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Chris Bosh Vents After Loss to Warriors

I wasn’t in the Toronto locker room after the game, so this is all courtesy of other reporters. But this is some good stuff. Not sure how often he says this stuff, but it sounds like he is quite fed up. Losing to the Warriors by double digits just doesn’t sit well with him.

The Raptors now hold the No. 8 seed in the Eastern Conference. Not too long ago they were No. 5. If Chicago gets its act together down the stretch, Toronto could miss the postseason all together. That certainly isn’t the way to convince Bosh to stick around.

“We’re not playing basketball the way we need to. I guess for some reason, we don’t like to secure a lead and we don’t like to win basketball games.”

“That’s the only thing I can think of. We come out here, we talk about it, we have a billion meetings. We can talk all we want. Unless we do it, it really doesn’t matter. We talk about the third quarter. We talked about the third quarter uesterday. We talked about it at shootaround today. And we go out and do the same thing. So I don’t know. We just lack execution.”

“Just do it. Act like you care. You know, we need to do the things that win. We don’t do the things that win. I’m going down playing offense on their side of the basketball court and their bench is louder than we are. That doesn’t make any sense. They’re not playing for anything. We’re trying to make the playoffs. We’re maybe trying to get a fifth seed, but that’s like slipping every day. We can’t even tell. This isn’t playoff basketball. We’re supposed to be gearing up for the playoffs. Their bench and players are more active than ours is. They get more stops. They get more offensive rebounds. Everybody’s doing everything.”

“It’s like if you look on the schedule right now and see Toronto, I’m sure people are checking something in the win box. I can understand if we lose the game going down fighting. We’re not fighting at all.”

“It ain’t confidence. You just play. If you got feelings and stuff like that, this isn’t the sport for you. Plain and simple. The real world isn’t for you if you have too many feelings. If somebody’s hurting your feelings, you go out there and you play basketball and you play tough because nobody cares about how you feel. Nobody cares if you’re on a 10-game losing streak. Nobody cares if you’re on the road. The only think people care about is if you win a basketball game. That’s it.”

“I don’t know. I’m glad I’m not the coach. I wouldn’t know what to do either. I don’t know how many times you can change it, how many speeches you can give. I don’t know how many lineup changes there can be. I don’t know. The coaches can only do so much. We have to take control of this team because time is ticking and it’s counting down and if we keep playing like we are right now, we’re going to be on the outside looking in.”

Marcus Thompson

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    Monta and Randolph for Bosh

  • Twinkie defense

    Monta and Randolph for Bosh.

  • Twinkie defense

    You can say that again!

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    free agent ^

  • A’s in 2010

    They like their Europeans in Toronto.

    Biedrins and Donatas Motiejunas for Bosh.

    IF… we don’t get Turner or Wall that is.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    A’s, are you serious? Let them draft Motiejunas.

    And Wall is overrated. No way, if we dont go 2nd, and we go 3rd and cousins is still there, we get cousins, not another european flop.

    And I hope everyone took a good look on how hollow Bosh’s numbers are: 24 and 11? If I had to guess based on his impact on the game I would say he had around 12 and 6, not 24 and 11. This guy is like David Lee: knows how to get his nightly, without winning.

  • nunya

    As someone who has watched every game Bosh has played for the last 7 years, I can only say that whack-a-dub is right about Bosh…he is the only constant over the 7 years of mediocrity as he has a knack for disappearing in the crunch (in the season or a game). He has no leadership drive and is waiting for a LeBron just like everyone else (but he’s arrogant enough to think he’s on the same level as LeBron). Triano and Bosh combined are disastrous as they are both second bananas waiting to be saved. At least the Warriors are WARRIORS, the Raptors are RuPauls…they reflect the personality of their “leader”. Bosh is great…as a sidekick for a dominant player.

  • roblaz

    Mr Bosh should take a hard look in the mirror. He has a big share of the blame. The Raps were going full speed towards the playoffs when he unilaterally decided (over a minor sprained ankle) not to play for 4 games. He announced to the team that he was not playing until he felt ready. He skipped the road trip, to stay In Toronto with his new girlfriend (BTW from NEW YORK).
    Was THIS his way to flex his muscles to send a monetary message to Bryan Colangelo?
    Was this just puppy love for a demanding new girlfriend?
    Nobody will never know. A true leader would have played, a true leader would have traveled with his team.
    Sorry Mr. Bosh, this falls on your shoulders too. You abandoned the ship when it was stating the course. You are thinking only of yourself, you are not a leader.

