Monta Ellis Doesn’t Sound Happy
By Marcus Thompson
Monday, November 16th, 2009 at 9:27 pm in Uncategorized.
Here is Ellis’ take on the Stephen Jackson trade situation. Interesting to say the least.
What did you think when you found out?
“(laughs) It was amazing to me. I couldn’t believe it at first. It is what it is, man. I’m gonna miss him. We gonna miss him. I went to see him before he left. It seemed like he was happy. As long as he’s happy, I’m happy.”
How tough will it be to lose one of your best players?
“It was tough when we had him. (laughs) Losing him, it’s going to be tough. But we’ve got to find a way to get through it, man. I wish him the best. Now, it’s on us. That’s what they wanted, so they got it.”
Will you have to do more to make up for the loss?
“I’m not (going to) put no more on my back. Somebody else gonna have to step up. I’m not gonna do more, somebody else gonna have to step up and take on the role that Jack had and be that player. But I’m not putting no more extra on my back.”
Do you feel a need to be more vocal?
“Nope. Uh, uh. Not at all”
What do you guys lose with Jack gone?
“No. 1, besides his scoring and the ability to make the extra pass. What we’ve been emphasizing the whole time is defense. That’s one of our best defenders on the team. And we’re trying to get better as a defensive team. And now, who we got now that’s going to play defense? We got me. And who else?”
Raja Bell is a good defender
“I don’t know too much about dude. I mean (pause) it’s crazy, man.”
Jack was your best friend on the team. Will you bond with another teammate?
“I’m close to all my teammates. I’m still gonna do what we do. We’re going to hang out the way we’ve been hanging out. It ain’t going to be no different. We lost one of our close friends. That’s it. But, hey, life goes on. I’mma talk to him every day. He’s going to talk to me every day. Still going to be like he’s here. So I’m not tripping. Like I said, as long as he’s happy, I’m happy.”
So you’re happy. OK. Cool.
“I’m happy that he’s happy, yeah.”
But you’re not happy?
Yeah. I just said I’m happy that he’s happy. (Laughs)
What’s going to be the key going forward?
“Our young guys gotta pay more attention and learn the game more. They probably need to watch more film and sit back and really evaluate the game more, and better.”
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November 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Way to go, Marcus. Great to hear from our new “leader”. Any chance we can hear from some of the other players who are glad that Jackson is gone? Oh, i forgot – can’t write anything that might show support for the W’s organization…
November 16th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Wow, he really sounds like he’s interested in being a captain and leader on this team. Also, I realize the Bobcats are an Eastern Conference team, so the Warriors don’t play them very much, but isn’t it part of Monta’s job to have at least heard of Raja Bell and, you know, other guys who play in the league? It’s not like Bell’s a rookie. Monta played against him when he was on the Suns! What this tells me is that when I’m watching games and the Warriors look like they are woefully unprepared, it might actually be the case that some of them didn’t bother preparing all that much. Maybe it’s not just the young guys who need to study film.
Also that comment about his defense is amusing. I’m sure his teammates will be thrilled to hear how much better a defender Monta is than they are.
November 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
“I’m not (going to) put no more on my back. Somebody else gone have to step up. I’m not gonna do more, somebody else gone have to step up and take on the role that Jack had and be that player. But I’m not putting no more extra on my back.”
Now that’s a captain and leader of men. We’re so screwed!
November 16th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Spoken like a dumb apathetic hillbilly. Bell can school Monta on D any given night. Kid needs to shut up and play. Miss Jack’s ability to make the extra pass? Is that a joke? And Monta the Matador is preaching defense? Is he that stupid to know nothing of Bell and his reputation?
I’d be fine with Curry stepping up to lead there Monta. He actually wants to if the team will let him.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Monta I just lit your jersey on fire. Hand the keys of the team to someone who is willing to work for it. Someone willing to take the heat. Someone willing to push others while being pushed even harder back. Just because you’re playing an effin game for a living Monta doesn’t mean you act like a spoiled brat. Be a man, step up and take the reins of your first chance as a leader.
You overpaid, horribly tattooed, waste of breath.
Signed,
everyone who ever said they were a fan of you.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
The Warriors need to trade Monta and they need to shut him up before he looses his value as more teams discover how ignorant and dim he is. Seriously, some players no matter how good they are, could really benefit from College. Monta is the perfect example of why the League should mandate at least 3 years of college before you are eligible for the draft. Trade him! Invest in Curry, Morrow, Biedrins and Randolf.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
I agree with JrDub, Wow! Sounds like my 13 year old on $8,000,000 a year. I’m giving up the NBA and watching reality TV, it won’t cost as much and they are more in touch with the “real world”.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
dysfunction junction, what’s your function?
