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		<title>By: Whack-A-Dub</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2010/02/11/move-over-monta/comment-page-2/#comment-24996</link>
		<dc:creator>Whack-A-Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perry, Turiaf at the PF is not for scoring. If we ever have a scoring big, it won&#039;t be anyone we have on this roster now. Turiaf is at the PF for a shotblocking presence. And so is Whiteside. Who would you rather have at PF, a guy like Turiaf to throw off the soft PFs in the league like Gasol or Nowitzki and actually guard stronger players like Scola and Garnett. 
And yes, I think we should start a bunch of rookies...
we&#039;re just starting to play Stephen more and look at what he is bringing to the game. Turner is a much better SG than Monta, an undersized, turnover prone, stephon marbury type of player. Even for his minutes...
4 turovers a game is inexcusable for someone 5 years into the league. And Maggette, goes around, committing turnovers, screwing up the chemistry, volume shooting, and those &quot;invisible&quot; missed layups that Nellie never complains about aren&#039;t hurting the Warriors? Are you serious? We&#039;re better off starting Turner next year, he is a VERY effecient player and I think we need to give him the same experience Stephen had, instead of playing them limited minutes. Morrow at the 3 spot has put up great numbers.

I&#039;m tired of signing unreliable, inefficient players, looking to use the W&#039;s as a cooldown in their career(i.e, the Webber retirement program), but the fact that Riley said Monta is untouchable is complete bull. Get rid of Ellis and Magette, anyone that thinks starting Morrow and Curry is &quot;depressing&quot; us is just underestimating this team&#039;s chemistry without Fagette and Monturnover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry, Turiaf at the PF is not for scoring. If we ever have a scoring big, it won&#8217;t be anyone we have on this roster now. Turiaf is at the PF for a shotblocking presence. And so is Whiteside. Who would you rather have at PF, a guy like Turiaf to throw off the soft PFs in the league like Gasol or Nowitzki and actually guard stronger players like Scola and Garnett.<br />
And yes, I think we should start a bunch of rookies&#8230;<br />
we&#8217;re just starting to play Stephen more and look at what he is bringing to the game. Turner is a much better SG than Monta, an undersized, turnover prone, stephon marbury type of player. Even for his minutes&#8230;<br />
4 turovers a game is inexcusable for someone 5 years into the league. And Maggette, goes around, committing turnovers, screwing up the chemistry, volume shooting, and those &#8220;invisible&#8221; missed layups that Nellie never complains about aren&#8217;t hurting the Warriors? Are you serious? We&#8217;re better off starting Turner next year, he is a VERY effecient player and I think we need to give him the same experience Stephen had, instead of playing them limited minutes. Morrow at the 3 spot has put up great numbers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of signing unreliable, inefficient players, looking to use the W&#8217;s as a cooldown in their career(i.e, the Webber retirement program), but the fact that Riley said Monta is untouchable is complete bull. Get rid of Ellis and Magette, anyone that thinks starting Morrow and Curry is &#8220;depressing&#8221; us is just underestimating this team&#8217;s chemistry without Fagette and Monturnover.</p>
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		<title>By: MR.FJG_SON</title>
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		<dc:creator>MR.FJG_SON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice Perry, whack-a-dub seems to be following the kool-aid PR dept model...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice Perry, whack-a-dub seems to be following the kool-aid PR dept model&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2010/02/11/move-over-monta/comment-page-2/#comment-24985</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any  starting 5 that features Ronny Turiaf would be well-suited for the &quot;All Homeless&quot; team of the Bay Area Red Cross chapters........

Turiaf has absolutely &quot;0&quot; offensive game yet &quot;Whack-A-Dub&quot; wants to start him at the 4 against guys like Gasol, Stoudemire and Aldridge.

I wouldn&#039;t start Turiaf in a Church League......

Teams like the Lakers, Denver, Portland, San Antonio, Utah and Dallas would laugh at your starting 5 &quot;Whack-a-Dub&quot;........

I want to improve this team, not depress it further.......

The problem is that this organization has no foresight to see a good thing comin&#039;........

Where was Riley in the Carl Landry sweepstakes...........was he anywhere to be found?

Isn&#039;t  Larry Riley supposed to be aware of situations like that and aggressively pursue them?

All we got was the Ellis/Mayo offer from Memphis?

Come on, Larry, how come Sacramento was able to swing a scoring, rebounding front court player in Landry and we&#039;re still sitting here with our dicks in our hands?

Even the Camby deal makes sense for the Clippers.....they add a veteran PG in Blake and couple that with a hard-nosed, scoring role player in Travis Outlaw......

