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	<title>Comments on: Game #23 (7-16): Pistons 104, Warriors 95</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Cohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoo boy.
And we&#039;re back.

2007 was a blast.
We Be-left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoo boy.<br />
And we&#8217;re back.</p>
<p>2007 was a blast.<br />
We Be-left.</p>
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		<title>By: Harp's Dubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harp's Dubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monta and Randoplh to the Kings for Kevin Martin and Jason Thompson.
Maggette, Turiaf, Raja and Speedy to Houston for McGrady.

Both Sac and the Dubs backcourts that work better than the current ones in Monta/Tyreke and Curry/Martin (back in a few weeks from wrist surgery). Sac gets Randolph, who&#039;s a better complement to Hawes than Thompson (different body types and skill sets) and Warriors get Thompson to play along Biedrins (same scenario for us).

Trade with Houston nets the Rockets a center this year and a great backup when Yao returns next in Turiaf and provides them with a scorer off the bench in Maggette, while saving $10 million from Raja and Speedy this summer.  Warriors get McGrady (who feels he has a lot to prove) for the rest of the year and MAJOR cap room this summer - hello Joe Johnson!

Warriors
PG - Curry/Watson
SG - Martin/Morrow
SF - McGrady/George (Buike on IR)
PF - Thompson/Radmanovic (Wright in IR)
C - Biedrins/Moore/Hunter

Kings
PG - Evans/Udrih/Rodriguez
SG - Ellis/Garcia/Udoka
SF - Nocioni/Casspi/Greene
PF - Randolph/Brockman/Thomas
C - Hawes/May

Rockets
PG - Brooks/Lowry (Claxton on IR)
SG - Ariza/Maggette (Bell on IR)
SF - Battier/Budinger
PF - Scola/Landry/Dorsey
C - Turiaf/Hayes/Andersen (Yao on IR)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monta and Randoplh to the Kings for Kevin Martin and Jason Thompson.<br />
Maggette, Turiaf, Raja and Speedy to Houston for McGrady.</p>
<p>Both Sac and the Dubs backcourts that work better than the current ones in Monta/Tyreke and Curry/Martin (back in a few weeks from wrist surgery). Sac gets Randolph, who&#8217;s a better complement to Hawes than Thompson (different body types and skill sets) and Warriors get Thompson to play along Biedrins (same scenario for us).</p>
<p>Trade with Houston nets the Rockets a center this year and a great backup when Yao returns next in Turiaf and provides them with a scorer off the bench in Maggette, while saving $10 million from Raja and Speedy this summer.  Warriors get McGrady (who feels he has a lot to prove) for the rest of the year and MAJOR cap room this summer &#8211; hello Joe Johnson!</p>
<p>Warriors<br />
PG &#8211; Curry/Watson<br />
SG &#8211; Martin/Morrow<br />
SF &#8211; McGrady/George (Buike on IR)<br />
PF &#8211; Thompson/Radmanovic (Wright in IR)<br />
C &#8211; Biedrins/Moore/Hunter</p>
<p>Kings<br />
PG &#8211; Evans/Udrih/Rodriguez<br />
SG &#8211; Ellis/Garcia/Udoka<br />
SF &#8211; Nocioni/Casspi/Greene<br />
PF &#8211; Randolph/Brockman/Thomas<br />
C &#8211; Hawes/May</p>
<p>Rockets<br />
PG &#8211; Brooks/Lowry (Claxton on IR)<br />
SG &#8211; Ariza/Maggette (Bell on IR)<br />
SF &#8211; Battier/Budinger<br />
PF &#8211; Scola/Landry/Dorsey<br />
C &#8211; Turiaf/Hayes/Andersen (Yao on IR)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So um, Curry vs. Holiday suckers?

Uh huh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So um, Curry vs. Holiday suckers?</p>
<p>Uh huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my book, Curry is Devin Harris at his best....

Nash is too clever around the basket, he knows his way around the basket much better than Curry.....

But the way Devin Harris creates his mid-range game and pull-ups off his dribble, his overall range and his size and weight are exactly comparable to Stephen Curry.

