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Warriors Trying for Bosh, Too

I agree. This is from the “duh” files. The Warriors put in their bid for Chris Bosh, according to a team source. Haven’t confirmed if it was just talks, or an offer was made. But unlike Phoenix, who is trying to dump salary, Toronto is looking for some ballers in return, but only if they are convinced they will lose Bosh, who can opt out after next season.
The Raptors, according to an insider, aren’t likely to move Bosh until this offseason. Though they are last in the Atlanta Atlantic Division (thanks, Jo Blough), the Raptors are one move away from competing for the eighth spot in the East. They are only 5 1/5 games behind N.J.
They’d prefer to find someone to put next to Bosh (I’ve heard they want Biedrins next to Bosh), but could end up moving him. Again, all this is just what I’m told.
Obviously, nabbing Bosh would require the Warriors to move a big name — Biedrins or Ellis — and some young talent to help Toronto rebuild. So this just shows that they are willing. The fact that they are throwing their name in the hat for these big players, even if futile, is a change in pace. These two were untouchable. Now, the Warriors are willing to play all their cards, even though they haven’t seen everyone healthy for a significant length of time yet.
Is this good that the Warriors are willing to make such big moves? Or should the Warriors stay the course with this squad?

Marcus Thompson

  • Mike W.

    The Ws should consider any move that will improve the team. On the other hand, I’d hate to lose AB or ME, having watched them grow with the team. But if Toronto offered Bosh, an all-star, for AB, I’d have to think for half a second before saying yes. Of course, we’d have to give them something else, and there’s the rub.

  • http://mysteryclubadventures.blogspot.com Channing

    I love it. Probably nothing will come of it, but it’s clear the Warriors management got the message that something needs to be done.

    Last year proved that although the Warriors are a decent team with Baron and this year proved they’re a bad team without him. Management screwed up the Warriors salary cap with the panic Maggette signing, and a long extension for Jackson. So now the Warriors can recoup their losses, try to get a star calibre player (Bosh or Amar’e) to build around and see what happens.

    Trading Biedrins, however doesn’t make much sense. He’s a great complementary player for any big stud superstar and the Warriors need him as a focal point for their rebuilding efforts. High scoring guards like Monta are easier to find in the draft and free agency. High quality centers that rebound, don’t demand the ball and don’t clog up the offense in the post are rare.

    –Channing

  • jsl

    Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

    The Amare chase is pure lunacy. Has anyone watched his game this year? Did you see how KA ate him up at the Oracle? Do you realize he can’t/won’t defend? (Tho this obviously makes him more attractive to an idiot like Nelson.) Do you like his stand-around game on offense? Who will feed him once he loses Nash?

    This is a guy who had microfracture surgery, and though he’s come back he’s not nearly the player he was before. (The same thing could happen with Monta and his ankle, but at least he’s got a good chance of regaining his prowess; Amare has shown us he never will.)

    Some rumors have the Warriors “tossing in” AR, as well. Dumb, dumb, dumb. In two years AR will have far surpassed Amare, even if we have to watch him do it in a different uniform, since we’re still saddled with Nelson and Rowell running this show (Ugh!).

    Bosh is a different kettle of fish, but why would Toronto give him up? And if we had to trade Goose, would it make a big difference? And can’t Bosh walk soon?

    Finally, the money names being tossed around — AB and Monta — are both BYC players. How does a deal work with either of them anyway?

    Sounds so typically Rowell-Nelson: do something without really considering the consequences — sort of like needlessly signing and/or extending mid-range guys so you never have any expiring contracts. What doofuses these jokers are.

  • Mike W.

    A bit of a convoluted rush to judgement, jsl. No trade has been made, but you make up loony possibilities, give them a thumbs down, and trash Ws management because they might act on one of the loony possibilities that you yourself made up. Who is the real doofus in that scenario?

