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		<title>By: deano</title>
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		<dc:creator>deano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perry: Thanks for the history. You make good points about recent turnarounds. The Blazers benefited from several years of losing records, luck in the lottery and high draft picks that were wisely used. The Lakers and Celtics got their Championships after they used marquee players aleady on the roster (Kobe; Pierce and Allen) to attract that one additional star that put them over the top (Gasol; KG). 

Maybe the Warriors can draft as well this year as they did last. Maybe Curry is enough of a marquee player to attract an All-Star free agent. The Celtics used Al Jefferson to get KG. Maybe GSW can use Ellis, or Biedrins, or Maggette, and/or its draft pick to get an All-Star low post player (Jefferson, again?). Maybe, maybe, maybe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry: Thanks for the history. You make good points about recent turnarounds. The Blazers benefited from several years of losing records, luck in the lottery and high draft picks that were wisely used. The Lakers and Celtics got their Championships after they used marquee players aleady on the roster (Kobe; Pierce and Allen) to attract that one additional star that put them over the top (Gasol; KG). </p>
<p>Maybe the Warriors can draft as well this year as they did last. Maybe Curry is enough of a marquee player to attract an All-Star free agent. The Celtics used Al Jefferson to get KG. Maybe GSW can use Ellis, or Biedrins, or Maggette, and/or its draft pick to get an All-Star low post player (Jefferson, again?). Maybe, maybe, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was pleased to read Monte Poole&#039;s last article regarding the OKC Thunder turnaround and the comparison to the Golden State Warriors and their continuing struggles.....

Usually, Monte Poole just picks a black athlete, then puts him on a pedestal and winds up writing an article with a bunch of big words but no content.  

Monte Poole is probably one of the biggest &#039;pro-black, anti-white&#039; media people in the Bay Area.

Anyway, all that aside..........I like the article.

I feel the same way.

Let me draw you some comparisons:

Let&#039;s go back to the 2007 &quot;We Believe&quot; playoff push.  We went 16-5 down the stretch and needed a win against a bad Portland team on the last night of the regular season to clinch a playoff berth.

That Portland team that we beat already had Brandon Roy.  This was a team that had a worse record than the &quot;We Believe&quot; Golden State squad.

Now, Portland, at full strength, is one of the tougher teams in the Western Conference due to diligent ownership, drafting and vision while the Golden State Warriors are the laughing stock of the league.

Next, lets look at the 2006-2007 Boston Celtics, a year before KG and Ray Allen and what seemed to be Doc Rivers&#039; and Danny Ainge&#039;s curtain call in the league.

Both Ainge and Rivers were left holding their nutsacks with 60 losses following that 2006-2007 season; while the Warriors were beating Dallas in the first round.  

That 2006-2007 Boston Celtics team was herrendous.........they were worse than the current Warriors.  &#039;Doc&#039; Rivers was on the verge of losing his medical degree.........

The very next season, Boston wins the title.

Next example, the Lakers.

The &quot;We Believe&quot; playoff team had the exact same record as the Lakers that season.  The Lakers lost to Phoenix in the 1st round while Golden State moved to the 2nd round in 2007.

The Warriors and Lakers of 2006-2007 were about equal, believe it or not.  Go back and look at the records and the tape.

Remember this, that before the Lakers acquired Gasol, they were a good team, but certainly nowhere near a great team or a Championship contender.

My point being, that every single team in this league, good or bad, seems to have a direction and purpose while we&#039;re still struggling with 60 losses and the lottery.

