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		<title>By: Chris Cohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eff off felt.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Oregonwarriorfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oregonwarriorfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  I thought #23 had excellent insight but check out #28.  Folks, that&#039;s not written by your typical sports fan; Steve&#039;s a cut above--a BIG cut above.  And #31, &#039;Chris Cohan&#039; I agree no way a mere mortal competes with that, your regression to a wonderfully childish comment was priceless.  Steve you are a valuable contributor and in my opinion spot on.  Let&#039;s see more of you here, OK?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I thought #23 had excellent insight but check out #28.  Folks, that&#8217;s not written by your typical sports fan; Steve&#8217;s a cut above&#8211;a BIG cut above.  And #31, &#8216;Chris Cohan&#8217; I agree no way a mere mortal competes with that, your regression to a wonderfully childish comment was priceless.  Steve you are a valuable contributor and in my opinion spot on.  Let&#8217;s see more of you here, OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No guarantees with tonight&#039;s game either Warrior fans...............we could end up losing to this Minnesota team.

A much improved Randy Foye, Mike Miller, no Al Jefferson will help, but they have some hustle, tough players like Craig Smith and Kevin Love, these guys are the types of players that give the Warriors problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No guarantees with tonight&#8217;s game either Warrior fans&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;we could end up losing to this Minnesota team.</p>
<p>A much improved Randy Foye, Mike Miller, no Al Jefferson will help, but they have some hustle, tough players like Craig Smith and Kevin Love, these guys are the types of players that give the Warriors problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve is a doo doo head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve is a doo doo head.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you still write a blog? Once a week isn&#039;t really a blog, is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you still write a blog? Once a week isn&#8217;t really a blog, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, I meant to say Terry Porter, not Kevin Porter, in talking about Phoenix and their recently fired head coach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I meant to say Terry Porter, not Kevin Porter, in talking about Phoenix and their recently fired head coach.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to #24, maybe you&#039;ve been drinking too many of those $8 beers given the fact you consider Biedrins, Monta Ellis, and Anthony Randolph &quot;draft picks of no consequence&quot;. That&#039;s even leaving out  Brandon Wright and Marco Belinelli. All of these &quot;kids&quot; are 22 yrs old or younger and should have very good (or better) careers ahead of them. You want to take a look at a &quot;mediocre sports franchise&quot;, then let&#039;s hear your expert evaluation of the San Antonio Spurs BEFORE they drafted David Robinson. Funny how drafting a couple of good young players (Robinson, Tim Duncan) can make such a huge difference in both the perception and reality of a franchise. The point is mediocre can turn to great with a little luck and the right people at the top, and it can happen in a relatively short period of time. Sorry to spoil your party, but yes, the Don Nelson Warriors have always been a &quot;Great Time Out&quot;..........In response to #25, I&#039;m sure Jerry Buss shares your excitement over the competence of Phil Jackson, but seriously, how good was Jackson as coach of the Bulls whenever Jordan decided he wanted to play baseball? And how good was Jackson as coach of the Lakers after Shaq left, even with a player as good as Kobe still there? And how good was Jackson as coach of the Lakers (Part 2) until Memphis decided to contribute to the LA Lakers Charitable Foundation by donating Pao Gasol? Gregg Popovich? Yes, very good coach, but that Tim Duncan guy kinda helps. While current Warriors management obviously supports Don Nelson and what he&#039;s trying to do here in the Bay Area, you might want to ask Popovich what he thinks of Nelson. Remember, Popovich was an assistant coach for Nelson on the Run TMC Warriors, and given his success with the Spurs, I&#039;d say his time here under Nelson was time well spent on his part. Whether you&#039;re talking Phil Jackson, Gregg Popovich, or even Pat Riley, they all enjoyed the good fortune of being able to coach Hall of Fame players over the course of their respective careers. There were ZERO championships won without the likes of Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, Jabbar, or Duncan running up and down the court. Nelson, on the other hand, has won 1300 games the &quot;hard way&quot;, which in some ways, makes his success even more noteworthy and admirable. As to your point about the Lakers, Jazz, and Rockets having injuries and still winning, those teams are all older and more experienced than the Warriors. Yes, they&#039;re all better than the Warriors this year, but I wouldn&#039;t bet the ranch that the Jazz and Rockets will be better than GSW over the next 3-5 years...........Look, I&#039;ve never met or talked to Don Nelson, so my personal feelings about him as coach and maybe even silent GM are based solely on results and what he&#039;s accomplished during his years in the Bay Area. This second stint saw him drastically change the makeup of the team halfway through the season via the trade with Indiana (Mullin made that trade after Nelson told him to get rid of Dunleavey