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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[marcus, when are they going to change the picture at the top of the page? maybe you could take a poll to see which warrior gets to have his picture at the top.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marcus, when are they going to change the picture at the top of the page? maybe you could take a poll to see which warrior gets to have his picture at the top.</p>
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		<title>By: danikil49</title>
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		<dc:creator>danikil49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We can discuss all kinds of possibilities and scenarios on how th W&#039;s can get better, but until we have a coach who is not caught up on small ball and veterans we have no chance. A.J has it right. until the W&#039;s and that west bay baseball team get some guts and go young (not play at like when we are out of playoff contention then we play young guys.In order to have an identity you have to be consistent.

Nelson keeps running Maggete out as a power forward when he has two young ones on the bench. We are losing anyway Nellie, Let Wright, Turiaf and even Hendrix in the NBDL play and go through all the learning that needs to be done.Chris Paul ,Brandon Roy and Derrick Rose are prime examples of players who developed because their coach was not hung up on veterans. And as much as I like Jack he is a sixth man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can discuss all kinds of possibilities and scenarios on how th W&#8217;s can get better, but until we have a coach who is not caught up on small ball and veterans we have no chance. A.J has it right. until the W&#8217;s and that west bay baseball team get some guts and go young (not play at like when we are out of playoff contention then we play young guys.In order to have an identity you have to be consistent.</p>
<p>Nelson keeps running Maggete out as a power forward when he has two young ones on the bench. We are losing anyway Nellie, Let Wright, Turiaf and even Hendrix in the NBDL play and go through all the learning that needs to be done.Chris Paul ,Brandon Roy and Derrick Rose are prime examples of players who developed because their coach was not hung up on veterans. And as much as I like Jack he is a sixth man.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That picture up there is still from the 2007 playoff run.  God, can&#039;t we let that go by now.  Jesus Christ.  I thought I had had enough when last year&#039;s player introductions began with showing Baron&#039;s dunk over Kirilenko in the 2007 playoffs, but this is unbelievable.  It&#039;s time to move on, 2007 is over.  And so what that we won that series against Dallas.  And so what that Baron dunked on Kirilenko.  A lot of backcourt players can dunk like that too.

It doesn&#039;t mean anything when you can&#039;t consistently win after that.  It&#039;s basically a flash in the plan, a once in a lifetime experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That picture up there is still from the 2007 playoff run.  God, can&#8217;t we let that go by now.  Jesus Christ.  I thought I had had enough when last year&#8217;s player introductions began with showing Baron&#8217;s dunk over Kirilenko in the 2007 playoffs, but this is unbelievable.  It&#8217;s time to move on, 2007 is over.  And so what that we won that series against Dallas.  And so what that Baron dunked on Kirilenko.  A lot of backcourt players can dunk like that too.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t mean anything when you can&#8217;t consistently win after that.  It&#8217;s basically a flash in the plan, a once in a lifetime experience.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/01/pre-game-tid-bits-vs-miami/comment-page-1/#comment-12701</link>
		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Earl Monroe, we did go 2-7 to start last year.

But how many times are we going to act like losers and talk about losing and losing 7 straight and going 2-7 to start last year.

Why can&#039;t we say, &quot;God damnit, we went 9-2 to start the season.  We had a winning record.

This team has taught us so well about losing that we are accustomed to talking about everything like losers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Earl Monroe, we did go 2-7 to start last year.</p>
<p>But how many times are we going to act like losers and talk about losing and losing 7 straight and going 2-7 to start last year.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we say, &#8220;God damnit, we went 9-2 to start the season.  We had a winning record.</p>
<p>This team has taught us so well about losing that we are accustomed to talking about everything like losers.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/01/pre-game-tid-bits-vs-miami/comment-page-1/#comment-12685</link>
		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing that frustrates me the most is that other teams that had begun rebuilding a few years back have already reached their goal of being a good team and the Warriors are not even close.

Portland and New Orleans stand out in my mind.  3-4 years ago, Blazers fans were calling for Paul Allen&#039;s (the owner) head on a silver platter.  They just traded Wallace, they started having problems with Stoudemire and Zack Randolph and they were labeled outcasts by the NBA family.

What did they do in a couple of years.  Nothing, besides hire a winning coach in Nate McMillan, draft a young star guard in Brandon Roy, draft 2 other potentially very good players in Aldridge and Oden.  Kept a strong front line core with Travis Outlaw and Joel Prsyzbila.  And added a veteran PG in Steve Blake.  The result:  6 wins in a row, a 13-6 record and an ascension into the top tier teams in the West.

