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		<title>By: don't do it</title>
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		<dc:creator>don't do it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monta must average over 6 dimes to succeed. The whole team needs that or we are done. Look at Devin Harris. They are the same player but Harris figured out how to pass. If Monta can step up with the handles he would be totally unstoppable. Everyone knows he will either hoist the midrange shot or blow by you, they defend for that and still he averages 25ppg. If he can average 21ppg and 6+ dimes we have a future. Dre needs to just be consistent with his D and double doubles, but nobody expects a 30 point game from him. AR needs to be the next KG, and he looks like he has the tools and the attitude. If AR, Dre, and Monta grow, the rest don&#039;t matter. We can&#039;t get rid of Maggette with his contract, and Jack plays the single easiest position to replace. His numbers last year were impressive but you can count how many wins it gets you. Morrow is cold blooded but he lacks the athleticism to play the 2 full time. Curry may be a stud, but we won&#039;t know for a while. So hold out hope that AR, Monta, and Dre can lead this team, the rest of the guys are just gravy. Ronni and Wright are better than any other team&#039;s backup bigs, and we still have Buke. Trading away Belli for George is a head scratcher, we could have used Belli at times, we will never require George to step on the floor. But remember this, we were nobody without Baron Davis, we are nobody again since Robert Rowell the moron got rid of him for an anchor named Corey. Until a PG steps up to lead us again, we will sniff the lottery over and over. Monta has the tools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monta must average over 6 dimes to succeed. The whole team needs that or we are done. Look at Devin Harris. They are the same player but Harris figured out how to pass. If Monta can step up with the handles he would be totally unstoppable. Everyone knows he will either hoist the midrange shot or blow by you, they defend for that and still he averages 25ppg. If he can average 21ppg and 6+ dimes we have a future. Dre needs to just be consistent with his D and double doubles, but nobody expects a 30 point game from him. AR needs to be the next KG, and he looks like he has the tools and the attitude. If AR, Dre, and Monta grow, the rest don&#8217;t matter. We can&#8217;t get rid of Maggette with his contract, and Jack plays the single easiest position to replace. His numbers last year were impressive but you can count how many wins it gets you. Morrow is cold blooded but he lacks the athleticism to play the 2 full time. Curry may be a stud, but we won&#8217;t know for a while. So hold out hope that AR, Monta, and Dre can lead this team, the rest of the guys are just gravy. Ronni and Wright are better than any other team&#8217;s backup bigs, and we still have Buke. Trading away Belli for George is a head scratcher, we could have used Belli at times, we will never require George to step on the floor. But remember this, we were nobody without Baron Davis, we are nobody again since Robert Rowell the moron got rid of him for an anchor named Corey. Until a PG steps up to lead us again, we will sniff the lottery over and over. Monta has the tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Dunkin on Warrior dumdumbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dunkin on Warrior dumdumbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Sunny G: Can you pick your co workers and what your company does? and if some one was hired that can basically do your job would you feel slighted or work harder to make sure you work hard to make them feel they made a mistake. Fact of the matter is if you were makin 10 mil a year and couldnt be fired anyway would you even give a damn?! Well stop catering to the atheletes wants because they dont matter. The thing is both of these guys are spoiled atheletes with big egos and no allstar appearances who didnt start yappin there gums until they signed big contracts and where dubbed captains ofthe team. The thing is the traded away all their friends and there feelings were hurt. I didnt hear jacksons trade demands when he was playin under that old contract or hear about monte doin any mopad stunts before that big contract.lets look at the friends that were  that traded&gt; Braon Davis: loved this guy. born leader and although i think he would have got gotten real old after we gave him a big contract you cant replace that. i would have rather resigned him than sign megette for the same money. Front office bluffed and Baron called. Are we better off with curry? we&#039;ll see but the future looks bright. J Rich: loved his explosiveness and fire but never played defense,never worked well enough on handles and should have came off the bench for us because he&#039;s doin nothin in charlotte. didnt like the trade but Brandon Wright gives us defense and rebounds. I&#039;ll take that because we have enough ball hoggs that can score the ball. al harrington. give me a break woulda gave him up for nothin which is exactly what we got. thought he was better than he actually was. Matt barnes love this guy also know him personally as well as alot of the other worriors but to inconsistant but he made his mark with the dubs in the playoff run had personal lost in 2008 effected his game but this is a biz and i understand. So are the warriors better off now? you tell me. we are the deepest team in the league and have more talent than any team in the league and any warrior tem that i can remember. Deep at every position with the same coach who consistantly leads teams to the playoffs. So note to the spoiled athelete and i hate the fact more so that again these are black spoiled atheletes ( im an african american man) You 2 guys come from lower income homes and and you were able to buy your mom her dream home right out of high school basically because of a hobbie you picked up as a kid that turn into a career. You know how many people would kill to be able to do that? Its a job you dont make the rules and in the end Sonny g we the fans should fill betrayed and not these spoiled overpayed atheletes. SO SHUT YOUR PIEHOLES AND PLAY BALL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Sunny G: Can you pick your co workers and what your company does? and if some one was hired that can basically do your job would you feel slighted or work harder to make sure you work hard to make them feel they made a mistake. Fact of the matter is if you were makin 10 mil a year and couldnt be fired anyway would you even give a damn?! Well stop catering to the atheletes wants because they dont matter. The thing is both of these guys are spoiled atheletes with big egos and no allstar appearances who didnt start yappin there gums until they signed big contracts and where dubbed captains ofthe team. The thing is the traded away all their friends and there feelings were hurt. I didnt hear jacksons trade demands when he was playin under that old contract or hear about monte doin any mopad stunts before that big contract.lets look at the friends that