  • oregonwarriorfan

    Even though the Warriors need a legit power forward and Amare and Bosh are 2 of the best, I would not want to see them part with Biedrens or Monta. For a longtime fan it has been a pleasure to see them grow up with us. It also does not make sense to plug one hole while opening up 2 more, especially at Biedren’s position. I actually like what the Warriors currently have and I think free agents like David Lee, Paul Milsap or, of course, Carlos Boozer or Lamar Odom could be acquired without having to gut the squad. And with the dubs being the youngest team in the league, I don’t see being in ‘cap hell’ for a few years as being as important as getting one of those guys. When you are just one piece away…My son says get a power forward who WANTS to rebound, doesn’t need the ball on offense and HUSTLES, and this will be one hell of a team. I agree.

  • jsl

    Mike W: Such rapier sharp analysis @4. So many specifics. And, umm, the “loony possibilities” to which you inexplicably refer are precisely those being reported. (I do agree they are loony; that was the point, you see. Giving up AR and either Monta or Goose for Amare would be loony, and if Rowell-Nelson were to make such a deal it would simply re-affirm their lunacy.)

    BTW, do you have any idea what “convoluted” means? Thought not. And no first “e” in judgment.

  • David

    With all the PFs seemingly about to be traded, it there any talk of teams going after Rasheed Wallace? Obviously he is not as young as Amare or CB4, but if I had to pick between the 3 I’d go with Sheed – best defender out of these 3, equally as good rebounder, and he has 3 point range on his jumper.
    Any takers?

  • petaluman

    Bosh is getting 14.1M this year, with Amare earning 15.1M, so I doubt we’re seriously trying to get either of them. We’re just keeping our hand in; big deals often involve more than 2 teams.

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  • http://www.bayareascores.com Slicker

    Why give up anything for a guy that we can get via free agent or draft? Might not be a top notch PF, but we don’t need a super star 15mil+ guy at PF… we need a Blake Griffen out of OK or look for a mid-level guy this summer.
    bayareascores.com

  • MountainJim

    Hey Jsl, go check a dictionary and you’ll find that there’s a second accepted spelling. I checked, and convoluted had a copy of your post next to it.

    I’d trade Monta and Randolph for Bosh in a heartbeat.

  • jsl

    MountainJim: Get yourself a real dictionary. Learn to read. Then, look up “usage.” Right after you look up “judgment” and “convoluted.”

    Oh. And if you traded Monta and AR for Bosh — who I said was a “different kettle of fish” from Amare — just how long do you think you’d keep Bosh? THAT’s the real question. Let’s pay attention here.

  • http://Hoopshype.com Cavon

    I think that nabbing bosh would be a good thing for the W’s but who would raps get in return. Raps need someone like bosh who can help raps reach the eight’s spot. i think that trading o’neal for shawn whould be a better deal for the raps right now.

  • Ron Redwoods

    Bosh and Amare would GO at the end of next year. We’ve been a playoff team ONCE in a decade-so are not a “contender”. Guys we probably HAVE for 5 years..that’s what matters. A Patch..a “feel good” illusion, ends up being a regression much too soon. These guys want to get $20 mill deals and be on a contender. We’re unlikely to go Lux Tax OR be a contender. GSW has to leasn to MAKE stars.

    STUPID would be trading 5 1/2 yr of Biedrins for 1 1/2 yr of Bosh….especially as we’d have to add someone to match salary

  • scott

    Hello from Toronto.

    Let’s make a deal. Except we want Biedrins, Randolph and Belinelli….and we’ll give you bosh and joey graham. We almost did a joey for belinelli earlier in the year so let’s pull the trigger.

    We need another Italiano to play with Il Mago up North and any other quality euro (Biedrins)since that is the way we roll up here; eurostyle.

