scoring, rebounding and shotblocking legit big man.  Al Thornton is pretty good and we have to hope he doesn&#039;t get too much better.  I like their undersized SG Gordon to go with BD as their Monta.

Just saying.  Of course with Brand and maybe Maggette and BD they&#039;d be really really good, but they still have some talent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewok.  I think you underestimate some of the newer Clippers players and Kaman.  I am not saying your overall points about BD and the Clips are wrong, just saying it&#8217;s not as bad there as you make it.</p>
<p>Kaman is a coordinated scoring, rebounding and shotblocking legit big man.  Al Thornton is pretty good and we have to hope he doesn&#8217;t get too much better.  I like their undersized SG Gordon to go with BD as their Monta.</p>
<p>Just saying.  Of course with Brand and maybe Maggette and BD they&#8217;d be really really good, but they still have some talent.</p>
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		<title>By: garlicboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>garlicboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dubs and Anthony Randolph play again today.  It was only 1 game, but I think Anthony Randolph doesn&#039;t just have the chance to be an All-Star, but he will be an All-Star in 3 years.  It&#039;s 1 game, I sound premature, but I&#039;ve seen many summer league games in person, and I&#039;ve never seen Chris Bosh, Gerald Wallace, Gilbert Arenas or J-Rich(all former All Stars)display the skills he showcased during the summer league.  The guys skills and basketball IQ/instincts were far better than these guys, at the same age.  This guy is only 18!!!  I&#039;ve never seen a player like him before.  A 6&#039;10 guard who blocks shots and rebounds with tenacity.  I don&#039;t know if his jumper is as good as he showed on Friday, I think he was just hot, if it is automatic look out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dubs and Anthony Randolph play again today.  It was only 1 game, but I think Anthony Randolph doesn&#8217;t just have the chance to be an All-Star, but he will be an All-Star in 3 years.  It&#8217;s 1 game, I sound premature, but I&#8217;ve seen many summer league games in person, and I&#8217;ve never seen Chris Bosh, Gerald Wallace, Gilbert Arenas or J-Rich(all former All Stars)display the skills he showcased during the summer league.  The guys skills and basketball IQ/instincts were far better than these guys, at the same age.  This guy is only 18!!!  I&#8217;ve never seen a player like him before.  A 6&#8217;10 guard who blocks shots and rebounds with tenacity.  I don&#8217;t know if his jumper is as good as he showed on Friday, I think he was just hot, if it is automatic look out.</p>
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		<title>By: Le</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CalifOrange,

That&#039;s not a bad lineup. Ellis needs the occassional relief at PG duties so he can do what he does best, roam freely for open shots. Maybe Jax can handle the ball sometimes but he makes really poor decisions and turns the ball over when he forces the issue. I woulld like to see them sign Doolings (if not trade for Billups). I hear the Pistons are asking for Biedrens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CalifOrange,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a bad lineup. Ellis needs the occassional relief at PG duties so he can do what he does best, roam freely for open shots. Maybe Jax can handle the ball sometimes but he makes really poor decisions and turns the ball over when he forces the issue. I woulld like to see them sign Doolings (if not trade for Billups). I hear the Pistons are asking for Biedrens.</p>
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		<title>By: CalifOrange</title>
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		<dc:creator>CalifOrange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why&#039;s everyone so anxious to get rid of Al?  I think he&#039;s great!  He plays 3 positions, he scraps on defense (remember how he neutralized Yao?) and can hit the 3.

I say not just keep him but start him at the 4.  The Warriors still have enough cap space to get Keyon Dooling or someone else.  Maybe take a low cost chance on Shaun Livingston.

Monte Ellis will be as good a PG as Jordan Farmar or Rajon Rondo.  Who&#039;s the PG for Houston?

I think we&#039;ll be competitive with the guys we&#039;ve got:

