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Chris Mullin – Stay or Go?

It is only natural that we finish off this series with Chris Mullin, the Warriors executive vice president of basketball operations. I wrote today, as best I could considering the lack of willingness for anyone to talk on the record, I don’t think he’s coming back. From everything I’m told, it’s possible, but in the sense that it’s possible for the Warriors to reach the Finals next year. It would definitely take someone (Chris Cohan or Robert Rowell) stepping in and saying “we need to keep this guy” for Mullin to stay. The Nellie’s power would have to be figured out/diminished. Mullin would probably have to get comfortable with not having his guys next to him, or the Warriors would have to allow him to bring someone he trusts in. A lot would have to happen. The question for you is, should it? …


WHY CHRIS MULLIN SHOULD STAY?
He turned around the franchise. Period. He’s the only guy in the organization who has the credibility around the league to make things happen. His eye for talent, at the very least, is pretty good. He’s batting .800 when it comes to trades, which is the only way the Warriors are going to be able to improve the roster thanks to their financial commitments.
Perhaps the biggest reason: the Warriors are losing their recently attained reputation for being a player-friendly environment. The way players have left here of late, not to mention how Jamal Crawford is expected to leave, the Warriors need someone to make Golden State a desirable place again. One thing I will say about Mullin, one of his advantages from being a former player is that he understands how players think.

WHY CHRIS MULLIN SHOULD GO?
Chris Cohan isn’t going anywhere. Neither is Robert Rowell. Neither is Don Nelson. Keeping him around is like dragging out a bad relationship, hoping something will happen to make it like it used to be. For purposes of moving forward, let him go and let him move on.
Plus, this could be an opportunity to go get someone big time. They didn’t like the money he spent. They didn’t like some of his draft picks. They didn’t like his communication.

Cast your vote right here.

Marcus Thompson

  • Marcus Thompson

    TradeJackson,

    It goes without saying the Warriors would have to make some changes to lure someone. But if they are committed, I imagine they’d interest some. Solid fan base. Exciting young talent. Nice market. Cohan spends money on players and could be talked into paying the tax if necessary, I’ve heard. This could be a desireable spot

  • pdxraider

    Stay, he should be given authority so he can treat Nellie like a little bitch so Nellie will leave without demoney!

  • danikil49

    These last few games show that without Jackson this team has a better(more positive atitude)and for some reason play defense a liitle better. I was not a Mullin fan a couple of years ago, but his recent acquisitions and deraft selections indicate he was learning.

    If the Warriors could get rid of Nelson , Rowell and Jackson I could really enjoy the games. Nelson is such a egotist that he ruins any good he does. He was toxic in the early 90′s and he is even more toxic now. Same with Jackson, notice how the team has responded since he has been out with his injury.The games have been a joy to watch, when Nellie wasn’t forcing small ball on us.

    Mr. Cohan, I know you will not seell or step down, but please do all(most) of us fans a favor and fire Rowell( or strip him of basketball decisions) and fire nelson( or make him GM so I don’t have to see him anymore). I guess we are stuck with Jackson because of the stupid extension he just signed. In any case I will not see another Warrior game in person until Nelson, and jackson are gone.

    Keep Mullins.

  • Lufty455

    Why is Nelson and Rowell still here???? Haven’t they stolen enough money from us already? This team needs a facelift now. Cohan get rid of these jokers… Create a bond and trust between you and your staff.
    Start speaking up if your hand pick management does not do well or makes a mistake.
    Mullin is a very well respected individual throughout the basketball industry.
    He will leave soon and he will make another team better… Good luck Mullie!

  • Dave

    Stephen Jackson has played for some pretty good coaches throughout his career……………Rick Carlisle, Gregg Popovich……..it’s funny how he’s found a home here with Don Nelson, of all people.

