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		<title>By: deano</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/06/10/want-odom/comment-page-1/#comment-21067</link>
		<dc:creator>deano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with those above who say pass on Odom, because we already have a good 4 in Randolph; and use our trade assets to acquire a veteran 1, because we currently have squat at that position. Kidd played well last season; so did Steve Nash and Andre Miller. Any of them would be great acquision, especially if we can dump Maggette and/or Crawford in the process. Nelson will cede floor control of the Warriors only to a point guard of that stature. We should still draft a point guard, for the future. You know that Nellie would never let a rookie run the team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with those above who say pass on Odom, because we already have a good 4 in Randolph; and use our trade assets to acquire a veteran 1, because we currently have squat at that position. Kidd played well last season; so did Steve Nash and Andre Miller. Any of them would be great acquision, especially if we can dump Maggette and/or Crawford in the process. Nelson will cede floor control of the Warriors only to a point guard of that stature. We should still draft a point guard, for the future. You know that Nellie would never let a rookie run the team.</p>
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		<title>By: MRFJG_SON</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRFJG_SON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks perry, although I&#039;m not quite sure you mean it, lol... I liked your breakdown of Jackson&#039;s offense but I don&#039;t agree with you on Odom being a #1 option. I think at best Odom is a 3rd scoring option. The only reason I say that is because of his inconsistent play and how sometimes he gets lost in the flow of the game. Plus the fact that he only wants to live near a beach (even though the bay area can provide him with one) and the fact that candy can affect his game play is a little questionable.

Obviously he is the prototypical nellie forward but I just don&#039;t see Odom puttng forth the effort day in and day out. Plus like someone already said if the Fake show wins he is gonna re-sign with em, probably not for the money he wants but he will re-sign.

I love Manu but he has a lot of miles on his body and don&#039;t think it would be the best thing to pay for a guy who is gonna break down in 2 years or so. Plus I think manu is more effective because a team has to deal with parker and duncan constantly which leaves manu in alot of one on one situations. Whereas here, I am not quite sure how he would fit into a nellie system. Maybe i&#039;m wrong but I don&#039;t think it would be the best move to make. Plus where are we going to get the money from to sign someone like him?

Perry your not as bad as I originally thought, although I still think you might be Fitz in disguise...lol..I will withhold judgement though until I come across some hard evidence...lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks perry, although I&#8217;m not quite sure you mean it, lol&#8230; I liked your breakdown of Jackson&#8217;s offense but I don&#8217;t agree with you on Odom being a #1 option. I think at best Odom is a 3rd scoring option. The only reason I say that is because of his inconsistent play and how sometimes he gets lost in the flow of the game. Plus the fact that he only wants to live near a beach (even though the bay area can provide him with one) and the fact that candy can affect his game play is a little questionable.</p>
<p>Obviously he is the prototypical nellie forward but I just don&#8217;t see Odom puttng forth the effort day in and day out. Plus like someone already said if the Fake show wins he is gonna re-sign with em, probably not for the money he wants but he will re-sign.</p>
<p>I love Manu but he has a lot of miles on his body and don&#8217;t think it would be the best thing to pay for a guy who is gonna break down in 2 years or so. Plus I think manu is more effective because a team has to deal with parker and duncan constantly which leaves manu in alot of one on one situations. Whereas here, I am not quite sure how he would fit into a nellie system. Maybe i&#8217;m wrong but I don&#8217;t think it would be the best move to make. Plus where are we going to get the money from to sign someone like him?</p>
<p>Perry your not as bad as I originally thought, although I still think you might be Fitz in disguise&#8230;lol..I will withhold judgement though until I come across some hard evidence&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/06/10/want-odom/comment-page-1/#comment-21065</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Warriors and class should never be in the same sentence&quot;...........love it &quot;MRFJG_SON&quot;,............ fucking love it........