  • blah

    Trading Goose for Bosh? We’re the raptors now of the west. If we loose Goose, then Bosh goes to NY. And we’re left with our dik in our hands and a draft pick, yeah! How exciting!!!!!! yeay!!! I’m a little girl. Yeay!! Amare!!! – overrated, like eveyone who plays with Nash and gets easy buckets and scores alot of point becuase they’re in high scoring games (i.e. Marion).

    JSL I got your back.

    Oregonwarriorfan, well put. Your son is on the money. May I suggest Blake Griffin to fit your discription. Trade one of our wings with a our pick for the Griffin who will be reletively cheap for 3 years. Can score with out needing the ball all the time and will rebound and play defense. Just a thought. A better & more realistic scenario too.

  • Sonataiga

    This is CRAZY. Just plain CRAZY. I’m from T.O. We are not going to trade a guy who can opt out AFTER next year, averaging 20+ and 10 for Monta and Biedrins and Stephen “buck buck” Jackson.

    And saying Beidrins is a big name: joke.

    Oden and Bayless for Bosh.

  • Mike

    ME can go for all I care and Cory can follow. The Warriors need a PG and a 4, I really dont care how they do it, cuz we’ll be picking 14th next year till the owner and front-office/Nelson are gone

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  • ds

    Marcus, nice thought, but what happens when Bosh wants to opt out after next year, and why would he want to come to the Warriors who are worse than the Raptors are, and will be even worse depending on if they have to give up Biedrins and or Monte?

  • mf

    bosh is a player…and if winning he’ll resign..but the only he ges traded to the warriors is if they giv up both monta and ab…i wouldnt b surprised if the raptors ask for even more…but a lineup of jcraw jack maggete cb4 and turiaf with the young fellas lus a high draft pick next year is darnn good

  • mf

    bosh is a player…and if winning he’ll resign..but the only he ges traded to the warriors is if they giv up both monta and ab…i wouldnt b surprised if the raptors ask for even more…but a lineup of jcraw jack maggete cb4 and turiaf with the young fellas lus a high draft pick next year is darnn good

  • Jo Blough

    How much can you believe an article where “Atlanta” apparently is now a division in the NBA?

    Bosh is a franchise player, nobody the Warriors have can say the same. Why trade with the Warriors when I’m sure there are far better options on the table?

  • J-Walk

    I just put this trade into the ESPN machine and it worked. What do you guys think?
    Warriors get Amare S.
    Warriors send Maggette and Williams to Cleveland
    Warriors send Bellinelli, Wright and #1 to Phoenix
    Cleveland sends Wally Z. and #1 to Phoenix

    Phoenix gets immediate relief of 13,775,000 after the season, plus 2 young players on there initial deal and 2 additional #1′s.

    Cleveland gets a back up point plus another scoring threat for the championship run

    Warriors get an all star and keep Monta and Beans

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  • sweetestbaby

    Trade Chris Bosh for Amare Stoudemire.

  • Road Orange

    JSL #3

    You’re basing your opinion of Amare strictly on what he’s done recently. That’s “Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.”

    You don’t how the trades can be worked out because of the BYC issue?

    That’s also “Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.”

    AR will surpass Amare in 2 years?
    That’s also “Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.”
    (In fact, that’s beyond stupid. Is this the first year you’ve ever watched basketball?)

    You’re dingbatting .1000
    Keep it up.

  • jsl

    J-Walk: Good work and creative thinking! But one major problem. Big men absolutely hate Nelson. (Wonder why.)

    So, why would Amare stay here after next year? (Of course, that’s not really a problem for Nelson, since he surely won’t be here then anyway, and he could pass Lenny — and satisfy his insane quest to be the winningest coach who never won the big one.) Despite Nelson’s quest, we really don’t need a rental — though it’d at least free up cap space (which Rowell would quickly fill again, no doubt, perhaps by extending Jack and Jamal into their 40s).

    Anyway, nice try. And my hunch is that Rowell-Nelson will come up with something far worse.