    He hated everywhere he’s been, but he loves it here in the Bay Area……….amazing,…..absolutely amazing………how lucky are we that Stephen Jackson considers the Bay Area as his home?…….Most teams can say that about guys like Kobe Bryant and Brandon Roy……..we say that about Stephen Jackson……….lucky us, ..huh?

    Anyway, I thought I would comprise a list of the best players the Warriors have drafted over the last 10 years, in order. Now, this will included guys who were drafted and traded on draft day, so they may not have played 1 minute in a Warrior uniform…..but I am looking at the entire body of work so this will include draft day trades. Here is my list, from best to worst:

    1. Anfernee “Penny” Hardaway
    2. Gilbert Arenas
    3. Antawn Jamison
    4. Vince Carter
    5. Chris Webber
    6. Latrell Sprewell
    7. Monta Ellis
    8. Jason Richardson
    9. Andris Biedrins
    10. Anthony Randolph

    Penny, is, without question, the most talented out of all those players….if he played longer than what he did……..you would be putting his name up there with some of the best guards in the last 20 years. He made it to the Finals, he was a prolific scorer and a fantastic floor general. Injuries slowed him down…..otherwise, he would eat Monta Ellis for breakfast…………maybe not Gilbert…but he would eat Monta alive. So maybe you can flip flop Gilbert and “Penny” at # 1, you can go either way with that.

  • lefty1

    Mullin will probably be gone. Rowell should be the one gone, but won’t happen.

    Were all gonna have to just wait and see. Our young player did a good job these past few weeks. Lets hope mgt. see’s how well they did and make some serious roster adjustments to give us a stronger team next season.

  • jeremy

    I’d have gone a couple years deeper and added Mitch Richmond and Tim Hardaway to that list.And you can’t put AR on a list based on his potential.And you also can’t double dip guys that we made draft day deals involving and count both players. That’s silly.Thus P. Hardaway and Carter are gone and T. Hardaway and Mitch Richmond move to the top of the list and Chris Gatling takes AR’s place until he actually develops into the player many think he can be.

  • blah

    Losing Chris Mullin is worse than losing Baron Davis. Who wants to be part of a franchise with no loyalty? Hopefully Ellis since we’ve already got him, but Damn man, who’s gonna want to come here?

  • Dave

    It’s funny how the Nelson supporters seem to be the Mullin haters…………..I mean, what the hell has Nelson done for this franchise that’s so damn special?

    The Lakers and the Spurs make the playoffs every single god damn year. They win 50 games a season like their walking in the park on a Sunday afternoon…..no problem……..50 wins a season…..you can chalk that up in Summer League for teams like the Lakers and Spurs.

    Now, you guys are holding Don Nelson up like he’s Moses and he just parted the red sea.

    This guy has 1 playoff appearance to his name since returning and 2 winning seasons………big deal……whats so special about that…….If you were blacklisting Mullin in favor of names like Jerry West, Mitch Kuptchak, Phil Jackson, Gregg Popovich……then yeah…I understand…..but when you say, “Mullin didn’t turn it around. Nelson did.”

    What exactly do you mean, what has he “turned around?”

    We haven’t done shit since either of them have been here but you rather live and die with Nelson? A guy who has a track record of destroying the internal workings of many NBA franchises……..you guys would rather take your chance on that, huh?

  • DEANO

    Most of Mullin’s mistakes were at the beginning of his tenure. He learned from those mistakes. In a league of guaranteed contracts, he was able to miraculously reverse his mistakes and put together the hot new team in the NBA.

    But as soon as Mullin demonstrated his growth into a shrewd GM, and gained the trust of the players and fans, Rowell and Cohan started the process of taking him down. This is unbelieveable, and disgusting. The current miracle is that the current Warriors play so hard for such a dysfunctional franchise.

  • Purvis Short

    Who was our last all star player???
    We ae never going to win anything until we draft some talent. It takes a hall of famer and 2 all stars to make a great team.
    We have not had an all star for how many years??

