Comments on: Post-game TidBits (at Denver) http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/ with Marcus Thompson Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:36:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: A.J. http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12844 A.J. Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:33:59 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12844 Agreed "Not a Nelson" Look, we're all knowledgable fans, allright? None of us are stupid enough to believe that the blame rests solely on the shoulders of 1 person, 1 player, 1 coach , 1 general manager, or 1 owner. It is the GM's and owners job to bring in the talent, and the coache's job to coach it. However, talent wise, honestly guys, we got some young talent. They just don;t play. The least talented guys play, while the most talented guys sit. That is all Nelson! Agreed “Not a Nelson”

Look, we’re all knowledgable fans, allright?

None of us are stupid enough to believe that the blame rests solely on the shoulders of 1 person, 1 player, 1 coach , 1 general manager, or 1 owner.

It is the GM’s and owners job to bring in the talent, and the coache’s job to coach it.

However, talent wise, honestly guys, we got some young talent. They just don;t play. The least talented guys play, while the most talented guys sit.

That is all Nelson!

]]> By: NotaNelsonfan http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12843 NotaNelsonfan Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:54:21 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12843 Dan, Agree with some of what your saying, but Nellie has to take the blame. Granted were riddles with injuries right now, but it is Nellie and the Ws who are giving up the most points in the NBA. They are giving up over 110 points per game! I'm am watching the Pacers and Warriors now and they gave up 40 points in the first quarter! They went again with the small lineup. This is Nellies decision and nobody elses. We already have over 15 different lineups this year, why can't he start Turiaf along with AB? Almost every sport you see demands tough defense. "Offense entertains and defense wins games". Remember that saying? Thats all the coaches call and nobody else. I have the NBA ticket and ALL the announcers for the other team mention in the pre game that you score like crazy when you play the W's because they do not play defense, and that is due to Nellie's small lineup. Dan,
Agree with some of what your saying, but Nellie has to take the blame. Granted were riddles with injuries right now, but it is Nellie and the Ws who are giving up the most points in the NBA. They are giving up over 110 points per game!

I’m am watching the Pacers and Warriors now and they gave up 40 points in the first quarter! They went again with the small lineup. This is Nellies decision and nobody elses. We already have over 15 different lineups this year, why can’t he start Turiaf along with AB?

Almost every sport you see demands tough defense. “Offense entertains and defense wins games”. Remember that saying? Thats all the coaches call and nobody else.
I have the NBA ticket and ALL the announcers for the other team mention in the pre game that you score like crazy when you play the W’s because they do not play defense, and that is due to Nellie’s small lineup.

]]> By: A.J. http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12842 A.J. Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:06:35 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12842 Update from ESPN.com. No Troy Murphy and TJ Ford tonite against our beloved Golden State Warriors. But we still gotta contend with Granger (no chance there, we wouldn't be able to stop this guy in a telephone booth) and Marquis Daniels, all will be slated to have big games tonite, you watch and see, guaranteed. Update from ESPN.com.

No Troy Murphy and TJ Ford tonite against our beloved Golden State Warriors.

But we still gotta contend with Granger (no chance there, we wouldn’t be able to stop this guy in a telephone booth) and Marquis Daniels, all will be slated to have big games tonite, you watch and see, guaranteed.

]]> By: A.J. http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12819 A.J. Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:37:45 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12819 I think we'll lose in Indiana tonight too. We will not be able to stop DAnny Granger, he will kill us, guaranteed. Also, Dunleavy is out but who's gonna stop Marquis Daniels? I don't know if TJ Ford will play tonite, he's been injured lately. But Indiana has the type of team that would easily be able to beat us tonite, no problem. Matter of fact, I predict a double double for Troy Murphy, an easy double double for Danny Granger, probably with about 23 points and about 14 from Marquis Daniels. All in all, we will lose tonite too. I think we’ll lose in Indiana tonight too.

We will not be able to stop DAnny Granger, he will kill us, guaranteed.

Also, Dunleavy is out but who’s gonna stop Marquis Daniels?

I don’t know if TJ Ford will play tonite, he’s been injured lately.

But Indiana has the type of team that would easily be able to beat us tonite, no problem.

Matter of fact, I predict a double double for Troy Murphy, an easy double double for Danny Granger, probably with about 23 points and about 14 from Marquis Daniels.

All in all, we will lose tonite too.

]]> By: rewgolfer http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12841 rewgolfer Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:20:53 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12841 The Warriors will be just fine when these injury problems get resolved. The Warriors starting five of Biedrens, Crawford, Monta, Magette, Captain Jack is going to be awesome, but they haven't been healthy and on the floor yet this season. Magette, Jackson, and Monta - all have been injured, so these losses are not that big of deal. The loss of Monta has hurt especially, he's our Kobe Bryant, - the kind of player that makes a team twice as dangerous, but he's not played a minute. These young guys they have playing - like CJ Watson, and Randolph have been woeful on defense, as young players tend to be, so that's really caused this skid. Prblematic, is the Warriors will be so far under 500 when Monta comes back they will probably fight to get back to 500, and never get close to making the playoffs. Next year is going to be the year they really break out - they just need one more good frontline player. The Warriors will be just fine when these injury problems get resolved. The Warriors starting five of Biedrens, Crawford, Monta, Magette, Captain Jack is going to be awesome, but they haven’t been healthy and on the floor yet this season. Magette, Jackson, and Monta – all have been injured, so these losses are not that big of deal. The loss of Monta has hurt especially, he’s our Kobe Bryant, – the kind of player that makes a team twice as dangerous, but he’s not played a minute. These young guys they have playing – like CJ Watson, and Randolph have been woeful on defense, as young players tend to be, so that’s really caused this skid. Prblematic, is the Warriors will be so far under 500 when Monta comes back they will probably fight to get back to 500, and never get close to making the playoffs. Next year is going to be the year they really break out – they just need one more good frontline player.

