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Cohan Cashing Out?

My colleague is reporting that Warriors owner Chris Cohan is considering dumping his 80 percent stake and turning the Warriors over to another suitor.
There has been rumors of him selling for years, but Tim Kawakami’s source convinced him this time is legitimate, which leads me to believe something is there. It certainly makes sense for Cohan. He’s got IRS troubles, loot is dancing out the door like Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Grey, and their predicted success on the court is at-best futuristic. Now might be the time to cut his losses. It may take a long time to get more than he could get right now.
While his departure may cause a parade in the streets, the change of ownership is no small deal. It could potentially set things back. A new owner could mean new president, and maybe even new general manager and coach. And all that could mean new roster, new direction on the court.
Is it best that everybody just calms down, be still and see where this current thing is going? Or do you want him to sell, even if it means starting completely over?

Marcus Thompson

  • Gary Sinota

    Think of it this way. If he does not sell, and based on the track record we do have to reference, what are the chances that thins would be any worse than a complete turnover of the whole Warriors franchise.

  • gnossos

    Whatever it means – just sell!

  • “The Ricker”

    Am I dreaming?

    No Flunkster?

    No TC Firehouse? (Fitzgerald)

    And most important, NO Rowell?

    Oh man I hope this happens….

  • dw

    Unfortunately ill believe it when I see it but this team is already being set back a few years with the power structure we have in place now. Nellie and RR need to have no ties with this organization, period. Even if the team is ‘set back’ a few years the fans won’t care because we will give the new group a chance to get things going. What happens when nellie walks away next year anyway?

  • Burke

    I like this team. I want to see where it’s going, what pieces will be added/subtracted. I could care less who owns the franchise right now — I don’t pay to see the owner. I pay to see the players and the coach. Whatever the previous/present mistakes ownership has made, this is an interesting team to follow, and I’d hate to see it blown up.

  • A’s in 2009

    Dirty Dancing was just on WE, hmm.. :P

  • JT

    PLPPPLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!

  • Kyle

    SELL

    Don’t think twice. Don’t over analyze. Just turn the team over to someone who can do better than 1 for 15.

    Please sell. Please.

    Larry Ellison – we need you.

  • “The Ricker”

    Uh oh, looks like the Warriors have another one trying to steer the conversation….(post 5)

  • the Seer

    Anything to get rid of him..His karma is terrible..Anyone would be better..The players hold the most value to any franchise..A new owner will not gut the team and lower the value of a team he just purchased..

    Just let Cohan sell as soon as possible..

  • commish

    From your lips to God’s ears is all I can say! Amen.

  • Oregonguy

    There are posters who are just paranoid about a ‘plant’ posting here (Re: #8). Can’t see how #5 was trying to steer the conversation, I think he made a valid observation; one that I hope provides some food for thought just in case a prospective buyer is cruising websites to take the pulse of fans.

    Oddly enough, I HOPE there are opinions being expressed in these forums–probably under pseudonyms–that show the actual thinking of the decision-makers. You know they will follow the responses, and who knows? maybe your comment is the one that causes them to do the right thing!

  • Mbj

    I hope this happens!

  • J Canseco

    I’ll buy it. Who do I make the check out to?

  • JustPuked

    SELL!

    This franchise has no future as a winner with Cohan as Owner.
    The ONLY good thing about Cohan’s tenure as owner is he never tried to move the team.
    I’ll take that risk to get a better Owner.

    SELL, SELL, SELL!!!

  • Larry Ellison

    I will own the GSW’s in by the end of 2011. We will keep the same base talent that we have now. I’m keeping Rowell too! He’s going to be the new Janitor. $8 an hour and no benefits.

  • Trevor

    Marcus,

    Have you ever met any of the four current minority owners? Do you have any guesses as to how they feel about Robert Rowell?

  • john

    He’s been an absolute failure as an owner. All sizzle(thunder!) and not steak. Anyone can be better. If you don’t think so, just look at Atlanta with possibly worse owners who have gotten their team in the playoffs two seasons in a row. Chris, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

  • MountainJim

    How can you even ask the question? I want him to sell, I want a new President, I want a new GM and I want a new coach. Those aren’t bad things to me. As for the roster, maybe someone new could come in and get to work on balancing it and maybe getting some defense.

  • ThinkTank

    Ticket renewals are at record lows. Fans are refusing to give Cohan their hard earned cash. One losing season and PR blunder after another means time to get out before it’s too late.

    Just remember if you buy a ticket to a game, you give Cohan a reason to stay. He’s been living off sucker fans for years. Time to watch him bleed cash from your couch. Vote with your wallet.