  • Lufty455

    Hey Cohan are you looking at the majority of the your Warrior fans are saying on this blog… please read the fine print and do the right thing…. or you will be sitting in a empty arena with Nelson and Rowell wondering where have all the Warrior fans gone to… Don’t be surprise if half of the season ticket holders don’t re-up this year … Thats right it is all about the money, right!!!

  • Steve

    Dave, in regards to your #59, I’m neither a Mullin hater or a Nelson lover. I’m just a sports nut who follows all pro sports very closely, and especially the local yocals (Giants, Warriors, Sharks). The Giants organization has been run by incompetents both on and off the field since they moved to the west coast in 1958. It’s no coincidence they’ve never won a World Series in all that time. The Sharks Doug Wilson is a smart guy, and he made an excellent move in hiring Todd McLellan as their new coach this season. They have a good team, but I’m not convinced they’re going to win the Stanley Cup this year. And then we have the Warriors. Say what you want about Don Nelson, but the ONLY time the Warriors have been worth watching over the last 35 years (save their NBA championship season of ’75) has been when Nelson has run the team. He’s a tough coach but I like that style. Webber wasn’t tough enough to handle Nelson’s coaching methods, but Anthony Randolph was, and look how that kid has grown as both a player and person since earlier this season. The first time around Nelson drafted players like Hardaway and Richmond, and found Sarunas M. in Lithuania. He found Dirk Nowitzki for Dallas. He knows talent and he knows the NBA. He’s an innovater and a winner. He won championships as a player, and learned the ropes under one of the greatest basketball minds ever, Red Auerbach. His Bucks of the ’80′s had the 3rd highest winning percentage of that decade, behind only the Lakers and Celtics. The Lakers and Celtics are also the reasons Nelson never won a title with Milwaukee. After that he’s taken on nothing but NBA reclamation projects, which is why he’s lost more games than the other so-called great coaches. I’m sorry, but Mullin had the Warriors doing their usual going-nowhere-fast routine until Nelson returned 3 years ago. And who’s been calling almost all of the shots since then? If Nelson’s career is any indicator, Nelson has. And I like what has happened with GSW from then till now. There’s no way anyone could realistically evaluate this TEAM this past season because of injuries and youth, but individual player evaluations could definitely be made, and I like a lot of the talent on this team. More changes have to be made, and if done correctly, with some good luck thrown in, the Warriors will be exciting, and they will be winners. Nelson was great in Milwaukee, the Warriors were so intoxicating during his first tenure with GSW they had a nickname (Run TMC), and he left Dallas in great shape to make repeated playoff runs. Given all this vs what Mullin has accomplished post-playing days, why would I vote Mullin over Nelson? I don’t hate one and love the other, I’m just a fan who wants to watch exciting NBA basketball, and Nelson produces that wherever he goes. And these morons who say Nelson’s run-and-gun style can’t win championships? The Lakers weren’t dubbed “Showtime” because they played halfcourt and won games 82-80. They ran, and just kept running. Even Paul Westhead, who’s a run-and-gun maniac coached the Lakers to a title. If your players are good enough in the system you run as a coach, you’ll win, AND win big if your players are REALLY good. Who knows whether or not the Warriors can put together that kind of talent, but if they can Nelson is easily a good enough coach to win a title. BTW, your comments about Utah and the Warriors on the other blog? The Warriors will have more wins than Utah next season. Ciao.

  • PJ

    Keep Mullin, I think there’s zero question in any fans mind whether to move or keep Mullin.

    Though I think it’s of equal importance we rid ourselves of Fitz.

    Yes I have league pass and yes it’s awful listening to other announcers just as bad or worse. (When watching a Clipper game I’ve had to actually turn off the volume because their announcers are so-so bad). But without Barnett, I just don’t see how Fitz could do anything right. Trade him plz.

  • Dave

    “Steve”………good response………you made reference to the greatest team ever assembled by mankind,……..the “Showtime” Lakers.