]]> By: Dan http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12840 Dan Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:04:21 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12840 Drama, Honestly how many people thought Denver was going to take off like they have? When they had AI, who is arguably more talented than Billups, they were in the scrap heap just like the Warriors. This Warriors team has nothing even resembling consistency from it's keys parts. This team has no set identity, and as result there can be no rhythm established, there can be only spasms. Is that all Nelson's fault? I doubt it. It is all about talent. It is still a players league to the core, and if Belinelli is one of your top 2 scorers you're screwed. I mean there is no one on this team without a fairly large whole in their game. Coaching can't fix Jackson's hand, Monta's ankle, Maggette's hammy, Andris' slight frame, or the flu. In spite of AR's seeming like more of an athlete than Kurz, does he have the same NBA game? Is that Nelson's fault? If it is then, it must be assumed that Nelson did a better job bringing along the guy who didn't make the team, than he did bringing along the first round pick. I don't buy it. I would also doubt that Nelson advised Belinelli not to close out on Jameer Nelson as he spent the better part of the 2nd half murdering from the behind the arc. Can Nelson really be blamed if his players just aren't THAT good yet? Chemistry, is part in parcel with effort and success. There can't be any chemistry yet because everybody is hurt, and inexperienced, and so they get trounced. I just don't get it, when we as fans expect Belinelli, Kelenna, Morrow, Randolph, Wright, Kurz, and Watson to be more than what they are. They collectively don't start on good teams. They just don't. They are all 6th - 10th men. C.J. is playing out of mind right now, and even he has glaring problems in game. And the idea that this is Nelson's fault is tired. The players bear the responsibility to push themselves to succeed. If not then Phil Jackson would be the reason the Kobe is freakishly good, that M.J. was the best ever. Look no further than your NBA champion Celtics to see what talent and chemistry mean. Doc Rivers is garbage in comparison to Nelson, and he just got a ring. We should all take a step back, and realize that Nelson's good, the players aren't. I mean Nelson isn't God, he has some major failings as a schemer, and defensive mind, but he can't be held responsible for the fact someone didn't do enough work on their jumper. Blah, blah, blah... LIVE BLOG MT... DO IT!!! Make it happen #1. Drama,
Honestly how many people thought Denver was going to take off like they have? When they had AI, who is arguably more talented than Billups, they were in the scrap heap just like the Warriors.
This Warriors team has nothing even resembling consistency from it’s keys parts. This team has no set identity, and as result there can be no rhythm established, there can be only spasms. Is that all Nelson’s fault? I doubt it. It is all about talent. It is still a players league to the core, and if Belinelli is one of your top 2 scorers you’re screwed. I mean there is no one on this team without a fairly large whole in their game. Coaching can’t fix Jackson’s hand, Monta’s ankle, Maggette’s hammy, Andris’ slight frame, or the flu.
In spite of AR’s seeming like more of an athlete than Kurz, does he have the same NBA game? Is that Nelson’s fault? If it is then, it must be assumed that Nelson did a better job bringing along the guy who didn’t make the team, than he did bringing along the first round pick. I don’t buy it.
I would also doubt that Nelson advised Belinelli not to close out on Jameer Nelson as he spent the better part of the 2nd half murdering from the behind the arc. Can Nelson really be blamed if his players just aren’t THAT good yet? Chemistry, is part in parcel with effort and success. There can’t be any chemistry yet because everybody is hurt, and inexperienced, and so they get trounced.
I just don’t get it, when we as fans expect Belinelli, Kelenna, Morrow, Randolph, Wright, Kurz, and Watson to be more than what they are. They collectively don’t start on good teams. They just don’t. They are all 6th – 10th men. C.J. is playing out of mind right now, and even he has glaring problems in game. And the idea that this is Nelson’s fault is tired. The players bear the responsibility to push themselves to succeed. If not then Phil Jackson would be the reason the Kobe is freakishly good, that M.J. was the best ever.

Look no further than your NBA champion Celtics to see what talent and chemistry mean. Doc Rivers is garbage in comparison to Nelson, and he just got a ring. We should all take a step back, and realize that Nelson’s good, the players aren’t. I mean Nelson isn’t God, he has some major failings as a schemer, and defensive mind, but he can’t be held responsible for the fact someone didn’t do enough work on their jumper.

Blah, blah, blah… LIVE BLOG MT… DO IT!!! Make it happen #1.