were  that traded&gt; Braon Davis: loved this guy. born leader and although i think he would have got gotten real old after we gave him a big contract you cant replace that. i would have rather resigned him than sign megette for the same money. Front office bluffed and Baron called. Are we better off with curry? we&#8217;ll see but the future looks bright. J Rich: loved his explosiveness and fire but never played defense,never worked well enough on handles and should have came off the bench for us because he&#8217;s doin nothin in charlotte. didnt like the trade but Brandon Wright gives us defense and rebounds. I&#8217;ll take that because we have enough ball hoggs that can score the ball. al harrington. give me a break woulda gave him up for nothin which is exactly what we got. thought he was better than he actually was. Matt barnes love this guy also know him personally as well as alot of the other worriors but to inconsistant but he made his mark with the dubs in the playoff run had personal lost in 2008 effected his game but this is a biz and i understand. So are the warriors better off now? you tell me. we are the deepest team in the league and have more talent than any team in the league and any warrior tem that i can remember. Deep at every position with the same coach who consistantly leads teams to the playoffs. So note to the spoiled athelete and i hate the fact more so that again these are black spoiled atheletes ( im an african american man) You 2 guys come from lower income homes and and you were able to buy your mom her dream home right out of high school basically because of a hobbie you picked up as a kid that turn into a career. You know how many people would kill to be able to do that? Its a job you dont make the rules and in the end Sonny g we the fans should fill betrayed and not these spoiled overpayed atheletes. SO SHUT YOUR PIEHOLES AND PLAY BALL!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Warriors fan the ONLY thing that matters to me is what happens when these guys get on the court and start playing other teams once the regular season begins. I don&#039;t care what Jackson or Ellis or anyone else talks about away from the game. That stuff keeps the tabloid geniuses in business but otherwise is meaningless. This team has talent and can win if they stay healthy. The Western Conference is getting weaker, not stronger. Whenever I come here to amuse myself for a few minutes, all I read about is Cohan and Rowell being inept, Nelson being too old and an alcoholic, and how poor Mully was crapped on by all the aforementioned. LOL Oh yeah, and about all those great players the Warriors have let go in the past. Sleepy Floyd? Joe Barely Cares? OMG If Chris Webber was so great why did he have to go to the Siberia of the NBA (at the time), Sacramento, to make a name for himself? And he wound up with how many rings? How about J-Rich? How long did it take Larry Brown to realize that the guy was just &quot;another player&quot;? The point is, other than Rick Barry, the Warriors have never had any great players to get rid of. And, they&#039;ve never had any (potentially) great teams to break up. I have no idea how the 2009-2010 Warriors are going to do. What I do know is that I&#039;m ready for the new season to start, and this team has enough talent to make a lot of people look even dumber than they are. And considering the existing level of stupidity that already permeates these blog sites and local tabloids, that would be a major accomplishment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Warriors fan the ONLY thing that matters to me is what happens when these guys get on the court and start playing other teams once the regular season begins. I don&#8217;t care what Jackson or Ellis or anyone else talks about away from the game. That stuff keeps the tabloid geniuses in business but otherwise is meaningless. This team has talent and can win if they stay healthy. The Western Conference is getting weaker, not stronger. Whenever I come here to amuse myself for a few minutes, all I read about is Cohan and Rowell being inept, Nelson being too old and an alcoholic, and how poor Mully was crapped on by all the aforementioned. LOL Oh yeah, and about all those great players the Warriors have let go in the past. Sleepy Floyd? Joe Barely Cares? OMG If Chris Webber was so great why did he have to go to the Siberia of the NBA (at the time), Sacramento, to make a name for himself? And he wound up with how many rings? How about J-Rich? How long did it take Larry Brown to realize that the guy was just &#8220;another player&#8221;? The point is, other than Rick Barry, the Warriors have never had any great players to get rid of. And, they&#8217;ve never had any (potentially) great teams to break up. I have no idea how the 2009-2010 Warriors are going to do. What I do know is that I&#8217;m ready for the new season to start, and this team has enough talent to make a lot of people look even dumber than they are. And considering the existing level of stupidity that already permeates these blog sites and local tabloids, that would be a major accomplishment.</p>
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		<title>By: commish</title>
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		<dc:creator>commish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I can say is what goes around comes around.  You would have to have a very thick manual on every wrong move that has led to the current total meltdown from top to bottom.  It is almost unfathomable how many mistakes were made in the last two + years and boggles the mind.  I don&#039;t blame Jax and Monta for not wanting to be Warriors-who really would be.  Last year you had to think Baron got the worst of it landing with the Clips.  He probably got the better of it with everything that has happened and what will happen this abysal looking season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is what goes around comes around.  You would have to have a very thick manual on every wrong move that has led to the current total meltdown from top to bottom.  It is almost unfathomable how many mistakes were made in the last two + years and boggles the mind.  I don&#8217;t blame Jax and Monta for not wanting to be Warriors-who really would be.  Last year you had to think Baron got the worst of it landing with the Clips.  He probably got the better of it with everything that has happened and what will happen this abysal looking season.</p>
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		<title>By: freez</title>
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		<dc:creator>freez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MT i think u should change your header pic of Al to someone who is currently on the team.. might i suggest randolph dunking over yao..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MT i think u should change your header pic of Al to someone who is currently on the team.. might i suggest randolph dunking over yao..</p>
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		<title>By: johnfree</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with your mind-reading on Monta - and as far as it goes, who can blame him?