New Orleans traded Baron Davis to us a couple years back.  Got rid of Tim FLoyd, hired Byron Scott.  Traded JR Smith to Denver.  Aggressively acquired Tyson Chandler from Chicago and drafted a star point guard in Chris Paul and a very good PF in David West, acquired steady veterans like Morris Peterson and Peja Stojakovic and added some good young role players in Hilton Armstrong and Julian Wright.  Result:  Division winners last year and this year a little slow so far, but you expect them to finish at least in the middle of the playoff pack.

And our Warriors are still struggling with their indentity.  The front office doesn&#039;t know what the Coach is doing and vice versa.  And we haven&#039;t even begun rebuilding.  We were never &quot;built&quot; in the first place anyway, let&#039;s face it, 1 playoff appearance and 1 first round victory in the last decade.  Terrible........abosultely terrible.  Every homeless team in the league already rebuilt and has achieved greatness and we can&#039;t even beat the Knicks.

Any thoughts loyal Warrior fans?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that frustrates me the most is that other teams that had begun rebuilding a few years back have already reached their goal of being a good team and the Warriors are not even close.</p>
<p>Portland and New Orleans stand out in my mind.  3-4 years ago, Blazers fans were calling for Paul Allen&#8217;s (the owner) head on a silver platter.  They just traded Wallace, they started having problems with Stoudemire and Zack Randolph and they were labeled outcasts by the NBA family.</p>
<p>What did they do in a couple of years.  Nothing, besides hire a winning coach in Nate McMillan, draft a young star guard in Brandon Roy, draft 2 other potentially very good players in Aldridge and Oden.  Kept a strong front line core with Travis Outlaw and Joel Prsyzbila.  And added a veteran PG in Steve Blake.  The result:  6 wins in a row, a 13-6 record and an ascension into the top tier teams in the West.</p>
<p>New Orleans traded Baron Davis to us a couple years back.  Got rid of Tim FLoyd, hired Byron Scott.  Traded JR Smith to Denver.  Aggressively acquired Tyson Chandler from Chicago and drafted a star point guard in Chris Paul and a very good PF in David West, acquired steady veterans like Morris Peterson and Peja Stojakovic and added some good young role players in Hilton Armstrong and Julian Wright.  Result:  Division winners last year and this year a little slow so far, but you expect them to finish at least in the middle of the playoff pack.</p>
<p>And our Warriors are still struggling with their indentity.  The front office doesn&#8217;t know what the Coach is doing and vice versa.  And we haven&#8217;t even begun rebuilding.  We were never &#8220;built&#8221; in the first place anyway, let&#8217;s face it, 1 playoff appearance and 1 first round victory in the last decade.  Terrible&#8230;&#8230;..abosultely terrible.  Every homeless team in the league already rebuilt and has achieved greatness and we can&#8217;t even beat the Knicks.</p>
<p>Any thoughts loyal Warrior fans?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus,