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  • Buckets

    Ya your right whack-a-dub, gets his 25 a night and has his team in the playoff hunt… something the warriors would know nothing about. That sounds pretty hollow to me.

  • dan

    hey let’s fire the coach because he is not doing his job. Bosh said it best players know the team can not fire them so they don’t care and the coach can only do so much. The players get paid mils to not care.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    I hope Bosh’s frustration makes him leave. Magette/Ellis for him would be a good sign/trade.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Although his performance yesterday was alarming. He had a great stat line. I was surprised. I would have guessed he would have around 11 and 7 considering how much of an impact he had on the game.

  • dan

    I am watching Celts and Cavs right now, the celts look slow and old so is that Doc’s fault? Doc is the same guy who won when his players were younger and better. In pro sports, coaches need to have talent or they ain’t gonna do sh!t.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Dan, Don Nelson is a different issue. Do not compare a great coaching staff in Doc Rivers/Tom Thibadeau to this crap combo on Nellie/Smart that encourage our players to “play as hard as they can” and if they get the win, it’s a plus…what BS

  • robert rowell

    uh, isn’t bosh a UFA? how the hell do you propose trading for him, genius?

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Robert Rowell, I just said it. Get Bosh to want to play for us, then do a sign and trade. Get him to sign with the raptors just for them to trade with us so we can get him…duh. That’s what I meant by sign/trade.

  • dan

    Doc was almost fired when he had Al jefferson and the kids. You guys dont know sh!t except blaming the coaches. What did Phil Jackson before Stern gifted them Pau Gasol ? The Fakers could not get out of the first rounds w/o Gasol and Kobe knew it so he stireed up a firstorm.

    Nelson should retire because he is too old, not because he can not coach. Nelson also has eyes for talent unlike many GMs. Nelson should go when he gets the record. Did Nelson look stupid when he had Dirk and Nash? of course, not, all Nelson had to do was give the ball to Nash. The Ws don’t have Nash and Dirk.

    You guys don’t know sh!t about BB. Coaches don’t do sh!t when they have no talent. Morrow is a scrub. Randolph will never be a star. Biedins is too skinny.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Dan, of course Nellie is too old…but nay decent GM knows talent…Nellie had Dirk and Nash, but guess what

    Nash sucked till he got traded and played under KJ.

    Morrow is not a scrub. Randolph has a huge upside.
    Biedrins, yes is trash, but Nellie is too old to actually want to win for anything but the record…

  • dan

    Nelson took a chance on Nash when no other GM did. He spotted Dirk when no other GM did. Nelson also drafted Hardaway when other GM passed on him. I am not defending Nelson but the man’s resume does show he can coach and GM too. It is easy to trash Nelson when the team is losing all the time but Nelson can coach when he has talented players but he is too old for the everyday grind now. The W’s need an infusion of talent or they will never go far.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Dan, did you forget the millions of flops he wanted?

  • dan

    so you expect all GM to be perfect? it does not matter as long as you can get 1 or 2 or 3 great players. Bill Walsh screwed up plenty but he drafted some great players so his record will always be perfect, right ? All GM have drafted flops, many in fact but the key is how many great players they did draft. Sloan was almost fired too until Utah drafted Williams and Boozer decided to sign with them. Nelson has had a very good record compared to other GM/coaches. Nelson did get Sid Moncrief, Richmond, Hardaway, Dirk etc…altho none would be a HOF player except Dirk. YOu want to blame Nelson, fine go ehead but look at the man’s resume. Nelson rebuilt that Dallas team before Cuban took over from Ross Perot. The Mavs was even worse than the Ws now. It is easy now to trash him because he is at the end of his career and the W’s are not winning but don’t forget they won when Baron Davis was here and Nelson was the only coach who could get Davis to play most nights. Look at his resume before spewing garbages.