Where were the Warriors with Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison?

The Riley/Nelson tandem is as bad as when Nelson was GM and Coach in his first stint with the Warriors in the mid 90&#039;s.........it&#039;s as bad as St. Jean and Twardzik.........

We have made 0 improvement and have regressed even further.

Yet some of you guys want to start a bunch of rookies and Ronny Turiaf.....I just don&#039;t understand it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any  starting 5 that features Ronny Turiaf would be well-suited for the &#8220;All Homeless&#8221; team of the Bay Area Red Cross chapters&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Turiaf has absolutely &#8220;0&#8243; offensive game yet &#8220;Whack-A-Dub&#8221; wants to start him at the 4 against guys like Gasol, Stoudemire and Aldridge.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t start Turiaf in a Church League&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Teams like the Lakers, Denver, Portland, San Antonio, Utah and Dallas would laugh at your starting 5 &#8220;Whack-a-Dub&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I want to improve this team, not depress it further&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>The problem is that this organization has no foresight to see a good thing comin&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Where was Riley in the Carl Landry sweepstakes&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..was he anywhere to be found?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t  Larry Riley supposed to be aware of situations like that and aggressively pursue them?</p>
<p>All we got was the Ellis/Mayo offer from Memphis?</p>
<p>Come on, Larry, how come Sacramento was able to swing a scoring, rebounding front court player in Landry and we&#8217;re still sitting here with our dicks in our hands?</p>
<p>Even the Camby deal makes sense for the Clippers&#8230;..they add a veteran PG in Blake and couple that with a hard-nosed, scoring role player in Travis Outlaw&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Where were the Warriors with Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison?</p>
<p>The Riley/Nelson tandem is as bad as when Nelson was GM and Coach in his first stint with the Warriors in the mid 90&#8242;s&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s as bad as St. Jean and Twardzik&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>We have made 0 improvement and have regressed even further.</p>
<p>Yet some of you guys want to start a bunch of rookies and Ronny Turiaf&#8230;..I just don&#8217;t understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Whack-A-Dub</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2010/02/11/move-over-monta/comment-page-2/#comment-24984</link>
		<dc:creator>Whack-A-Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anybody notice that if we get the #2 pick and land Turner, we can build the franchise off Run TMC?
(Turner-Morrow(not Monta)-Curry) 
1-Curry
2-Turner (give us some size at that spot, finally)
3-Morrow (2-0 at that spot)
And next year, we trade Monta, Corey, and Biedrins for whoever gets the #1 pick. And then we get Hassan Whiteside