  • Oregonwarriorfan

    J-walk: A starting line-up of Biedrens, Amare, Jackson, Monta and Crawford, a bench rotation of Turiaf, CJ and the remaining minutes split between Morrow and Randolph. That’s a nice mix of experience and potential, bench players who are getting their seasoning as we speak, and no glut of wings mouldering on the bench. That’s a hell of a team. My son says put David Lee in the starting line-up and just stop right there. He’s Nellie’s kind of big man because he makes good decisions with the ball and is the perfect complimentary player for Nellie’s style of play. Amare needs the ball too much. He also likes Magette now that he’s jelled with the team. Also, Blake Griffin would be a very nice fit except being a youngster he won’t see the floor right away. The natives may be too restless to wait.

  • rob

    dddd

  • rapsfan

    Bosh and kapono to Detroit for Rip and Prince

  • RCG

    I really like Bosh for the W’s. But not for a deal including AB or ME. So, it probably isn’t feasible. Sheed would be okay but the salaries won’t match to achieve his actual value to the W’s. Sheed will go to a team that is desperate for an expiring contract. Our best bet is to sit tight or maybe get something out of Marcus Williams as a third party facilitator. Maybe we could get a pick back. Then do a trade up in the draft, moving picks and Bellinelli or Wright to take Griffin. It’s much more acceptable from a contract and long term win perspective. It’s true, however, that the best roster strategy might not help season ticket renewals this spring. Therein lies the coming trade mistake and the next round of mismanagement in Warriorland.

  • johnfree

    I get attached to players, so I’d hate to see those guys go, but Biedrens and Bosh would be a heck of an interesting front line. Super lightweight, but super-duper quick, one great shooter, … and one not.
    Either here or in Toronto, I would love to see that.

  • http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

    Nothing happening. Buy those $8 tickets, suckers!!!

  • Mike W.

    jsl @ 6: I could probably make a case that “rapier sharp” is redundant, but that might send you to a dictionary you seem not to have on hand, since it apparently doesn’t tell you that convoluted means twisted, which is an accurate description of your weak attempt (“stupid, stupid, stupid”) at analysis in #3. That’s my judgement.

    Mountainjim @ 11: Thanks, and couldn’t agree more.

  • http://deleted Mike W.

    jsl @ 30: You’ve omitted quite a few specifics in your flat statement that “big men absolutely hate Nelson.” Like one single name. Let’s see, I can think of two raw, green sticks who came out of college after one year who hate being told by Nelson, his staff — and in a well-publicized case, by the team captain — that they have a ton to learn. Their initials are BW and AR. On the other hand, I see two mature big men, Andris and Rony, who appear to like playing for big Nellie. Let’s not forget that in his day, when athletes were smaller, Nelson himself was a less-than-athletic big man. The idea that he hates playing them is preposterous, but you can’t let it go because it’s the entire porous foundation for your weak theories. That indeed is my judgement.

  • http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

    Mike W. is a big fat stinky prick. Republicans suck.

  • Scott T

    To Sonataiga —
    man you’re an idiot if you wouldn’t take Stephen Jackson, Biedrins, and Ellis for Bosh…seriously – that trade wold NEVER be offered by G.S. in the first place…Biedrins is a stud.. plain and simple..and he’s only 22. I’m from Toronto and believe me I want Bosh to stay, but to say that you wouldn’t want that trade to go through if it were on the table is just ridiculous…you clearly don’t watch or understand the game.

  • bosh’s realtor

    Bosh would stay if given the chance to compete, also we could offer an extra year and more money than anyone else, endorsements might be an issue but I think if he continues to grow it would all come to him, plus I think he would like playing for don nelson, with Sjax and company, and I think he might not leave the fans here because he saw such a different story in toronto. my .02 cents

  • Dan

    Ab will never get better than he is right now. Get Amare or preferably Bosh for AB and Mcgatter/Crawford and they warriors will be a solid contender. If your a real Warrior fan, you see the impact Turiaf has on the game and AB doesnt bring that, Bosh will. Amare will add offense and not much else, but hey we all know who the Coach is and unless your a rookie(Randolf, Marco, or Brandon) you dont have to play defense for Nelly-Ball.