    Should Nelson be credited for “discovering” Ellis and Biedrins? They both did not do sh!t before Nelson came back, right? You guys like many uninformed stooges wanted to blame coaches. Yes, the ownership situation must be resolved before any forward progress can be made but don’t blindly blame Nelson alone.

  • http://baysportsblood.wordpress.com http://baysportsblood.wordpress.com/

    I’ll take Bosh if we can keep Curry, Morrow, and either Randolph or Wright in the process. I would not strip my team to make him the centerpiece. However, I would sign him if we could. But really if you are that good why can’t you get your team into the playoffs in an extremely weak eastern conference?

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Dan, the team was completely unfundamental back in the Baron days. We won because we made shots, similar to now. We didn’t even take good shots, we didn’t play defense. We pushed the ball and made shots. That’s it. Yes, we had a solid playoff line with Baron-Monta-Richardson-Jackson-Harrington-Biedrins. But it was fundamentally flawed. We need a team with talent like Curry, that plays defense with a real defensive coach, not Nellie’s “entertaining” run-and-gun hopeful squad.

    If Nellie had the same record and was working to preach defense to young players and they are not buying into it yet, then he would be a good coach. But encouraging them to f#ck around during games and try to win is just poisonous to young, talented players like Curry, Randolph, Morrow, and Turner(next year). We need a real coach that can actually build a team with these young guys, not spoil their futures…

  • dan

    The W’s are not winning now so how can you compare to the Davis team? You must be fvking nuts.

  • dan

    oh btw according to you, Morrow is not a scrub so who should get credit for “discovering” or “developing” him ? remmeber now Morrow was not drafted by anyone.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    “I’ll take Bosh if we can keep Curry, Morrow, and either Randolph or Wright in the process. I would not strip my team to make him the centerpiece. However, I would sign him if we could. But really if you are that good why can’t you get your team into the playoffs in an extremely weak eastern conference?”

    http://baysportsblood.wordpress.com/

    Exactly. Bosh isn’t that good. He’s a better version of Michael Beasley. Like Thaddeus Young is a better version of Randolph…but not a superstar…

    Like Steinmetz said, Bosh would be good on a team where he was the 2nd go-to-guy, i.e, the olympics…but on a team like the W’s the only good thing he would do is attract another big name, i.e, Amare.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Dan, Mullin found Randolph and Morrow before he was fired. Nellie just kept him.

    I’m not comparing this team to the Davis’ team…but it’s the same system. It does not work. I guarentee you if we find a coach that preaches defense we will see the best out of Curry, Turner, Morrow, Azubuike, Randolph, Wright, and Turner.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Dan, Mullin found Randolph and Morrow before he was fired. Nellie just kept him.

    I’m not comparing this team to the Davis’ team…but it’s the same system. It does not work. I guarentee you if we find a coach that preaches defense we will see the best out of Curry, Turner, Morrow, Azubuike, Randolph and Wright.

  • TownLove

    Bosh definitely gets swept up in the Wade, Mellow, Lebron Draft hype. The guy is good, but he is not a super star. Last night was the perfect illustration. We have absolutely no front court, he should have been dominating. He settles for WAY too many jumpers. Dont get me wrong Id love to have him on my team, but he is not the end all answer to a team.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Townlove, exactly. Bosh is basically the better shooting version of Lamar Odom. He would give us a great point forward, which we would probably already get in Turner, but I think he would definitely benefit us in some way. Of course, it would be even better if we could sign Boozer along with him. Curry-Turner-Randolph-Boozer-Bosh
    or Curry-Azubuike-Turner-Boozer-Bosh
    Not a perfect team for a ring, but it would get us to the playoffs.

    But I still think we would need a solid 2 to go with Turner, who is basically Scottie pippen…

    Maybe Danny Granger?

    Idk.

    Or put Turner at the 2 and sign Rudy Gay to fill the 3.

    Orrr…the cap limit goes up by 20 mil next year and we sign Amare.

    Curry-Turner-Boozer-Stoudamire-Bosh

    Bosh can guard bigs, and we can suck them out if they try to zone on us with them.

    Then we need a sixth man:

    Manu Ginobili
    (we really shouldn’t have traded crawford)

    The problem is these guys are all 15+ mil minimum.
    They’ll probably sign for less because we have so many names involves, but they’ll have to settle for sub 15 mil contracts and one will need an extension.