It only takes 1 player in many cases:  KG, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol.....what 3 players have had a bigger impact on their perspective new teams over the past 5 years moreso than those guys?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pleased to read Monte Poole&#8217;s last article regarding the OKC Thunder turnaround and the comparison to the Golden State Warriors and their continuing struggles&#8230;..</p>
<p>Usually, Monte Poole just picks a black athlete, then puts him on a pedestal and winds up writing an article with a bunch of big words but no content.  </p>
<p>Monte Poole is probably one of the biggest &#8216;pro-black, anti-white&#8217; media people in the Bay Area.</p>
<p>Anyway, all that aside&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I like the article.</p>
<p>I feel the same way.</p>
<p>Let me draw you some comparisons:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go back to the 2007 &#8220;We Believe&#8221; playoff push.  We went 16-5 down the stretch and needed a win against a bad Portland team on the last night of the regular season to clinch a playoff berth.</p>
<p>That Portland team that we beat already had Brandon Roy.  This was a team that had a worse record than the &#8220;We Believe&#8221; Golden State squad.</p>
<p>Now, Portland, at full strength, is one of the tougher teams in the Western Conference due to diligent ownership, drafting and vision while the Golden State Warriors are the laughing stock of the league.</p>
<p>Next, lets look at the 2006-2007 Boston Celtics, a year before KG and Ray Allen and what seemed to be Doc Rivers&#8217; and Danny Ainge&#8217;s curtain call in the league.</p>
<p>Both Ainge and Rivers were left holding their nutsacks with 60 losses following that 2006-2007 season; while the Warriors were beating Dallas in the first round.  </p>
<p>That 2006-2007 Boston Celtics team was herrendous&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;they were worse than the current Warriors.  &#8216;Doc&#8217; Rivers was on the verge of losing his medical degree&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>The very next season, Boston wins the title.</p>
<p>Next example, the Lakers.</p>
<p>The &#8220;We Believe&#8221; playoff team had the exact same record as the Lakers that season.  The Lakers lost to Phoenix in the 1st round while Golden State moved to the 2nd round in 2007.</p>
<p>The Warriors and Lakers of 2006-2007 were about equal, believe it or not.  Go back and look at the records and the tape.</p>
<p>Remember this, that before the Lakers acquired Gasol, they were a good team, but certainly nowhere near a great team or a Championship contender.</p>
<p>My point being, that every single team in this league, good or bad, seems to have a direction and purpose while we&#8217;re still struggling with 60 losses and the lottery.</p>
<p>It only takes 1 player in many cases:  KG, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol&#8230;..what 3 players have had a bigger impact on their perspective new teams over the past 5 years moreso than those guys?</p>
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		<title>By: petaluman</title>
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		<dc:creator>petaluman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus,
Thanks for posting an even-handed account of the players reflecting in the aftermath of this historic event.  As a Warriors fan, I&#039;m ambivalent about the record itself, as Nelson coached on several other teams as well.

On court, though, it appears these last 2 wins were the most emotional for the team since &quot;We Believe&quot;.  Seeing the players&#039; joy, it was clear they took a lot of pride in being part of setting an all-time record.  To do so must have seemed almost beyond imagining to this year&#039;s call-ups.

We&#039;ve had a miserable season.  We still have a lot of question marks about our young players, even when healthy.  I&#039;m glad at least some of them had an opportunity to experience winning meaningful games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,<br />
Thanks for posting an even-handed account of the players reflecting in the aftermath of this historic event.  As a Warriors fan, I&#8217;m ambivalent about the record itself, as Nelson coached on several other teams as well.</p>
<p>On court, though, it appears these last 2 wins were the most emotional for the team since &#8220;We Believe&#8221;.  Seeing the players&#8217; joy, it was clear they took a lot of pride in being part of setting an all-time record.  To do so must have seemed almost beyond imagining to this year&#8217;s call-ups.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had a miserable season.  We still have a lot of question marks about our young players, even when healthy.  I&#8217;m glad at least some of them had an opportunity to experience winning meaningful games.</p>
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		<title>By: TownLove</title>
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		<dc:creator>TownLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big Props to Nelly.  I hope they keep him around. He actually makes basketball fun 2 watch]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Props to Nelly.  I hope they keep him around. He actually makes basketball fun 2 watch</p>
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		<title>By: Double R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a nice accomplishment, but ultimately will not mean anything.  Nellie will only be remembered for the devastation he caused at every stop in his career.  For the limited success, he&#039;s managed to mishandle almost every aspect of his responsbility.  He&#039;s befriended and then fired coaches (George Karl), he&#039;s aliented star players (Chris Weber, Stephen Jackson, Monta Ellis), and poisoned front offices (Chris Mullin, Mark Cuban).  I will admit that at times it&#039;s been fun to watch and follow the Warriors but over the course of Nellie&#039;s tenure the team has become a train-wreck that continues to jump the track at every turn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a nice accomplishment, but ultimately will not mean anything.  Nellie will only be remembered for the devastation he caused at every stop in his career.  For the limited success, he&#8217;s managed to mishandle almost every aspect of his responsbility.  He&#8217;s befriended and then fired coaches (George Karl), he&#8217;s aliented star players (Chris Weber, Stephen Jackson, Monta Ellis), and poisoned front offices (Chris Mullin, Mark Cuban).  I will admit that at times it&#8217;s been fun to watch and follow the Warriors but over the course of Nellie&#8217;s tenure the team has become a train-wreck that continues to jump the track at every turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Whack-A-Dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whack-A-Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some guy:
Of course we need to draft someone? Where have you been the last 3 months when we said the SAME thing over and over. We just need to hit on THIS draft. We have to consider that we technically hit on Randolph, we sure as hell hit on Curry, and we need to hit again. We need to. We can make the playoffs if we want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some guy:<br />
Of course we need to draft someone? Where have you been the last 3 months when we said the SAME thing over and over. We just need to hit on THIS draft. We have to consider that we technically hit on Randolph, we sure as hell hit on Curry, and we need to hit again. We need to. We can make the playoffs if we want.</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 05:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[laughed out loud reading all these posts with fans overreacting to Nellie &amp; the celebration; when all that really matters is whether they draft a great player (b/c they aren&#039;t getting one via trade or FA). 