  • Dirty

    Just news to appease the season ticket holders.

    Let’s face it, as long as Cohan, Rowell, and Nelly are in charge, we will forever suck.

  • Jason

    shut the f*ck up Cohan.

  • earl monroe

    This is all pie in the sky stuff, just like the warriors making overtures to Gilbert
    and Elton Brand, they want to act like big players when in reality management and
    Nelson are hicks. WE ARE REBUILDING FELLAS, and its not a problem either.
    Lets just clear out Jackson and Nelson, get a coach he will not have a problem playing the young bigs together for meaningful stretches , so they develop.

    Let’s stop pandering to Nelson’s desire for padding his win game totals.

  • D

    I know neither Bosh or Amare are going to happen…but if it did why complain about them being rent a players?…I would look at them as hefty expiring contracts next year…the year everyone is going to want expiring contracts trade or when they bolt (even though they aren’t coming)…we get some cap space to make a play for a second tier 2010 free agent (cuz no one’s coming here from the top tier), or we just have a better financial situation, where hopefully we could have gotten rid of more than one long term contract in the deal.

  • MountainJim

    On the rent a player thing, for one the Warriors can offer more money. Two, there would be sign and trade possibilities. Third, if this team was winning, which in the case of a Bosh/Biedrins/(name your forward here) front line would be a good bet, the Oracle would be rocking and there’d be some reason to think maybe a player would want to stick around, assuming the team didn’t cheap out on the deal. So the assumption Bosh would just leave after a year is weak, and even if it happened it wouldn’t be the end of the world.

  • blah

    The assumption that he would leave is weak? Wow.

    So you are saying it’s worth the gamble, but I beg to differ. Putting all your chips on one bet is a 50/50 gamble, and in the real world, a business world, those are horrible odds. Maybe a fun game for you.

    Most likely both those players will require Goose, if we loose him, we won’t be any better than we are with the new addition. IMO.

    As stated before, we don’t need those guys anyway.

    Further more, those teams aren’t going to trade either of those players. Especially Toronto.

  • blah

    BTW, how many great players have left the W’s? Ummm everyone one, at every opportunity.

  • FU Baron

    Here is THE REALISTIC 3 WAY TRADE in order for the warriors to actually land Amare. No breakdown or personal thoughts necessary as its pretty obvious why each team would do this (I can explain more if requested).

    Suns get

    Wally S. and his $13 mil expiring

    Eric Snow’s 7 mil expiring contract

    Branden Wright

    Cavs get

    Corey Maggette

    Warriors get

    Amare Stoudamire

  • earl monroe

    Here is the way this works, Rowell is full of it, so is Nelson.
    If they make a trade it will be short sided, and hurt the Warriors long term.
    Who ever they trade will become All-stars.
    Reality hurts

  • M.Squared

    Moving Biedrens for Amare is a huuuge mistake. Biedrens rebounds every night, plays D and soon will be making about half of what Stoudamire is going to get. Additionally- he is 22 and is getting better every year. Meanwhile- Amare is a malcontent, he rebounds when he feels like it, complains when he doesnt get the ball, complains whether he is playing the 4 or the 5 and has had a major sugery already. In 2 years – he will be the next Z.Randolph, talented big that doesnt D up and is way overpaid. Whoever signs him will be trying to dump his contract to clear cap for the next FA bonanza. The Suns aren’t taking Jack or Maggette as the centerpiece in any Amare deal, nor are they looking to aquire Ellis or Crawford- so this deal is not happening without Andris- which would be the worst trade since Webber for Googs in ’94.

  • http://cctimes ECJ

    DONT TRADE FOR BOSH!

