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		<title>By: Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/07/13/summer-league-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-21849</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding Brandon Roy,.......both his and Aldridge&#039;s negotiations are not going as smoothly as thought......according to ESPN Inside.

Roy wants a 5th year on his deal.........

Portland just made a big offer to Millsap.......doesn&#039;t Millsap play the same position as their 2 young, talented players Aldridge and Outlaw?

Doesn&#039;t it seem like Portland is a little confused.........sure does to me.

The Hinrich talk, .....then it died down.....then the Millsap offer......then negotiation stalls with Aldridge and Roy.

It could all end up working out in the end, it probably will.......but smart GMs recognize these situations and try to take advantage of them.

Remember when we stole Baron Davis...then Al Harrington and Stephen Jackson.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Brandon Roy,&#8230;&#8230;.both his and Aldridge&#8217;s negotiations are not going as smoothly as thought&#8230;&#8230;according to ESPN Inside.</p>
<p>Roy wants a 5th year on his deal&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Portland just made a big offer to Millsap&#8230;&#8230;.doesn&#8217;t Millsap play the same position as their 2 young, talented players Aldridge and Outlaw?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t it seem like Portland is a little confused&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;sure does to me.</p>
<p>The Hinrich talk, &#8230;..then it died down&#8230;..then the Millsap offer&#8230;&#8230;then negotiation stalls with Aldridge and Roy.</p>
<p>It could all end up working out in the end, it probably will&#8230;&#8230;.but smart GMs recognize these situations and try to take advantage of them.</p>
<p>Remember when we stole Baron Davis&#8230;then Al Harrington and Stephen Jackson&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Clearwater&quot;......let me ask you this.......

Didn&#039;t you get the feeling that this organization had a big plan in the works to go after 1 of the guys on my &quot;list&quot; or any other player that would command a big contract or a max contract when they dealt Crawford?

Didn&#039;t you get the feeling that the Crawford deal was just the beginning of something maybe bigger to come?

I certainly felt that the Crawford deal was only step 1 to a bigger plan that may have included the dumping of more contracts to open up room to pursue some &quot;difference maker&quot; players.

Now, I threw my list together in 10 minutes mainly to prove a point that if we had continued with a pre-season objective to deal our bigger contracts, then maybe we would have a chance to attract some big name players.

Once again the Warrior organization dissapointed me and got my dick hard for no reason.

I like a lot of the guys who make big money on this team....I think most of the contracts are well-deserved.......AB, Ellis, Turiaf at $17 million....I like all those guys......I even like Corey, I think he&#039;s our best all-around scorer (I&#039;ve already gotten into this before, not going to elaborate my reasons).

But maybe we could have found a team that could have used a scorer like Maggette and a tough, energetic role player like Turiaf........

That&#039;s the point I&#039;m trying to make here......we have no plan, no objective and no foresight.

It is going to take a step by step plan to get a big name to come here, no question about that.

But we have to start somewhere,.......I&#039;m not stupid, I know Odom won&#039;t take an MLE to play for the Golden State Warriors, I know Millsap is commanding big money, I know T-Mac hasn&#039;t made it out of the 1st round when he&#039;s healthy, I know David Lee would hinder AR&#039;s growth..........but it is the big picture that I&#039;m trying to convey here.

You have to start somewhere,...........

Also, I know that there is no guarantee that anyone would want Corey Maggette and his contract.......

But I also felt that way about Troy Murphy and his deal, J-Rich and his deal, Adonal Foyle and his deal, even Erick Dampier and his $52 million deal.......

We made those deals though and in the case of the Murphy deal, got ourselves into the playoffs with the players we acquired.