1) Ellis
2) Jax
3) Correy
4) Al
5) Biedrins

and solid rotation guys like Azabuike, Wright, Turriaf and Watson.  If we get anything at all out of Bellinelli and Randolph we could certainly be a 45 - 50 win team again with a young core that&#039;ll get better in time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why&#8217;s everyone so anxious to get rid of Al?  I think he&#8217;s great!  He plays 3 positions, he scraps on defense (remember how he neutralized Yao?) and can hit the 3.</p>
<p>I say not just keep him but start him at the 4.  The Warriors still have enough cap space to get Keyon Dooling or someone else.  Maybe take a low cost chance on Shaun Livingston.</p>
<p>Monte Ellis will be as good a PG as Jordan Farmar or Rajon Rondo.  Who&#8217;s the PG for Houston?</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ll be competitive with the guys we&#8217;ve got:</p>
<p>1) Ellis<br />
2) Jax<br />
3) Correy<br />
4) Al<br />
5) Biedrins</p>
<p>and solid rotation guys like Azabuike, Wright, Turriaf and Watson.  If we get anything at all out of Bellinelli and Randolph we could certainly be a 45 &#8211; 50 win team again with a young core that&#8217;ll get better in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Warriors continue to upgrade their talent level which is key to one day becoming serious championship contenders. While Maggette and Turaif (assuming the Lakers don&#039;t match) are hardly top tier NBA All Star material, they are definite upgrades over &quot;Airhead France&quot; and Matt Barnes, and should be even better players in Don Nelson&#039;s wide open system. If Wright and Bellineli play as well as I think they will this season, I wouldn&#039;t be so quick to dismiss the Warriors for the 08-09 season. Remember, Dallas and Phoenix have seen their best days come and go, and Denver is rapidly approaching self-implode stage. Houston? Yeah, if they can win 20+ games in a row again they should be OK. LOL The Warriors missed the playoffs last season because Jackson missed the first 7 games of the season AND because Houston pulled off one of the biggest pro sports flukes of all time (win streak). The Warriors obviously took a hit at point guard, but overall this roster right now is more talented than last years. And while a great point guard is hard to replace, history shows they&#039;re not necessarily required to win an NBA title. Afterall, how many championships have Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, John Stockton and Gary Payton won? And who again were the starting point guards in the recently concluded Finals? Rondo and Fisher not exactly &quot;cream of the crop&quot; PGs, for different but obvious reasons. TEAMS win championships. The Warriors simply didn&#039;t have ENOUGH good players last year. and they still don&#039;t, but that continues to slowly change in a positive direction. A work-in-progress can still be a fun thing to watch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Warriors continue to upgrade their talent level which is key to one day becoming serious championship contenders. While Maggette and Turaif (assuming the Lakers don&#8217;t match) are hardly top tier NBA All Star material, they are definite upgrades over &#8220;Airhead France&#8221; and Matt Barnes, and should be even better players in Don Nelson&#8217;s wide open system. If Wright and Bellineli play as well as I think they will this season, I wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to dismiss the Warriors for the 08-09 season. Remember, Dallas and Phoenix have seen their best days come and go, and Denver is rapidly approaching self-implode stage. Houston? Yeah, if they can win 20+ games in a row again they should be OK. LOL The Warriors missed the playoffs last season because Jackson missed the first 7 games of the season AND because Houston pulled off one of the biggest pro sports flukes of all time (win streak). The Warriors obviously took a hit at point guard, but overall this roster right now is more talented than last years. And while a great point guard is hard to replace, history shows they&#8217;re not necessarily required to win an NBA title. Afterall, how many championships have Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, John Stockton and Gary Payton won? And who again were the starting point guards in the recently concluded Finals? Rondo and Fisher not exactly &#8220;cream of the crop&#8221; PGs, for different but obvious reasons. TEAMS win championships. The Warriors simply didn&#8217;t have ENOUGH good players last year. and they still don&#8217;t, but that continues to slowly change in a positive direction. A work-in-progress can still be a fun thing to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: dick v</title>
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		<dc:creator>dick v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The warriors should have extended Baron.  This is just another debacle for Mullin. Baron was the center piece for the team that was very  competitive.
The W&#039;s have taken abig step back.  They will be at best a .500 team this season with this roster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The warriors should have extended Baron.  This is just another debacle for Mullin. Baron was the center piece for the team that was very  competitive.<br />
The W&#8217;s have taken abig step back.  They will be at best a .500 team this season with this roster.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Maggette. He is a cross between a sf and pf. He likes to run and He is definitely an offensive threat. Playing for a structured style of coaching like Dunleavy wont bring out the best in him but on a running team like the Warriors, He can definitely flourish.

Anyway if 50 million is what we offered Corey Maggette, so then, I really feel that this is the amount of money we offered Baron which he rejected and termed as &quot;insulting.&quot;

Baron however, miscalculated, he created his own predicament. Without consulting Brand and Maggette, He rushed to the Clippers, &quot;Verbally&quot; to gain a leverage against the Warriors. He bluffed. The Warriors called it.

But Baron isn&#039;t that popular to Maggette and Brand afterall. They left even AFTER he made a statement of joining the Clippers.

Maggette ironically, to the Warriors. Livingston is even a possiblity.

His pride did him in. Terrible.

Baron, at his health condition and age, is back to rebuilding again and he is going to rebuild the team that is the most hardest to build, The Clippers. He will have to deal with the myth, the bad luck, A fan with a bad morale, its Laker clone image, etc.