  • Justafan

    “Is it best that everybody just calms down, be still and see where this current thing is going? Or do you want him to sell, even if it means starting completely over?”………………….The VERY best thing that could Happen: Cohan SELLS………. we get a real NBA owner and build a team that plays d and contends, and if so I will become a STH again but until “BOYCOTT”

  • Justafan

    Sell Devil….. Sell!!

  • OptimusPrime

    Im with Burke. For the 1st time in a long time I like the team we have and would like to see where they go next year. We should be very interesting if we remain healthy. I dont want to see the team blown up setting us back 5 more years.

    Honestly I could care less about Cohan….

  • OptimusPrime

    I would only like to see him depending on who he sells too. I dont want another Mark Cuban. I think Larry Ellison would be 10X worse than Cuban. He would Micro manage the entire org.

    Say what you want about Cohan. I like his approach, write the checks and get the hell out of the way. If anything I think Cohan simply needs to hire the right people….Rowell is a joke.

  • jsl

    We can only hope.

    The biggest near-term benefit, though, may be that the FO should be reluctant to peel off core pieces for broken-down oldies or rent-a-year guys, since new owners would like to make those decisions themselves.

    If we can keep our core together — and that necessarily includes Goose, Monta, AR, Morrow, and Curry (and, I’d hope, BW and KA as well) — we’ll certainly improve this year and take an even bigger jump next. And newer, smarter owners will figure out ways to trade Jack and Maggette.

    Let’s hope it’s someone like Ellison. And that Rowell and his ilk don’t first try to take this team down with them.

  • OptimusPrime

    I would love to see Magette traded. KA is a cheaper/better alternative. I wouldnt trade Jax. He is the heart and soul of this team and played at an all-star level last year.

  • DDog

    My wish list:
    1. Cohan sells to someone that loves the NBA, with some management skill.
    2. New owner fires Rowell.
    3. New owner keeps Riley (on a trial basis) and tells him to keep most of the roster intact (Randolph, Biedrens, Ellis, Jackson, Curry, Wright, Turiaf, Morrow, Azabuike, maybe Watson or Law).
    4. Find a decent power forward via free agency or a trade (without gutting the roster or overpaying).
    5. Get rid of Nelson and bring in a coach that can live with the roster and teach them how to play defense.

    Try to build on the talent you’ve got without blowing everything up and starting from scratch (again).

    Too bad it’s probably a dream…

  • http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

    Jackson as an All Star?!?! … Rowell, I thought you were taking the weekend off?

    MTII, way to take a stand with Timmy on this one. Have the team plants called you yet to ask you to smear him like they did Mullin? Rusty at sfgate has been gotten to as he tries desperately to keep the team talking to him.

  • http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

    Yes, Larry Ellison’s micro-management scares me…

    Jesus. Optimus, please stick to selling the team merchandise.

  • itsagreattimeout

    Sell the team, keep the players.

  • OptimusPrime

    Wow..I didnt realize that I worked for the Warriors. I need to call them for my paycheck…lol

    Dude did you even watch Warrior games last year. Jax was the only thing that kept the team afloat. Next you are going to tell me that Crawford played excellent defense.

  • OptimusPrime

    S. JACKSON 08-09:
    PPG: 20.7
    RPG: 5.1
    APG: 6.5

    J. Johnson (AllStar) 08-09:
    PPG: 21.4
    RPG: 4.4
    APG: 5.8

  • Warrior Joseph

    This man cannot sell this team fast enough. Nellie is the best coach from three up (point, two guard, SF), but is a baffoon when it comes to coaching a PF, C or defense. Under Cohan we: traded Weber, Sprewell, Richmond, Arenas, and Baron Davis. One of them could have probably helped us, don’t you think? And we also traded for Speedy Claxton….twice! If I was a GM for any other team I would watch who the Warriors draft of value and wait a few years and fleece them. But I am not. I am a Warrior fan for better or worse, now and forever. I just don’t want to have to wait three more years; we deserve better, Monta deserves better.

