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		<title>By: the Seer</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Seer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like Shawn Marion wants to come here..Forget it!!
There is zero chance that he would come play in this mess..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Shawn Marion wants to come here..Forget it!!<br />
There is zero chance that he would come play in this mess..</p>
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		<title>By: the Seer</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/01/21/want-the-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-13264</link>
		<dc:creator>the Seer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its always fun when the Warriors play good teams and they find out that they are lightyears from anywhere and right at the cap for the next four years..So cool to be a Warriors fan..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its always fun when the Warriors play good teams and they find out that they are lightyears from anywhere and right at the cap for the next four years..So cool to be a Warriors fan..</p>
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		<title>By: Kweezy</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/01/21/want-the-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-13310</link>
		<dc:creator>Kweezy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would personally love to get Marion! But not at the price of any of our youngsters. I would have to agree with NOTAFANOFNELSON in that either Maggette or Crawford would be the ones to go. I&#039;d trade Maggette and a 2nd rounder in a heartbeat (even though he has been playing well as a 6th man, his contract is enormous).

But I&#039;m really interested in seeing how this Ellis and Crawford back court is going to work out. We&#039;ve heard lots about how Jamal would be an ideal backcourt mate for Monta. And the two seem to genuinly like one another. However, I do have to admit I am pretty scared about how they are going to work on defense.

Sure, the Warriors don&#039;t have a legit starting caliber TRUE PG who averages 10 assists a game. But I think having 3 guys (Jackson, Ellis, Crawford) who average 5,6 maybe even 7 assists a game can be just as effective. Throw in Biedrens and Turiaf who have been passing incredibly lately, and I think you&#039;ve got yourself a very different team from the isolation, dribble dribble shoot one we saw earlier in the season]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would personally love to get Marion! But not at the price of any of our youngsters. I would have to agree with NOTAFANOFNELSON in that either Maggette or Crawford would be the ones to go. I&#8217;d trade Maggette and a 2nd rounder in a heartbeat (even though he has been playing well as a 6th man, his contract is enormous).</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m really interested in seeing how this Ellis and Crawford back court is going to work out. We&#8217;ve heard lots about how Jamal would be an ideal backcourt mate for Monta. And the two seem to genuinly like one another. However, I do have to admit I am pretty scared about how they are going to work on defense.</p>
<p>Sure, the Warriors don&#8217;t have a legit starting caliber TRUE PG who averages 10 assists a game. But I think having 3 guys (Jackson, Ellis, Crawford) who average 5,6 maybe even 7 assists a game can be just as effective. Throw in Biedrens and Turiaf who have been passing incredibly lately, and I think you&#8217;ve got yourself a very different team from the isolation, dribble dribble shoot one we saw earlier in the season</p>
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		<title>By: jaxfor3</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/01/21/want-the-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-13309</link>
		<dc:creator>jaxfor3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am going to have to agree with Trey on blowing up this organization and just starting over.

The Warriors as a franchise is a flawed organization.  At the top, we have executives not looking to put in the money and effort to create a winning brand of basketball but just enough to turn a profit.

At this stage of his career, the coach is looking to win and win with his style of basketball. He&#039;s not looking to develop the young guys for the future or implement a new style of play because he won&#039;t be around to reap the benefits.

Then we have a group of over-priced players that are selfish, unskilled, or plain lazy.

Toss those things together and the future of the Warriros look bleak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to have to agree with Trey on blowing up this organization and just starting over.</p>
<p>The Warriors as a franchise is a flawed organization.  At the top, we have executives not looking to put in the money and effort to create a winning brand of basketball but just enough to turn a profit.</p>
<p>At this stage of his career, the coach is looking to win and win with his style of basketball. He&#8217;s not looking to develop the young guys for the future or implement a new style of play because he won&#8217;t be around to reap the benefits.</p>
<p>Then we have a group of over-priced players that are selfish, unskilled, or plain lazy.</p>
<p>Toss those things together and the future of the Warriros look bleak.</p>
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		<title>By: NotaNelsonfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotaNelsonfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marion is getting up there in age and his stats are dropping from 18 career pts a game down to 12 points a game. Marion also reinjured his groin again, you know how that goes.

Don&#039;t gettng rid of our rook or secnd year players for Marion.  If anything unload Maggette and Crawford.

