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	<title>Comments on: Game #20 (6-14): Thunder 104, Warriors 88</title>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s keep things in perspective, this was a win against an abysmal New Jersey Nets team........

I would hardly call anything about the win &quot;amazing&quot;...

Makes me wonder, I mean, New Jersey has some talented players, pretty good role players, hard to see why they struggle.

I mean, when you look at it, would you rather have Ellis and Randolph or Devin Harris and Brook Lopez?

I tell ya&#039; I&#039;m torn on that.......I might opt to start a team with Harris/Lopez over Ellis/Randolph...

Anyway, road trip continues......we have to remain consistent, not just win a few winnable games here and there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s keep things in perspective, this was a win against an abysmal New Jersey Nets team&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I would hardly call anything about the win &#8220;amazing&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Makes me wonder, I mean, New Jersey has some talented players, pretty good role players, hard to see why they struggle.</p>
<p>I mean, when you look at it, would you rather have Ellis and Randolph or Devin Harris and Brook Lopez?</p>
<p>I tell ya&#8217; I&#8217;m torn on that&#8230;&#8230;.I might opt to start a team with Harris/Lopez over Ellis/Randolph&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, road trip continues&#8230;&#8230;we have to remain consistent, not just win a few winnable games here and there.</p>
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		<title>By: A's in 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>A's in 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy win on the road for the W&#039;s eventhough Monta basically no-showed.  Amazing what happens when Monta passes to his &quot;suck ass&quot; teammates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy win on the road for the W&#8217;s eventhough Monta basically no-showed.  Amazing what happens when Monta passes to his &#8220;suck ass&#8221; teammates.</p>
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		<title>By: commish</title>
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		<dc:creator>commish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes all of this so silly is we are not going anywhere this year.  Nelson (makes me sick to even type his name) may not even get his record wins.  of course every game I root for a win so he can get his record and be kicked upstairs or whatever.  The org in no way can consider him coaching next year; oh, wait, maybe they will based on their track record of stupid is as stupid does.

Meanwhile, given we might not win 24 or 25 games, why not reign Monta in somewhat so other player can learn to play with and without him.  Not only would that be better for the team, the fans, but for his long term health.  If Monta actually believes he can carry THIS team into the playoff on his back, playing 48 mintutes a game, he has drunk far too much Jax laced lemonaide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes all of this so silly is we are not going anywhere this year.  Nelson (makes me sick to even type his name) may not even get his record wins.  of course every game I root for a win so he can get his record and be kicked upstairs or whatever.  The org in no way can consider him coaching next year; oh, wait, maybe they will based on their track record of stupid is as stupid does.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, given we might not win 24 or 25 games, why not reign Monta in somewhat so other player can learn to play with and without him.  Not only would that be better for the team, the fans, but for his long term health.  If Monta actually believes he can carry THIS team into the playoff on his back, playing 48 mintutes a game, he has drunk far too much Jax laced lemonaide.</p>
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		<title>By: earl monroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>earl monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should Curry just force his way to the ball or should the coaches force Monta to put the ball in Curry&#039;s hands? because leading the league in turnovers at a guard spot is not a good thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should Curry just force his way to the ball or should the coaches force Monta to put the ball in Curry&#8217;s hands? because leading the league in turnovers at a guard spot is not a good thing</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
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		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one questions that Monta is the best player by far but Marcus raises a legitimate point when saying that in order for the team to have any chance of winning he needs to do more to make his teammates better.  That might seem unfair but its an undeniable truth.  It&#039;s not like the others aren&#039;t capable of shooting efficiently (Morrow and CJ over .50, Maggs .47, Curry .45).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one questions that Monta is the best player by far but Marcus raises a legitimate point when saying that in order for the team to have any chance of winning he needs to do more to make his teammates better.  That might seem unfair but its an undeniable truth.  It&#8217;s not like the others aren&#8217;t capable of shooting efficiently (Morrow and CJ over .50, Maggs .47, Curry .45).</p>
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		<title>By: dubfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dubfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone bashing Monta for having the &quot;nerve&quot; to even discuss playoffs, well, what the hell else should he be thinking about?  If he made some comment about how they have no chance to make the playoffs and may as well give up, then you&#039;d no doubt start going off about what a loser he is for giving up and mailing it in...guess he just cannot win.  

