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		<title>By: steve kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miss Barnes out Maggette in?

Thanks Nelly!

Barnes showsup in the playoffs, I am glad we
got rid of Marion which chokes in Playoffs
like Kobe does.

Now Matt is going to show the &quot;We BeLeave&quot; Warriors
why the Leave!  Come Playoff you&#039;ll see like Baron
and Jackson, Barnes is Money!

Nelly your judgement SUCKS! as much as Maggette&#039;s
defense SUCKS!

Good luck! see you in the Playoffs....Ops never mind
you won&#039;t be there!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Barnes out Maggette in?</p>
<p>Thanks Nelly!</p>
<p>Barnes showsup in the playoffs, I am glad we<br />
got rid of Marion which chokes in Playoffs<br />
like Kobe does.</p>
<p>Now Matt is going to show the &#8220;We BeLeave&#8221; Warriors<br />
why the Leave!  Come Playoff you&#8217;ll see like Baron<br />
and Jackson, Barnes is Money!</p>
<p>Nelly your judgement SUCKS! as much as Maggette&#8217;s<br />
defense SUCKS!</p>
<p>Good luck! see you in the Playoffs&#8230;.Ops never mind<br />
you won&#8217;t be there!</p>
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		<title>By: goingforthemoney.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>goingforthemoney.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The is a lot of good points that were made about Matt Barnes, for or against. The reality is that this roster has been overhauled with some key signings. Give Mullins some credit this time around. He was forced to rethink his strategy due to Baron opting out. I too will miss Barnes. It was unfortunate that his mom died, for it was definitely a big distraction. It would have been touch for anyone to play under those conditions. Don&#039;t feel sorry for Matt he will be making more than most of us for sure and he&#039;s in a perfect situation for his style of play. I do think the W&#039;s will be alright without him but I sure as heck would have kept him for a little as they would have had to pay him. Last year was a fluk in the opposite direction and all of ya&#039;ll better believe that he will make the suns a better team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The is a lot of good points that were made about Matt Barnes, for or against. The reality is that this roster has been overhauled with some key signings. Give Mullins some credit this time around. He was forced to rethink his strategy due to Baron opting out. I too will miss Barnes. It was unfortunate that his mom died, for it was definitely a big distraction. It would have been touch for anyone to play under those conditions. Don&#8217;t feel sorry for Matt he will be making more than most of us for sure and he&#8217;s in a perfect situation for his style of play. I do think the W&#8217;s will be alright without him but I sure as heck would have kept him for a little as they would have had to pay him. Last year was a fluk in the opposite direction and all of ya&#8217;ll better believe that he will make the suns a better team.</p>
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		<title>By: Dresden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dresden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked Matt too but you can understand why Nellie soured on him a bit.  Barnes was really unpredictable and often seemed to be trying to do some kind of Magic Johnson imitation when he was in the game.  Problem was, he&#039;s not Magic and so a lot of his errors/trunouver came from trying to be too clever and I think that really rubbed Nellie the wrong way.  I know it drove me crazy too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked Matt too but you can understand why Nellie soured on him a bit.  Barnes was really unpredictable and often seemed to be trying to do some kind of Magic Johnson imitation when he was in the game.  Problem was, he&#8217;s not Magic and so a lot of his errors/trunouver came from trying to be too clever and I think that really rubbed Nellie the wrong way.  I know it drove me crazy too.</p>
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		<title>By: longshorelikebench</title>
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		<dc:creator>longshorelikebench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barnes really didn&#039;t do well last year.  That may be an understatement.  I say all that as a huge fan of Barnes.  I thought that when he was playing at the peak of his abilities, scoring was the least of the contributions he made.  He pushed the ball.  He rebounded.  He made the extra pass.  Last year.. was just really bad.  I hope he does have a bounce back year.  And I&#039;d take a Matt Barnes Flagrant Foul any day over a team not having any sort of attitude on the court.  Now that Baron&#039;s gone, they really don&#039;t have anyone with swagger.  I hope some of the role players step up to be the enforcers.  Jack&#039;s got the swagger, but he can&#039;t get caught up in attitude and those sidegames because we all know the NBA refs won&#039;t give him a short leash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barnes really didn&#8217;t do well last year.  That may be an understatement.  I say all that as a huge fan of Barnes.  I thought that when he was playing at the peak of his abilities, scoring was the least of the contributions he made.  He pushed the ball.  He rebounded.  He made the extra pass.  Last year.. was just really bad.  I hope he does have a bounce back year.  And I&#8217;d take a Matt Barnes Flagrant Foul any day over a team not having any sort of attitude on the court.  Now that Baron&#8217;s gone, they really don&#8217;t have anyone with swagger.  I hope some of the role players step up to be the enforcers.  Jack&#8217;s got the swagger, but he can&#8217;t get caught up in attitude and those sidegames because we all know the NBA refs won&#8217;t give him a short leash.</p>
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		<title>By: garlicboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>garlicboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus Williams, we gave up too much for him.  Other than that it&#039;s a nice pick up.