I come to reality about hoping to get a guy like Boozer.  Won&#039;t work!  Not with Nellie&#039;s small ball.  He&#039;ll probably turn Boozer into a Point F. Can you really see Nellies game using a post up player, and slow down the run and gun?

It&#039;s really sad having Nellie as a coach for all of us including the W players.  I missed the first half of the last Game against OKC, but noticed his small lineup again, granted we did not have AB.  I assume that AR really did something wrong to not play the second half.

I&#039;m sick of Nellies philosophy of the small lineup.  Can you see Phil Jackson not starting Gasol and Bynum if they were playing a team with a smaller center of PF?  Some may think that our big guys don&#039;t have the talent of other big men in the NBA, but how would we ever know that unless we went with a consistent big lineup and try it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marion is getting up there in age and his stats are dropping from 18 career pts a game down to 12 points a game. Marion also reinjured his groin again, you know how that goes.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t gettng rid of our rook or secnd year players for Marion.  If anything unload Maggette and Crawford.</p>
<p>I come to reality about hoping to get a guy like Boozer.  Won&#8217;t work!  Not with Nellie&#8217;s small ball.  He&#8217;ll probably turn Boozer into a Point F. Can you really see Nellies game using a post up player, and slow down the run and gun?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really sad having Nellie as a coach for all of us including the W players.  I missed the first half of the last Game against OKC, but noticed his small lineup again, granted we did not have AB.  I assume that AR really did something wrong to not play the second half.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of Nellies philosophy of the small lineup.  Can you see Phil Jackson not starting Gasol and Bynum if they were playing a team with a smaller center of PF?  Some may think that our big guys don&#8217;t have the talent of other big men in the NBA, but how would we ever know that unless we went with a consistent big lineup and try it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamarcus Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamarcus Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about this one?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=165~497~3039~125~193~312~510~3046&amp;teams=12~12~14~14~14~14~9~9&amp;te=&amp;cash=

Miami will, without a single doubt, more than happy to go through with this trade.  The Warriors should be happy too since they&#039;re able to get rid of Maggette&#039;s contract and take on a large expiring one in return.  The only problem is whether or not the Clippers would want Maggette back. Maybe a few future draft picks from the Warriors and Miami to sweeten the deal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this one?<br />
<a href="http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=165~497~3039~125~193~312~510~3046&#038;teams=12~12~14~14~14~14~9~9&#038;te=&#038;cash=" rel="nofollow">http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=165~497~3039~125~193~312~510~3046&#038;teams=12~12~14~14~14~14~9~9&#038;te=&#038;cash=</a></p>
<p>Miami will, without a single doubt, more than happy to go through with this trade.  The Warriors should be happy too since they&#8217;re able to get rid of Maggette&#8217;s contract and take on a large expiring one in return.  The only problem is whether or not the Clippers would want Maggette back. Maybe a few future draft picks from the Warriors and Miami to sweeten the deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, you&#039;re right. You do have to take the good and bad with Monta. He&#039;s a talented scorer, and that is a great skill. And he has turned into one of the best finishers. And to be fair, he&#039;s also a very good rebounder for his size, so I guess I really should label him two-dimensional.

He&#039;s a good player, but he&#039;s got way too many deficiencies to use as the centerpiece of your franchise. If he wasn&#039;t being promoted as the future of the franchise, I wouldn&#039;t have a too much of a problem with him. But when he&#039;s &quot;the man&quot; and we&#039;re building around him, well, I have a major problem with him.

And Goingforthemoney, I&#039;ve been a season ticket holder since 1994 and spent 12 years thinking &quot;good things come to those who wait&quot;, only to see us throw away our one franchise player this last summer. Ellis/Biedrins/Randolph/Wright really are just slightly better versions of JRich/Dunleavy/Murphy/Diogu.