November 16th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
He hasn’t played defense in his life. Bell is a welcome replacement for a delusional Jackson…..Monta needs to keep his mouth shut until he does something on the court.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
what the hell is wrong with Monta? grow up, and get over it. yeah, we all know that management sucks, BUT JACKSON BEGGED TO BE TRADED. how are you going to act like management stabbed Jackson in the back by trading him?
And “make the extra pass”???? Jackson??? are you kidding me? often, he would just hold the ball and then force up a shot.
Raja Bell is a much better defender than Jackson (although Jackson had much better overall stats, of course).
November 16th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
‘Showcase’ Monta… green-light him, tell him to score whenever possible, pump up his value and then trade him.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
What’s more pathetic? Monta’s ignorant, juvenile comments or the fact that Nelson made him a captain? Warriors fans should start a public campaign to get NELSON TO RESIGN. Let’s publicly question his integrity and lack of interest in the team and insist that he do the right thing and resign. He doesn’t deserve ANOTHER penny from the Warriors and must realize that it’s time to leave. I just heard Larry Riley say that “Nellie is in a pretty good frame of mind” right now? Is he serious? Nellie wants to get fired. Period. Maybe they can fire him for breach of contract because he publicly admitted that he’s letting his Assistant Coaches coach the team. I’m sure this wasn’t part of his contract.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Monta is a great basketball player and I’m a big fan, but man! Now we know why he had to skip college. Ironically, he looked up to half brain Jackson. Actually, the smartest thing he might do is to defer the leaderships to Curry.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
wow. For all those people denying how similar Monta has become to Jack …. The transcript don’t lie.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Good riddance to the Mississippi dumbass!
November 16th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
What’s funny is if you go to youtube and type in “Monta Ellis Suns”, there are plenty of clips of Ellis playing right next to Raja Bell…
November 17th, 2009 at 2:04 am
i liked monta, but i hate to see him act like such a dumba$$. good thing baron, jason and jack didn’t act like this when monta wasn’t pulling his own in the playoffs, burying his face in a towel and had to have his mother come and console him.
now i admit management has had a lot to do with how much, or how little trust monta has with the FO, but in regards to his younger teammates – wow. how quickly one forgets what it was light to still be learning and growing into your roll.
and why does he think he’s such a threat on defense? does he look in the mirror and see bruce bowen? cause what i see is a guy who’s too small to defend bigger / stronger guards and often gets beat by players slower than he is.
one thing is for sure, jackson had an over-inflated image of himself and his worth and monta has already picked that up as well.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:07 am
This move is like the movie Groundhog Day and so typical of the Warriors since Cohen bought the team.
1. The team starts talking about why they need to trade a worthwhile player.
2. Player gets traded.
3. Fans say the team was right to trade “so and so” because “Whatever the team said in #1″
4. Net result… the other team gets the better of the deal adding more talent at the Warriors’ expense.
5. Cohen still has no incentive to sell team because he still gets his money from stupid fans who continue to buy tickets hoping for the team’s second play-off appearance during his 15 years of ownership.
Next season, Step #1 starts all over again.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:04 am
i don’t understand why many people picking on monta.It’s not his fault! It’s all Rowell,Nellie,and Cohan’s fault!
November 17th, 2009 at 5:34 am
Monta is heading down the wrong path. The path of a kid who got a huge contract then lost his humbleness, love for the game and his ability to grow as a human being. Unfortunately I doubt he will ever grow up, the money has changed him, Jackson set a bad example, his cronies are bad for him etc etc etc. But hope springs eternal here in the land of enchantment (golden state).
His interviews sound more and more like Jackson speaking. By the way Monta, we all believe you can play we just don’t believe you are a good team player or teammate.
Someday he may change, its just not going to be here. Lets continue cleaning house. Next up Monta Ellis, what could have been……
By the way the report on Jackson-40 seconds to go Charlotte down by 4, Brown designs a play for Jackson to get the ball at the top of the key, he gets it and proceeds to drive on Matt Barnes, gets a step on Barnes then blows an open layup-game over.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:03 am
It drives me crazy to be a Warriors fan, I’ve been one since the early 70′s. There is always a former Warrior all-star team out there. When players get paid the kind of money these guys do you would think the effort would match, but that is not the case. Listening to some of our Warriors talk you wonder if they could get a real job. Wow, and deese dudes make da millions?
November 17th, 2009 at 6:07 am
ha-ha-ha-ha Monta the matador!!!! That is great!!!