and Murphy if at all possible), orchestrate the upset over Dallas, and then coach a team that started the following season 1-6 (Jackson suspended by the league for the first 7 games) to a 48 win season in the absurdly stacked Western Conference. This season has been impossible for any coach (yes, that includes Jackson and Popovich), what with the roster turnover from last season, injuries, and all the extreme youth on the team. Honestly, from a coaching standpoint, what more could you have hoped for over these last 3 years? This team MAXED OUT to win 90 games, and then has been highly competetive all this year while ranking 2nd in scoring. Heck, they even scored more points in a game this season (144) than any other team. Nelson&#039;s run-and-gun style often is criticized, yet Mike D&#039; Antoni was loved in Phoenix and now in NY, and it wasn&#039;t until they ditched Kevin Porter and resumed running in Phoenix that the Suns started playing better and are now a rising threat in the West. For me it&#039;s all about results and Don Nelson has done more with less than any other coach in Warriors&#039; history (even Al Attles had Rick Barry). And in my opinion, the best is yet to come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to #24, maybe you&#8217;ve been drinking too many of those $8 beers given the fact you consider Biedrins, Monta Ellis, and Anthony Randolph &#8220;draft picks of no consequence&#8221;. That&#8217;s even leaving out  Brandon Wright and Marco Belinelli. All of these &#8220;kids&#8221; are 22 yrs old or younger and should have very good (or better) careers ahead of them. You want to take a look at a &#8220;mediocre sports franchise&#8221;, then let&#8217;s hear your expert evaluation of the San Antonio Spurs BEFORE they drafted David Robinson. Funny how drafting a couple of good young players (Robinson, Tim Duncan) can make such a huge difference in both the perception and reality of a franchise. The point is mediocre can turn to great with a little luck and the right people at the top, and it can happen in a relatively short period of time. Sorry to spoil your party, but yes, the Don Nelson Warriors have always been a &#8220;Great Time Out&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.In response to #25, I&#8217;m sure Jerry Buss shares your excitement over the competence of Phil Jackson, but seriously, how good was Jackson as coach of the Bulls whenever Jordan decided he wanted to play baseball? And how good was Jackson as coach of the Lakers after Shaq left, even with a player as good as Kobe still there? And how good was Jackson as coach of the Lakers (Part 2) until Memphis decided to contribute to the LA Lakers Charitable Foundation by donating Pao Gasol? Gregg Popovich? Yes, very good coach, but that Tim Duncan guy kinda helps. While current Warriors management obviously supports Don Nelson and what he&#8217;s trying to do here in the Bay Area, you might want to ask Popovich what he thinks of Nelson. Remember, Popovich was an assistant coach for Nelson on the Run TMC Warriors, and given his success with the Spurs, I&#8217;d say his time here under Nelson was time well spent on his part. Whether you&#8217;re talking Phil Jackson, Gregg Popovich, or even Pat Riley, they all enjoyed the good fortune of being able to coach Hall of Fame players over the course of their respective careers. There were ZERO championships won without the likes of Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, Jabbar, or Duncan running up and down the court. Nelson, on the other hand, has won 1300 games the &#8220;hard way&#8221;, which in some ways, makes his success even more noteworthy and admirable. As to your point about the Lakers, Jazz, and Rockets having injuries and still winning, those teams are all older and more experienced than the Warriors. Yes, they&#8217;re all better than the Warriors this year, but I wouldn&#8217;t bet the ranch that the Jazz and Rockets will be better than GSW over the next 3-5 years&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Look, I&#8217;ve never met or talked to Don Nelson, so my personal feelings about him as coach and maybe even silent GM are based solely on results and what he&#8217;s accomplished during his years in the Bay Area. This second stint saw him drastically change the makeup of the team halfway through the season via the trade with Indiana (Mullin made that trade after Nelson told him to get rid of Dunleavey and Murphy if at all possible), orchestrate the upset over Dallas, and then coach a team that started the following season 1-6 (Jackson suspended by the league for the first 7 games) to a 48 win season in the absurdly stacked Western Conference. This season has been impossible for any coach (yes, that includes Jackson and Popovich), what with the roster turnover from last season, injuries, and all the extreme youth on the team. Honestly, from a coaching standpoint, what more could you have hoped for over these last 3 years? This team MAXED OUT to win 90 games, and then has been highly competetive all this year while ranking 2nd in scoring. Heck, they even scored more points in a game this season (144) than any other team. Nelson&#8217;s run-and-gun style often is criticized, yet Mike D&#8217; Antoni was loved in Phoenix and now in NY, and it wasn&#8217;t until they ditched Kevin Porter and resumed running in Phoenix that the Suns started playing better and are now a rising threat in the West. For me it&#8217;s all about results and Don Nelson has done more with less than any other coach in Warriors&#8217; history (even Al Attles had Rick Barry). And in my opinion, the best is yet to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the 3 game stretch with nothing but winnable games agains OKC, LAC, and CHA, we went 1-2,........in a stretch where we should have gone 3-0, we went 1-2.