1-Curry
2-Turner
3-Morrow/Randolph
4-Turiaf/Wright(Wright if we&#039;re facing a european team and can afford no muscle)
5-Whiteside (who is the next bynum-howard guy)/Turiaf (the only thing we have close at this point.
We need a steal in this draft, I wish they traded somebody like Monta or Magette for a pick... minnesota has 3 first round picks this year
one lottery, we could have used picks later in the draft,and gotten Aldrich or Patterson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody notice that if we get the #2 pick and land Turner, we can build the franchise off Run TMC?<br />
(Turner-Morrow(not Monta)-Curry)<br />
1-Curry<br />
2-Turner (give us some size at that spot, finally)<br />
3-Morrow (2-0 at that spot)<br />
And next year, we trade Monta, Corey, and Biedrins for whoever gets the #1 pick. And then we get Hassan Whiteside</p>
<p>1-Curry<br />
2-Turner<br />
3-Morrow/Randolph<br />
4-Turiaf/Wright(Wright if we&#8217;re facing a european team and can afford no muscle)<br />
5-Whiteside (who is the next bynum-howard guy)/Turiaf (the only thing we have close at this point.<br />
We need a steal in this draft, I wish they traded somebody like Monta or Magette for a pick&#8230; minnesota has 3 first round picks this year<br />
one lottery, we could have used picks later in the draft,and gotten Aldrich or Patterson</p>
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		<title>By: Whack-A-Dub</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2010/02/11/move-over-monta/comment-page-2/#comment-24979</link>
		<dc:creator>Whack-A-Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fillmore...he&#039;s a bad decision maker. He averages 4 turnovers a game. Rookies don&#039;t average that much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fillmore&#8230;he&#8217;s a bad decision maker. He averages 4 turnovers a game. Rookies don&#8217;t average that much.</p>
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		<title>By: D-Ball</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2010/02/11/move-over-monta/comment-page-2/#comment-24974</link>
		<dc:creator>D-Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totally overlooked by all is that the Warriors now rebound a lot better with Biedrens and Turiaf healthy and Tolliver in the lineup. That allows them to push the ball and not have to rely on the half-court sets with Monte or Corey trying to create. Tolliver is key here as he actually boxes out - if he does not get the rebound and outlet quickly, then it helps a guard get the rebound and take off down the court.
Both Monte and Magette will benefit from that. Last night they had as many rebounds as Sacto when they were totally outrebounded in previous games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally overlooked by all is that the Warriors now rebound a lot better with Biedrens and Turiaf healthy and Tolliver in the lineup. That allows them to push the ball and not have to rely on the half-court sets with Monte or Corey trying to create. Tolliver is key here as he actually boxes out &#8211; if he does not get the rebound and outlet quickly, then it helps a guard get the rebound and take off down the court.<br />
Both Monte and Magette will benefit from that. Last night they had as many rebounds as Sacto when they were totally outrebounded in previous games.</p>
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		<title>By: fillmoe mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>fillmoe mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why are you people so easy to give up on a proven efficient scorer that&#039;s not even 25 yet....I&#039;m not saying monta is perfect but that&#039;s the beauty of it..he has room to improve...the warriors shud let curry run the show and setup ellis...as far as the draft goes....the more and more I see demarcus cousins the more I like him...he&#039;s  big and he has real solid post moves...we shud really thinking about taking him he 7&#039;0 tall 275!!!trade biendris asap...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you people so easy to give up on a proven efficient scorer that&#8217;s not even 25 yet&#8230;.I&#8217;m not saying monta is perfect but that&#8217;s the beauty of it..he has room to improve&#8230;the warriors shud let curry run the show and setup ellis&#8230;as far as the draft goes&#8230;.the more and more I see demarcus cousins the more I like him&#8230;he&#8217;s  big and he has real solid post moves&#8230;we shud really thinking about taking him he 7&#8217;0 tall 275!!!trade biendris asap&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2010/02/11/move-over-monta/comment-page-2/#comment-24971</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a great idea, take the ball out of Monta,s hands. He doesn&#039;t pass the ball and he doesn&#039;t trust his team mates at all. He believes that he must force up a shot in order for the team to score. I have watched him game after game this year just make stupid plays because he won&#039;t pass the ball. I watch Morrow and CJ as well as other&#039;s just standing around and watching Monta force shots and then make a stupid foul because he didn&#039;t get a foul call when he drives to the basket. And all of the CHARGES he gets is really STUPID on he part. He needs to grow up and learn how to play as a team mate. I BELIEVE THE BEST THING TO DO NOW IS TRADE MONTA AND BEDRUIS AND TRY TO GET A STRONG CENTER OR POWER FORWARD, THEN DRAFT A CENTER NEXT YEAR.  The team we have when all are healthy can be a playoff team if we can trade these two guys or get a good draft pick next year and get a big man to help Turiaf. Then I think this team would be fun to watch and should be a good playoff team.....................]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great idea, take the ball out of Monta,s hands. He doesn&#8217;t pass the ball and he doesn&#8217;t trust his team mates at all. He believes that he must force up a shot in order for the team to score. I have watched him game after game this year just make stupid plays because he won&#8217;t pass the ball. I watch Morrow and CJ as well as other&#8217;s just standing around and watching Monta force shots and then make a stupid foul because he didn&#8217;t get a foul call when he drives to the basket. And all of the CHARGES he gets is really STUPID on he part. He needs to grow up and learn how to play as a team mate. I BELIEVE THE BEST THING TO DO NOW IS TRADE MONTA AND BEDRUIS AND TRY TO GET A STRONG CENTER OR POWER FORWARD, THEN DRAFT A CENTER NEXT YEAR.  The team we have when all are healthy can be a playoff team if we can trade these two guys or get a good draft pick next year and get a big man to help Turiaf. Then I think this team would be fun to watch and should be a good playoff team&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Whack-A-Dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whack-A-Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats my point, raju. As soon as we get Evan Turner the Monta era is over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats my point, raju. As soon as we get Evan Turner the Monta era is over.</p>
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		<title>By: raju</title>
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		<dc:creator>raju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monta is probably not going to be traded. Magette is. Ellis is not a good scorer if he takes 39 shots and has 36 points. Ellis’ role on this team is bad. Curry is the 7th rookie or so in NBA history to do what he did, and Curry makes the team better. When did Tolliver have 29 with Monta in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monta is probably not going to be traded. Magette is. Ellis is not a good scorer if he takes 39 shots and has 36 points. Ellis’ role on this team is bad. Curry is the 7th rookie or so in NBA history to do what he did, and Curry makes the team better. When did Tolliver have 29 with Monta in?</p>
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