November 17th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Monta never really was humble. Don’t kid yourself.
My favorite: “Our young guys gotta pay more attention and learn the game more. They probably need to watch more film and sit back and really evaluate the game more, and better.”
LOL. True and yet so ironic.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:47 am
“No. 1, besides his scoring and the ability to make the extra pass.”-Monta on Jackson
What the hell game was Monta watching? make the extra pass? he only did it once during the 15 assist game, Jackson was more of an inhibitor and than someone who made the extra pass.
Ellis too needs to make the extra pass-
Monta is delusional. His takes on what is wrong with the team never include him or Jackson-its always the young guys-look in the mirror first.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:48 am
It clearly is a good move getting rid of Jackson. I think he rubbed off on Monta enough that Monta has a bad attitude. As Riley said in an interview yesterday, Monta has some growing to do and not having Jackson around is a step in the right direction. Sure they can talk everyday, but the negative influence will be limited.
Aside from Ellis, the remaining players are smart enough not to even go there. Magette will be a positive influence on Ellis. So far, I like what I see in Corey.
November 17th, 2009 at 7:00 am
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November 17th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Marcus:
In your opinion does this mean Azubuike is done being a warrior or is there a chance he would sign with them next year?
also – have you heard if the Ws now plan to grab someone from the D-League since KA is out? any names on the radar? what about Malik Hairston?
November 17th, 2009 at 7:42 am
“And now, who we got now that’s going to play defense? We got me. And who else?”
If you’re so good on defense…it shouldn’t have mattered if you line up next to Curry. But you sure made it a big deal before the season started before playing with him.
“They probably need to watch more film and sit back and really evaluate the game more, and better.”
…maybe you should watch more film so you can figure out things about the people you’re playing against…like when you played against Raja Bell…cuz you “don’t know too much about dude”…even though you play against them up to 4 times a season since you started in the league.
November 17th, 2009 at 7:58 am
From recent news I am reading it sounds like Raja Bell is reconsidering wrist surgery now that the trade has been made. Do you have any more info on this? It sounds like Raja may not want to play for GS this year.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Zeelurker is right on.
There seems to be a lot of sheeps on here. Man, am I missing something here? A lot of you guys chased BD away and now you are happy Jax is gone. Who the fck do we have left on our team that is any good that would start for any other playoff caliber team? Ellis was never meant to be a leader. He does best as a supporting cast like Pippen was to Jordan. That’s who he is. Old Nellie always end up outsmarting himself thinking he can make players into something other than himself. You sheeps deserve Nelllie and Cohan and another 15 years of misery. Keep on buying those tix boys and girls. Keep on.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Wow. I used to be so high on Monta… Now he’s just an under-sized SG with a bad attitude and no leadership qualities whatsoever.
Sure, everything is 99% managements fault things turned out this way. But we still don’t need attitude like that.
Trade him away, please.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:21 am
First off, Monta should have went to college…Secondly, when did he become Dwayne Wade? Him and Jackson are the ugly girls with the cute girl attitude…Finally, be shopping Monta in the meantime Riley
November 17th, 2009 at 8:23 am
I know Dwayne Wade…Monta Ellis, your NO Dwayne Wade…
November 17th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Sounds like Monta’s taken good notes from Jack. Criticize the team, talk about how much you don’t want to take responsibility as a leader, oh and talk down to the rest of your current and future teammates…I don’t even know if Jack did that last one.
Monta’s comments make him look pretty ignorant, but It’s really the management, Rowell, Cohan, and Nelson that deserve the true blame for killing the morale and chemistry of a once exciting team. Time to BOYCOTT the next homestand!!!
November 17th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Ellis sounds like a little unhappy boy who needs some schooling and direction in basketball too….
…..BOYCOTT…..
November 17th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Great work MT2 in getting Monta to open up.
Now, for your lead in about “interesting at least” is a softball. Monta’s superior and defensive attitude towards his team and teammate is anything but ‘interesting’. He clearly has no interest on being on the Dubs and his exit is inevitable. That, and/or Nelson leaving might do the trick. A new beginning. There is no hope whatsoever with Nelson as the coach because he will either get rid of everyone who gives him any shit or he will have to go. This is just like Webber all over again. The key/vet players are all acting out except Beans and Nero (Cohan/Rowell) is simply letting Rome burn.
Come on Marcus, play some hardball and tell it like it is. You are in the big leagues!