It&#039;s going to be interesting to see who will be the best PG out of Lowry, Crittenton and Williams, because we probably could&#039;ve had Crittenton or Lowry as well for a future 1st round pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus Williams, we gave up too much for him.  Other than that it&#8217;s a nice pick up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be interesting to see who will be the best PG out of Lowry, Crittenton and Williams, because we probably could&#8217;ve had Crittenton or Lowry as well for a future 1st round pick.</p>
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		<title>By: garlicboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>garlicboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jack and Marcus,
You should thank Nellie for giving Barnes a shot and giving him PT.  The guy would have been out of the league if it wasn&#039;t for Nellie and Mullin giving him a shot and Nellie playing him.

Miss Barnes, but we signed Maggette, will resign Buike, still have Jackson and Randolph will play sooner rather than later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack and Marcus,<br />
You should thank Nellie for giving Barnes a shot and giving him PT.  The guy would have been out of the league if it wasn&#8217;t for Nellie and Mullin giving him a shot and Nellie playing him.</p>
<p>Miss Barnes, but we signed Maggette, will resign Buike, still have Jackson and Randolph will play sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Rather Be Lit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rather Be Lit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus Williams anybody?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus Williams anybody?</p>
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		<title>By: Petaluman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petaluman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the side-effects of Baron&#039;s opt out was dropping below the cap.  This makes the actual order we sign players in critical.  Signing Barnes now would reduce the money we are allowed to spend on FAs.  Once we&#039;re back over the cap, we can then sign minimum contracts using the MPSE.

I think the Warriors would have at least considered signing him once they were over the cap, but it would probably depend on the rest of our roster.  Remember, we drafted 2 forwards this year.

For Matt&#039;s sake, though, I wish the Suns had given him more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the side-effects of Baron&#8217;s opt out was dropping below the cap.  This makes the actual order we sign players in critical.  Signing Barnes now would reduce the money we are allowed to spend on FAs.  Once we&#8217;re back over the cap, we can then sign minimum contracts using the MPSE.</p>
<p>I think the Warriors would have at least considered signing him once they were over the cap, but it would probably depend on the rest of our roster.  Remember, we drafted 2 forwards this year.</p>
<p>For Matt&#8217;s sake, though, I wish the Suns had given him more.</p>
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		<title>By: Le</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jack,

You are out of your mind saying Nellie is not a good coach. Besides 2nd most wins EVER, ask yourself when was the last time the Warriors actually had a winning season or made the playoffs without Nellie? I will never get back those 10 seconds it took me to read your comment.
As for Barnes, great guy, great heart, rough year for him, but I couldn&#039;t stand watching him play. He forces too many shots, misses too many layups. It seems like he is not content with being a role player when he that is exactly what he is.
I would like to see the Warriors give Shawn Livingston a shot. It&#039;s not much of a risk because he comes real cheap. The upside can be very rewarding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p>
<p>You are out of your mind saying Nellie is not a good coach. Besides 2nd most wins EVER, ask yourself when was the last time the Warriors actually had a winning season or made the playoffs without Nellie? I will never get back those 10 seconds it took me to read your comment.<br />
As for Barnes, great guy, great heart, rough year for him, but I couldn&#8217;t stand watching him play. He forces too many shots, misses too many layups. It seems like he is not content with being a role player when he that is exactly what he is.<br />
I would like to see the Warriors give Shawn Livingston a shot. It&#8217;s not much of a risk because he comes real cheap. The upside can be very rewarding.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haastheman and Road Orange,