Not everyone one of those deals worked out great,.....but there are even stupider teams out there than us that would be willing to make desperate moves to try to improve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clearwater&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;let me ask you this&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you get the feeling that this organization had a big plan in the works to go after 1 of the guys on my &#8220;list&#8221; or any other player that would command a big contract or a max contract when they dealt Crawford?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you get the feeling that the Crawford deal was just the beginning of something maybe bigger to come?</p>
<p>I certainly felt that the Crawford deal was only step 1 to a bigger plan that may have included the dumping of more contracts to open up room to pursue some &#8220;difference maker&#8221; players.</p>
<p>Now, I threw my list together in 10 minutes mainly to prove a point that if we had continued with a pre-season objective to deal our bigger contracts, then maybe we would have a chance to attract some big name players.</p>
<p>Once again the Warrior organization dissapointed me and got my dick hard for no reason.</p>
<p>I like a lot of the guys who make big money on this team&#8230;.I think most of the contracts are well-deserved&#8230;&#8230;.AB, Ellis, Turiaf at $17 million&#8230;.I like all those guys&#8230;&#8230;I even like Corey, I think he&#8217;s our best all-around scorer (I&#8217;ve already gotten into this before, not going to elaborate my reasons).</p>
<p>But maybe we could have found a team that could have used a scorer like Maggette and a tough, energetic role player like Turiaf&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the point I&#8217;m trying to make here&#8230;&#8230;we have no plan, no objective and no foresight.</p>
<p>It is going to take a step by step plan to get a big name to come here, no question about that.</p>
<p>But we have to start somewhere,&#8230;&#8230;.I&#8217;m not stupid, I know Odom won&#8217;t take an MLE to play for the Golden State Warriors, I know Millsap is commanding big money, I know T-Mac hasn&#8217;t made it out of the 1st round when he&#8217;s healthy, I know David Lee would hinder AR&#8217;s growth&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.but it is the big picture that I&#8217;m trying to convey here.</p>
<p>You have to start somewhere,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Also, I know that there is no guarantee that anyone would want Corey Maggette and his contract&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>But I also felt that way about Troy Murphy and his deal, J-Rich and his deal, Adonal Foyle and his deal, even Erick Dampier and his $52 million deal&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>We made those deals though and in the case of the Murphy deal, got ourselves into the playoffs with the players we acquired.</p>
<p>Not everyone one of those deals worked out great,&#8230;..but there are even stupider teams out there than us that would be willing to make desperate moves to try to improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Clearwater&quot;............we can still trade some of our bigger contracts to clear space.

The problem is that that would take shrewd management and that is something we don&#039;t have; that&#039;s why I&#039;m blaming the organization.

That&#039;s about the extent of my response to you......

The problems with this organization go far beyond this year&#039;s cap space, stupid...........

If I don&#039;t blame the orgnanization, who else am I going to blame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clearwater&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;we can still trade some of our bigger contracts to clear space.</p>
<p>The problem is that that would take shrewd management and that is something we don&#8217;t have; that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m blaming the organization.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about the extent of my response to you&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>The problems with this organization go far beyond this year&#8217;s cap space, stupid&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>If I don&#8217;t blame the orgnanization, who else am I going to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus Banks another one who scored 42 in SL.........

I&#039;m glad to see &quot;Just Puked&quot; and &quot;Optimus&quot; not too over-excited about this.....let&#039;s keep things in perspective.  Glad not to see an &quot;overly-homeristic&quot; response to Anthony&#039;s 42 in SL by bloggers......

Let&#039;s see if Anthony Randolph can do this from November 2009 to April 2010.........

If he ends up playing the 4, which I think he will, let&#039;s see if he can do this against T. Duncan, L. Aldridge, D. Nowitzki, Al Jefferson, D. West and A&#039;mare Stoudemire.

If he is able to perform that way under the circumstances I named above.......then yes.....we can start calling him a &quot;star&quot; in the making.

Good job, Warrior fans, in keeping this in perspective and not getting over-excited and crowning Anthony Randolph the second coming of Christ just yet.