So far, Curry has created from mid range more than he&#039;s gotten to the basket.  Guys like Nash and Parker are constantly in the paint, around the basket....

Curry, so far, with his takes, has either thrown up some errant shots or turned the ball over ......nothing great so far around the basket...no memorable &quot;And Ones&quot; or anything..........but that should change...

More so, both Devin Harris and Stephen Curry are really hybrid guards more than anything. However, I think that Curry&#039;s court vision and PG acumen is superior to Devin&#039;s.

But all in all, games are very similar.  

Most posters have failed to mention that the best PG in the draft probably hasn&#039;t even played a single NBA minute..........that&#039;s Ricky Rubio....

Rubio fit the mold of PG as good if not better than any other player drafted including Tyreke Evans.

Evans, Lawson are fantastic young players, no question about it.

Jennings is a scorer, plain and simple, that&#039;s what he is.

But I don&#039;t think we&#039;ve lost anything with Curry.  If Curry reaches his full development, we&#039;re looking at Devin Harris, 22-23 ppg, 6-8 apg....at his best.

One thing that Teague, Maynor, Lawson and Jennings have is that they play for good teams.  In the cases of Teague and Lawson, they each play for some of the best teams in the league.  Mike Woodson will often play Mike Bibby and Jeff Teague together,......allowing his young player to feel more comfortable with his minutes rather than worrying about his PT.

The nice thing is that all of these guys are playing consistently and are big parts of their prospective team&#039;s rotations.

I mean Ty Lawson is making a legitimate case for a  6th man position with that Denver squad.  He&#039;s getting to the basket, he&#039;s scoring, he&#039;s attacking.

Jennings is starting, Curry&#039;s starting, Evans is starting, all these guys are getting their fair shake.

That&#039;s the nice part about it, is that we see these guys getting an opportunity.

Funny how Curry is the only rookie that Nelson has given consistent PT to since he&#039;s been here.  Not AR, not BW, not POB, not Belinelli,...none of them, only Stephen Curry.