    The last thing the W’s need is yet another thin, ultra-athletic yet undersized 4 who plays best when facing the basket. (We’re currently developing two of these players in Wright and Randolph)

    We need to keep our eye on the prize, which is a back to the basket post player, with size and toughness ALA Amare and Carlos Boozer. The W’s need to add some muscle, and Bosh has very little.

    Trade Magette and / or Crawford, Belinelli and or B Wright. Keep AB, Monta, and especially Randolph. It does no good to trade away your nucleus for players that could leave in a year or two. Deadline trades shold work to improve the nucleus of a REBULIDING team, not blow it up.

    Why don’t we trade Magette and B Wright for Boozer? The Jazz cant keep him and Milsapp, and the money works. Boozer won’t leave this summer, coming off an injury year. Pull the Trigger W’s!

    ECJ

  • OptimusPrime

    Bosh is a rare amazing talent. Hes one of the few players where you ask Toronto to name a price.

    Any and Everbody would be on the table for Bosh (only if GW can get him to sign a LT deal)

  • ACC

    Like some of the bloggers here, AB is a definite no no for trade to get Chris Bosh or even Amare Stoudamire. Nibble and sturdy big men are hard to find nowadays. What the W’s need to dump are their smaller players. They’ve got a bunch of them:

    Kelenna Azubuike
    Jamal crawford
    Stephen Jackson
    Corey Magette
    Monta Ellis
    CJ Watson
    Marco Belinelli
    Anthony Morrow

    While at the PF position they are quite stacked up too:

    Ronny Turiaf
    Brandan Wright
    Anthony Randolph
    Rob Kurz
    Jermeo Davidson

    From the guards and small forward section, I’d say trade Corey Magette and Jamal Crawford. W’s have younger players playing the same position in likes of KA and Marco Belinelli and both are cheaper.

    From the PF section, I’d say get Anthony Randolph off.

    So for trade purposes, get Anthony Randolph and add either CM or JC to get what the W’s want. Who knows maybe Anthony Randolph might turn up to be another Chris Bosh or Kevin Garnett in a couple of years.

    With this addition/subtraction players can have more playing time and less crowd in the 2 and 3 position.

    Starting Lineup:
    AB
    CB
    KA
    SJ
    ME

    Backups
    RT / Jermeo Davidson-C
    BW / Rob Kurz – PF
    AM – SF
    MB – SG
    CJW – PG

  • http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

    Nothing’s happening.
    Marcus is playing company shill again.
    Good man, easy sell.

    Dubs are just telling the league:

    “We’re idiots, you can have anyone if you’l only TALK TO US. Please, we’re desperate, pick up the phone. Why don’t you return our calls?!”

    Neither trade works with just Biedrins+Randolph for B. or S. And adding Belinelli or others doesn’t make it work, either. So the Dubs are either going to have to get into a multi-team deal or they’re going to have to figure out a way to move non-BYC players.

    No freakin way.

    All BS noise. Nothing coming of it.

    Guaranteed.

    Marcus Williams will be waived after he is not moved by the trading deadline. Wheels spinning………

  • ACC

    Or just stay put! Just get a new coach who is willing to play the young bigs and hope they turn out to be Chris Bosh or a Kevin Garnett.

    If I were the W’s just stay put and play with what you have. Anyway, its a lost season so might as well tank the season and play the young guns more.

  • al harrington

    MT2:
    Isn’t it about time to change that pic on your blog? at least change it to baron?

  • blah

    Blake Griffin would be a perfect compliment to Goose. Big body, can rebound, and play defense, can score without having plays called for him. Will be relatively cheap because rookies have caps.

    That is the move i’d like to see the W’s make this year. Should try to package a one of our smalls, with our lottery pick.