With as decimated a team as I have EVER seen in one year so far (I hope there&#039;s no more to &quot;so far&quot;), Monta is carrying this team as much as any one player could...they&#039;ve been competitive in every game since Stack Jack left, except for when they played Denver and the Lakers, have even won a few unexpectedly and are not yet even CLOSE to being as full a roster as they will have this year...without Monta, they&#039;d be worse than the Nets.  Playoffs?  Okay, not very likely, but still don&#039;t you WANT your players to feel like they can win on any given night, and play like they can, and think like they can, and talk like they can?  Or do you want them to be give it up losers?  I&#039;d rather see the swagger (as long as they can back it up with at least reasonably competitive games) than to see them just packing it in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone bashing Monta for having the &#8220;nerve&#8221; to even discuss playoffs, well, what the hell else should he be thinking about?  If he made some comment about how they have no chance to make the playoffs and may as well give up, then you&#8217;d no doubt start going off about what a loser he is for giving up and mailing it in&#8230;guess he just cannot win.  </p>
<p>With as decimated a team as I have EVER seen in one year so far (I hope there&#8217;s no more to &#8220;so far&#8221;), Monta is carrying this team as much as any one player could&#8230;they&#8217;ve been competitive in every game since Stack Jack left, except for when they played Denver and the Lakers, have even won a few unexpectedly and are not yet even CLOSE to being as full a roster as they will have this year&#8230;without Monta, they&#8217;d be worse than the Nets.  Playoffs?  Okay, not very likely, but still don&#8217;t you WANT your players to feel like they can win on any given night, and play like they can, and think like they can, and talk like they can?  Or do you want them to be give it up losers?  I&#8217;d rather see the swagger (as long as they can back it up with at least reasonably competitive games) than to see them just packing it in.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t Airplane Rider Bob Fitzgerald in the Warriors forum-spamming scandal outings?

Burke was also one of those dweebs, as I recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Airplane Rider Bob Fitzgerald in the Warriors forum-spamming scandal outings?</p>
<p>Burke was also one of those dweebs, as I recall.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AirplaneRider, did you even watch the game, or just not paying attention to that matchup?  Monta was fantastic defensively against Durant.  I watched every time Durant got the ball.  Monta anticipated beautifully and beat Durant to the spot time and again, caused a bunch of turnovers, and got Durant so frustrated that he couldn&#039;t shoot over Monta, either.  Around the middle of the third quarter Fitzgerald said that Durant had only 5 points when Monta was guarding him, the rest when others were on him.  We can criticize Monta&#039;s offense but definitely not his defense in that game.  I agree that when he isn&#039;t motivated he gets careless on defense.  Monta&#039;s defensive ability against bigger guards/smallforwards should be a major story but nobody&#039;s noticing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AirplaneRider, did you even watch the game, or just not paying attention to that matchup?  Monta was fantastic defensively against Durant.  I watched every time Durant got the ball.  Monta anticipated beautifully and beat Durant to the spot time and again, caused a bunch of turnovers, and got Durant so frustrated that he couldn&#8217;t shoot over Monta, either.  Around the middle of the third quarter Fitzgerald said that Durant had only 5 points when Monta was guarding him, the rest when others were on him.  We can criticize Monta&#8217;s offense but definitely not his defense in that game.  I agree that when he isn&#8217;t motivated he gets careless on defense.  Monta&#8217;s defensive ability against bigger guards/smallforwards should be a major story but nobody&#8217;s noticing.</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just don&#039;t have enough guys rite now, period. IMO if AR was more consistent, that might have helped yesterday but we still would have lost. We didn&#039;t have Morrow and the rest of the guys just plain stunk it up except Curry. What could Smart have done? Why is he getting dumped on in this post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just don&#8217;t have enough guys rite now, period. IMO if AR was more consistent, that might have helped yesterday but we still would have lost. We didn&#8217;t have Morrow and the rest of the guys just plain stunk it up except Curry. What could Smart have done? Why is he getting dumped on in this post?</p>
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		<title>By: robert rowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert rowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure, dump on monta because the team around him sucks ass. they don&#039;t have a single player on their roster who could start on another nba team, half of them probably couldn&#039;t even make another roster. monta is averaging 40 minutes a game since the jax trade, the guy is spent. 

but that&#039;s the whole thing with the W&#039;s and their &quot;fans&quot;. blame the players and coach for the team assembled by the geniuses upstairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure, dump on monta because the team around him sucks ass. they don&#8217;t have a single player on their roster who could start on another nba team, half of them probably couldn&#8217;t even make another roster. monta is averaging 40 minutes a game since the jax trade, the guy is spent. </p>
<p>but that&#8217;s the whole thing with the W&#8217;s and their &#8220;fans&#8221;. blame the players and coach for the team assembled by the geniuses upstairs.</p>
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