  • Bluzman

    I find stuff like this hillarious. If you go to any teams blog (excluding whoever just won the championship)you will find the same lynching party wanting new ownership. Usually stating the same garbage about people that they have never even spoken with. All most of you people know are what sports writers pump your silly little heads full of. I have met Rowell. I am a 15 year season ticket holder and he use to wander through the stands pre game and talk to anyone that wanted to talk to him. He truely is a huge hoops fan, that was interesting, and interested, in what the fans thought. Because of all the heat that has been placed on him by critical fans and the media, I no longer see him wander through the crowds, but he stands, (thats right, stands) through every game watching the game and fan reactions to the game and other entertainment, undoubtably trying to find ways to make the experience better for the fans so that the team can sell more tickets. How evil!!! The Warriors have one of the highest number of season ticket holders in the NBA and in my opinion the most loyal and rabid fan base of just about any pro sports teams in the world, when you consider the teams record over the past 15 years. Any body with half a brain, could therefor conclude, that as a business man, Rowell has done an excellent job. I enjoy going to the games. Sure it is better when they win, but even if they have a run and get close, Oracle rocks and I have a good time. Pro basketball is a business. The Warriors make money. The management at most businesses are judged by bottom line profit. I say good job to the management, marketing and ticket sales team. Basketball operations, is a different story. It needs work. Let’s see what this season brings. I too, like the roster and I am anxious to wee what will be if the core can stay healthy. And finally, to all you conspiracy people, no, I don’t work for the Warriors. Don’t believe me, come by and say hi, section 107 row 4, on the aisle.

  • jsl

    Optimus: Jack was a regular Q4 black hole last year: he stopped moving; he stopped defending; he stopped passing; he shot without conscience — and he never recognized any of his many failings. (Tho Amare’s a bigger “me first” guy, Jack’s one of the real champs in that category.)

    Perhaps you noticed how many games we lost at the end — before Jack’s “injury” (two years in the making) allowed him to get outta town for the last month, and our young guys started putting things together once they got some consistent playing time.

    And he’s not just certain death — altho a good deal of the fault is the idiot coach who played this old guy 40+ minutes, running him into the ground — when he’s in the game in Q4, the team is painful to watch because he does just about everything wrong.

    BTW, 20 points a game? What was his shooting percentage? Must have been pretty good, huh?

  • dan

    The W’s must get lucky. They need a new owner and hope that the new owner will hire the right GM and personnel people. Eddie D. hired a legend named Bill Walsh. Mark Cuban inherited a loaded team from Nellie.
    Simply getting a new owner is not enough.

  • KennySeagle, Emperor of the North

    ur “colleague” kawakami is worlds biggest taker of sucker bait– a gulible fool…. hes been wrong SO MANY TIMEs its a wonder he still have a job.

    NE1 who believe tim kawakami without waiting/verifying/checking it out HAS ROCKS IN THERE HEAD.

    ANY QUESTIONS????

  • OptimusPrime

    Jsl,

    I dont see how you can call a guy that average almost 7 assists a game a black hole. If anything some of Jax passes were questionable. I wouldnt call that a black hole.

    I do agree that Nellie played Jax into the ground last year, but Nellie had no choice. Jax were our only option for most of the season.

  • OliverStone

    #26 Optimus, congratulations. You just summed up the Warriors problems when you said of Jackson “He is the heart and soul of this team”!!!!!!!

    7 assists while leading the league in TO’s, nice, you win!

  • OliverStone

    Further more, if Jackson doesn’t play out of his mind in February, he would’ve shot under 40%!!!!!

    Heart & soul in Nellie, Rowell& Optimus’ minds only!

  • Chris Cohan

    MY BALLS..FEEL LIKE THEY ARE ON FIRE!!!

  • http://deleted Dave

    Marcus, the franchise is going nowhere now, with current management in place, so a change in possibly the entire managing structure would be welcome. Sadly some of the current roster has a future, but I don’t trust the decision making now to put the team in the right direction, including Nelson.

  • Name

    I am willing to *LITERALLY* give my arm and a leg if they could make this happen asap.

    Hey Chris,
    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Thanks for nearly 15 years of losing. If you were trying to condition the W’s masses to learn how to be losers, your ownership example has succeeded.

    PS: Please take Todd Fuller with you.

  • OptimusPrime

    Just so Im clear you guys all feel that Jax had a bad year?? Im the only one in here that felt he played really well last year?

    S. JACKSON 08-09:
    PPG: 20.7
    RPG: 5.1
    APG: 6.5

    Does he make stupid plays sometimes? SURE. Does he get over emotional? SURE But to call the guy a blackhole that is sucking the team down is completely inaccurate. We must not have all been watchin the same team last year. Did you guys remember the Dunleavy years? I believe Jax good plays FAR outweigh his bad ones.

    I would like to see Jax get back into the defensive mind-set, but he clearly accepted a different role from Nellie last year and he more than rose to the occasion.

  • OliverStone

    John Wooden once said “Scoring 20 points taking 20 shots doesn’t impress me?” But it apparently impresses you Optimus!