    So basically, it’s pretty impossible to have a playoff team when bosh is as hungry as every other FA for a big contract, especially when most of the players aren’t worth much.

  • Mark Tha Truth

    @Everyone
    Just want to say that Bosh is a solid #2 much like Pau Gasol is for the Lakers. He can get a team to the playoffs but that squad won’t go very far with him as the number 1 guy…With that said, he is a great player not a good player and his numbers are not inflated…If ur judging Bosh on his recent game against the Warriors then u are making a mistake! He just came back from injury and has not looked like his usual self…I’m from Toronto and I’ve watched almost every game this season and bosh has been a beast! Trust me If he joins Lebron(Or Wade) in NY (if that actullay happens) You will see how many people will be talking about how great he is just like gasol! Pau has been playing like that for years but when your squad is weak nobody cares. And point forward option? Really? Bosh is DEFF NOT a point forward so get that out of your head! Bosh and Odem are both finess players but Odem has a WAY better handle and a better passer than bosh but CB4 has more of a scorers mentality than Odem. Also much like your warriors the raptors are allergic to defence and that is why we are where we are right now in the standings. You can’t blame bosh for calderon, hedo and andreas suspect D. So just to sum it up I do agree with the “number 2″ label for bosh but he is deff in the top 3 power forwards in the leauge on a nighley basis (Dirk, Pau,Bosh…And yes he is ahead of Duncan and KG at this point in his career)

  • ALsMouthGuard

    whack-a-dub i need whatever you are on.

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  • deano

    Bosh is frustrated because he is a great player who cannot control the game. He complains that his team talks right and plays wrong. Presumeably, he thinks that he plays right; but he knows that’s not enough. Great as he is, he knows that he cannot make his team win. This frustates him.

    The Warriors’ win over Toronto is a reminder that a player’s ability to influence the outcome of a game is dependent as much on his position as on his talent. Chris Bosh cannot make the Raptors winners, because he does not handle the ball. Jose Calderon, subbing at point guard for Jarret Jack, had a more positive impact on Toronto than Bosh.

    For the Warriors, the key player is obviously Curry. He is the one guy who makes his teamates better. If we get Bosh over the summer, Curry will make him a better player. In deciding who to give up in any trade for a low post scorer, GSW needs to remember that Curry will still be the catalyst; and, that if we keep Randolph and/or Wright, they will both be better players than they have been in the past because Curry is now running the team.

  • Jeremy

    I eat this s**t up. Bosh calling out all his wimpy teammates for being garbage is what a true leader does. Man up and execute or I’m out is what he’s telling everyone in the org. Bye bye meal ticket.

    Also to all the dreamers out there, this is another reason Bosh ain’t comin here. I’m sure some think his compliments of their bench is sign he’d be open to playing for this team, but it’s not. He wants to win, and win now. He’s going to Chicago, or Miami, or somewhere else where he can win now.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Jeremy, he’s going to Miami. He orginally said he and all the free agents would stay in their places, but now that has changed.

  • sartre

    I’m glad he’s not coming to the dubs. He can take his moronic macho bs elsewhere. The dubs have a fine group of players who seek to support and inspire each other rather than bully or publicly call others out. The effort we see on the court testifies to its value.

  • TownLove

    Whack-A-Dub,

    Turner as Scottie Pippen that’s an interesting comparison. He looks like a Point Forward, which Nelly absolutely loves. Some say Turner is no more than a st8 PG.

    Turner is good, but my vote is still Cousins. If he stays in College (highly unlikely) he would be the 1st overall pick in the 2011 draft EASILY. Might as well get him now while everyone is distracted by Wall.

    We are deperate for some front court help. AR and Biendris both looked like they regressed this year. Hopefully it was a fluke year, but they both will be big question marks next year. Especially coming off injuries. Dubs can use a rebounding machine..BAD.

  • dengel1925

    I’m looking at the Warriors roster,lookng forward to next year

    Draft Pick #1
    Draft Pick #2
    Azabuicke
    Bell
    Biedrins
    Curry
    Ellis
    George
    Hunter
    Magette
    Morrow
    Radmanovich
    Randolph
    Tolliver
    Turiaf
    Williams
    Wright

    Now, which of those would you gladly give up? Biedrins and Radmanovich for sure and probably Geoge because of age. That leaves 14 players that are probably worth keeping.

