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Monta Ellis – Stay or Go?

The Warriors are going to take inventory this offseason, see what moves they need to make and how they can get better. Over the next few weeks, we are going to do some evaluating ourselves. Here is your chance to give them your opinion (yes, they do read this blog). I will make the best case I can as to why a player should stay or go this offseason. Then you sound off. He’s the hot topic right now so …


Thanks due to Tony.psd for the hot graphic


THE CASE FOR MONTA ELLIS TO STAY


When the Warriors drafted Ellis with the No. 40 pick in the 2005 NBA draft, it no doubt was a special coup. Ellis is a superior athletic with a knack for scoring and a built-in swagger. If he goes, he could join Gilbert Arenas as the best Warrior to get away. Let’s not forget, last year, in his third season, Ellis averaged 20.2 points on 53.1 percent shooting. He played 81 games and averaged 31 minutes. Also, 5.0 rebounds and 3.9 assists ain’t bad either. That kind of production is hard to part with, especially for someone so young.
What’s more, Ellis’ development in those three years leads you to believe he is going to get even better. When he first came in, he couldn’t go left, all he could do consistently was get to the basket. Now he’s got a mid-range jumper, he knows how to get to the line, and his ability to make a play for others has improved (though still has a ways to go).
Not to mention, the Warriors need some kind of stability. Since J-Rich and Baron left, there hasn’t been an identifiable figure for the Warriors. Sure, fans love Jax. But he’s been around the league. He’s only been here for two years and two months and he’s winding down his career. Monta, with Anthony Randolph, could be the man in the Bay for years to come.

THE CASE FOR MONTA ELLIS TO GO
Since Nellie ball is the system the Warriors are employing, the question of what position Ellis plays is of the utmost importance. Nellie’s system needs a do-it-all point guard, and Monta is not that. Nellie’s system has no place for a high-scoring shooting guard (because the PG and the SF handles the ball the most), and Monta is that. So where does he fit? The answer is he doesn’t. That leaves the Warriors with four options:
* Conforming Nellie’s system. That means getting the right kind of point guard. That is going to be hard to find and bring in. Not only does it have to be a PG who can guard SGs, but they have to be decisively better at PG than Ellis, so much so there is no question who the PG is on the court.
* They would have to shuck Nellie’s system. They would have to give up on the small ball, mismatch-creating system runs and go with a system, where SG creates offense and they run plays for him and the others play off the SG (i.e., Houston, New Jersey, Lakers, Miami, etc). Monta would have to score a bunch to offset the mismatch of him guarding SGs.
* Monta develops into an OK point guard, not a true floor general but not a liability at PG. That would require Monta developing handles, court awareness, vision, a cerebral game, leadership skills, etc. Sounds like a lot of intangibles to grasp.
* Get rid of Ellis and get the kind of PG they need.
The latter of the four is the easiest, by far.
Ellis’ unhappiness is a factor. If the relationship is irreparable (between he and management, or between he and Nelson), moving him becomes a must. If Ellis gets to the point where he’s venting through the media, a la Al Harrington and Mickael Pietrus, that only lowers his trade value. It might behoove the Warriors to look at this thing from an objective lens and, if it can’t get better, get what they can for him before it gets worse.

THE REALITY
Ellis, I imagine, still has value on the market, even though he’s due $55 million over five years once this season is complete. Certainly, his value would be higher if he spent the last 19 games looking like the old Monta Ellis, but I still think they can get something good for Ellis, even if it means throwing in the first-rounder. His ankle is a concern, but I think teams will see that he is so young and he came off a serious injury. Plus everyone’s medical staff thinks they are top of the line, so it is possible they will feel like they know how to get Ellis 100 percent.
He is movable. However, the risk of moving him is high. If he does go, five years from now, he could be one of the biggest regrets in Warriors history.

So, what do you think? Stay or go?

Cast your vote here.