And that got us to a late lottery pick every year - the very definition of mediocrity. Blow this damn thing up, and start by dumping salary through Marion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you&#8217;re right. You do have to take the good and bad with Monta. He&#8217;s a talented scorer, and that is a great skill. And he has turned into one of the best finishers. And to be fair, he&#8217;s also a very good rebounder for his size, so I guess I really should label him two-dimensional.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a good player, but he&#8217;s got way too many deficiencies to use as the centerpiece of your franchise. If he wasn&#8217;t being promoted as the future of the franchise, I wouldn&#8217;t have a too much of a problem with him. But when he&#8217;s &#8220;the man&#8221; and we&#8217;re building around him, well, I have a major problem with him.</p>
<p>And Goingforthemoney, I&#8217;ve been a season ticket holder since 1994 and spent 12 years thinking &#8220;good things come to those who wait&#8221;, only to see us throw away our one franchise player this last summer. Ellis/Biedrins/Randolph/Wright really are just slightly better versions of JRich/Dunleavy/Murphy/Diogu.</p>
<p>And that got us to a late lottery pick every year &#8211; the very definition of mediocrity. Blow this damn thing up, and start by dumping salary through Marion.</p>
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		<title>By: goingforthemoney.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>goingforthemoney.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus,
The W&#039;s need to stick to the plan of developing their own very young roster and forget about all this banter of trading anybody for the matrix. This team will get better the longer they play together. They just need to come up with a defensive philosophy and stick to it. Good things comes to those who wait. Legit power forwards rarely come along. Eventually they&#039;ll land a plumb out of college and there fortunes will change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,<br />
The W&#8217;s need to stick to the plan of developing their own very young roster and forget about all this banter of trading anybody for the matrix. This team will get better the longer they play together. They just need to come up with a defensive philosophy and stick to it. Good things comes to those who wait. Legit power forwards rarely come along. Eventually they&#8217;ll land a plumb out of college and there fortunes will change.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone please remove Al Harrington from the banner at the top of this site?  It&#039;s clearly dated.  Plus, it&#039;s bad ju-ju to have a disgruntled ex-player on a team-related website.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please remove Al Harrington from the banner at the top of this site?  It&#8217;s clearly dated.  Plus, it&#8217;s bad ju-ju to have a disgruntled ex-player on a team-related website.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Trey&quot;.............you are absolutely NOT a Monta Ellis fan, I can see that.

You are absolutely right, he has &quot;0&quot; passing ability and &quot;0&quot; ball handling ability, I have always questioned those about him as well.  Not much of a Point Guard if you don&#039;t have those underlying skills.  And you could read my previous posts under the name &quot;A.J.&quot; and see that I have always said that Monta cannot handle or pass.

The one thing he DOES do though is shoot very well from the field for a backcourt player.  Remember last seaon in the second half, he led ALL guards in FGP after the All Star break.  His mid range pull up is absolutely &quot;deadly.&quot;

But he don&#039;t play no defense and he can&#039;t pass or dribble, you&#039;re right, he&#039;s primarily a &quot;scorer,&quot; because you can&#039;t call him a &quot;pure shooter&quot; or a &quot;point guard.&quot;  The description that fits him best is &quot;scorer.&quot;

But he&#039;s fast and quick and explosive in the open court as much as Tony Parker and Steve Nash but without the ball handling ability.

He also finishes on both sides of the rim better than anyone in the league with both his right hand and left hands.  Tony Parker is good at that as well.

You take the good with the bad with him, I understand your Kirk Hinrich point primarily for tradiional &quot;point guard&quot; leadership and defense.

If that&#039;s the case, how about going after a guy like Chauncey Billups?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Trey&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.you are absolutely NOT a Monta Ellis fan, I can see that.</p>
<p>You are absolutely right, he has &#8220;0&#8243; passing ability and &#8220;0&#8243; ball handling ability, I have always questioned those about him as well.  Not much of a Point Guard if you don&#8217;t have those underlying skills.  And you could read my previous posts under the name &#8220;A.J.&#8221; and see that I have always said that Monta cannot handle or pass.</p>
<p>The one thing he DOES do though is shoot very well from the field for a backcourt player.  Remember last seaon in the second half, he led ALL guards in FGP after the All Star break.  His mid range pull up is absolutely &#8220;deadly.&#8221;</p>
<p>But he don&#8217;t play no defense and he can&#8217;t pass or dribble, you&#8217;re right, he&#8217;s primarily a &#8220;scorer,&#8221; because you can&#8217;t call him a &#8220;pure shooter&#8221; or a &#8220;point guard.&#8221;  The description that fits him best is &#8220;scorer.&#8221;</p>
<p>But he&#8217;s fast and quick and explosive in the open court as much as Tony Parker and Steve Nash but without the ball handling ability.</p>
<p>He also finishes on both sides of the rim better than anyone in the league with both his right hand and left hands.  Tony Parker is good at that as well.</p>
<p>You take the good with the bad with him, I understand your Kirk Hinrich point primarily for tradiional &#8220;point guard&#8221; leadership and defense.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, how about going after a guy like Chauncey Billups?</p>
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