    You like cherry picking stats, but why don’t you mention his shooting percentage, his turnovers, his technicals, his QUITTING ON HIS TEAM while he argues with he refs.

    Just to be clear, he’s a good player who had a good year. He’s just not the superstar that has been put on a pedestal by Rowell, then Nellie, now you.

    “It ain’t me” is good but egotistical & certainly not the heart & soul of a winning team!!

  • deano

    Sell. PLEASE sell.

  • AirplaneRider

    Anything TK says by definition is BS. He’s got to have the least credibility of any Bay Area journalist and should be writing for the Nationa Enquirer. His readers are just a bunch of catty bored house wives.

    Yeah, I think Cohan should sell the team to the Seatte investment group and move the Warriors up to Washington. It woud serve the fickle Bay Area fans right not to have a team. They don’t deserve one the way they behave like spoiled brats.

  • jim back from fishing

    My key memory from last year is seeing younger players lingering around until being yanked for a lapse while other players were allowed to play selfishly and stupidly. It was a 29 win team, how anyone can argue from stats when the games became so unbearable to watch: mistakes, selfishness, bizarre and callous coaching, youth riding the bench, players checking out early even to fan appreciation. It was truly not just a lost season but a collapse back into a losing team. I hope they rebound this year, show promise, I even like listening to Riley, but last year was horrendous. We went from an fun, competitive team that faded out to 48 wins to a badly managed, coached, assembled team without cap space. I thought TK’s articles were great throughout this debacle, and I hope he’s right about Cohn selling (and Rowell gone).

  • OptimusPrime

    Oliver,

    Jax played most of the season hurt. He has been one of our most durable players the past few years. He didnt finish last season, but who cares. The season was over and Nellie was giving the young guys playing time anyway.

    As far as tech’s I guess you would have hated for us to sign Rasheed Wallace also.

    20 pts on 20 shots is 50% from the field. That would be very good in the NBA. Kobe FG% is 45% and Jordan is 48%. Jax was at 41%….And NO Im not saying Jax are as good as them. Im just saying the guy’s FG% was not that horrible, especially considering that he had virtually no help for most of the season.

  • Steve

    Jim #48, after reading your comments it looks like you fell out of your boat while fishing and stayed under water without oxygen too long. Last year’s Warriors team, while heavily flawed due to youth and injuries, still distinguished themselves as competitive, entertaining, and gutsy for the vast majority of their 82 games. Competitive, he says? I’d say having a winning home record, and beating teams such as Boston, Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix, Utah (twice), New Orleans (twice), Denver and Portland (twice) would qualify as a competitive team. Entertaining, he says? I’d say finishing the season as one of the highest scoring teams in the NBA, and winning the majority of their home games would qualify as entertaining. Gutsy, he says? I’d say beating both New Orleans and Utah at the very end of the season with only 7 available players in uniform would qualify as gutsy. The Hornets and Jazz were healthy and desperately in need of wins for their respective playoff positioning, yet the Warriors beat them while shorthanded. So sorry if San Antonio beat them up on Fan Appreciation night for you, but that was the exception rather than the rule for the Warriors last year when they played at home. In fact, it’s the heart these players showed last year under trying circumstances that partially explains my optimism for their chances to win in the future. “Checking out early”? Hardly. How could “youth ride the bench” last season when, save 2 or 3 players, their entire friggen roster was made up of guys 25 or younger? Youth, my friend, ran up and down the court all season long, only “riding the bench” to either take a blow or to spectate while recovering from injuries. It’s amazing how many fans make things up in their obviously simple-minds when trying to justify their frustrations with the Warriors performance last season. And trust me, your delusional thoughts will only get worse if you continue to read the garbage that some of the local clown-journalists put out. Free agents don’t want to come here? LMAO How many of the lottery teams from last season have been associated with high profile players this offseason? When you win, when you’re a playoff team, when you’re a championship contender, the players will come. After the Warriors won 90 games in back-to-back seasons, guess what? Baron Davis wanted to stay, Pietrus wanted to stay, Barnes wanted to stay, Crawford wanted to stay, Jackson re-signed, along with Ellis and Biedrins, Turiaf chose the Warriors over the Lakers, Maggette was offered San Antonio’s MLE but came here instead, and just the other day C J Watson was quoted about how much he loved the organization, the coaching staff, the fans, etc., and that he wanted very much to remain a GSW. Thankgoodness that both Gilbert Arenas and Elton Brand didn’t accept offers to come here. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. They chose Washington and Philly for a number of reasons, but the biggest reason, without question, was either staying out (Arenas), or getting out (Brand), of the Western Conference. Hello!! The sky ain’t fallin’ and the Warriors remain headed in the right direction. Hell, as hyped up as the Portland Trail Blazers are as the “team of the future”, Hedo T. stiffed their advances in favor of Toronto. Toronto? You mean the team going nowhere fast, and about to head there even faster once Bosh skips town? LOL What would the local yocals be writing if Portland had instead been the Warriors? Gawd! This coming season the Warriors will ONCE AGAIN be competitive and entertaining. They’ll also probably win a lot more games, which hopefully will result in fewer fishing boat accidents. LOL For the sanity of everyone, let’s hope so.