Call me crazy and realistically this trade would never happen, but with the Warriors and Clippers both currently struggling wouldn’t it make sense if the Warriors could trade Baron to the Clips for Crawford, Bellinelli, &amp; Wright? From a salary cap standpoint the numbers would seem to work: Baron at $13 mil per year for Crawford $10 mil + Wright/Belinelli ($3 mil). With the Clippers struggling mightily out of the gate, Im sure they would love to unload on Baron’s contract with Eric Gordon waiting in the wings at the point. The Clips would acquire Crawford a solid shooting guard in return along with some nice young talent in Wright and Bellinelii? (whom Nellie doesn’t play anyway) The Warriors could throw in a 2nd round draft pick if they wanted to sweeten the pot. Clearly a Dunleavy and Baron marriage has and will not work out: Baron wants free will &amp; reign on offense while Dunleavy wants to run a conventional half court offense with set plays. They have already butted heads and if their record is any indication things don’t be looking to get any better. The Clips could build a solid core around Gordon, Al Thorton, Wright, Bellinelli, Crawford, and the recently acquired Zach Randolph. For the Warriors they could re-acquire Baron and pair him in the backcourt with Monta (once he comes back) along with Jackson, Maggette, and Biedrins to round out starting 5. Off the bench we would have Watson (who has asserted himself lately), Buike, Randolph, Morrow and Turiaf. If I was Nellie I would even start Turiaf and Biedrins together and have Maggette as the 6th man.  From a salary cap perspective the Warriors would be locked into Baron, Monta, Jackson, Maggette, and Biedrins for the next 5 years. Similar to the pistons teams of a few years ago, the core would be set and it would be comfortable for each player to play and not worry about being in a contract year. Baron and Nellie re-united: good things will happen. This season might be a waste anyway, but suppose the Warriors get a solid lottery pick and sign someone with their mid level for next year, they could be right in the western conference race going into next year. Your thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,</p>
<p>Call me crazy and realistically this trade would never happen, but with the Warriors and Clippers both currently struggling wouldn’t it make sense if the Warriors could trade Baron to the Clips for Crawford, Bellinelli, &amp; Wright? From a salary cap standpoint the numbers would seem to work: Baron at $13 mil per year for Crawford $10 mil + Wright/Belinelli ($3 mil). With the Clippers struggling mightily out of the gate, Im sure they would love to unload on Baron’s contract with Eric Gordon waiting in the wings at the point. The Clips would acquire Crawford a solid shooting guard in return along with some nice young talent in Wright and Bellinelii? (whom Nellie doesn’t play anyway) The Warriors could throw in a 2nd round draft pick if they wanted to sweeten the pot. Clearly a Dunleavy and Baron marriage has and will not work out: Baron wants free will &amp; reign on offense while Dunleavy wants to run a conventional half court offense with set plays. They have already butted heads and if their record is any indication things don’t be looking to get any better. The Clips could build a solid core around Gordon, Al Thorton, Wright, Bellinelli, Crawford, and the recently acquired Zach Randolph. For the Warriors they could re-acquire Baron and pair him in the backcourt with Monta (once he comes back) along with Jackson, Maggette, and Biedrins to round out starting 5. Off the bench we would have Watson (who has asserted himself lately), Buike, Randolph, Morrow and Turiaf. If I was Nellie I would even start Turiaf and Biedrins together and have Maggette as the 6th man.  From a salary cap perspective the Warriors would be locked into Baron, Monta, Jackson, Maggette, and Biedrins for the next 5 years. Similar to the pistons teams of a few years ago, the core would be set and it would be comfortable for each player to play and not worry about being in a contract year. Baron and Nellie re-united: good things will happen. This season might be a waste anyway, but suppose the Warriors get a solid lottery pick and sign someone with their mid level for next year, they could be right in the western conference race going into next year. Your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Earl monroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[did we not loose the first 7 last year?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did we not loose the first 7 last year?</p>
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		<title>By: jsl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus, you seem to have a terrific pipeline into the W&#039;s clubhouse (e.g. Al&#039;s disaffection for Nelson).

Why, then, do we get no reportage on what&#039;s happening INSIDE the clubhouse with the young guys -- particularly BW and AR -- who are obviously growing disenchanted with perpetually being treated like dirt by Nelson (e.g. we all saw BW&#039;s interaction with Smart and AR&#039;s grim-faced, nodding agreement, when Nelson -- once again -- had Maggette play the four in Q4 Tuesday, guaranteeing (1) a certain loss and (2) no play for the tall guys at crunch time)?

Isn&#039;t it about time that someone in the print media -- other than TK -- had the cojones to do some analysis and reporting on this rudderless team (even Jack seems unhappy with his coach) whose coach has gone plunging off the deep end -- game after game?  I mean, which opposing coach HASN&#039;T outcoached Nelson since the Clips game?  He was simply brutalized by Del Negro and the Wizards&#039; first game coach -- both of whom beat him badly at his own small ball game.  And it&#039;s gone downhill since then.

Doesn&#039;t anyone read the print/statistical analyses of how much better the team does with a tall (i.e. at least two of the AB-BW-AR-RT foursome) line-up?  Doesn&#039;t anyone see how poorly Maggette performs at the four?  How the game slows down to a crawl with CM in it?  (Never a good sign for small ball -- where speed and passing are required, and where a 13 assist game would be impossible.) How the team NEVER wins when Nelson forces his small ball game in Q4?

And can&#039;t any beat writer see what&#039;s so apparent on the faces of BW and AR (and others), who are obviously getting tired of being trashed by their rigid, arrogant leader?

I&#039;m not asking for anyone to accept my extremely hostile view of what Nelson&#039;s become in his mindless, deranged quest to beat Wilkens&#039; record, regardless of the destruction he&#039;s causing to his own team.  (Nolan might have been as big a liar as Nelson, tho he was nowhere near as arrogant.)  But a little &quot;investigative reporting&quot; would be very welcome.  It just seems as if the beat writers -- and I include Janny and Ron along with you -- are just ignoring the obvious, as if Nelson&#039;s got you cowed or something.