as much as the current roster sucks, you add a Lebron or a Dwight or a Timmay (in his hey day) or a KG (in his hey day) type player to this team and it&#039;s an instant contender. 

that player probably doesn&#039;t exist in this years draft, but getting a legitimate star player might be possible (which would probably put them in the fringe playoff team territory). realistically they are going to have to get another one in 2011 to have any hope of being a year in &amp; year out playoff team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>laughed out loud reading all these posts with fans overreacting to Nellie &amp; the celebration; when all that really matters is whether they draft a great player (b/c they aren&#8217;t getting one via trade or FA). </p>
<p>as much as the current roster sucks, you add a Lebron or a Dwight or a Timmay (in his hey day) or a KG (in his hey day) type player to this team and it&#8217;s an instant contender. </p>
<p>that player probably doesn&#8217;t exist in this years draft, but getting a legitimate star player might be possible (which would probably put them in the fringe playoff team territory). realistically they are going to have to get another one in 2011 to have any hope of being a year in &amp; year out playoff team.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I realize it&#039;s a complete waste of time responding to infintile posters such as Perry and Whacko, who evidently feel that swearing and vulgar language puts an exclamation point on their comments about basketball and the GSW. Bravo! If only my 4 yr old son knew as much as you two slugs he&#039;d be ready for Kindergarten right now.

Perry, I hope you can afford to buy an NBA team some day, hire Mike Dunleavy as coach, and then watch as confetti starts falling from the rafters of your arena. Confetti, or is that pieces of the roof falling on your respective heads? LOL

Whacko, did it ever occur to your peanut-sized brain that Curry was smiling because (1) He&#039;s learned that winning never comes easy in the NBA, and when you do taste victory, it&#039;s a great feeling, and especially so during an injury-ravaged season that his team has suffered through and (2) because he and his teammates had worked so hard, and ultimately succeeded, in winning a game that meant so much to their coach and the history of the NBA? No, I guess those thoughts never crossed your mind. What a shock. This season will only make Curry hungrier for success and winning in the future.

Nelson&#039;s problem here with the Warriors during his coaching career has been his great talent for rescuing teams from the abyss, and making them relevant within the NBA. Once that happens all the know-nothings start appearing with all the answers. All the other coaches in GSW history were never good enough to fail in the long run and make tough long term decisions. Their failures were all quick and without much fanfare or controversy. Nelson sets the bar much higher in a hurry, which is great if you ultimately succeed (championships). If not, you become a loser to all the small-minded, who unfortunately outnumber most everyone else on these threads.