Guys, that&#039;s terrible........we have now lost to OKC, Memphis twice, Sacramento, LAC and Charlotte on the season,.........anything positive to take from that?.......that is absolutely dispicable.....what hope is there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 3 game stretch with nothing but winnable games agains OKC, LAC, and CHA, we went 1-2,&#8230;&#8230;..in a stretch where we should have gone 3-0, we went 1-2.</p>
<p>Guys, that&#8217;s terrible&#8230;&#8230;..we have now lost to OKC, Memphis twice, Sacramento, LAC and Charlotte on the season,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;anything positive to take from that?&#8230;&#8230;.that is absolutely dispicable&#8230;..what hope is there?</p>
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		<title>By: NotaNelsonfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotaNelsonfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#23
In all due respect, I agree with some of your comments, but you have to understand, that a lot of the comments are made due to fustration, and uncertainty.

Think about the Bay Area:
5 Super Bowls by the 49ers.  Great owner at the time Eddie D., Walsh!!  Everyone happy.
Now we know what happened when York took over,and granted the salary cap.  Fustration!!!  49er fans see the Steelers win in the 70&#039;s as well, and seen what they have accomplished after that as well.
 We also see Dallas go from Champs to chumps, but have been competitive in the past years.
So we expect to be competitive this year or Mike will begin to hear it!

Giants!  Shit, We were lucky to see them in the World Series against the A&#039;s.  So i&#039;m sure in the Giants blog you will hear fustration.

Finally our W&#039;s.  At least I remember (A Little)when Attles coached us to our championship.  And that was years ago!
Trust me it kills W&#039;s fans to see our enemies the Lakers win championships during the Magic Era, Shaq and Kobe era too.  And knowing they have a great shot at winning it all this year as well!  But for the Lakers they have a smart front office, and get great players.

We at least me don&#039;t have trust in our Mgt. leading us in the right direction, and it is fustrating.
Seems like as a W fan we are always saying the same damn thing:  &quot;Wait till next year&quot;., Only to be let down again the following year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23<br />
In all due respect, I agree with some of your comments, but you have to understand, that a lot of the comments are made due to fustration, and uncertainty.</p>
<p>Think about the Bay Area:<br />
5 Super Bowls by the 49ers.  Great owner at the time Eddie D., Walsh!!  Everyone happy.<br />
Now we know what happened when York took over,and granted the salary cap.  Fustration!!!  49er fans see the Steelers win in the 70&#8242;s as well, and seen what they have accomplished after that as well.<br />
 We also see Dallas go from Champs to chumps, but have been competitive in the past years.<br />
So we expect to be competitive this year or Mike will begin to hear it!</p>
<p>Giants!  Shit, We were lucky to see them in the World Series against the A&#8217;s.  So i&#8217;m sure in the Giants blog you will hear fustration.</p>
<p>Finally our W&#8217;s.  At least I remember (A Little)when Attles coached us to our championship.  And that was years ago!<br />
Trust me it kills W&#8217;s fans to see our enemies the Lakers win championships during the Magic Era, Shaq and Kobe era too.  And knowing they have a great shot at winning it all this year as well!  But for the Lakers they have a smart front office, and get great players.</p>
<p>We at least me don&#8217;t have trust in our Mgt. leading us in the right direction, and it is fustrating.<br />
Seems like as a W fan we are always saying the same damn thing:  &#8220;Wait till next year&#8221;., Only to be let down again the following year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess we can hold out hope for next year and blame this year on the Monta accident, the injuries to our young players like B. Wright, the constant bickering between Coach and Al Harrington, the love hate relationship between A. Randolph and Coach, the constant fluctuating of line-ups because of injuries and the overall shock from losing the head of our offensive attack in BD.