BTW, has anyone seen Rowell around lately?  He was all over the place patting himself on the back for his dramatic interventions over the past six months: signing Maggette for $50MM, extending Nelson&#039;s contract before seeing whether he&#039;d changed any spots from last year, extending ol&#039; Jack into his mid-30s when his contract still had two years to run, and -- of course -- castrating Mullin, the guy who brought the young talent Nelson insists on sitting even as the team craters?  Has that guy just disappeared?  And is it fair to call him out not only as a disaster of a GM but a coward, as well?  Why no analysis of his moves?

So, what&#039;s going on with the beat writers?

A lot of us are asking these questions.  Why aren&#039;t you, in particular, addressing them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus, you seem to have a terrific pipeline into the W&#8217;s clubhouse (e.g. Al&#8217;s disaffection for Nelson).</p>
<p>Why, then, do we get no reportage on what&#8217;s happening INSIDE the clubhouse with the young guys &#8212; particularly BW and AR &#8212; who are obviously growing disenchanted with perpetually being treated like dirt by Nelson (e.g. we all saw BW&#8217;s interaction with Smart and AR&#8217;s grim-faced, nodding agreement, when Nelson &#8212; once again &#8212; had Maggette play the four in Q4 Tuesday, guaranteeing (1) a certain loss and (2) no play for the tall guys at crunch time)?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it about time that someone in the print media &#8212; other than TK &#8212; had the cojones to do some analysis and reporting on this rudderless team (even Jack seems unhappy with his coach) whose coach has gone plunging off the deep end &#8212; game after game?  I mean, which opposing coach HASN&#8217;T outcoached Nelson since the Clips game?  He was simply brutalized by Del Negro and the Wizards&#8217; first game coach &#8212; both of whom beat him badly at his own small ball game.  And it&#8217;s gone downhill since then.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone read the print/statistical analyses of how much better the team does with a tall (i.e. at least two of the AB-BW-AR-RT foursome) line-up?  Doesn&#8217;t anyone see how poorly Maggette performs at the four?  How the game slows down to a crawl with CM in it?  (Never a good sign for small ball &#8212; where speed and passing are required, and where a 13 assist game would be impossible.) How the team NEVER wins when Nelson forces his small ball game in Q4?</p>
<p>And can&#8217;t any beat writer see what&#8217;s so apparent on the faces of BW and AR (and others), who are obviously getting tired of being trashed by their rigid, arrogant leader?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not asking for anyone to accept my extremely hostile view of what Nelson&#8217;s become in his mindless, deranged quest to beat Wilkens&#8217; record, regardless of the destruction he&#8217;s causing to his own team.  (Nolan might have been as big a liar as Nelson, tho he was nowhere near as arrogant.)  But a little &#8220;investigative reporting&#8221; would be very welcome.  It just seems as if the beat writers &#8212; and I include Janny and Ron along with you &#8212; are just ignoring the obvious, as if Nelson&#8217;s got you cowed or something.</p>
<p>BTW, has anyone seen Rowell around lately?  He was all over the place patting himself on the back for his dramatic interventions over the past six months: signing Maggette for $50MM, extending Nelson&#8217;s contract before seeing whether he&#8217;d changed any spots from last year, extending ol&#8217; Jack into his mid-30s when his contract still had two years to run, and &#8212; of course &#8212; castrating Mullin, the guy who brought the young talent Nelson insists on sitting even as the team craters?  Has that guy just disappeared?  And is it fair to call him out not only as a disaster of a GM but a coward, as well?  Why no analysis of his moves?</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s going on with the beat writers?</p>
<p>A lot of us are asking these questions.  Why aren&#8217;t you, in particular, addressing them?</p>
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		<title>By: gissm</title>
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		<dc:creator>gissm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait until Monta returns, but Nelson will undoubtably go with a lineup of ellis/craw/jack/mag/beans....and smallball will continue to fail.
Then, CJ Watson and Azu get minutes over our three backup Bigs, further compounding the problem of not having enough floor balance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait until Monta returns, but Nelson will undoubtably go with a lineup of ellis/craw/jack/mag/beans&#8230;.and smallball will continue to fail.<br />
Then, CJ Watson and Azu get minutes over our three backup Bigs, further compounding the problem of not having enough floor balance.</p>
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		<title>By: We_Are_The_Littles</title>
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		<dc:creator>We_Are_The_Littles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with last night&#039;s game was..............

oh, what the hell.  Nevermind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with last night&#8217;s game was&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>oh, what the hell.  Nevermind.</p>
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