My further notion is that the only reason we heard about it is the &quot;breakdown in civility&quot; started by Jax mouthing off.  Without that, Monta woulda kept his thoughts to himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with your mind-reading on Monta &#8211; and as far as it goes, who can blame him?</p>
<p>My further notion is that the only reason we heard about it is the &#8220;breakdown in civility&#8221; started by Jax mouthing off.  Without that, Monta woulda kept his thoughts to himself.</p>
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		<title>By: TimTom</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus,
  You do a great job of covering this team. You&#039;re cathartic to the real fans who are fed up with the politics and losing basketball. It&#039;s never about the product on the court with the Cohan owned Warriors, but about saving face for their consistent mess ups. There has never been a team with so much young talent that is wasted, and so much veteran talent that is shipped away for free.

Keep up the great work Marcus, and keep telling it how it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,<br />
  You do a great job of covering this team. You&#8217;re cathartic to the real fans who are fed up with the politics and losing basketball. It&#8217;s never about the product on the court with the Cohan owned Warriors, but about saving face for their consistent mess ups. There has never been a team with so much young talent that is wasted, and so much veteran talent that is shipped away for free.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work Marcus, and keep telling it how it is.</p>
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		<title>By: sonnyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonnyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what a lot of the local writers are failing to pick up on is that Jackson and Ellis feel betrayed by the team. I think what needs some probing is how Nelson has felt about them all along, even including the so-called good times, the We Believe run. I personally feel that Nelson never was on board with the make- up of the team. He could never take control of a Baron Davis led team and last year showed just how much he could control Steven Jackson. Jackson&#039;s bitterness against the team, I believe his feeling of being betrayed, occured when Nelson broached the subject of trading him last year- publicly. I don&#039;t think Nelson was ever a fan of Ellis, and in his mind sees Curry as an upgrade. And I think Ellis knows this.
Nelson has recently mentioned that he has experience rebuilding teams and that is exactly how he has approached his latest stint coaching the team. No one should really be surprised. Mullin only had to remember how all of his rookie teammates disappeared.  They also had made the playoffs and produced a stunning first round upset.  Someone ask the ghosts of Sleepy Floyd, Purvis Short, Larry Smith, and Joe Barry Carroll if they are surprised at the current goings on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what a lot of the local writers are failing to pick up on is that Jackson and Ellis feel betrayed by the team. I think what needs some probing is how Nelson has felt about them all along, even including the so-called good times, the We Believe run. I personally feel that Nelson never was on board with the make- up of the team. He could never take control of a Baron Davis led team and last year showed just how much he could control Steven Jackson. Jackson&#8217;s bitterness against the team, I believe his feeling of being betrayed, occured when Nelson broached the subject of trading him last year- publicly. I don&#8217;t think Nelson was ever a fan of Ellis, and in his mind sees Curry as an upgrade. And I think Ellis knows this.<br />
Nelson has recently mentioned that he has experience rebuilding teams and that is exactly how he has approached his latest stint coaching the team. No one should really be surprised. Mullin only had to remember how all of his rookie teammates disappeared.  They also had made the playoffs and produced a stunning first round upset.  Someone ask the ghosts of Sleepy Floyd, Purvis Short, Larry Smith, and Joe Barry Carroll if they are surprised at the current goings on.</p>
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		<title>By: King of California</title>
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		<dc:creator>King of California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure I&#039;d want to be in the same foxhole with these geniuses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I&#8217;d want to be in the same foxhole with these geniuses.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Morning Report: C.J. Watson hurts his knee, will see the doctor on Wednesday</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Morning Report: C.J. Watson hurts his knee, will see the doctor on Wednesday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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