November 17th, 2009 at 9:14 am
great interview.
truth is montas just 1/2 a player.
no jump shot anymore.
is as fast as anyone.
plays no defense.
he rode the moped.
not robert rowell.
ruined our season.
how would you like to pay a guy for year and get no production,and than him have a bad attitude.
as a owner of a company i would hate to pay a guy
1.00$ a hour and not show up for a year and the next year comesback to talk crap.
basketball is fantasy and reality tv mixed up into 1 year long drama.only for the worst teams.
i d punch him in the eye and send him home.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:20 am
The drama continues….
November 17th, 2009 at 9:28 am
the last chapter in the monta ellis book ain’t gonna be very pretty…he needs someone to wake him up…he’ll be bouncing around like an old tennis ball once our clown act dumps him…the only thing that will keep this from happening when the big jerk sells the team and a van gundy type or a doc rivers comes in OR the w’s then pick up a well respected veteran type who can talk sense into him. not too smart for a young rich kid.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
See a pattern here? Anyone who has a problem w/ nelson is gone. Webber – gone, SJax – gone, Harrington – gone, Belinelli – gone, Crawford – gone, former player/gm Mullin – gone The one constant is nelson. He’s totally cannibalized this team.
The only silver lining is the dubs might not win another game denying fatty of his record. We could hope..
November 17th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Hey Marcus,
I usually hate reading proposed trades because everyone overvalues their own players and assumes the trade partners are idiots. That said, the ESPN trade machine is too much fun and I think this trade would work for both teams:
Monta & Speedy to Dallas for Josh Howard and Matt Carroll. Carroll seems to be completely useless and has a few years left on his contract so that would balance out the length of Monta’s contract.
Monta for Howard straight up would obviously be nice, but I don’t see why Dallas would do that deal.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Warriors are a joke. Time to put Monta on the trading block and get something of substance. Get John Wall in the draft. Build this team like it should be built.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I’m a Pistons fan, but Monta’s assertion that he’s the only defender left on the Warriors was so absurb that I had to vent somewhere. Someone needs to smack him in the face with a copy of the boxscore from the last game he played. You know the one where he let a rookie drop 55 on him. What an idiot. Sorry Warriors fans, hopefully by this time next year Monta and Nellie will be gone and you guys will be enjoying the upside of Randolph and Curry.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:52 am
He gone.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:55 am
To all the Golden State fans….I fell horrible for you. I’m a raptors fan and our disfunctions prior to Bryan Colangelo arriving are well documented… the disfunction in G State is really really sad. Hope things get better before Stephen heads to NY in 4 years…
November 17th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Trade Monta for Chris Paul!!!!
November 17th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Marcus: Thanks for this, and all of your postings. You are The Man for all things Warrior. No one else has the player access you enjoy.
As for Monta, his comments about Jack’s leaving are to be expected. If he did not express regret at the trading of Jack, he would be insulting Jack. Monta’s “no mas” attitude towards his role on the Warriors is just another in a long series of confirmations, from many sources, that he is not capable of being a leader.
If Raja Bell does not have wrist surgery, and instead joins the team, we should all be patient enough to allow him time to fit in as player. He might even become a quiet leader, at least for the one season that he’ll be here. He won’t have any competition for the job.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Ellis not happy? Hell I am none too happy either.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Hey, Monta – thanks for that defensive clinic you put on Brandon Jennings a few nights ago. I see your point that you are the only Warrior who can play defense.
When Monta said that Jackson was a guy who is able to make the extra pass he meant make the extra pass to Monta!
Can’t wait until Curry is leading the team. Monta is an undersized second fiddle.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I have no idea why everyone is so upset with Monta. If anyone of you were in his shoes you would feel the same way. Just because he makes “x” amount of dollars doesn’t mean he has to be happy. He has watched the Warriors go from one of the most exciting teams in the league to a league wide joke. He has watched the front office rip the team apart and basically get nothing in return. He watched as his coach and the front office basically stab Chris Mullin in the back and throw him overboard. He listened to Riley & Nelson (when the flew to Mississippi in the off season)as they told him that they would not draft a guard and then basically turn around and draft what looks to be his replacement. Why shouldn’t he be pissed? We as Warriors fans has suffered through this horrible mismanaged organization for years. Now imagine how bad it would be if we actually played on this team. And don’t give me the whole ‘he makes alot of money bs’ because he could still make that money on a good team. I feel your pain Monta. What can be worse than being a Warrior and Raider fan right now?
November 17th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
It is what it is, man.
November 17th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Who’s next to walk out the door? Maybe the W’s trade Monta, maybe they don’t. The same goes for Maggette. But, the W’s now have no way to keep Anthony Morrow; he’s a free agent. Raja Bell even if he plays or not this season will not stay in Golden State. C. J. Watson is also gone.