  • MRFJG_SON

    Sorry steve, I appreciate your optimism but you do seem to have the rose colored glasses on a little tight. You are overlooking the fact that we have to OVERPAY any FA to come here at this point. PLus I wouldn’t say that re-signing Jack and getting Maggs were great siginings. The signing of those two pretty much locked up whatever cap space that we had to go and get another FA. Also i think your trying to put a lot more positive spin on the crawford situation then it actually was. Nellie alienated Crawford and I think Crawford, being the great pro that he was, just tried to put a positive spin on it to not cause as much drama and still be able to keep some of his options open with other teams.

    All I’m saying is this, you write as if the warriors won 45 games last year when they didn’t. I think they ended up with 29 wins and that should be nothing to praise. As a STH, I am not happy with that and want more from this team and this organization. I don’t just want to see exciting basketball, I want to see winning basketball and consistency. Your seem to be of the opinion that your happy with being competitive but really a lot of nights last year I knew going in the Dubs had no shot of winning. Yeah sure they had some close losses but should we all really be making that a selling point and be happy with that, I don’t think so. So i understand your opinion but I just think a lot of people are tired of having a losing team and want a team that competes for playoff positions and not just provideds exciting basketball.

    You seem to forget that in 15 years 1 playoff appearance and a follow up of a 48 win season. That is not enough to make people think that the warriors are going in the right direction, when the team that made the playoffs has essentially been blown up in favor of this current squad. I’m still a dubs fan but I am basically going to hope for the best and expect the worst until the FO makes winning a priority instead of just trying to sell tix and make it seem like we are a winning organization when we are not.

    Ohh and use the spacebar every once in a while to break up your paragraph. It’s kinda tedious to read when there are no breaks in your posting.

  • jim back from fishing

    “Last year’s Warriors team, while heavily flawed due to youth and injuries, still distinguished themselves as competitive, entertaining, and gutsy for the vast majority of their 82 games.” Steve, I also really disagree. After the previous years of credibility, I did not enjoy last year at all. And the Warriors always beat a few good teams and have had end runs even in the lean Dampier and/or Dunleavy years. I think your whole counter argument is very shallow, given the team I watched last year. And the whole youth “future” movement is a game of cards when a team acts the way the Warriors do (think letting the mid-level extension lapse in the 48 win season or letting go of JRich Pietrus, Barnes, Davis, Harrington go). I also suspect injuries would be more prevalent in an unorganized and rutterless team. So I’ll just stand by what I originally posted.

  • jim back from fishing

    Further Steve, did you see Bellinelli/Wright/Randoplh jerked out of games while Jackson, Crawford, Maggette pulled the same idiocies and non-defense game after game? And its not the loss to SA on Fan appreciation night but the players who didn’t show up that’s a real indication of the heart of this team. I really want to see things change and not have to be cheering for a poorly assembled team and a bizarro org. In the last post should be “rudderless.”

  • Perry

    Even the best teams improve their previous year’s win totals by 17 games max……..with the exception being the 2007-2008 Boston Celtics who made a tremendous turnaround following almost a complete rehaul of their entire roster.

    That being said, a 17 game win improvement in 2009-2010 for the Golden State Warriors means 46 wins and missing the playoffs for a 3rd consecutive season.

    This team is not good enough right now to make a 25 game win improvement over last year……not even close……..that’s not even normal…..like I said, most good teams improve by a maximum of 15-17 wins unless they experience a major overhaul of their roster.

    We haven’t changed our roster much from last year thus far. We started out with Al Harrinton last year, then traded him for Crawford, now Crawford is gone and we added Claxton and Law. Claxton will likely not play many minutes and may end up being a permanent fixture in street clothes on the sidelines while Law has yet to prove himself a worthy 25-30 mpg guy in the NBA.

    We added Jermario Davidson from the D-League halfway through last year and we added Stephen Curry for 2009-2010.