Most guys in SL don&#039;t even make an NBA regular season roster......those are the guys AR scored 42 on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus Banks another one who scored 42 in SL&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to see &#8220;Just Puked&#8221; and &#8220;Optimus&#8221; not too over-excited about this&#8230;..let&#8217;s keep things in perspective.  Glad not to see an &#8220;overly-homeristic&#8221; response to Anthony&#8217;s 42 in SL by bloggers&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if Anthony Randolph can do this from November 2009 to April 2010&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>If he ends up playing the 4, which I think he will, let&#8217;s see if he can do this against T. Duncan, L. Aldridge, D. Nowitzki, Al Jefferson, D. West and A&#8217;mare Stoudemire.</p>
<p>If he is able to perform that way under the circumstances I named above&#8230;&#8230;.then yes&#8230;..we can start calling him a &#8220;star&#8221; in the making.</p>
<p>Good job, Warrior fans, in keeping this in perspective and not getting over-excited and crowning Anthony Randolph the second coming of Christ just yet.</p>
<p>Most guys in SL don&#8217;t even make an NBA regular season roster&#8230;&#8230;those are the guys AR scored 42 on.</p>
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		<title>By: WFanInSeattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>WFanInSeattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just saw the article on last night&#039;s summer league game. I have been in favor of grabbing a stud for some role players (which is basically all the W&#039;s have other than their &quot;core&quot;).

But here is a series of &quot;if&#039;s&quot; for everyone.
  - If Randolf is that high on the learning curve as his all around play seems to be (granted it is against poor competition).
  - If Curry really does pass and shoot like he is proported to be able to do.
  - If Monta comes in healthy with a good attitude.

Assuming these are true, then we would be looking at
Monta, Curry and Jackson at guards, and Randolf and Beidrens down low. Even with Monta and Curry&#039;s defensive deficiencies, Jackson can take on almost anyone outside, and apparently Randolf has worked hard on his defense and rebounding, so Beidrens wouldn&#039;t be all alone under the basket.

We wouldn&#039;t be the Lakers, but we also wouldn&#039;t be the Thunder/Clippers - somewhere in between? Maybe even up to 6th (???) in the west.

Probably too optimistic - but if the brass can swing a 2 for 1 role player trade to upgrade the rotation, then we wouldn&#039;t be as bad as last year, and would be looking up in the next few years as the guys mature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw the article on last night&#8217;s summer league game. I have been in favor of grabbing a stud for some role players (which is basically all the W&#8217;s have other than their &#8220;core&#8221;).</p>
<p>But here is a series of &#8220;if&#8217;s&#8221; for everyone.<br />
  &#8211; If Randolf is that high on the learning curve as his all around play seems to be (granted it is against poor competition).<br />
  &#8211; If Curry really does pass and shoot like he is proported to be able to do.<br />
  &#8211; If Monta comes in healthy with a good attitude.</p>
<p>Assuming these are true, then we would be looking at<br />
Monta, Curry and Jackson at guards, and Randolf and Beidrens down low. Even with Monta and Curry&#8217;s defensive deficiencies, Jackson can take on almost anyone outside, and apparently Randolf has worked hard on his defense and rebounding, so Beidrens wouldn&#8217;t be all alone under the basket.</p>
<p>We wouldn&#8217;t be the Lakers, but we also wouldn&#8217;t be the Thunder/Clippers &#8211; somewhere in between? Maybe even up to 6th (???) in the west.</p>
<p>Probably too optimistic &#8211; but if the brass can swing a 2 for 1 role player trade to upgrade the rotation, then we wouldn&#8217;t be as bad as last year, and would be looking up in the next few years as the guys mature.</p>
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		<title>By: OptimusPrime</title>
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		<dc:creator>OptimusPrime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was actually more impressed with ARs post interview.  Although he went for 42 he was dissapointed that he only had 3 Boards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually more impressed with ARs post interview.  Although he went for 42 he was dissapointed that he only had 3 Boards.</p>
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		<title>By: OptimusPrime</title>
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		<dc:creator>OptimusPrime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im happy for Randolph, but like you said it doesnt mean anything.  Diogu went for 37 pts in SL and he sucks; Nate Robinson&#039;s SL jersey is retired.

