Comments on: The Murphleavy Trade in (2+ Years of) Hindsight http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/ with Marcus Thompson Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:38:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mullin http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23784 Mullin Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:47:53 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23784 The BIG difference for the "We Believe" year was Baron Davis!!! Not Jackson, and definitely Not Harrington. The Warriors beat Dallas during that season before the trade; they had Dallas's number that year. Dunleavy was a great passer, but he didn't pull the trigger on shots enough; maybe Nelson messed him up too! The BIG difference for the “We Believe” year was Baron Davis!!!
Not Jackson, and definitely Not Harrington.
The Warriors beat Dallas during that season before the trade; they had Dallas’s number that year.
Dunleavy was a great passer, but he didn’t pull the trigger on shots enough; maybe Nelson messed him up too!

]]> By: Guero http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23771 Guero Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:25:03 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23771 Jose C had it right at #11. That trade has Nelson move written all over it, and at the time it looked the beginning of something. It was = the beginning of the end, as Nelson now tears apart another franchise. Seems to be his bigger passion (than winning, cigars, or scotch) = playing with a roster as if it were his fantasy team with no regard to the future beyond next week. This team is a mess. It's NOT one PF away from winning. Cohan must sell!!! Jose C had it right at #11. That trade has Nelson move written all over it, and at the time it looked the beginning of something. It was = the beginning of the end, as Nelson now tears apart another franchise. Seems to be his bigger passion (than winning, cigars, or scotch) = playing with a roster as if it were his fantasy team with no regard to the future beyond next week. This team is a mess. It’s NOT one PF away from winning. Cohan must sell!!!

]]> By: Mike W http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23765 Mike W Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:58:11 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23765 Without Jax's ridiculous extension, the deal was a talent upgrade (particularly for Nellie-ball) and a financial windfall for the Warriors. The day of the deal, I recall telling a few friends the relative cap-friendliness of Jax and AH's contracts made it a steal. Their play during the We Believe run was just a bonus... Without Jax’s ridiculous extension, the deal was a talent upgrade (particularly for Nellie-ball) and a financial windfall for the Warriors. The day of the deal, I recall telling a few friends the relative cap-friendliness of Jax and AH’s contracts made it a steal. Their play during the We Believe run was just a bonus…

]]> By: Mike http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23755 Mike Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:14:01 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23755 Even though the Warriors have bungled things since, the cap room they have is still better than having Dunleavey and Murphy and their long term deals. That assumes they end up giving that money to a better player, which, of course is doubtful. Even though the Warriors have bungled things since, the cap room they have is still better than having Dunleavey and Murphy and their long term deals. That assumes they end up giving that money to a better player, which, of course is doubtful.

]]> By: sincewilt http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23750 sincewilt Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:19:34 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23750 The Ws got the better of the trade, better players, but mismanaged them horribly. There wasno reason notto use Harrington at his natural position (3) and use Jackson as a swingman. Then the stupid Nelson stuff w/Harrington and the stupid office stuff with Jackson's contract/letting BD go etc led the Ws to squander it. The Ws got the better of the trade, better players, but mismanaged them horribly. There wasno reason notto use Harrington at his natural position (3) and use Jackson as a swingman. Then the stupid Nelson stuff w/Harrington and the stupid office stuff with Jackson’s contract/letting BD go etc led the Ws to squander it.

]]> By: Mountain Jim http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23744 Mountain Jim Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:24:05 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23744 The trade was right. Everything that went wrong after that has no roots in the trade, but in the front office. End of story. The trade was right. Everything that went wrong after that has no roots in the trade, but in the front office. End of story.

]]> By: Damon http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23742 Damon Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:39:13 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23742 Murphleavy was a dead end. Yes, I'd do the trade all over again, and it was well worth it. We got better when they left, the Pacers got worse when they got there. Case was closed with the playoff run. Murphleavy was a dead end. Yes, I’d do the trade all over again, and it was well worth it. We got better when they left, the Pacers got worse when they got there.
Case was closed with the playoff run.

]]> By: Leftshot http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23741 Leftshot Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:34:47 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23741 "the Pacers have solid veterans to bank on (at least when Dunleavy’s healthy)...and they appear to be closer to turning things around" Do you see the contradictions in your own statements?! Closer to turning things around when what they have are a team of veterans? Where is the upside there? "at least when Dunleavy's healthy"? But he hasn't been healthy. That's like making the case that the Warriors got the better deal 'until Jax blew up' or up until Harrington went sideways. You've got to deal with reality dude. Speaking of reality. With Dunleavy and Murphy's bad contracts the Warriors wouldn't have had the cap room to sign Ellis, or Biedrins or both. But you didn't factor that in either. “the Pacers have solid veterans to bank on (at least when Dunleavy’s healthy)…and they appear to be closer to turning things around”

Do you see the contradictions in your own statements?!

Closer to turning things around when what they have are a team of veterans? Where is the upside there?

“at least when Dunleavy’s healthy”? But he hasn’t been healthy. That’s like making the case that the Warriors got the better deal ‘until Jax blew up’ or up until Harrington went sideways. You’ve got to deal with reality dude.

Speaking of reality. With Dunleavy and Murphy’s bad contracts the Warriors wouldn’t have had the cap room to sign Ellis, or Biedrins or both. But you didn’t factor that in either.

]]> By: RCG http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23740 RCG Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:04:06 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23740 It was definitely worth it. I can't imagine watching that wretched W's team with Dunmurphy compared to We Believe. You still have to compare Dunmurphy to Harrington/Jackson and we won the trade hands down. As for what the W's FO management did with Al and Jack in subsequent trades...that's another matter. Excrement. But Bell is worth something if he comes back. It was definitely worth it. I can’t imagine watching that wretched W’s team with Dunmurphy compared to We Believe. You still have to compare Dunmurphy to Harrington/Jackson and we won the trade hands down. As for what the W’s FO management did with Al and Jack in subsequent trades…that’s another matter. Excrement. But Bell is worth something if he comes back.

]]> By: Optimis Prime http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/30/the-murphleavy-trade-in-2-years-of-hindsight/comment-page-1/#comment-23739 Optimis Prime Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:44:43 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/?p=1618#comment-23739 2+ Years later...still a no brainer. 2+ Years later…still a no brainer.

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