But I ask Warrior fans this...........Where is the light at the end of the tunnel?  What makes us believe that come next year, all of a sudden, Anthony Randolph will be ready to fill the starting role at 4 or 3 or whatever and play 38 minutes a game, or Monta will be back in basketball shape, or B. Wright will stay healthy or we will find an answer to our low post defense and rebounding problems, or we will come up with a plan for our backcourt players&#039; rotations, since we have a lot of backcourt players.

We are a young team with talented young players.  But I really feel as if this is more of an organizational issue.  Ownership really respects Don Nelson, they think he is the &quot;All Knowing Wise Man of Basketball.&quot;  They felt that way in his initial stint with the team in the 90&#039;s and they feel that way now.

Could you imagine what ownership would think of guys like Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich if they respect this Nelso so much, a guy who has never won a Championship?  Ownership would probably fall all over themselves for Jackson and Popovich, but they are already doing that for Nelson, unjustified in my opinio, he has done nothing to deserve that faith.  1 playoff appearance in 3 years is not much to get excited about when other teams that make the playoffs year in and year out.

Warrior ownership has put the entire keys to the franchise in the lap of a 70 year old has been.  They trust that he is the future and the present.

I&#039;d like to hang my hat on the fact that I think Anthony Randolph, if given the playing time, could be as good as Hakeem Warrick next year or a front line of B. Wright, Biedrins and Randolph is possible for 2009-2010, or Marco Belinelli will emerge as our top backcourt player and facilitate this young offense.

Just based on the track record of ownership and Nelson and the general feel around the organziation, I just don&#039;t see that happening.

I would like to be positive and say, &quot;We will be better next year, we had some bad breaks this year.&quot;

But a lot of teams had bad breaks, the Lakers have been without Bynum for most of the year, the Jazz without Boozer, the Rockets without McGrady.  The difference between those teams and us is obvious, I don&#039;t have to get into it. We simply do not have the talent to match up night in and night out against any NBA team, good or bad.

I just don&#039;t see that changing next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we can hold out hope for next year and blame this year on the Monta accident, the injuries to our young players like B. Wright, the constant bickering between Coach and Al Harrington, the love hate relationship between A. Randolph and Coach, the constant fluctuating of line-ups because of injuries and the overall shock from losing the head of our offensive attack in BD.</p>
<p>But I ask Warrior fans this&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Where is the light at the end of the tunnel?  What makes us believe that come next year, all of a sudden, Anthony Randolph will be ready to fill the starting role at 4 or 3 or whatever and play 38 minutes a game, or Monta will be back in basketball shape, or B. Wright will stay healthy or we will find an answer to our low post defense and rebounding problems, or we will come up with a plan for our backcourt players&#8217; rotations, since we have a lot of backcourt players.</p>
<p>We are a young team with talented young players.  But I really feel as if this is more of an organizational issue.  Ownership really respects Don Nelson, they think he is the &#8220;All Knowing Wise Man of Basketball.&#8221;  They felt that way in his initial stint with the team in the 90&#8242;s and they feel that way now.</p>
<p>Could you imagine what ownership would think of guys like Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich if they respect this Nelso so much, a guy who has never won a Championship?  Ownership would probably fall all over themselves for Jackson and Popovich, but they are already doing that for Nelson, unjustified in my opinio, he has done nothing to deserve that faith.  1 playoff appearance in 3 years is not much to get excited about when other teams that make the playoffs year in and year out.</p>
<p>Warrior ownership has put the entire keys to the franchise in the lap of a 70 year old has been.  They trust that he is the future and the present.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hang my hat on the fact that I think Anthony Randolph, if given the playing time, could be as good as Hakeem Warrick next year or a front line of B. Wright, Biedrins and Randolph is possible for 2009-2010, or Marco Belinelli will emerge as our top backcourt player and facilitate this young offense.</p>
<p>Just based on the track record of ownership and Nelson and the general feel around the organziation, I just don&#8217;t see that happening.</p>
<p>I would like to be positive and say, &#8220;We will be better next year, we had some bad breaks this year.&#8221;</p>
<p>But a lot of teams had bad breaks, the Lakers have been without Bynum for most of the year, the Jazz without Boozer, the Rockets without McGrady.  The difference between those teams and us is obvious, I don&#8217;t have to get into it. We simply do not have the talent to match up night in and night out against any NBA team, good or bad.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see that changing next year.</p>
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