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		<title>By: stoops</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/16/jax-gone-to-charlotte/comment-page-1/#comment-23477</link>
		<dc:creator>stoops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Thompson thanks for reporting Raja Bell&#039;s status as one of those &#039;healthy&#039; players that will come on board fix this mess of a team. 
He&#039;s having season ending surgery... as a follower of an NBA team, shouldn&#039;t you have been on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Thompson thanks for reporting Raja Bell&#8217;s status as one of those &#8216;healthy&#8217; players that will come on board fix this mess of a team.<br />
He&#8217;s having season ending surgery&#8230; as a follower of an NBA team, shouldn&#8217;t you have been on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Harp's Dubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harp's Dubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT day for the Dubs!!!  Here&#039;s the formula for fixing everything quickly:
1. Trade Monta to Sacto for Kevin Martin - they get a backcourt of Monta and Tyreke Evans (nice duo) and we get a real SG (who, granted, plays no D) to pair with Curry.
2.  Trade Maggette and our first rounder to Memphis for Rudy Gay and Marko Jaric.  Griz will lose Gay, most likely, so would probably make this happen due to the 1st rounder.
3.  Trade Biedrins, Randolph and Claxton to Toronto for Bosh.  We know Bosh is leaving anyway, so the Raps get a solid starting center in Beans and a potential Bosh clone.

Warriors this year:
PG - Curry/Watson
SG - Martin/Morrow/Bell
SF - Gay/Jaric/George
PF - Bosh/Radmanovic/Wright when healthy
C - Turiaf/Moore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT day for the Dubs!!!  Here&#8217;s the formula for fixing everything quickly:<br />
1. Trade Monta to Sacto for Kevin Martin &#8211; they get a backcourt of Monta and Tyreke Evans (nice duo) and we get a real SG (who, granted, plays no D) to pair with Curry.<br />
2.  Trade Maggette and our first rounder to Memphis for Rudy Gay and Marko Jaric.  Griz will lose Gay, most likely, so would probably make this happen due to the 1st rounder.<br />
3.  Trade Biedrins, Randolph and Claxton to Toronto for Bosh.  We know Bosh is leaving anyway, so the Raps get a solid starting center in Beans and a potential Bosh clone.</p>
<p>Warriors this year:<br />
PG &#8211; Curry/Watson<br />
SG &#8211; Martin/Morrow/Bell<br />
SF &#8211; Gay/Jaric/George<br />
PF &#8211; Bosh/Radmanovic/Wright when healthy<br />
C &#8211; Turiaf/Moore</p>
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		<title>By: Ewok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This team is on a build up. That is why i hate it.

If you have a team that clicked beating the number 1 seed back in 2007, and did not do bad in the second round of the playoffs, Why did we break it up FOR THIS?

It really baffles me. 

As for Nelson, Jackson has this to say... &quot;The kind of coach I want that has your back,&quot; Jackson told the AP. &quot;That&#039;s something that&#039;s big to me. If a coach has my back, then I don&#039;t mind playing 110 percent for him.&quot; Jackson&#039;s parting shot to him proves a valid point. 

Doesnt this remind us of pattern?

Chis Webber, Al Harrington, Baron Davis, Mario Ellie, Vincent Askew, Tim Hardaway, even his protege, Chris Mullin.. and now Stephen Jackson.

I know Jackson is a malcontent but he sure knows what Honor and Loyalty means, even if he learned it from the streets.

So, since this team is on a build up mode and gone are the &quot;We Believe&quot; movement, the next question is, Who is the next guy going to be traded?

I think Monta is on his way out too. 

Why, because this team has a different agenda other than winning. The most legitimate reason is to divest money and again, to build it up.

That is why i hate this team even though I love it out of honor and loyalty, unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This team is on a build up. That is why i hate it.</p>
<p>If you have a team that clicked beating the number 1 seed back in 2007, and did not do bad in the second round of the playoffs, Why did we break it up FOR THIS?</p>
<p>It really baffles me. </p>
<p>As for Nelson, Jackson has this to say&#8230; &#8220;The kind of coach I want that has your back,&#8221; Jackson told the AP. &#8220;That&#8217;s something that&#8217;s big to me. If a coach has my back, then I don&#8217;t mind playing 110 percent for him.&#8221; Jackson&#8217;s parting shot to him proves a valid point. </p>
<p>Doesnt this remind us of pattern?</p>
<p>Chis Webber, Al Harrington, Baron Davis, Mario Ellie, Vincent Askew, Tim Hardaway, even his protege, Chris Mullin.. and now Stephen Jackson.</p>
<p>I know Jackson is a malcontent but he sure knows what Honor and Loyalty means, even if he learned it from the streets.</p>
<p>So, since this team is on a build up mode and gone are the &#8220;We Believe&#8221; movement, the next question is, Who is the next guy going to be traded?</p>
<p>I think Monta is on his way out too. </p>
<p>Why, because this team has a different agenda other than winning. The most legitimate reason is to divest money and again, to build it up.</p>
<p>That is why i hate this team even though I love it out of honor and loyalty, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Pile On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pile On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time will tell if the Warriors are any better or worse after this debacle.  I&#039;d like to see this squad healthy and motivated after a few months together.  At full strength they might be a 7-8 team.  But without Turiaf, Biedrins, Wright and Azubuike they are doomed.