You&#039;re absolutely right, &quot;MRFJG_SON&quot;,...........the black-listing, subsequent firing  of Chris Mullin and the way they dragged that whole fiasco out...... was probably one of the most low class moves in their franchise history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Warriors and class should never be in the same sentence&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..love it &#8220;MRFJG_SON&#8221;,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; fucking love it&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, &#8220;MRFJG_SON&#8221;,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..the black-listing, subsequent firing  of Chris Mullin and the way they dragged that whole fiasco out&#8230;&#8230; was probably one of the most low class moves in their franchise history.</p>
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		<title>By: Lufty455</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lufty455</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No chance of Odom going here for sure if the Lakers win the championship. Better luck next time Warriors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No chance of Odom going here for sure if the Lakers win the championship. Better luck next time Warriors.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ESPN Inside reporting that Manu Ginobilii is on the trading block........Washington is named as a possilbe destination........you have to imagine a deal like that woul probably include Antawn Jamison.

Why not jump in on the Ginobilli sweepstakes?.....One of the best offensive and most competitive players in the league.....if you don&#039;t believe me......just ask Kobe Bryant.

Manu is well-respected by Kobe Bryant.  Bryant calls him &quot;One of the most competitive players he&#039;s played against.&quot;...........Damon Stoudemire confirmed that Manu was one of the most competitive players in the league during his stint with San Antonio.

We all know what this Argentinian can do.......he would be absolutely fantastic for this team......

If we don&#039; get him, maybe we can jump in on a 3 way deal with Washington, San Antonio and us, ending up with Antawn, worst case scenario.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ESPN Inside reporting that Manu Ginobilii is on the trading block&#8230;&#8230;..Washington is named as a possilbe destination&#8230;&#8230;..you have to imagine a deal like that woul probably include Antawn Jamison.</p>
<p>Why not jump in on the Ginobilli sweepstakes?&#8230;..One of the best offensive and most competitive players in the league&#8230;..if you don&#8217;t believe me&#8230;&#8230;just ask Kobe Bryant.</p>
<p>Manu is well-respected by Kobe Bryant.  Bryant calls him &#8220;One of the most competitive players he&#8217;s played against.&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Damon Stoudemire confirmed that Manu was one of the most competitive players in the league during his stint with San Antonio.</p>
<p>We all know what this Argentinian can do&#8230;&#8230;.he would be absolutely fantastic for this team&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>If we don&#8217; get him, maybe we can jump in on a 3 way deal with Washington, San Antonio and us, ending up with Antawn, worst case scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s difficult to get a gauge of a player in a &quot;Phil Jackson&quot; system.

Phil uses players how he wants to use players.....similar to Nelson in that regard and only that regard.

Radmanovic, for example, ......we all know that Vladimir was primarily a stand still 3 point shooter....but we also know that he can run the floor pretty well and can get to the basket if he wants too.......

Phil used him in spot situations where he needed another perimeter shooter..........when he was hot...it was great.....when he was cold.....Phil verbally abused him.

Similar relationship that Nelson had with Al Harrington.  Nelson wanted Harrington to be a stand still 3 point shooter, that&#039;s it. ....but that suffocated his game and it caused dissention between the 2.  Then, he goes to New York and averages 25 ppg for the rest of the season.

If Phil Jackson wants you to play 17 minutes a game.......you play 17 minutes a game.

If Phil Jackson wants you to stand at the 3 point line and shoot open shots.......you stand at the 3 point line and shoot open shots.

If Phil Jackson wants you to defer to # 24 down the stretch......you defer to # 24 down the stretch.

I think Lamar can handle being the # 1 option on an average to good team..............I think he can average 21 ppg + if he is the # 1 option on a decent team.