    You’re right…..with the right players and talent, any system can succeed with any coach.

    Those great Laker teams you mentioned had guys like Earvin “Magic” Johnson, Kareem, “Big Game” James Worthy, B. Scott, Michael Cooper, “Silk” Jamaal Wilkes……….those were some “legendary” players……..you’d have to wake up pretty early in the morning to find a cast better than that. Also, your boy, Paul Westhead and his young star from Michigan State, Earvin “Magic” Johnson, did not really get along by all accounts and Magic was happy to see him leave.

    Look at Doc Rivers, at the end of 2006-2007, people were calling for his head. Save for a miracle, Doc was about to be stripped of his MD title……because we all know Doc Rivers is actually a real doctor and MD, right?

    It was funny, because at the end of 2006-2007, the Golden State Warriors were flying high, fresh off a first round defeat of the 60 win 2006-2007 Dallas Mavericks and it was the Boston Celtics that were in shambles with Doc Rivers and Danny Ainge holding their nutsacks, not knowing if they were going to be around next season.

    Wow, how the tides can turn in such a short period.

    Why couldn’t we have made those types of moves at that time? Getting guys like Garnett? Getting guys like Pau Gasol? Why have we not been able to acquire those big name players that we see on other teams, players that light us up, game in and game out, every time they see us?

    I don’t think getting rid of Chris Mullin will help that cause.

    Remember, before Stephen Jackson came here, he never played for Don Nelson, so he had no idea what to expect. He never knew he was going to be Nelson’s favorite player. For all Stephen knew, it was just another stop on the Stephen Jackson “tour” that he has called his “career” for the past 8 or so years in this league. Mullin wanted Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington………..without that trade there is “0″ “We Believe” 2006-2007 playoff run……

    It is because Mullin orchestrated that deal and his presence was enough to make Indiana decision makers’ , Larry Bird and Donnie Walsh, happy to deal with a guy that they felt comfortable in dealing with…..it wasn’t because of Nelson.

    I don’t even think Bird and Walsh would have listened to an offer if “washed up,” “has been” Don Nelson was the GM and threw a proposal their way….I don’t believe they would have.

    Let’s face it, Don Nelson left Golden State in shambles the first time around……he blacklisted good NBA players like Tyrone Hill and Chris Webber. In his second stint, the blakclisted guys were JR, Pietrus, Harrington and Barnes………weren’t these guys at the fucking core of the 2006-2007 playoff run?

    I don’t know, say what you want, injuries, etc., but this season’s coaching has been terrible……..fun to watch or not, I like to watch a winning team.

    Sam Vincent was COY in 2006-2007, he had a good team with cornerstone’s Bosh and Calderon, good role players like Bargnani and Parker …………he starts off 8-10 in 2008-2009 and he’s fired……..2 years after winning Coach of the Year?

    Nelson gets a free pass????……Why, is he that special?

    Also, let’s just go back to the first point for a second “Steve” and please do not put Don Nelson and the Golden State Warriors in the same paragraph as the “Showtime” Lakers. We don’t have a PG like Magic, we don’t have role players like Cooper, we don’t have scorers like James Worthy……..so it goes back to your point, you need the right players for your system to work, no argument there………..but getting rid of Chris Mullin will put another GM in that role, inexperienced or experienced, who knows who it’s going to be, ..but I don’t know if we have someone lined up with the NBA experience and the regard around the league that I think Mullin has……….obviously you don’t think that way……..you think Mullin is overrated as a GM, Warrior fans kiss his ass, etc.

    That’s how you feel, this is how I feel, I don’t think it’s going to change. Also, desperation move or not, Mullin brought in your boy, Don Nelson. For as much as you love DN, you should praise all God that Mullin went after him and not another NCAA coach like Montgomery.

    Again, Nelson listened, because Mullin approached. Mullin has respect, he even had the respect of your boy Don Nelson, that’s why Don Nelson came back……….that’s the most ironic point about all of this back and forth.