In hindsight it was a huge mistake to trade J. Rich for Wright but the Warriors had a real logjam at the SG and we needed a power forward.  He was dealt to make room for Monta.  Remember?  That was back when Baron ran the point.  And now Wright appears too fragile to play.  Maybe someday we&#039;ll see Wright and Randolph flying down the court together.  That was the hope anyway.

But let&#039;s not forget to take a moment to appreciate the real hilarity in the Jackson trade.  Did you read his interview about how thrilled he was to be traded to the playoff bound Bobcats?!  I can&#039;t wait to watch that show unfold. Hey Jack, looks like Nellie had your back afterall.  Hahahahaha! 

Just one point of clarification, Jack.  You are wrong when you say that the Warriors proved that they didn&#039;t want to win by trading J. Rich.  thought that the trade would make them better.  The only thing it proves is that they have a history of making boneheaded trades that don&#039;t pan out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time will tell if the Warriors are any better or worse after this debacle.  I&#8217;d like to see this squad healthy and motivated after a few months together.  At full strength they might be a 7-8 team.  But without Turiaf, Biedrins, Wright and Azubuike they are doomed.</p>
<p>In hindsight it was a huge mistake to trade J. Rich for Wright but the Warriors had a real logjam at the SG and we needed a power forward.  He was dealt to make room for Monta.  Remember?  That was back when Baron ran the point.  And now Wright appears too fragile to play.  Maybe someday we&#8217;ll see Wright and Randolph flying down the court together.  That was the hope anyway.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s not forget to take a moment to appreciate the real hilarity in the Jackson trade.  Did you read his interview about how thrilled he was to be traded to the playoff bound Bobcats?!  I can&#8217;t wait to watch that show unfold. Hey Jack, looks like Nellie had your back afterall.  Hahahahaha! </p>
<p>Just one point of clarification, Jack.  You are wrong when you say that the Warriors proved that they didn&#8217;t want to win by trading J. Rich.  thought that the trade would make them better.  The only thing it proves is that they have a history of making boneheaded trades that don&#8217;t pan out.</p>
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		<title>By: commish</title>
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		<dc:creator>commish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly we should rejoice for a small victory of getting rid of Jax.  But the bigger questions remain of how (or if is more likely) will the cost savings be used.  Probably pocketed by Cohan like the $9M TPE we got for J Rich.  Nice move.

Anyway, under Nelson as the hopeless over the hill coach he is and the money grubbing owner and his surroagate Rowell, most likely nothing good will come out of this opportunity.  Having said that, I&#039;m so glad that selfish and ball hogging egotist Jax is off the roster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly we should rejoice for a small victory of getting rid of Jax.  But the bigger questions remain of how (or if is more likely) will the cost savings be used.  Probably pocketed by Cohan like the $9M TPE we got for J Rich.  Nice move.</p>
<p>Anyway, under Nelson as the hopeless over the hill coach he is and the money grubbing owner and his surroagate Rowell, most likely nothing good will come out of this opportunity.  Having said that, I&#8217;m so glad that selfish and ball hogging egotist Jax is off the roster.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This team has gone backward big time.  They had decent quality pieces that they could have added to.  Instead, this sorry team is back to rebuilding. I said two years ago and I will say again that they need a basic goal for this team.  Not let quality pieces go causing chaos and player discontent. 

Fire the whole damn front office. This is pathetic Cohan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This team has gone backward big time.  They had decent quality pieces that they could have added to.  Instead, this sorry team is back to rebuilding. I said two years ago and I will say again that they need a basic goal for this team.  Not let quality pieces go causing chaos and player discontent. </p>
<p>Fire the whole damn front office. This is pathetic Cohan.</p>
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		<title>By: Drog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MT,

How can you say Raja Bell is healthy? He&#039;s playing through a bad wrist injury that will probably need surgery. 