    Doesn’t look all that bad to me.

  • Jeremy

    dengel

    Bell- FA
    George- FA
    Williams- FA
    Tolliver- FA
    Hunter- FA
    Watson- FA
    Morrow- Restricted FA
    Azubuike- Player Termination Option

    It’s possible none of them could be back….

  • dengel1925

    Yeah. And Watson will be hardest to keep.

  • TownLove

    Can’t see Buike using terminating option coming off an injured year

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Townlove, if we actually take Cousins over Turner, it will be bowie over jordan all over again

  • Hook Mitchell

    When we drafted Randolph I was excited of the possibility of playing bidriens wright and randoplh front court unleashe.

    All lefty long lanky front court can create match up problems at times.

    Now it looks like that might not ever happen

  • Jeremy

    Townlove

    and no one could imagine Baron giving up $16M or whatever it was to terminate early either. Buike may just decide he doesn’t want to play here. Remember he, like Watson, tried to sign elsewhere but was a restricted FA and the Warriors brought him back.

    Dengel

    There is zero chance Watson returns. He was furious the Warriors brought him back in the first place. He should be the backup PG to Nelson in Orlando priming for a title run… instead he’s toiling away on the bench for the 3rd worst team in basketball.

  • robert rowell

    if you think any big UFA is gonna come here, you need to put down the crack pipe. what in this franchise’s history do you not get? rewind in your mind the last 16 years and realize that the only way the dubs can possibly get better is through the draft. then developing and keeping the players, which they have little track record of doing as well.

    don’t hold your breath on this one.

    god, if i had a nickel for every february-august crack-pipe-dream post some you have made throughout the years as “if we just convince lebron and melo to come here” or “trade mugsy and speedy for DWade” i would be a very rich man and build a very nice drug rehab center for you all.

  • slimman

    The Warriors are a joke, and the 17K+ people who buy tickets to the games are to blame. I have not purchased a ticket in over a year because I want Cohan/Rowell run out of town. The ownership is a joke, yet 17K+ morons keep buying tickets. Why would you pay to watch that crap? I understand that 3 of the 4 sellouts this year were for the Lakers X2 and the LeBron game, but still. Until I read the headline that those assclowns are no longer running the team I am not even watching on TV anymore. What’s the point? There’s a 10% chance they may pull out a win? Please.

  • slimman

    And, as far as all of those FA’s leaving town that is exactly what Rowell and Cohan want, so they do not have to pay them. They can then field a team of D-Leaguers for the minimum salary and idiots will still pay top dollar to “root for the underdog.” It is infuriating.

  • Whack-A-Dub

    Rowell,you’re right. Watson is pissed at the W’s and wants to leave. He stopped feeding Stephen via kickouts and Steph took a while to adjust. He’s probably the most valuable role player in free agency in 2010.

    Slimman, who the hell has gone to a W’s game in the past year? I don’t even want to see Stephen Curry live.
    I’d be happy to watch the Dubs play after Cohan cuts this “loyalty package” crap and just sells them for a price that isn’t as ridiculous at 400mil.

    Of course Cohan and Rowell want us to f*cking buy tickets. Oh, even with the f*cking economy our fans are so loyal…you dumbass it has nothing to do with the economy-they just f*cking hate you and this tran wreck organization.

    And WHY is it even a question that Curry is the best thing that has happened this year? He’s the best thing that happened in the past 16 years, hopefully we don’t draft Wall with the 1st pick and attempt to build a crappy organization around a f*cking calipari “point guard”.

    Marcus, you’re sad for letting them just do sh*t to you, like “suggesting” that if we get the 1st pick, we should try something fancy like try to trade down instead of f*cking drafting the best player this sh*thole of an organization could ever see in Evan Turner. Curry-Turner would attract Ellison, possibly.

    It would be our way out, and for the next few years we would have sold out games instead of bullsh*t like “the loyalty disf*cking count” What bullsh*t

    Let’s try to cut it down to 10,000people a game next year with the f*cking loyalty sh*t.