Nellie will soon be gone, but never fear. The Perrys and Whackos of the world have all the answers. With that in mind, never did the movie &quot;2012&quot; have greater meaning. LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize it&#8217;s a complete waste of time responding to infintile posters such as Perry and Whacko, who evidently feel that swearing and vulgar language puts an exclamation point on their comments about basketball and the GSW. Bravo! If only my 4 yr old son knew as much as you two slugs he&#8217;d be ready for Kindergarten right now.</p>
<p>Perry, I hope you can afford to buy an NBA team some day, hire Mike Dunleavy as coach, and then watch as confetti starts falling from the rafters of your arena. Confetti, or is that pieces of the roof falling on your respective heads? LOL</p>
<p>Whacko, did it ever occur to your peanut-sized brain that Curry was smiling because (1) He&#8217;s learned that winning never comes easy in the NBA, and when you do taste victory, it&#8217;s a great feeling, and especially so during an injury-ravaged season that his team has suffered through and (2) because he and his teammates had worked so hard, and ultimately succeeded, in winning a game that meant so much to their coach and the history of the NBA? No, I guess those thoughts never crossed your mind. What a shock. This season will only make Curry hungrier for success and winning in the future.</p>
<p>Nelson&#8217;s problem here with the Warriors during his coaching career has been his great talent for rescuing teams from the abyss, and making them relevant within the NBA. Once that happens all the know-nothings start appearing with all the answers. All the other coaches in GSW history were never good enough to fail in the long run and make tough long term decisions. Their failures were all quick and without much fanfare or controversy. Nelson sets the bar much higher in a hurry, which is great if you ultimately succeed (championships). If not, you become a loser to all the small-minded, who unfortunately outnumber most everyone else on these threads.</p>
<p>Nellie will soon be gone, but never fear. The Perrys and Whackos of the world have all the answers. With that in mind, never did the movie &#8220;2012&#8243; have greater meaning. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Whack-A-Dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whack-A-Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Response to all of this:

Did you see the players&#039; faces after winning their 24th game of the season? It was fucking ridiculous. They were cheering and all! Does nobody give a damn about Stephen Curry&#039;s winning mentality back at Davidson? Is anybody worried that his &#039;emotional response&#039; to losing more than twice as many games as he ever did in college is going to have an impact on how he responds to challenges in the future? Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;ts great our tweener Santa got this &#039;award&#039; and has &#039;accomplished&#039; so much during his time fucking over the Warriors, but is no one worried about how this affected Curry to lose 50 games and still smile?! Is nobody worried that Nellie insisting to take every star player through the Summer League is going to fuck up ALL OF THEIR HEADS? What is wrong with this man, in some ridiculous effort to screw over our star players in search of winning a game vs the timberwolves, which Curry called &#039;the Warriors&#039; championship&#039;, he is supposed to be honored for doing this? Forget Dunleavy, forget everyone. This man is mentally insane. Tiger Woods should be free to drill his clubs into any slut he wants, but messing up a franchise for this long, finally getting something good and then working to screw it over for personal accolades is, in Rick Barry&#039;s words, &#039;embarassing&#039; to this City and the restless support we&#039;ve given that shithole of an organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to all of this:</p>
<p>Did you see the players&#8217; faces after winning their 24th game of the season? It was fucking ridiculous. They were cheering and all! Does nobody give a damn about Stephen Curry&#8217;s winning mentality back at Davidson? Is anybody worried that his &#8216;emotional response&#8217; to losing more than twice as many games as he ever did in college is going to have an impact on how he responds to challenges in the future? Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;ts great our tweener Santa got this &#8216;award&#8217; and has &#8216;accomplished&#8217; so much during his time fucking over the Warriors, but is no one worried about how this affected Curry to lose 50 games and still smile?! Is nobody worried that Nellie insisting to take every star player through the Summer League is going to fuck up ALL OF THEIR HEADS? What is wrong with this man, in some ridiculous effort to screw over our star players in search of winning a game vs the timberwolves, which Curry called &#8216;the Warriors&#8217; championship&#8217;, he is supposed to be honored for doing this? Forget Dunleavy, forget everyone. This man is mentally insane. Tiger Woods should be free to drill his clubs into any slut he wants, but messing up a franchise for this long, finally getting something good and then working to screw it over for personal accolades is, in Rick Barry&#8217;s words, &#8216;embarassing&#8217; to this City and the restless support we&#8217;ve given that shithole of an organization.</p>
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		<title>By: deano</title>
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		<dc:creator>deano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not the record that is most important; rather it is the joy of the players after getting that record, and Nellie&#039;s reaction to his players. This bit of feel-good is sorely needed to give GSW some positive closure to a dreadful season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the record that is most important; rather it is the joy of the players after getting that record, and Nellie&#8217;s reaction to his players. This bit of feel-good is sorely needed to give GSW some positive closure to a dreadful season.</p>
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