    Where are the Kevin Garnetts? The Ray Allens? The Eddie Houses? The James Poseys? The Pau Gasols? The Trevor Arizas? Where are the kinds of players that made a difference for the teams they were shipped to and improved their teams’ previous year’s win totals?

    Before the Lakers acquired Gasol in 2007-2008, they were a good team, but they were lacking. Andrew was hurt, timid and under-developed and # 24 needed another star caliber player to shoulder some of the scoring burden, so Lamar wouldn’t feel like he has to score 19 ppg – 21 ppg a night.

    Only drastic changes will lead to a major win improvement for the 2009-2010 Golden State Warriors. Especially when you consider that we have the same stubborn coach, the same ownership group, a brand new General Manager and a young roster.

    Youth only wins in this league when they are exceptionally talented and ready for the NBA game.

    The players on that list are:

    1. Chris Paul
    2. Derron Williams
    3. Brandon Roy
    4. Lamarcus Aldridge

    These were the most recent group of young, immediate impact players that helped their teams blossom into legitimate, contending playoff teams within their first couple years (not necessarily their rookie years)…….but within their first FEW years.

    Also, the organizations that these young players are associated with are well-managed and have a clear direction and were already that way when they drafted these players.

    Portland had already begun its rebuilding process when we were “jerking off” over our 1st round defeat of Dallas in 2006-2007. They had already dumped a majority of their trouble-makers and had chosen to go in the direction of a tough-minded, young coach in Nate McMillan.

    Utah was an already established franchise with a HOF coach when they added Derron Williams. They already had a proven offensive philosophy in place and a group of proven role players.

    New Orleans was already beginning to rid itself of the hinderances that bogged them down when they drafted Paul. Who was the biggest problem for New Orleans? Well, it was our very own Baron Davis.

    They got rid of J.R. Smith, Chris Andersen, then began adding veteran pieces that still could contribute like Peja, Morris Peterson and Tyson Chandler.

    The 2009-2010 Golden State Warriors, I fear, do not have the same direction and clear objective that these other teams had when they added their “star” rookie players.

    Stephen Curry is walking into a situation of complete uncertainty. He will not be blessed with having a young, energetic and determined coach with a clear offensive and defensive philosophy, he will not be blessed with walking into a situation where his organization has already begun a rebuilding process, surrounding him with proven, winning, established NBA players. Instead he will be walking into a situation where he will have brand new people making personnel decisions for his organization in Larry Riley and his staff.

    That is not the way you turn around a losing season. There is absolutely nothing that tells me that the 2009-2010 Golden State Warriors are beginning to build themselves into a winning organization and that Stephen Curry was the only missing piece to that puzzle.

    We have many missing pieces, we better start addressing them if we want to live up to “Steve”‘s expecations.

    The Stoudemire deal, pursuing Bosh and other star caliber players are the kinds of moves that more and more are looking like the direction we need to go. I hate to lose our young, talented core that I like,….. but again, bold moves sometimes have to be made to turn around futility.

    I am still torn on the Stoudemire deal……but the more and more I think about it, the more and more I realize that we need players LIKE Stoudemire, not necessarily Stoudemire, but difference maker players that can take over a game at the most critical junctures.

    I’ve always said it, whether I’ve used the “Perry” handle or whatever handle I’ve used,…….we need a star caliber “go to” 4th quarter option, plain and simple, so we don’t end up giving away games in the 4th quarter that we should have won.

    “Steve”‘s examples of our nice wins in 2008-2009 speak just as much for our optimism as they do for our pessimism. Many of those games should never have even come down to the final buzzer………we would often play well through 3 quarters, then give the house away in the 4th quarter to Los Angeles, Cleveland, San Antonio, etc. on and on down the list……

  • deano

    Perry @ #54: That’s good review of the team’s dim prospects for reaching the playoffs next season. But I beleive, if I can still use that term, that substantial improvement can be made with just one move.

    All this squad really needs is a quality point guard. Look what the Billups trade did for Denver last year.

    Unfortuneately, it will be very hard for the Warriors to get the player they need. Unless there is a Bibby or Andre Miller trade on the horizon, our only hope for this next season is that either Curry or Law catches fire at the point during the Las Vegas Summer League. That might be enough to convince Nellie and Rowell to forget about trying to make Ellis a 1 and Jackson a 2.

  • Perry

    I agree with 1 move changes…….Billups is a great example……..absolutely.

    I know you’ve been touting Andre Miller all along “Deano” and I’ve always loved Andre’s game, he’s a West Coast guy from L.A., I’m from L.A. too, I like the West Coast guys a little bit more:

    P. Pierce
    G. Payton
    R. Miller
    B. Davis
    G. Arenas

    Always loved West Coast players…….