]]> By: jsl http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12839 jsl Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:16:45 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12839 Marcus: Is Nelson aware of just how reviled he's become -- not only by the fans who care about this team (and seem to know a bit more about the game than the vast majority of those in attendance at Oracle), but by virtually all the young guys he continues to treat like crap? (It looks from here like his relationship with AR might already be beyond repair; I expect the same will shortly prove true with BW and, perhaps, even Goose.) Maybe one of the beat writers could ask him why he continues to play smaller and slower, and uses the league's worst shooter in Jackson 40 minutes a game, when there's so much young talent that NEEDS to play. If that doesn't work, how about some interviews with the young bigs -- starting with AR, whose eyes looked like they were gonna burn ahole in Nelson's thick skull last night. Marcus: Is Nelson aware of just how reviled he’s become — not only by the fans who care about this team (and seem to know a bit more about the game than the vast majority of those in attendance at Oracle), but by virtually all the young guys he continues to treat like crap?

(It looks from here like his relationship with AR might already be beyond repair; I expect the same will shortly prove true with BW and, perhaps, even Goose.)

Maybe one of the beat writers could ask him why he continues to play smaller and slower, and uses the league’s worst shooter in Jackson 40 minutes a game, when there’s so much young talent that NEEDS to play. If that doesn’t work, how about some interviews with the young bigs — starting with AR, whose eyes looked like they were gonna burn ahole in Nelson’s thick skull last night.

]]> By: A.J. http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12838 A.J. Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:51:13 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12838 This team sucks so bad that we're not getting any updated tidbits from our friend and neighbor, Marcus. Last night we saw a perfect example of a well-coached NBA playoff team with good young talent and excellent veteran leadership: THe Orlando Magic. This team would be a playoff team in the West as well. Excellent veteran play from Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson and Rashard Lewis. But let's not forget Keith Bogans, who last lit the Warriors in the past, but was quiet last night. They play fantastic defense, good team defense preached by Stan Van Gundy. Their best player was out last night so they had to turn to somebody, and who came through, Jameer Nelson? When was the last time a Warrior stepped up in the absence of another Warrior? Anyway, we continue to see countless examples of well coached NBA playoff teams with offensive and defensive philisophies, while we are continuing to lose games. Also, how strange to see the disenchantment with Chris Mullin by Warrior ownership. I mean last year you would see this guy standing underneath the rafters or sitting next to Mitch Richmond. Now, Mullin is nowhere to be found. You thought we saw a lot of changes this past off season, wait till next off season 2009. Guaranteed, you can kiss Chris Mullin godbye. He will be in New York next year. He's a New York guy, went to St. John's and he loves everything about the East Coast. And expect a bunch of wholesale changes with personnel. This team sucks so bad that we’re not getting any updated tidbits from our friend and neighbor, Marcus.

Last night we saw a perfect example of a well-coached NBA playoff team with good young talent and excellent veteran leadership: THe Orlando Magic.

This team would be a playoff team in the West as well. Excellent veteran play from Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson and Rashard Lewis. But let’s not forget Keith Bogans, who last lit the Warriors in the past, but was quiet last night. They play fantastic defense, good team defense preached by Stan Van Gundy. Their best player was out last night so they had to turn to somebody, and who came through, Jameer Nelson?

When was the last time a Warrior stepped up in the absence of another Warrior?

Anyway, we continue to see countless examples of well coached NBA playoff teams with offensive and defensive philisophies, while we are continuing to lose games.

Also, how strange to see the disenchantment with Chris Mullin by Warrior ownership. I mean last year you would see this guy standing underneath the rafters or sitting next to Mitch Richmond.

Now, Mullin is nowhere to be found.

You thought we saw a lot of changes this past off season, wait till next off season 2009.

Guaranteed, you can kiss Chris Mullin godbye. He will be in New York next year. He’s a New York guy, went to St. John’s and he loves everything about the East Coast. And expect a bunch of wholesale changes with personnel.

]]> By: A.J. http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12837 A.J. Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:08:36 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12837 Blah, I like where your'e headed however I would not start Turiaf at 4, but rather start Wright at 4, and have Turiaf spell Biedrins at the 5. Here are the best line-ups: 1. Crawford/Belinelli / Watson 2. Maggette / Azabuike / Morrow 3. Jackson / Randolph 4. Wright / Kurz or Hendrix 5. Biedrins / Turiaf Blah, I like where your’e headed however I would not start Turiaf at 4, but rather start Wright at 4, and have Turiaf spell Biedrins at the 5.

Here are the best line-ups:

1. Crawford/Belinelli / Watson
2. Maggette / Azabuike / Morrow
3. Jackson / Randolph
4. Wright / Kurz or Hendrix
5. Biedrins / Turiaf

]]> By: JustPuked http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/13/post-game-tidbits-at-denver/comment-page-1/#comment-12836 JustPuked Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:06:22 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=765#comment-12836 Post Game Magic: D.R. Horton has their own problems; they ain't hiring Warriors no matter how efficient they are at laying brinks. Post Game Magic:
D.R. Horton has their own problems; they ain’t hiring Warriors no matter how efficient they are at laying brinks.

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