  • Swear1

    STAY!!!! Mullin got us back into the playoffs, Nelson and Rowell got us right back out. ‘nough said.

  • Oregonwarriorfan

    Re Dave at #65: “getting rid of Mullin will put another GM in the role”… well yes, and his name will be Don Nelson and the coach will be Keith Smart. This would not surprise me at all, and it would be perfectly fine with me, too.

    And Steve your comments are spot-on, and Earl Monroe, it’s nice you remember how good Bill King was. There is some old video around of him doing a game and his talent is just staggering.

  • GS Smith

    Keep Mullin, get rid of that punk Rowell!!

  • Dave

    “Oregon”…………you have a team in your own backyard that has shown what drafting young talent and re-building an organization is all about……….the Blazers…………

    The ownership and management of your hometown Blazers is night and day compared to your Golden State Warriors………..funny how you have such a great example of how an organization should be run, right in your own backyard, with the Blazers……

    Yet you tout, Don Nelson, as a savior and Keith Smart as a successful coach……..

    I’ve read your ocmments in the past, you’ve read mine too, I’ve used the names: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, etc. in the past…….you’ve read my stuff before.

    I have to say your last post at # 67 is completely unparallelled intelligence and though wise, to your previous posts.

    You’ve made good suggesstion before, but your idea that Don Nelson and Keith Smart can win a Championship is absolutely retarded.

  • Dave

    Also “Oregon”………..funny how you pick the biggest douche bags on this blog to agree with……….”Steve” and “Earl Monroe” for god’s sakes………..

    You guys deserve each other.

  • oregonwarriorfan

    Dave: You are correct in observing how fine a team the Trailblazers have become; just a few years ago they were being laughed at as the ‘Jailblazers’ and had a 21-62 record. The key element to their success IMHO was the hiring of an exceptional general manager. Kevin Pritchard is awesome, acquiring high-character, high-ability, team chemistry players. It also didn’t hurt that the owner is the 5th richest man in the US, and gave Pritchard free rein to swing draft day deals. No surprize, a great organization begins at the top.

    Now how do the Warriors leapfrog them and the Lakers and Houston and Cleveland and San Antonio and a bunch of other teams to win the championship? I guess it’s OK to strive, but if I am dependent for my personal happiness on them getting there, I might not be happy for much of my limited time on this planet. No, my personal happiness basketball-wise I choose to link to ‘Was I entertained?’

    People think I’m nuts to enjoy being a Warrior fan instead of a Blazers fan and maybe they have a point, but even as good as the Blazers are, they may never be champions. You have to take some pleasure in the here-and-now or most likely you’re doomed.

  • Eric

    Mullin has made it comfortable for current and past players to improve their practice habits. I.E. BD has alot of respect for Mullin.

    They never gave him a fair shake! He put his head out there for Ellis silly accident and now somebody has to take the bullet for it!

    Whoever the next GM is the W’s will slowly be in the decline. Mully has a great talent at finding and viewing players. At least give him 1 full yr to prove with what he has built. And give him the chance to make another pick to turn this franchise around next yr

  • Steve

    Oregonwarriorfan, I enjoy reading your comments. I guess us high-intellect guys just kinda flock together, eh? :) Portland has a nice group of young players. I really like Brandon Roy. That said, I think the Warriors will give you plenty to brag about up there in Blazer country in the coming seasons. As for Dave, my folks taught me as a kid to never make fun of the handicapped, so I’ll refrain from any further comments. LOL Have a good one.

  • oregonwarriorfan

    Peace, everyone. It’s been fun reading the comments and contributing to this blog, differences of opinion are valuable and valid. Let’s also remember that these are just young men playing a game in ridiculous underwear.

    To Dave, Steve and all the rest of us loyal fans, have a nice off-season everyone!

  • Dave

    “Oregon and Steve”…………take care!

  • David

    Please Mullin stay. Rowell, please go.

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