    I know that Miller is being pursued by Portland. I know he will command a pretty good contract.

    I think a Miller/Roy backcourt in Portland would be much deadlier than a Miller/Ellis backcourt. Roy is a better player than Monta, hands down. Roy is a difference maker and a 4th quarter killer.

    I think that Miller will choose to go to a team where he is just going to be the missing piece, Portland is an excellent fit.

    I don’t know if Miller, by himself, is enough for us. Billups came to a team with one of the top 10 best players in the NBA in my opinion in Carmello Anthony and an experienced, winning coach. The situation was perfect for him too.

    I think we would need Andre Miller and some more pieces to improve our team.

    The only 1 person moves that can improve our team to the level Billups improved Denver is the big names like D. Wade, Dirk Nowitzki and major, major star scorers and 4th quarter assassins like that…….Miller would be a nice addition, but him and Roy in Portland would be absolutely the right direction to go.

  • Perry

    Bibby just re-upped with Atlanta…..excellent move for them.

    Can we swing a deal that lands us Josh Smith and Joe Johnson together…….we would acquire defense, intenstiy, rebounding and athletic scoring with Smith and a legitimate 4th quarter option in Joe Johnson.

    A deal like that I think may even help us more than our Stoudemire proposal.

  • deano

    Perry: So, no Bibby no Miller. It’s on Stephen Curry and Acie Law. Curry has potential for greatness at the point (ask Bobby Knight), and Law has exhibited greatness at the point(though at A&M, and not thusfar in the NBA). Still, their prospects are far better than those of Ellis or Belinelli. Maybe CJ will improve his point skills over the summer.

    With Bibby and Miller off the table, I do not think that the Warriors should make any trades until they see how well their Las Vegas Summer League squad plays. It’s not just Curry and Law that need to be evaluated. The develpoment of Randolph, Morrow and Davidson needs to be mesaured as well, before the Warriors decide what they need and who is tradeable. If all of those players do well in the LVSL, we will not need any new talent at 4 or 5, and Ellis will become more tradeable.

  • jscrilla

    “It could potentially set things back. A new owner could mean new president, and maybe even new general manager and coach. And all that could mean new roster, new direction on the court.”

    Marcus, Im trying to figure out where the setback would be?

  • Steve

    The history of the Golden State Warriors to this point is 3 chapters in length. Chapter 1 is Rick Barry. Chapter 2 is best described as a potpourri of The Three Stooges, Ed Norton and Ralph Cramden, Abbott and Costello, and Laurel and Hardy. Chapter 3 is Don Nelson. On the positive side, a lot of exciting, winning basketball took place in Chapters 1 and 3, even an NBA Championship. On the negative side, Chapter 2 is the longest chapter in the book. Why am I so “rose-colored glasses” optimistic about the current Warriors? Because we are now in Chapter 3……..Don Nelson can’t or won’t coach defense. He’s too stubborn. He’s too tough on young players. He can’t coach “big men”. His system (run-and-gun) hasn’t won, and never will win, an NBA Championship. He’s too old. He drinks too much. He’s too fat. He smokes too many cigars. Have I forgotten anything? You wouldn’t think the Don Nelson chapter would be any good, except for the fact that the Golden State Warriors are a winning organization in Chapter 3. Nelson has coached 783 Warriors games, and won 396 times. They’ve had 6 winning seasons, which include multiple playoff series victories. I could care less about 1 playoff appearance in 15 years. That’s history and mostly a part of Chapter 2. When Nelson is here, for all his perceived weaknesses as a coach, the Warriors are exciting and they win more often than not. I wasn’t a fan of J-Rich, or Pietrus, or Barnes, or Dunleavy, or Murphy, or Harrington. I wasn’t a fan of Mullin as GM. I like AR. I like Monta. I like AB, and Morrow, and Belinelli, and Jackson, and Azubuike, and Turiaf, and Watson, and Wright. I like the drafting of Curry. I don’t CARE who the owner is. I don’t CARE who the President is. I think Riley is smart and will be better than Mullin as GM. I think the West is slowly changing, and within 5 years the “meek” will inherit the Western Conference. It’s not that I’m right, but these are all arguably rational reasons why I’m optimistic about the current state of GSW. Last season is over. And if history means anything, Don Nelson teams are never “down” for very long. This team is plenty young and plenty talented enough to quickly rebound and resume winning like 2 and 3 years ago. And like they’ve done throughout Chapter 3. The only real question remaining in my mind is what happens in Chapter 4? If it’s anything like what happened in Chapter’s 1 and 3, the Warriors will be in excellent shape for the future………….BTW, Perry, I like go-to-guys like everyone else does. One of the best parts about following teams and players is finding who’s clutch and who’s not. Mullin and J-Rich were 2 popular local players who were both horrible in the clutch. They put up numbers, but almost never when it really mattered. As a result, they were never personal favorites. Then you had Larry Bird, one of the greatest clutch players ever. While I could care less about the Celtics, I loved watching Bird do his thing. And Magic. And Jordan. And Kobe. The list goes on. With the Warriors, players like Monta and Randolph and Morrow are so young they really haven’t had a chance to show what they can do in the clutch. What about Curry? And Belinelli? The Warriors might already have their “go-to-guys”, they just need more time. Kobe Bryant was far from the player he is today after his first year in the league. That’s why, right or wrong, I’m preaching patience with this particular group.