  • Jaysohn

    Bosh and Amare?? Not Happening. I wish it would but the Warriors don’t have the right pieces in return to swing it and even if they did they would be setting themselves up for having nothing in 2010 when it would be likely these guys would go elsewhere. I think the Warriors have to look at moving a couple of their wing players for a decent power forward. Its not going to be a superstar but a solid rebounder/defender or one who has upside to be that player. This team needs a Brandon Bass, David Lee or Milsap type power forward in the worse way to go along with either Randolph or Wright. I would use Crawford or Maggette along with either Wright or Randolph to secure that player and then hope we get lucky and finally draft a star big or point guard.

    PG – Belinelli/Watson
    SG – Ellis/Morrow
    SF – Jackson/Randolph
    PF – ???/Wright
    C – Beidrins/Turiaf

  • chris

    even if its in the offseason–ellis, randolph and (crawford, maggette or sjax) for calderon and bosh. Seems like its a fair deal for both sides, especially if Toronto knows that bosh is leaving. Thoughts?

  • geode

    Amare? NO!
    We don’t need a primadona, we need a grinder who will do the dirty work inside.
    How’s Hendricks doing down in the D-league? He’s a wide body and he looked tough.
    Maybe Milsap, Lee, or Bass would fit in.
    Boozer and Bosch are the only guys for whom I would consider giving up Ellis. They are just that good.

  • Ron Redwoods

    Biedrins “won’t get any better”? He’s 22 yr old! He’s already the best C GSW has had in over 20 years and he’s signed for 5 1/2 more years at a good price.

    Wright, Randolph are also very young and also will be around awhile. If Nellie is gone…no problem. He’s like a stubborn child at times and wastes a lot of opportunity chasing his own agendas. If we swap one of our veteran G’s…fine if it’s a decent deal.

    I have SEEN decades of “quick Fix” schemes that looked dumb at first and turned out worse. I’ve seen GSW fail to develop GOOD prospects and think the greass is greener. A manic Yo-Yo plan, freaking out over salary…then impulsively getting a guy who costs MORE,then dumping him at a loss because he’s…expensive….how is that sensible?

    Sure..it’s tempting to grab a star in his prime and skip the process of FINDING talent and developing that talent WELL, and promptly. Here…it’s a sucker deal because Bosh or Amare WILL go the UFA route. GSW is going to be reluctant to go deep into Lux Tax,and if they did…and overpaid…they DON’T get better by much if they gave a huge talent package and are in Cap Hell. More likely..they’d end up the suckers,as Bosh (or Amare) leaves.

  • goingforthemoney.com

    Biedrens and Ellis for Amare or Bosh in a heart-beat! If you don’t know then you just don’t know. You gotta have a star or two to get to the next level. Besides I like Ronny better than Biedrins. Ronny can develop his offensive game and actually has some tools to work with not to mention that fact that he plays some hell-a-fied defense. Go-W’s!

  • jsl

    RoadOrange @29: Perhaps the dumbest post ever. Criticism without any support: How worthless can you be?

    Let’s look at your lunatic statements.

    First, it’s wrong to base a player’s value on how he’s performed recently? Pray tell why? Has he been injured? Is there something holding him back? Is he simply a microfracture success story? C’mon! You must be able to say something substantive.

    Second, BYC rules are second-nature to you? Great! Then share with us how you believe such a trade involving Goose or Monta could be made. Another example of “big hat, no cattle” I guess. Back up your wild claims (if you can, that is). Otherwise, please STFU.)

    Finally, Amare will be better than AR in two years? Wanna bet? Got any basis to support your argument? Been watching AR lately? Catch him, last night, at the five? 10 RBs in 14 minutes? How’s Amare doing? How’s his D? Has he got the speed you like?

    Looks like my prophesy is coming true more quickly that I’d thought.

    All in all, an “F-” grade. Tell Mommy it’s no milk and cookies for you tonight. In short, Stupiest, stupidest, stupidest. Ever.

  • darkknight01

    did the W’s just trade Randolph, Maggete and Turiaf for Bosh?

    If so….thats a good deal. Good to get Maggette and Turiafs contracts out of here.

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