Im just glad to see AR is trying to take his game to the next level.  I saw a couple of nice new low posts moves and oh yea....that dunk was SICK!!  You cant teach drive and he has a lot of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im happy for Randolph, but like you said it doesnt mean anything.  Diogu went for 37 pts in SL and he sucks; Nate Robinson&#8217;s SL jersey is retired.</p>
<p>Im just glad to see AR is trying to take his game to the next level.  I saw a couple of nice new low posts moves and oh yea&#8230;.that dunk was SICK!!  You cant teach drive and he has a lot of it.</p>
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		<title>By: JustPuked</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustPuked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...and that&#039;s why Randolph needs to keep playing.  It&#039;s not enough for him to shine in SL, he needs to experience what it&#039;s like to dominate.  He needs to get comfortable being a star if he&#039;s going to blossom into one.  Dominating SL does not directly translate to dominating in the regular season, especially for guards, but if your bigs can&#039;t dominate, it doesn&#039;t bode well at all (Thabeet anyone).  Randolph&#039;s performance isn&#039;t a guarantee of anything, but it&#039;s good to see him thirsting to dominate in the first place.  After watching too many low intensity guys with low motors like Dunmurphy (yes I said it), Digou, POB and possibly Wright (I really hope it&#039;s not the case with BW) it&#039;s refreshing to see a bigger player like Randolph playing his heart out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and that&#8217;s why Randolph needs to keep playing.  It&#8217;s not enough for him to shine in SL, he needs to experience what it&#8217;s like to dominate.  He needs to get comfortable being a star if he&#8217;s going to blossom into one.  Dominating SL does not directly translate to dominating in the regular season, especially for guards, but if your bigs can&#8217;t dominate, it doesn&#8217;t bode well at all (Thabeet anyone).  Randolph&#8217;s performance isn&#8217;t a guarantee of anything, but it&#8217;s good to see him thirsting to dominate in the first place.  After watching too many low intensity guys with low motors like Dunmurphy (yes I said it), Digou, POB and possibly Wright (I really hope it&#8217;s not the case with BW) it&#8217;s refreshing to see a bigger player like Randolph playing his heart out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MARCUS CHANGE THE BANNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MARCUS CHANGE THE BANNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: clearwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>clearwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perry.... you seem like a real idiot. Oh yeh, I forgot about the fact that the Warriors have tons of cap room to go offer some of these Free Agents huge deals. God you are stupid.

You are seriously blaming the Warriors organization for not bringing one of these guys in? Lets go down your &quot;list&quot;.

Lamar Odom: we are a losing team and could only offer him MLE from my understanding. why in the hell would he come here?

Brandon Roy: I really hope you are joking. He is the franchise player for the Blazers.

T-Mac: You are advocating the warriors go pick up an aging, non-playoff winning, volume shooting, highly paid Tracy McGrady. Yeh, he would drastically improve our team...

Millsap has been talked about, Warriors never had an opportunity to get him (we didn&#039;t have the money to offer him).

Lee: You want to have Lee come in here and supplant the role of Anthony Randolph? Lee, an under-sized PF with no shot? We are trying to move AWAY from mediocrity, not towards it.

Boozer: The only way I would be ok with having Boozer here is if he was going to play the 4 and we played Randolph at the 5 (presumably trading Beans). Even still, Boozer is undersized and plays absolutely no defense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry&#8230;. you seem like a real idiot. Oh yeh, I forgot about the fact that the Warriors have tons of cap room to go offer some of these Free Agents huge deals. God you are stupid.</p>
<p>You are seriously blaming the Warriors organization for not bringing one of these guys in? Lets go down your &#8220;list&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lamar Odom: we are a losing team and could only offer him MLE from my understanding. why in the hell would he come here?</p>
<p>Brandon Roy: I really hope you are joking. He is the franchise player for the Blazers.</p>
<p>T-Mac: You are advocating the warriors go pick up an aging, non-playoff winning, volume shooting, highly paid Tracy McGrady. Yeh, he would drastically improve our team&#8230;</p>
<p>Millsap has been talked about, Warriors never had an opportunity to get him (we didn&#8217;t have the money to offer him).</p>
<p>Lee: You want to have Lee come in here and supplant the role of Anthony Randolph? Lee, an under-sized PF with no shot? We are trying to move AWAY from mediocrity, not towards it.</p>
<p>Boozer: The only way I would be ok with having Boozer here is if he was going to play the 4 and we played Randolph at the 5 (presumably trading Beans). Even still, Boozer is undersized and plays absolutely no defense.</p>
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