Marcus Thompson

  • OptimisPrime

    I cant wait to see the Warriors next year all healthy. They got a nice team. And you never know we may mess around and win the lottery. ala San Antonio. Remember they were hurt and ended up w/ Duncan.

  • http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

    Jackson sucks. Ditch him.

  • Dave

    Marcus, it doesn’t matter what we say, I don’t trust the current management (without Mullin) to make the right decision. Cohan and Nelson totally screwed up the Chris Webber situation, and it looks like history will repeat itself with these two bozos and Rowell trying to navigate this sinking ship. We don’t believe!

  • http://cctimes ECJ

    I agree with Prime (# 99).. When Kobe Bryant says that Monta is one of the best young talents in the league, and questions the Bay Area media and fans for not appreciating Monta’s talent.. That tells you what the best player in the NBA thinks about Monta Ellis.. He NEEDS to stay. He DID ruin the season this year, and he does have a bullcrap attitude that needs to go. He should not be mad at the organization for holding him responsible for his mistakes.

    On a different topic, “MAGIC” is a lunatic if he thinks that Anthony Randolph is not a “difference maker”. In fact, a “difference maker” is EXACTLY what Randolph is. Difference Makers change the game when they play. Randolph will be a star in this league. He will be better than Chris Bosh. Anyone who doubts that doesn’t understand how much an iron will contributes to greatness.
    Look at the all time greats in any game.. they were the best because they refused to lose.. no man has ever risen to “great” on talent alone (Tracy McGrady). However, many men who’ve been short on talent have made a mark in sports by their heart and determination alone (Dwight Clark, Joe Namith, Doug Flute etc). Randolph has both heart and talent..

    Fact is, Randolph did slip to 14 in the draft because he wasn’t NBA ready.. however he was also touted by many analysts as having the most upside of any player in the draft. We see that upside now.. he has a lot to learn, and he still has to grow into his body. However, his intangibles are far superior to the players who were drafted above him. I believe that Randolph has the most star potential of any player on the team. Yes, he’s turned the ball over a lot this year.. but his confidence is improving, and he will settle in over the next couple of seasons and those problems will subside. Randolph is a star.

    “Magic”, thanks for your profound wisdom as a basketball fan who “knows the NBA”, but citing your father as a source to support your position on Randolph is not persuasive. Also, I’m having trouble figuring out how you’ve managed to watch “every single” Warriors game for the past 10 years while claiming to be a Laker fan. Tivo hasn’t been around for 10 years pal. Even if you have managed this feat.. any self respecting Warriors fan (or Lakers fan for that matter) would not claim allegiance to both.. so either way, “Magic” is dismissed.

    ECJ

  • Teresa

    Stay for one more year. I’d like to see him return to form if possible.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/03/10/monta-ellis-stay-or-go/ FANFORLIFE8

    stay fire nelson hire avery or stan van gundy get baron back for crawford/wright/draft pick/maybe don nelson lol

  • “Magic”

    “His Intagibles are Far Superior tham the players drafted above him.”

    You are fucking out of your mind “ECJ”……you should be shot.

    Do you remember when Derrick Rose lit us up for 19 points in the 4th quarter at the Oracle and led his Bulls team to a win? How about Kevin Love and Brook Lopez coming from proven college programs that stress nothing but intangibles…….O.J. Mayo, Westbrook all from strong PAC 10 programs that groom their players and teach them the intangibles.

    “Far Superior?” …….you really are reaching.

    I’d rather have Derrick Rose anyday, he knows how to lead his team to a victory in the 4th quarter when it counts.

  • Ycrem

    Monta should stay, why the heck are people saying for him to go. He is the future of the warriors, we don’t need to pull another Gilbert Arenas and let a good basketball player get away come on! All we need is just a few more pieces to fit our type of basketball and we will be back in the playoffs.

  • Ycrem

    Derrick Rose would not fit well in our system of basketball. I don’t think he could pull it off when he doesn’t have a superstar on his team like he does now with Ben Gordon.

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