That leaves a core of Curry, Ellis, Azubuike, Randolph, Biedrins, Wright, and Turiaf; with Maggette and Radmanovic for next year. And they’re only playing because they have to.
Even with all the cap money available in the world, as long as Rowell is in charge and Nellie by association, who will want to play for the W’s?
In response to the trade of Stephen Jackson, Robert Rowell said, “I don’t want anybody here who doesn’t want to be here.” Well guess what Rowell… I think you, Nellie, and Riley better dust off your shorts and sneakers because in 2 seasons you may be starting.
November 17th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Brian F nailed it.
And Raja Bell is having surgery, according to ESPN. The W’s got nothing except cap relief from this deal. Imagine what they could have gotten if they still had Jackson and Harrington on expiring deals and then traded them!
November 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Monta welcomed his new teammate with the same warmth, thoughtfulness, and humility he showed the newly arrived Curry.
Some people want to deny that players ultimately have responsibility for their bad attitudes and lack of professionalism. Particularly in the context of such a dysfunctional organization as the dubs. But Stack ‘I’ll take any mofos money if he giving it away’ Jack caused problems with teams before the dubs and will eventually do so again with the Bobcats. The best thing an organization can do is find ways to moderate the self-defeating and destructive personalities of the talented players who possess such traits. I’m not sure the dubs have that ability as an organization but this in no way makes Monta less responsible for his inability to accept valid criticism, his narcissistic attitudes, and his thoughtlessness towards teammates. Those things are about the man, not the organization – no matter how bad it is. Most of the dubs players present themselves as good professionals and would be wherever they were played.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Monta Ellis and defence should not be used in the same sentence unless there is a negative connotation about his defensive play.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
ESPN reports Monta’s agent is meeting with Warrior brass Thursday. Great – can’t imagine what we’ll get for him, now that the league knows he wants out.
Both sides are wrong here – Monta for the ol “I won’t do any more” routine (Jackson made the “extra pass???” I must have missed that possession)and the Warriors, for talking out of both sides of their mouth – especially before the draft. Why would they fly to Mississippi, make a promise, then break it? They knew a point guard would fall in their lap.
Next up – Anthony Randolph …
November 17th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
im telling you…monta ellis, maggette, and 1st round pick for chris paul
November 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
What is that sound in the near distance…The Golden State Warriors completely imploding…Wow, you couldn’t write a script with a better armageddon scenario for a franchise… Wow…
Nelson has to go, he’s Godzilla loose in Tokyo right now, just destroying the franchise…
November 17th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
#27 Yulupan- That is funny, you are so right, the next pass from Jack always went to Monta- ha ha ha
November 17th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
The more Monte speaks out, the more he reveals his inadequacy in the I.Q. department.Maybe he needs to take a lesson in interview with S Curry!
November 17th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Fuck Monta we dont need him rebuild with curry randolph and beadrins he can go ride a mo ped off a cliff for all i care and take the retarded owner with him!
November 17th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Screw Monta we dont need him rebuild with curry morrow randolph and beadrins he can go ride a mo ped off a cliff for all i care and take the retarded owner with him!
November 17th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Last chance for Big Bob to call him the Mississippi bullet- disgusting we used to listen to Bill King and now we have this fool- I love complaining
November 17th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Brian F & JM95054 got it right, all the people posting on here are a little too sheepish for me. Everyone is trying to kill Monta now even though less than 2 yrs ago he was the best 6th man in the game and was the X-factor that no other team had an answer for. A lot of you guys are just ridiciulous about him not playing defense b/c that is what got him time when montgomery was here playing defense & that is what initially got him time when Nelson came back.
yes he has gone a way from it but that is because he has been asked to fufill a more offensive role in a new position that he has never really played. I just get sick of hearing everyone blame this situation on Monta and not on the people that it deserves to be placed on NELLIE and the FO. Ohh & dont give me that we already know the FO sucks cuz apparently you don’t since you think getting rid of Monta right now instead of a disinterested 70 yr old coach who doesn’t want to change & always lays waste to franchises within 3 yrs of being there is the right decision.
Also to all of you who think any of this cap space is going to be used or that any respectable FA is going to want to come here next yr you are in for a rude awaking. The only way the dubs can get anyone of substance is through trade and overpaying. That’s it, end of story. We are not a storied franchise, we don’t have solid leadership at the top, the only thing we can sell a player is that we have good fans. Really that is all we have to sell someone to make them want to come here. Oh and that last part I am becoming very suspect of because to many of these “Good Fans” just make excuses for an old coach and a crappy FO and are fine with the moves they make.