As for Vlad, you seem to not think he plays any D. According to Hollinger&#039;s geek squad number crunchers he&#039;s an above average defender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MT,</p>
<p>How can you say Raja Bell is healthy? He&#8217;s playing through a bad wrist injury that will probably need surgery. </p>
<p>As for Vlad, you seem to not think he plays any D. According to Hollinger&#8217;s geek squad number crunchers he&#8217;s an above average defender.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Net reaction: Warriors send Cap&#8217;n Jack to Charlotte &#124; Sports News Images and Videos</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Net reaction: Warriors send Cap&#8217;n Jack to Charlotte &#124; Sports News Images and Videos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marcus Thompson, Inside The Warriors: &quot;The Warriors get three things they wanted in this deal: move Jackson, save money, players who can help. Jackson heads to the Eastern Conference and doesn&#8217;t help keep the Warriors out of the playoffs. Plus, guard Monta Ellis(notes) gets to take over the leadership role without Jackson&#8217;s influence (something the organization was worried about). The Warriors save about $5 million next year, more than $21 million overall. [...] Plus, considering their lack of healthy bodies, the Warriors get two guys who can help. Raja Bell even plays defense. The Warriors will need them to play in Cleveland. They&#8217;re down to seven players, six if C.J. Watson(notes) can&#8217;t play.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marcus Thompson, Inside The Warriors: &quot;The Warriors get three things they wanted in this deal: move Jackson, save money, players who can help. Jackson heads to the Eastern Conference and doesn&#8217;t help keep the Warriors out of the playoffs. Plus, guard Monta Ellis(notes) gets to take over the leadership role without Jackson&#8217;s influence (something the organization was worried about). The Warriors save about $5 million next year, more than $21 million overall. [...] Plus, considering their lack of healthy bodies, the Warriors get two guys who can help. Raja Bell even plays defense. The Warriors will need them to play in Cleveland. They&#8217;re down to seven players, six if C.J. Watson(notes) can&#8217;t play.&quot; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One small point to Rowell

you can&#039;t put stacks of dollar bills on the court and say, okay here&#039;s our lineup..

it&#039;s a players&#039; league....

we&#039;re gutted like a fish on the river beach....

no one left to watch....just a dyspeptic millionaire ego-mad coach

maybe Nelson, at his salary, should get a uni and try to guard somebody....be funny enough to buy tickets for...

it&#039;s sad, how far we&#039;ve fallen and now people want to talk about trading Monta and Biedrins.   what will we get back, another broken down one-dimenionsal Laker castoff from Europe and a smallish former Kobe-stopper?

it&#039;s a fire sale and only Jordan&#039;s Bobcats are stupid enough (or smart enough) to trade with us...

J-Rich for a kid named Wright?

prepare for the slaughter in Cleveland and watch the refs call fouls if anyone even breathes on Lebron.....

what a pathetic joke...

Cohan, please sell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One small point to Rowell</p>
<p>you can&#8217;t put stacks of dollar bills on the court and say, okay here&#8217;s our lineup..</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a players&#8217; league&#8230;.</p>
<p>we&#8217;re gutted like a fish on the river beach&#8230;.</p>
<p>no one left to watch&#8230;.just a dyspeptic millionaire ego-mad coach</p>
<p>maybe Nelson, at his salary, should get a uni and try to guard somebody&#8230;.be funny enough to buy tickets for&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s sad, how far we&#8217;ve fallen and now people want to talk about trading Monta and Biedrins.   what will we get back, another broken down one-dimenionsal Laker castoff from Europe and a smallish former Kobe-stopper?</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a fire sale and only Jordan&#8217;s Bobcats are stupid enough (or smart enough) to trade with us&#8230;</p>
<p>J-Rich for a kid named Wright?</p>
<p>prepare for the slaughter in Cleveland and watch the refs call fouls if anyone even breathes on Lebron&#8230;..</p>
<p>what a pathetic joke&#8230;</p>
<p>Cohan, please sell</p>
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		<title>By: kobe24</title>
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		<dc:creator>kobe24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bye-Bye Jax enjoy your short term exile to Charlotte... see ya in Cleveland next month! 

As for the Warriors, hey they finally got that BIG they been wanting so much... lol!!!

Rowell final broke his silence yesterday. What a joke!!!

This team might surprise some people if healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bye-Bye Jax enjoy your short term exile to Charlotte&#8230; see ya in Cleveland next month! </p>
<p>As for the Warriors, hey they finally got that BIG they been wanting so much&#8230; lol!!!</p>
<p>Rowell final broke his silence yesterday. What a joke!!!</p>
<p>This team might surprise some people if healthy.</p>
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