  • jim back from fishing

    Reason for new management: The dismantling of the late 2006 through playoffs 2007 “We Believe” Warriors with NOTHING IN RETURN. 1)JRich for Wright–jury way out– and $10 Million exception –unused when really needed in 2008; 2) Pietrus, Barnes, and Baron let go; 3)Harrington for Crawford (now Law and Claxton). I know the kool-aid, we had to pay Andres; we had to pay Monte…but, we had to pay Magette (booby prize when we wanted Arenas or Brand)? Nelson and Jackson extended (gotta have some plug-in to the one glimpse of success in 15 years), but Mullins? Lots of potential young players to beat the drum; but the cold facts are 49 to 29 wins and a hard team to watch (selfish, defenseless, and unorganized, think late game inbound passes). Bottom-line with current 15 year aged management: the Warriors are a ticket-selling and not a playoff (let alone championship) priority driven team. Steve, I do appreciate your interest in young players, but I think the track record with this team is too negative to justify optimism.

  • jim back from fishing

    Should be 48 to 29 wins.

  • http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

    AirplaneRider!

    Fitz is back!!!!!

    Douche bag.
    How many handles does the team have, anyway?!?!

    I vote Rod Brooks is OptimusPrime.
    Rod’s a complete idiot and so is OP.

    2+2

  • jim back from fishing

    TK has reported to his bored housewives that Stern would like to see a change in ownership! He wants active owners who’ll take advantage of the huge fan base in the Bay Area. Where does TK get off making this stuff up? Boy, Cohan and Rowell ought to find deserving fans, like Seattle! Then Seattle could ride the huge wave of youth that’s going to explode in the next few years after the current big dogs flame out with their free agent signings!

    “Cheer, cheer for old Notre Dame…”

  • Perry

    Imagine a dinner party with the following attendees:

    1. Don Nelson
    2. George Karl
    3. Stan Van Gundy
    4. Andy Reid (The NFL Coach)
    5. Tony Gwynn (the HOF MLB hitter)
    6. Dennis Green (The NFL Coach)
    7. John Madden

    Possible Notables: Magic Johnson (My Favorite NBA player of all time, but he sure has let himself go over the past 5 years), Charlie Manuel (Phillies Manager), Mike Scioscia (Angels Manager)

    I don’t think there would be an empty plate left on the table………..these guys together, given 2-3 hours of dining…….should just about clean out every last bit of food left on the face of this planet.

  • Perry

    You guys all know that I’m a serious guy….I hardly ever make jokes……I just wanted to enjoy my day today and have some fun…….

    Please don’t disregard my credibility on my other posts, based solely on my last post……..I just thought it was funny.

    But I’m a serious guy……….

  • Lufty455

    #63- Too Funny… you are probably right.

  • MRFJG_SON

    Steve i get what your saying, don’t necessarily agree with you but PLEASE break up your post. You literally only need to hit return twice and it would help soooooo much more when trying to read your NO BREAK novel posts. Just trying to help… I write some novels too but for the reader you gotta break em up into paragraphs.

  • Steve

    #68, I have one of the very first Web TV boxes that came out many moons ago. As a result, regardless of whether or not I type paragraphs, it all comes out jammed together, one sentence after another. Believe me, I’ve sent my blogs more than once with paragraphs only to see the end result the same as my latest posting. Sorry. Maybe one of these days I’ll join the 21st Century and buy a computer. Ciao

  • MRFJG_SON

    LOL…that explains it, well if that is the case then I won’t give you such a hard time about it. But you should probably upgrade to an Apple II basic green screen comp just to get you going in the right direction…j/k, lol

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