The real fans, who don’t drink the kool-aid and want a winning product out there, are the one’s really suffering because they see what’s going on & are trying to talk about it but get re-buffed at every opportunity by both dubs plants & homers alike b/c they are calling it how they see it through non-rose colored glasses & see the shadiness that is occurring.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
my bad about spacing, forgot to enter twice after my paragraphs..
November 17th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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November 17th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I don’t think any of the people who are criticizing Monta are praising Nellie or the FO. At least I’m not. I really don’t see why the two are mutually exclusive.
Nellie has lost his mind and cares only about getting his record. The FO is full of incompetent bubble heads who don’t know anything about basketball. And Monta, well, Monta is a kid who thinks he’s the man but clearly doesn’t know the first thing about being a man.
I’m sure there are things all of us don’t like about our jobs, but does that mean you go to the press and bitch and whine? Monta is supposed to be the leader of our team, a role he said he WANTED, is your supervisor supposed to go the press and talk about how incompetent you are? Let’s face it, anyone who behaved this way in the corporate world would be fired immediately.
And don’t kid yourself, Monta saying he’s the only guy who plays defense is a bad joke. One of Monta’s main deficiencies is that he’s an undersized two guard, which pretty much guarantees that he will be a defensive liability. And he doesn’t know who Raja Bell is? Maybe he should get to know who he is so he can learn how to play some d.
There is more than enough blame to go around here and there is absolutely no reason fans shouldn’t be able to assign Monta his fair share of it. I am hardly a Nellie apologist (in fact I’ll be the first to break out a bottle of champagne the day he quits) but that doesn’t mean I have to be a Monta apologist either.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Had Whack Jack actually made an extra pass any time except agains the Wolves, I might buy into Monta’s comments. But 3-14 was really tiring on a regular basis. (Particularly when it means missing a pass so you can stay behing the “jack line”.)
It’s unfortunate to say, but Monta’s clearly not interested in stepping up. Yeah, he has really worked to carry the team and I think his offensive presence the last week has really been great. He has stepped up on the floor and is doing the extra stuff. Rebounding, passing. It’s been really great to see him develop his game. Even if he’s struggling to see a friend go, if these are his true colors, how can you ever think you can build a team around him. Can’t. Just can’t.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
The Warriors should just pack it in and throw away the keys for this season.
They do not even have enough players against the Cavs tonight.
Thanks Nellie, Rowell, and company!!!
What a great time out!!!
November 17th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
why do any of you think and expect Monta to step up? Monta is at his best as a complement player on your team. Please stop all this talk about Monta being a leader and this is his team. he is not built to be THE GO TO GUY. They were stupid enough to think that he was to begin with. Everybody has their role. Monta IS NOT A GO TO GUY. Never been and never will be. That doesnt mean he can’t help your team a hell of a lot if you stop shipping key leaders on your team like….BD? HELLO?
November 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Jm95054 I think you’re missing the point, I don’t believe Monta is capable of being a leader either but that is the role he claimed to want. And just because you aren’t a leader isn’t a reason to act like a complete baby. Like I said, would his behavior be tolerated in any company other than the NBA? Nope. He would have been fired with cause.
November 17th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Monta, Randolph and Biedrins for Bosh and Bellinelli…let’s get a legitimate power forward, bring Marco back, and get rid of Monta. I hate to see Biedrins go, and Randolph…who knows? But with Brandon Wright coming back next year, and Bosh coming in, I’d do it…
November 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
[...] Monta pretty much threw down the gauntlet in an amazing interview with MTIII about the Stephen Jackson trade, where he promised to not to work any harder, ripped the [...]
November 17th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Joyce – How do you expect Monte to act when Cohen’s cronies have and continue to run the team into the ground always giving away more talent then they get every time they make a trade. How much leadership would you be able to provide on a team run by the three stooges (Cohen, Rowell & Larry Riley) that managed ONE play-off appearance in FIFTEEN seasons. Even the Clippers have made more play-off appearances over that time period.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Poor baby, 66mils are not enough. He needs somebody to kiss his azz constantly. Btw, reporters are kissing his azz daily but is not enough. He nees some more kissing. Poor baby
November 17th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Monte Ellis has never been a leader and has never wanted to be a leader. It is really scary how some of our African American athletes who come from humble beginnings, forget where they came from.
Monte is a very young player. I’ve said to myself and others ever since he came into this league, that I hope he keeps his head on straight. His potential was and is limitless.
His attitude is another story. Stephen Jackson is a cancer. He influences young players in the wrong way. That is the reason Larry Bird traded he and Harrington from the Pacers. Jackson poisoned Harrington and Bird feared that Danny Granger would be next. He has poisoned Monte.
