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		<title>By: We_Are_The_Littles</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/08/27/picking-up-another-pg/comment-page-1/#comment-11752</link>
		<dc:creator>We_Are_The_Littles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting a slow guard like Heinrich will only get you so far.  Then you guys will be complaining of how much of a defensive liability he is and you want a stronger, faster point.

I say keep the young players we have.  Let CJ and Marco develope.  Let&#039;s see what Williams is all about.  I would only trade a group of our young players if it was for a top-tier point, a la Deron Williams, Nash, Parker, CP3, and Baron.  Ooops!  Did I say Baron?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting a slow guard like Heinrich will only get you so far.  Then you guys will be complaining of how much of a defensive liability he is and you want a stronger, faster point.</p>
<p>I say keep the young players we have.  Let CJ and Marco develope.  Let&#8217;s see what Williams is all about.  I would only trade a group of our young players if it was for a top-tier point, a la Deron Williams, Nash, Parker, CP3, and Baron.  Ooops!  Did I say Baron?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see Livingston being ready before Monta and with the crowded roster, I don&#039;t know where he would fit.

Marco did pretty well passing in summer league and Kelenna also needs minutes.

I&#039;m OK with Marcus and CJ unless Livinston has made enough progress to play right away.

This will be a real test, but I think they can survive it and be stronger from getting more players more minutes.

Or look at a trading several players for a solid, experienced point guard like Hinrich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Livingston being ready before Monta and with the crowded roster, I don&#8217;t know where he would fit.</p>
<p>Marco did pretty well passing in summer league and Kelenna also needs minutes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m OK with Marcus and CJ unless Livinston has made enough progress to play right away.</p>
<p>This will be a real test, but I think they can survive it and be stronger from getting more players more minutes.</p>
<p>Or look at a trading several players for a solid, experienced point guard like Hinrich.</p>
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		<title>By: SportsBrief - August 29 at SportsHubLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SportsBrief - August 29 at SportsHubLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] after learning that Monta Ellis tore ligaments in his ankle on Wednesday. Their first candidate: former Clipper Shaun Livingston, who worked out for the team in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] after learning that Monta Ellis tore ligaments in his ankle on Wednesday. Their first candidate: former Clipper Shaun Livingston, who worked out for the team in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robo</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/08/27/picking-up-another-pg/comment-page-1/#comment-11750</link>
		<dc:creator>Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For now, the W’s just need a body until Monta comes back and I think they should be looking at Penny Hardaway instead of Shaun Livingston.  Give plenty of minutes to Marcus and C.J.; and the rest of the W’s all need to step up, but Penny’s size and leadership could make the difference in a couple of close games through December.  Shaun Livingston just won’t be able to make an impact in the short term.  And if the Clippers; who know Livingston the best, aren’t willing to take a chance on him, why should the W’s?

With the additions of Turiaf, Hendrix, and Randolph, Kosta Perovic may be the odd man out.  If so, I’d like to see Mully trade Kosta for either Javaris Crittenton or Kyle Lowry, straight up.

Finally, Patrick Mills would look good in a W’s uniform, but I’d rather see that kid from Spain, Ricky Rubio.  He was pretty impressive against the Redeem Team, 6’4”, 180 lbs., a brilliant passer, and he’s only 18 years old.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For now, the W’s just need a body until Monta comes back and I think they should be looking at Penny Hardaway instead of Shaun Livingston.  Give plenty of minutes to Marcus and C.J.; and the rest of the W’s all need to step up, but Penny’s size and leadership could make the difference in a couple of close games through December.  Shaun Livingston just won’t be able to make an impact in the short term.  And if the Clippers; who know Livingston the best, aren’t willing to take a chance on him, why should the W’s?</p>
<p>With the additions of Turiaf, Hendrix, and Randolph, Kosta Perovic may be the odd man out.  If so, I’d like to see Mully trade Kosta for either Javaris Crittenton or Kyle Lowry, straight up.</p>
<p>Finally, Patrick Mills would look good in a W’s uniform, but I’d rather see that kid from Spain, Ricky Rubio.  He was pretty impressive against the Redeem Team, 6’4”, 180 lbs., a brilliant passer, and he’s only 18 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbabytap</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbabytap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gkingus...that point guard Mills is playing college ball at Saint Marys so he&#039;s out of the picture...i agree with you though he&#039;s gonna be pretty good player..team usa guards couldnt stay in front of him....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gkingus&#8230;that point guard Mills is playing college ball at Saint Marys so he&#8217;s out of the picture&#8230;i agree with you though he&#8217;s gonna be pretty good player..team usa guards couldnt stay in front of him&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebuilding?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebuilding?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Monta injury kills this team, but only for half a year...

CJW is a player, Williams is a player....  I think that Livingston could be a player

Warriors are going to struggle in the first half of the season, but they could be the &quot;best young&quot; team in the league in the second half.

Go get Livingston keep CJW and role with that team.   First ten games are role of the dice for every team every season.  Hold on for ten to twenty games and then get a little shot in the arm with Livingston and a BIG one with Monta!

