Comments on: Game #40 (12-28): Nuggets 123, Warriors 118 OT

By: Ken

Ken — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:01:30 +0000

Well, Nelson was vindicated when Tolliver made the very next 3 point shot he attempted (albeit it 46 hours later).

In any event, people cannot grasp that every point in the game COUNTS EQUALLY. Thus, the totally gratuitous 3 points given to Denver by Ellis were clearly the difference – the Ws would have won without OT.

BTW, I am definitely warming to Tolliver. His value is exactly the sort of thing that does not show up in the stats (much like Vlad Rad). Tolliver is always in the right place, and he is always paying 100% attention to what is going on. This is one reason that he has so many rebounds per minute.

By: Chris Shields

Chris Shields — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:21:28 +0000

“Not sure if Ellis’ shortcomings, lowlighted by his missed free throw late, is his fault.” MT

Monta homer.

By: earl monroe

earl monroe — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:32:04 +0000

Its very hard to finish games when you are exhausted, what I like about the team now as opposed to 13 games ago is that at least we are seeing some competitive spark. (no excuse for being anywhere near Lawson though, although Lawson clearly walked as evidenced on the replay)

By: Marcus Thompson

Marcus Thompson — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:14:37 +0000

Love the discussion. Last comment on this because I am not bashing Curry. Whatever criticisms I have about Curry’s game, I usually tell him. Ditto for the praises. The evidence is on NBA.com. The highlight video is on the box score. Curry is loafing in the paint while the ball is on the other side. Once the ball comes back to his side, he is held a bit by Nene as he tries to get out. Why not stay glued to a KNOWN SHOOTER when the game is on the line? To me, it was a mistake to drift into the lane, away from your man, who is known to make shots. It’s like OliverStone said. Curry is a help defender to a fault. That was a situation where they needed him to stay glued to his man.

Feltbot,
I’m not sure what’s worse. The fact that you think its OK not to call a timeout after a FT, like so many other coaches do, or that you think it is OK to call a play that gets ANTHONY TOLLIVER open for a look.
By the way, did I bash Monta? He made a mistake, too. Probably the most critical. Is pointing out a mistake equivalent to bashing?

Greg Ballard,
I don’t know. But Saint or Muss or any other Warriors coach wasn’t making $6 million. Am I the only one who thinks being close is not enough? Pushing a good team to the brink doesn’t get you a cookie. Being in the game against a team that is coasting until the fourth quarter is just not impressive to me.

Seriously, though. Great discussion

By: rigged

rigged — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:46:51 +0000

#19

Translation: DAN got burned by George Karl on that play sequence

By: Mountain Jim

Mountain Jim — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:56:05 +0000

There’s a huge difference between calling a timeout with 22 seconds, when one option would be to go for a quick two and foul, and 4.5 seconds when you have to have a three or lose. It’s disingenuous to treat those situations as the same thing.

By: earl monroe

earl monroe — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:53:39 +0000

#18 Cohan is anti-Curry because most of the stuff he spews out is ill written, poorly researched, way off base and usually of a personal nature especially when it comes to Curry-the name calling of Curry is way unnecessary. Not to mention the way he has
put Curry under a microscope for every mistake-without regard for his positive attributes.

By: OliverStone

OliverStone — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:28:22 +0000

Marcus, Jim Barnett on the Curry play, did say that while he was late in popping out on Smith, “Curry was held by Nene.”

Curry is the best “Help defender” on the team, to a fault. That play was an example.

By: Marques8

Marques8 — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:51:47 +0000

It was amazing to me how close the Nuggets and Warriors were in the head to head stats before the game. With the exception or rebounding, they were mirror images. Marcus is off on their defense in his mid-seasons. That’s such an easy rap. Compared to some other Don Nelson teams, this team plays its concept pretty well. Its guards are so small and so overworked that guys like Chauncey, Kobey, are going to eat them alive. But if they had a better big man who played in a more classic way in getting rebounds and blocking shots, a lot of things would get better in a hurry on the defensive end. As for the rebounding, it goes with playing small. Against the Nuggets, it looked to me all those rebounds were hitting the floor because everyone was tired. The new power forward might have helped and then again he might have hurt.

I don’t think any other coach in the league would get more wins out of this team. The failure to execute in the final minutes is really not on the coaching. It’s on the floor and the fact that they really don’t have a take-charge point guard. That hurts them most in closing them out.

Monta needs to work harder on making his mates better.

By: Greg Ballard fan

Greg Ballard fan — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:44:17 +0000

Hey Marcus,

Are the W’s even in the ballgame if Saint, Musselhead, or Monty is coaching? I think Nellie is holding the fort with what he has. Now management decisions… that’s another issue.