I knew Monte was in trouble when he went from no tattoos to a full body armor of it. Tattoos don’t make you a bad guy but I just knew his attitude would be different. The moped fiasco was clearly a sign of his immaturity.
I will also say that the Dubs front office is to blame for a lot of this mess. We need a new owner, GM, coach, and team captain. Quality players will not come here until we get an entirely new front office and coach.
The best fans in the league desere better than allthis crying from millionaires!
November 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
nice hearing about defense from someone who got burned by a rookie. how many points was that? 55?
November 17th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
jay,
i dont think he can ever forget where he came from, i mean, he’s got it tattooed on his left arm. And tattoos dont change your attitude they just change how your skin looks. i’m sure he’s wanted his tats before he was legally and financially able to aquire them. but i definitely agree about the need for a Front-Office change. check out tim kawakamis article online and the posts. we should boycott these dumb rich bastards.
and Squall,
his tats are pretty badass, actually. they were done by a very good artist and have a nice flow to them. you must not have any. attacking a player for his play and a leadership on the court is one thing, but to go after a player for his physical appearance is pretty retarded. i mean, if anybody gives two shits about what other people think of their tats, they probably shouldnt get them in the first place. with that said, no one cares what you think.
-signed everybody who was ever named me.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
one more thing,
next year, Curry’s the leader whether he likes it or not and he’ll fill the role well. His teammates already recognize his skills and next year he wont be a rookie anymore so they wont deny him if and when he steps up. Biedrins is too soft to lead, Morrow has a lot of upside but i dont think he’s more of an all-around player than Curry, Randolph is too immature to lead and it seems it’ll stay that way for a while, Maggette is going to step up some but i dont know how much a guy who should be starting but isn’t can do to turn a team around, and CJ probably doesnt want to stick around after this year and who can blame him?
shit i might only be 5’8″ and i can’t touch rim but give me a jersey and put me in! lol
November 17th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
[...] in an interview with Marcus Thompson II of the Contra Costa Times: How tough will it be to lose one of your best [...]
November 17th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Joyce,
It’s you and the other minions on here missing the point. How much one makes is always relative. Say I make 50k per year right now. I gripe at my work. I bet you someone in Mexico is thinking I am an idiot for even griping at work while making 50k. You see how it is all relative?
You guys all pile up on him when it is mgmt’s fault. They should have never promoted him to be team leader nor expected him to do so. Monte is a complement player. It has been well documented that the front office staff has screwed everyone over. They blew up the ONLY TEAM TO MAKE A PLAYOFF IN 15 YEARS. When I was making 150k back in dotcom days, I was unhappy too with mgmt when they were screwing up. Was I supposed to just shut my mouth and pretend everything is fantastic so long as I collect my paycheck?
Case in point, how was that game tonite? NBA TV called out Nelson for basically throwing the game away at the end. Nelson didnt even bother to ask them to foul someone at the end. C WEbb and Mchale couldnt believe it themselves. But hey, i am sure it is all Monte’s fault too.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
One more thing, I am sure a lot of us would agree that in our early 20′s we were not the wisest. If the camera was on us all the time, we’d say something stupid at some point. The point is mgmt should have known better than rely on this kid to be the savior. He is not made to be a savior. Even AI was not a savior to his franchise. Monte aint no AI.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
This is not about Monta, or even Jackson. This really is about the Owner and his front office. The Warriors have literally become an NBA laughingstock. Columnists on ESPN, Yahoo!, CBS Sportsline, and other major news sites have harshly criticized and even poked fun at the ridiculous folly that goes on in Oakland.
I always wonder how men with careers in professional basketball could make so many obviously horrible decisions. If I can sit in my underwear on the couch and figure out the right moves to make, why can’t they?
How does a man who literally has 100′s of $millions$ invested in a franchise routinely make such inexplicably terrible choices?
Why doesn’t he fire Rowell? Doesn’t he read the papers? Doesn’t he watch the news? Surely Cohen must know that literally EVERYONE who knows anything about basketball thinks that Rowell has done nothing but destroy the Warriors.
Surely, Cohen sees that his once-promising, exciting and MARKETABLE team has been completely ripped apart, replaced by odd-and-end players who have expiring contracts. Since Rowell has been calling the shots, the team has:
1. Dissed a Warrior legend in Chris Mullin, kicked him out of town
2. Allowed Baron Davis, the franchise player to leave town because Rowell refused to give him a 4th year option on his contract extension
3. Traded Jason Richardson for a bust in BWright, then fail to use the $10 mil trade exception to improve the team
4. Make ridiculous contract/extension offers to undeserving players such as Elton Brand, Gilbert Arenas, Corey Magette and Stephen Jackson.