Thank God I ain&#039;t employed by y&#039;all, you disloyal, kick-&#039;em-while-they-down-GMs. :o) I acknowledge Barnes had a down year. No question. But I know for a fact Nellie put Barnes through the ringer last year and the year before. I have had people in the locker room tell me that Nellie picks on Barnes inexplicably.
That&#039;s neither here nor there. You guys are crazy if you think Marco and Belinelli are ready to give big minutes on a winning team in the West. Maybe Randolph. But don&#039;t get too hype off summer league.
The Warriors need a veteran presence on the bench. They need somebody to challenge Randolph and Belinelli for minutes. I don&#039;t understand how you are OK with paying Croshere the minimum, but not Barnes. Are you forgetting 06-07? Just a year ago this time, you all were loving him. The dude mama dies, he has a bad season, and you ready to GIVE the keys to the youngster.

Plus look at this way: who is Randolph competing with for minutes? Right now, nobody. Think it&#039;s good for a rookie to get guaranteed minutes? Don&#039;t think he&#039;s better off
competing with someone like Barnes for minutes? Remember, we&#039;re talking about the minimum here. Is that worth it to push Randolph? I say yes. At this point, he&#039;ll just have to beat out Adrian Griffin for minutes, or which ever fill-in the Warriors pick up.
Ever think about this: why does Phoenix want him and the Warriors don&#039;t? Aren&#039;t they the better team? Don&#039;t the teams play similar styles?  How many times do Warrior discards end up key players elsewhere. I can see if he got $3M or even $2. He didn&#039;t. He got the
MINIMUM. You are going to have to give that to somebody just to fill out the roster. No way you can convince me Barnes isn&#039;t worth keeping at that price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haastheman and Road Orange,</p>
<p>Thank God I ain&#8217;t employed by y&#8217;all, you disloyal, kick-&#8217;em-while-they-down-GMs. <img src='http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> ) I acknowledge Barnes had a down year. No question. But I know for a fact Nellie put Barnes through the ringer last year and the year before. I have had people in the locker room tell me that Nellie picks on Barnes inexplicably.<br />
That&#8217;s neither here nor there. You guys are crazy if you think Marco and Belinelli are ready to give big minutes on a winning team in the West. Maybe Randolph. But don&#8217;t get too hype off summer league.<br />
The Warriors need a veteran presence on the bench. They need somebody to challenge Randolph and Belinelli for minutes. I don&#8217;t understand how you are OK with paying Croshere the minimum, but not Barnes. Are you forgetting 06-07? Just a year ago this time, you all were loving him. The dude mama dies, he has a bad season, and you ready to GIVE the keys to the youngster.</p>
<p>Plus look at this way: who is Randolph competing with for minutes? Right now, nobody. Think it&#8217;s good for a rookie to get guaranteed minutes? Don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s better off<br />
competing with someone like Barnes for minutes? Remember, we&#8217;re talking about the minimum here. Is that worth it to push Randolph? I say yes. At this point, he&#8217;ll just have to beat out Adrian Griffin for minutes, or which ever fill-in the Warriors pick up.<br />
Ever think about this: why does Phoenix want him and the Warriors don&#8217;t? Aren&#8217;t they the better team? Don&#8217;t the teams play similar styles?  How many times do Warrior discards end up key players elsewhere. I can see if he got $3M or even $2. He didn&#8217;t. He got the<br />
MINIMUM. You are going to have to give that to somebody just to fill out the roster. No way you can convince me Barnes isn&#8217;t worth keeping at that price.</p>
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