Let&#039;s role it out and pray that there is no more miss fortune in Warrior land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Monta injury kills this team, but only for half a year&#8230;</p>
<p>CJW is a player, Williams is a player&#8230;.  I think that Livingston could be a player</p>
<p>Warriors are going to struggle in the first half of the season, but they could be the &#8220;best young&#8221; team in the league in the second half.</p>
<p>Go get Livingston keep CJW and role with that team.   First ten games are role of the dice for every team every season.  Hold on for ten to twenty games and then get a little shot in the arm with Livingston and a BIG one with Monta!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s role it out and pray that there is no more miss fortune in Warrior land.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Livingston is worth the risk.  He could end up being the perfect compliment to Monta.  Or he could end up being another Chris Webber (last years version).
Either way it&#039;s a high reward low risk situation that the Warriors should capitalize on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livingston is worth the risk.  He could end up being the perfect compliment to Monta.  Or he could end up being another Chris Webber (last years version).<br />
Either way it&#8217;s a high reward low risk situation that the Warriors should capitalize on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the bright side,

If we managed to acquire Livingston and he jells with the rest of the team, and win a decent number of games prior to Monta&#039;s comeback, then it would be ridiculous to give up Livingston especially if he makes an impact.

So if we keep him and Monta is back, then we got a stronger team as a result and we don&#039;t have to worry and regret about the Baron Davis&#039; years anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the bright side,</p>
<p>If we managed to acquire Livingston and he jells with the rest of the team, and win a decent number of games prior to Monta&#8217;s comeback, then it would be ridiculous to give up Livingston especially if he makes an impact.</p>
<p>So if we keep him and Monta is back, then we got a stronger team as a result and we don&#8217;t have to worry and regret about the Baron Davis&#8217; years anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t mention anything about Livingston....but I&#039;ve always liked his game.  I don&#039;t think by any means he is close to Magic Johnson, he can&#039;t even hold his jock strap, but either could Steve Nash or Jason Kidd, there&#039;s only 1 Magic.

It would be the right move and a good move, but not a difference maker.  I don&#039;t think signing Livingston would make 1 bit of difference.

He is from Chicago, thereby giving the bulls a chance and training with Jordan&#039;s old trainer, but still, he is a talented young player, hopes were high when he came in the league with the &#039;Clips&#039;, but again, I know this game too well and Livingston&#039;s performances would not even contribute to adding 5 wins to our win total in 08-09.

I don&#039;t care either way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mention anything about Livingston&#8230;.but I&#8217;ve always liked his game.  I don&#8217;t think by any means he is close to Magic Johnson, he can&#8217;t even hold his jock strap, but either could Steve Nash or Jason Kidd, there&#8217;s only 1 Magic.</p>
<p>It would be the right move and a good move, but not a difference maker.  I don&#8217;t think signing Livingston would make 1 bit of difference.</p>
<p>He is from Chicago, thereby giving the bulls a chance and training with Jordan&#8217;s old trainer, but still, he is a talented young player, hopes were high when he came in the league with the &#8216;Clips&#8217;, but again, I know this game too well and Livingston&#8217;s performances would not even contribute to adding 5 wins to our win total in 08-09.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care either way.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great point Ewok regarding Monta&#039;s point production as the biggest thing we will miss about this whole situation.

Monta is a great young player and I love his game, he is among the top 5 young best backcourt players in the league along with:  Chris Paul, Derron Williams,Brandon Roye, and Devin Harris, hands down, the best young back court players in the league.

We have to remember we are trying to convert a 22 year old kid from Mississippi into a Point Guard in a 3-4 month period.  It will take much longer than that for Monta to become accustomed to the position, he may never develop fully into a classic Point Guard, which is what I think.  Remember his assist to turnover ratio was terrible last year.  Fact is, Monta turns the ball over and didn&#039;t look to pass in most 2 on 1 fast break situations last year.

Playing through the season will add to his growth at the position.  There will be wins, losses, poor decisions with the ball, turnovers, all of these hopefully will be part of the successful growth of Monta at this position.  But be ready to see specific losses because of Monta turnovers or poor decisions with ball.  Again, he&#039;s a great young player, butI know basketball too well.

But Ewok said it the best, and this post is probably more applicable to the &#039;Monta Lost&#039; article rather than this &#039;Shaun Livingston&#039; article but your&#039;e exactly right Ewok, no matter how much Monta distributes the basketball and lowers his turnovers, we are still going to look to him for between 18-22 points every single night, no questions asked.  He is our point guard, but he is also among are top 3 offensive options, that is my biggest concern with his injury, point production.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point Ewok regarding Monta&#8217;s point production as the biggest thing we will miss about this whole situation.</p>
<p>Monta is a great young player and I love his game, he is among the top 5 young best backcourt players in the league along with:  Chris Paul, Derron Williams,Brandon Roye, and Devin Harris, hands down, the best young back court players in the league.</p>
<p>We have to remember we are trying to convert a 22 year old kid from Mississippi into a Point Guard in a 3-4 month period.  It will take much longer than that for Monta to become accustomed to the position, he may never develop fully into a classic Point Guard, which is what I think.  Remember his assist to turnover ratio was terrible last year.  Fact is, Monta turns the ball over and didn&#8217;t look to pass in most 2 on 1 fast break situations last year.</p>
<p>Playing through the season will add to his growth at the position.  There will be wins, losses, poor decisions with the ball, turnovers, all of these hopefully will be part of the successful growth of Monta at this position.  But be ready to see specific losses because of Monta turnovers or poor decisions with ball.  Again, he&#8217;s a great young player, butI know basketball too well.</p>
<p>But Ewok said it the best, and this post is probably more applicable to the &#8216;Monta Lost&#8217; article rather than this &#8216;Shaun Livingston&#8217; article but your&#8217;e exactly right Ewok, no matter how much Monta distributes the basketball and lowers his turnovers, we are still going to look to him for between 18-22 points every single night, no questions asked.  He is our point guard, but he is also among are top 3 offensive options, that is my biggest concern with his injury, point production.</p>
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