5. Continuously extend a coach who is notorious for his impatience and inconsistant treatment of rookies; while simultaneously trading away ALL veteran players.
Everyone who knows a thing about basketball can see that practically EVERY decision Rowell makes is the wrong one. Why cant Cohen see this? Why would Cohen allow Rowell to destroy his $400 million dollar investment?
Perhaps Cohen has some sort of leverage over Cohen. Maybe he’s blackmailing him. Maybe he knows someting about Cohen that he can’t afford to get out. Otherwise, it makes absolutely no sense that Rowell could still have Cohen’s confidence.
Please Warrior fans: BOYCOTT THIS TEAM. its the only way to force a sale. And a sale needs to happen soon, before Curry and Randolph’s careers are ruined.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
As a Laker fan, I don’t know how the hell you guys stomach rooting for your franchise.
I agree with this sentiment from Warrior fan “Jay” (11/17 @ 7:09 pm):
It is really scary how some of our African American athletes who come from humble beginnings, forget where they came from.
I agree with him that these dumb fucking niggers are outta control.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
jm95054…I think that you make some very valid points, but that does not excuse certain comments or behaviors or perspectives that Ellis has presented publicly, starting with his “I can’t play with Curry” stance (before he ever did) and all the way up to his comments yesterday of “I can’t do more…someone else has to step up”…sure, it’s not his fault that he’s being paid an ungodly sum of money, but there is, or should be some measure of responsibility, and maturity to live up to being paid that much, not to mention in the quality of his play…do you think he is measuring up? I don’t, and would just as soon see him gone for a real PROFESSIONAL. I love his game, or what his game was before the moped incident, but I don’t think he is back to that yet, and maybe never will be – and if he was bringing some intangibles to the team, like leadership, like maturity, then a slight drop off in his play could be better tolerated, but I don’t think he is doing any of these things. Let’s get something back for him, and move on.
November 18th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Dubfan,
Look I feel your pain. However, how many times have we seen unhappy Warriors go on and become stars on other teams? It’s maddening! I always go back to this. Hakeem Olajuwon wanted out of Houston. Swore he’d never play for them anymore. They stuck to their gun and guess what they ended up winning 2 championships with him. It is the responsibility of the owner to do what’s best for the team regardless of the player. Houston did it why coudlnt we. We are still paying the price for Mitch Richmond and C Webb after all these years. Imagine if we kept both of those guys. Dont even get me started for the 2007 roster that Nelson broke up.
ECJ,
You are dead on. I cannot fathom how someone like Cohan who makes a ton of money can be so stupid in running the W’s. Nelson’s track record has always been he manipulates and play mind games with everyone. This guy traded Richmond, Webber, and EVEN LET NASH GO.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:55 am
Hey Monte your our new problem, you don’t know how to pass and your to small for the 2 guard. I think its time to trade Monte give the point to Curry and lets get a real 2 in this line up. Yes, he scores 23 but he needs 20 shots to do it, and the turn overs, wow, somebody please tell him to quit leaving his feet and trying to pass. Curry is the real deal, this is a true point and he’s ready now, if the organization wants to be a contender they need to get a 4 or a 2 for Monte and do it this year well he has some value.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Hey MT2 get Emily Rose McKee’s comment off of here. Racism can’t be tolerated. How did that even make it through and get published?
November 18th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Post #84. Sad.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Monta and Mags’ for Chris Paul I agree!
Straight up, Monta doesn’t wanna be here.
#84 African Americans is the proper vocabulary.
November 18th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
EJC,
I couldn’t have said it better myself..Rowell must have incriminating photo’s of Cohan doing something very bad..Otherwise there is zero reason to allow this weasel to systematically destroy his investment..When Monte leaves for more expiring contracts, maybe that 9-72 record
is at hand..
November 18th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
[...] Warriors/Contra Costa Times (Marcus Thompson II): This was from Monday, before Tim’s post, but now serves to amplify the depths of Ellis’ frustration. Plus: Wrapup from the Cavaliers [...]
November 19th, 2009 at 3:50 am
that was a weird interview
January 17th, 2010 at 2:51 am
ellis that dumbass he makes me wanna vomit i’m sick of looking at that mindless look on his face he thinks he’s so great so monta if your so great why do u make stupid play after stupid play and you lose games too if wanna talk bout great monta talk bout mj rick barry wilt chamberlain or kareem abdul jabar oh wait you probly don’t know much bout those *dudes* etheir