Imagine Lamar Odom, Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson and Monta Ellis..........I think that would give us as much offensive fire power as the Denver Nuggets, but without the good coaching, decent defense and real &quot;go to&quot; option (Carmello Anthony).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s difficult to get a gauge of a player in a &#8220;Phil Jackson&#8221; system.</p>
<p>Phil uses players how he wants to use players&#8230;..similar to Nelson in that regard and only that regard.</p>
<p>Radmanovic, for example, &#8230;&#8230;we all know that Vladimir was primarily a stand still 3 point shooter&#8230;.but we also know that he can run the floor pretty well and can get to the basket if he wants too&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Phil used him in spot situations where he needed another perimeter shooter&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.when he was hot&#8230;it was great&#8230;..when he was cold&#8230;..Phil verbally abused him.</p>
<p>Similar relationship that Nelson had with Al Harrington.  Nelson wanted Harrington to be a stand still 3 point shooter, that&#8217;s it. &#8230;.but that suffocated his game and it caused dissention between the 2.  Then, he goes to New York and averages 25 ppg for the rest of the season.</p>
<p>If Phil Jackson wants you to play 17 minutes a game&#8230;&#8230;.you play 17 minutes a game.</p>
<p>If Phil Jackson wants you to stand at the 3 point line and shoot open shots&#8230;&#8230;.you stand at the 3 point line and shoot open shots.</p>
<p>If Phil Jackson wants you to defer to # 24 down the stretch&#8230;&#8230;you defer to # 24 down the stretch.</p>
<p>I think Lamar can handle being the # 1 option on an average to good team&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..I think he can average 21 ppg + if he is the # 1 option on a decent team.</p>
<p>Imagine Lamar Odom, Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson and Monta Ellis&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I think that would give us as much offensive fire power as the Denver Nuggets, but without the good coaching, decent defense and real &#8220;go to&#8221; option (Carmello Anthony).</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony Randolph is close to Lamar Odom as far as skill set, lean, slender body and athleticism is concerned........but he doesn&#039;t get to the basket and finish with both hands as well as Lamar.  Lamar gets all the way to the basket, Anthony, right now, is not as consistent in getting to the basket.

Both can handle the ball, I even think Lamar is a little bit better in handling than Anthony.......not much that Anthony has that Lamar does not.

Not saying we should pick him up, but I like Lamar&#039;s game a little more.......Anthony is more of an &quot;above the rim&quot; player obviouslly at this point in his career.

But don&#039;t forget, Lamar Odom of the L.A. Clippers and the Miami Heat as the # 1 offensive option, .... was a 22+ppg scorer and an All-Star......I don&#039;t if Anthony is there yet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony Randolph is close to Lamar Odom as far as skill set, lean, slender body and athleticism is concerned&#8230;&#8230;..but he doesn&#8217;t get to the basket and finish with both hands as well as Lamar.  Lamar gets all the way to the basket, Anthony, right now, is not as consistent in getting to the basket.</p>
<p>Both can handle the ball, I even think Lamar is a little bit better in handling than Anthony&#8230;&#8230;.not much that Anthony has that Lamar does not.</p>
<p>Not saying we should pick him up, but I like Lamar&#8217;s game a little more&#8230;&#8230;.Anthony is more of an &#8220;above the rim&#8221; player obviouslly at this point in his career.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t forget, Lamar Odom of the L.A. Clippers and the Miami Heat as the # 1 offensive option, &#8230;. was a 22+ppg scorer and an All-Star&#8230;&#8230;I don&#8217;t if Anthony is there yet!</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s already said he will never live away from the beach.  When did Oakland get itself a beach?  I looked on Google Earth, I didn&#039;t see one.  Maybe their software just hasn&#039;t been updated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s already said he will never live away from the beach.  When did Oakland get itself a beach?  I looked on Google Earth, I didn&#8217;t see one.  Maybe their software just hasn&#8217;t been updated.</p>
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		<title>By: MRFJG_SON</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRFJG_SON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Odom but like a couple of people have mentioned his is way to inconsistent for the money that he is going to be asking for. Plus I don&#039;t think we can bring him off the bench b/c we already have the best 6th man in the NBA, Corey (I gets my numbers ) Maggette...(Dripping with sarcasm)

hey if you talk to fitz everyone wants a guy who gets you 20 off the bench but it is funny how he never brings up the injury issue w/ maggs but he is always willing to bring it up with not re-signing Baron.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Odom but like a couple of people have mentioned his is way to inconsistent for the money that he is going to be asking for. Plus I don&#8217;t think we can bring him off the bench b/c we already have the best 6th man in the NBA, Corey (I gets my numbers ) Maggette&#8230;(Dripping with sarcasm)</p>
<p>hey if you talk to fitz everyone wants a guy who gets you 20 off the bench but it is funny how he never brings up the injury issue w/ maggs but he is always willing to bring it up with not re-signing Baron.</p>
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		<title>By: MRFJG_SON</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRFJG_SON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Bill(#4), we already dont have class as an organization and I don&#039;t think bringing in Howard would make us less classy... If anything he would just give us a younger scorer but Warriors and Class should never be in the same sentence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Bill(#4), we already dont have class as an organization and I don&#8217;t think bringing in Howard would make us less classy&#8230; If anything he would just give us a younger scorer but Warriors and Class should never be in the same sentence.</p>
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