Because he realizes what most people already know is that Curry is the best offensive facilitator that this Golden State team has.  For all his faults so far, his turnovers, his lack of scoring......he will eventually develop into a Devin Harris type player.  A guy who can create for teammates, but a guy who&#039;s not scared to call his own number at the right time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my book, Curry is Devin Harris at his best&#8230;.</p>
<p>Nash is too clever around the basket, he knows his way around the basket much better than Curry&#8230;..</p>
<p>But the way Devin Harris creates his mid-range game and pull-ups off his dribble, his overall range and his size and weight are exactly comparable to Stephen Curry.</p>
<p>So far, Curry has created from mid range more than he&#8217;s gotten to the basket.  Guys like Nash and Parker are constantly in the paint, around the basket&#8230;.</p>
<p>Curry, so far, with his takes, has either thrown up some errant shots or turned the ball over &#8230;&#8230;nothing great so far around the basket&#8230;no memorable &#8220;And Ones&#8221; or anything&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.but that should change&#8230;</p>
<p>More so, both Devin Harris and Stephen Curry are really hybrid guards more than anything. However, I think that Curry&#8217;s court vision and PG acumen is superior to Devin&#8217;s.</p>
<p>But all in all, games are very similar.  </p>
<p>Most posters have failed to mention that the best PG in the draft probably hasn&#8217;t even played a single NBA minute&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.that&#8217;s Ricky Rubio&#8230;.</p>
<p>Rubio fit the mold of PG as good if not better than any other player drafted including Tyreke Evans.</p>
<p>Evans, Lawson are fantastic young players, no question about it.</p>
<p>Jennings is a scorer, plain and simple, that&#8217;s what he is.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve lost anything with Curry.  If Curry reaches his full development, we&#8217;re looking at Devin Harris, 22-23 ppg, 6-8 apg&#8230;.at his best.</p>
<p>One thing that Teague, Maynor, Lawson and Jennings have is that they play for good teams.  In the cases of Teague and Lawson, they each play for some of the best teams in the league.  Mike Woodson will often play Mike Bibby and Jeff Teague together,&#8230;&#8230;allowing his young player to feel more comfortable with his minutes rather than worrying about his PT.</p>
<p>The nice thing is that all of these guys are playing consistently and are big parts of their prospective team&#8217;s rotations.</p>
<p>I mean Ty Lawson is making a legitimate case for a  6th man position with that Denver squad.  He&#8217;s getting to the basket, he&#8217;s scoring, he&#8217;s attacking.</p>
<p>Jennings is starting, Curry&#8217;s starting, Evans is starting, all these guys are getting their fair shake.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the nice part about it, is that we see these guys getting an opportunity.</p>
<p>Funny how Curry is the only rookie that Nelson has given consistent PT to since he&#8217;s been here.  Not AR, not BW, not POB, not Belinelli,&#8230;none of them, only Stephen Curry.</p>
<p>Because he realizes what most people already know is that Curry is the best offensive facilitator that this Golden State team has.  For all his faults so far, his turnovers, his lack of scoring&#8230;&#8230;he will eventually develop into a Devin Harris type player.  A guy who can create for teammates, but a guy who&#8217;s not scared to call his own number at the right time.</p>
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		<title>By: earl monroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>earl monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris-I love it when you call me names-I think it means you care-ha ha ha......
how did you know my nickname was dwebo?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris-I love it when you call me names-I think it means you care-ha ha ha&#8230;&#8230;<br />
how did you know my nickname was dwebo?</p>
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		<title>By: deano</title>
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		<dc:creator>deano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[12,14,19: I agree that it is too early to pan GSW&#039;s pick of Curry. He shows a lot of potential as a leader; a guy who can help Randolph know where to be, for instance. At the time of the draft, I thought the Warriors should select Lawson. Lawson is having a great year, but in part because he is on a much better team than the Warriors. In three years, I think that Curry will probably be appreicably better than Lawson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12,14,19: I agree that it is too early to pan GSW&#8217;s pick of Curry. He shows a lot of potential as a leader; a guy who can help Randolph know where to be, for instance. At the time of the draft, I thought the Warriors should select Lawson. Lawson is having a great year, but in part because he is on a much better team than the Warriors. In three years, I think that Curry will probably be appreicably better than Lawson.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m shocked anyone would be upset with what they&#039;ve seen from Curry so far.  He looks like a more creative version of Sam Cassell but nice.  Curry consistently puts himself in position to make a play for himself or get open looks for others... isnt that exactly what they want him to do?  

He works extremely hard, has a natural feel for the game, and WANTS to get better.  Steph Curry will be a very good player in the NBA, possibly an All-Star.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked anyone would be upset with what they&#8217;ve seen from Curry so far.  He looks like a more creative version of Sam Cassell but nice.  Curry consistently puts himself in position to make a play for himself or get open looks for others&#8230; isnt that exactly what they want him to do?  </p>
<p>He works extremely hard, has a natural feel for the game, and WANTS to get better.  Steph Curry will be a very good player in the NBA, possibly an All-Star.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not vitriolic at all, dweebo.

Folks are just starting to think about Curry a bit after lapping up the talk points and nat&#039;l hype (spare me the Elite 8 story... long time ago now).  It&#039;s fine.  You&#039;ll get it like you did on Belinelli and Jackson.

S--twings is as s--twings do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not vitriolic at all, dweebo.</p>
<p>Folks are just starting to think about Curry a bit after lapping up the talk points and nat&#8217;l hype (spare me the Elite 8 story&#8230; long time ago now).  It&#8217;s fine.  You&#8217;ll get it like you did on Belinelli and Jackson.</p>
<p>S&#8211;twings is as s&#8211;twings do.</p>
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		<title>By: earl monroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>earl monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, just asked you a question Chris, such vitriolic criticism, deep stuff you are spewing out.  Perhaps you should compare Curry&#039;s stats to those of other point guards of the past in their first few months of their rookie seasons?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, just asked you a question Chris, such vitriolic criticism, deep stuff you are spewing out.  Perhaps you should compare Curry&#8217;s stats to those of other point guards of the past in their first few months of their rookie seasons?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, got the homers to look at stats!
Maybe they&#039;ll watch a game next!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, got the homers to look at stats!<br />
Maybe they&#8217;ll watch a game next!</p>
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