He will need a voodoo witch to rebuild the Clippers.

And the name really sucks! Clippers!

By rejecting 17 million for one year before renegotiations, That&#039;s a lot of balls! but for what? For naught it seems.

Sure whatever the Warriors offered him for a long term contract is undeservedly small, but the Warriors have six other players to sign and renegotiate! and Mullin is in the pressure cooker to make more of the 48 wins we did.

Baron decided to follow where the money direction is. True enough he ended with money, but he is undeniably alone by his lonesome self.

Just about the best player they have there now is Cutino Mobley. And who&#039;s crazy about joining the Clippers?.

He lost Maggette and Brand. Livingston wont be there. Would he like playing for Dunleavy?

He is now stuck with Kaman, Mobley, and Thomas. And these guys can&#039;t wait for their contracts to expire to play somewhere else. In the history of NBA, Name a Clipper player who is still identified and loyal to the team?

Baron has the talent and demeanor deserving of a legacy but He decided to follow the money trail. So, that&#039;s how he is going to remembered in his career.

Sad. Truly Sad.

The lesson of the story, Championship teams are based not just on talent alone, but sacrifices by its members as well, which could also mean a cut on their bank accounts

So Baron, stop biting your nails about whose going to sign next, use some &quot;Clippers!&quot;

As for Maggette, He will definitely grow in this team. I think he will be a good fit. He has a good back up too in Kelena Azubique. So were solid in this position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Maggette. He is a cross between a sf and pf. He likes to run and He is definitely an offensive threat. Playing for a structured style of coaching like Dunleavy wont bring out the best in him but on a running team like the Warriors, He can definitely flourish.</p>
<p>Anyway if 50 million is what we offered Corey Maggette, so then, I really feel that this is the amount of money we offered Baron which he rejected and termed as &#8220;insulting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Baron however, miscalculated, he created his own predicament. Without consulting Brand and Maggette, He rushed to the Clippers, &#8220;Verbally&#8221; to gain a leverage against the Warriors. He bluffed. The Warriors called it.</p>
<p>But Baron isn&#8217;t that popular to Maggette and Brand afterall. They left even AFTER he made a statement of joining the Clippers.</p>
<p>Maggette ironically, to the Warriors. Livingston is even a possiblity.</p>
<p>His pride did him in. Terrible.</p>
<p>Baron, at his health condition and age, is back to rebuilding again and he is going to rebuild the team that is the most hardest to build, The Clippers. He will have to deal with the myth, the bad luck, A fan with a bad morale, its Laker clone image, etc.</p>
<p>He will need a voodoo witch to rebuild the Clippers.</p>
<p>And the name really sucks! Clippers!</p>
<p>By rejecting 17 million for one year before renegotiations, That&#8217;s a lot of balls! but for what? For naught it seems.</p>
<p>Sure whatever the Warriors offered him for a long term contract is undeservedly small, but the Warriors have six other players to sign and renegotiate! and Mullin is in the pressure cooker to make more of the 48 wins we did.</p>
<p>Baron decided to follow where the money direction is. True enough he ended with money, but he is undeniably alone by his lonesome self.</p>
<p>Just about the best player they have there now is Cutino Mobley. And who&#8217;s crazy about joining the Clippers?.</p>
<p>He lost Maggette and Brand. Livingston wont be there. Would he like playing for Dunleavy?</p>
<p>He is now stuck with Kaman, Mobley, and Thomas. And these guys can&#8217;t wait for their contracts to expire to play somewhere else. In the history of NBA, Name a Clipper player who is still identified and loyal to the team?</p>
<p>Baron has the talent and demeanor deserving of a legacy but He decided to follow the money trail. So, that&#8217;s how he is going to remembered in his career.</p>
<p>Sad. Truly Sad.</p>
<p>The lesson of the story, Championship teams are based not just on talent alone, but sacrifices by its members as well, which could also mean a cut on their bank accounts</p>
<p>So Baron, stop biting your nails about whose going to sign next, use some &#8220;Clippers!&#8221;</p>
<p>As for Maggette, He will definitely grow in this team. I think he will be a good fit. He has a good back up too in Kelena Azubique. So were solid in this position.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would certainly bring in Livingston for a workout and physical.  He&#039;d be the perfect addition if he can still play or if it looks like he&#039;ll be able to play after some more rehab.  What a backcourt that would be with him and Monta!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would certainly bring in Livingston for a workout and physical.  He&#8217;d be the perfect addition if he can still play or if it looks like he&#8217;ll be able to play after some more rehab.  What a backcourt that would be with him and Monta!</p>
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