Warriors fall to No. 6 in Lottery. Bright side: Bids Are Rolling In
By Marcus Thompson
Tuesday, May 18th, 2010 at 8:44 pm in Uncategorized.
Despite being slotted at No. 4, the Warriors will draft No. 6. It’s the latest misfortune for a franchise that missed the playoffs for the 15th time in 16 seasons after leading the league in games missed due to injuries. Golden State were leapfrogged by No. 5 Washington and No. 6 Philadelphia, which landed the top two picks, respectively.
In their last 13 draft lotteries, the Warriors have either moved down or remained stagnant. Of course, stagnant would’ve been good this time. Because falling out of the top five not only leaves them out of the reach of Kentucky’s John Wall and Ohio State’s Evan Turner, but they may also be selecting too late to nab Georgia Tech’s Derrick Favors, Syracuse’s Wesley Johnson, and Kentucky’s DeMarcus Cousins.
GM LARRY RILEY: “I’m not going to spend time thinking we should’ve been this number or that number. It is what it is. Now we go to work.”
On the bright side, the sale of the franchise is underway in earnest. According to sources, the Warriors have received at least 10 bids. Cohan can now narrow the field of prospective owners and get down to the real negotiations.
From what I’m told, Ellison pretty much resubmitted, or officially submitted, his $315 million offer (which suggests he isn’t intimidated by any other owners or he’s determined not to overpay, or both). Also, sources said, 24-Hour Fitness founder Mastrov, the minority owners and a group of Chinese businesspeople have placed bids. The SF Chronicle is reporting that an NFL owner and former Lakers star also placed bids.
I’m told the bids are fairly low, as compared to the initial talk of topping $400. But it’s still early. Certainly, Ellison can end it at any point he wants.
Certainly, the Draft Lottery didn’t help promote a bidding war. Landing the No. 1 pick, or even one of the top 3, would have added onto the Warriors’ potential. A talent and personality like Wall would have no doubted brightened the future of and buzz around the Warriors. But instead, the Warriors’ are faced with more uncertainy.
Unless someone falls, whoever they get at No. 6 won’t inspire excitement. So barring a Cousins or Favors falling to the Warriors, trading the pick might be the prudent move. A team looking to move up or go young might be willing to deal for No. 6. A combination of the pick and players might be just what the Warriors need to get the player they won’t be able to land in the draft.
Philadelphia’s Andre Iguodala might be available since the 76ers got the No. 2 pick and, likely, Evan Turner. Maybe the pick and a player or two helps pry forward Josh Smith from Atlanta, or Al Jefferson from Minnesota.
Certainly, at No. 6, trading the pick is the best way to get immediate help for next season.
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May 18th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
I’m not sure about trading the pick. How often has it worked out? Last year Washington got Randy Foye/Mike Miller, eww…
May 18th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Im all for trading the pick, but we all know that something warriors managment doesnt, nor ever will have the cajones and imagination to do. Not unless we get new ownership.
I just hope We dont draft Cole Aldrich
May 18th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
If the Warriors keep the pick, get ready to welcome..uh.. Cole Aldrich to the Golden State Warriors? [Enter sound of crickets here]
Or Al-Farouq Aminu, who is an undersized power forward (or a small forward with limited range) in the Warriors system? Or Greg Monroe, a true center who can also lead the break, which would appeal to Don Nelson no doubt, but also a center who lacks intensity and a strong motor?
How underwhelming. Well how about the NBA Lottery in May 2011 in which the Warriors are destined to participate? Unfortunately, next year the Warriors will once again end up with a lottery pick in the 6-9 range because they will again go on a meaningless winning streak at the end of the season.
May 18th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
I think Aminu has a lot of potential. Rated number 5 on draftexpress.com. Read what they have on him — pretty intriguing. A very good rebounder, and works hard. If he falls to 6, it wouldn’t be so bad.
May 18th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
ha ha…the lousy luck of the Warriors continues….dropping to 6th instead of staying put ot getting lucky (for once) and moving up.
Now they need to get lucky again and hope Favors, Cousins or Johnson fall to 6.
They should have sold before the lotto and maybe the luck would have turned around before the lottery. LOL\
Lousy azz franchise!
May 18th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Aminu and maybe Monroe should also be looked at at #6. I kinda don’t trust Cousins.
May 18th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
trade the pick w/ Monte and move up to #2
May 18th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Better NOT draft the big stiff from Kansas Aldrich….thats for damn sure! Ughhhh
May 18th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
The top 3 is already locked…
1. WAS – John Wall
2. PHI – Evan Turner
3. NJM – Derrick Favors
One of Demarcus Cousins, Wesley Johnson will be there at #6 if the Kings or Wolves reach for someone else. You just got to hope one of those teams reach. And I got a good feeling it happens.
May 18th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
As long as we don’t draft Cole aldrich I’d be happy.
Ho about monta and #6 to Washington for #1 (Evan turner) & a body (mike miller? Blatche? Javale mcghee?)
maybe Philly wants monta?
Another exciting iverson type player as face of franchise?
May 18th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
I too hope we don’t draft Aldrich/Fuller.
The sixth and Monta for the second may be something to take a long look at. Then draft Turner.
May 18th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Warriors have to trade the pick. They are pretty much over the cap as we speak. Since Marcus rarely posts anything I have been relegated reading other blogs and Adam Laurison @ the Merc posted a story about the Warriors Cap woes. I have listed the link below. It looks like outside of landing the #1 pick the Warriors were pretty much stuck with trading whatever pick they ended up with. Oh, and why did Riley show up @ the lottery? He will be fired in a few months anyways, should have sent Curry for good luck!!!
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/warriors/2010/05/10/warriors-salary-capology-101/
May 19th, 2010 at 12:32 am
trade that pick man. Conversation continued here:
http://micromobs.com/mob/gswarriors
May 19th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Vegas, they don’t have to trade the pick because of cap reasons. I read that same piece by Adam and it doesn’t say that at all. It’s more of a cap issue to do the trade for a player than not, since that trade would have to include some current W player or players to make it happen.
However, they ought to seriously consider it.
May 19th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Greg Monroe, if available, would help this Warriors team. He would be a great personality opposite to Randolph. Whereas Randolph is insanely energetic and emotionally all over the place, Monroe is steady, smart and poised. Plus, Monroe could easily play for Nellie, b/c he’s a very good shooter and rebounder.
May 19th, 2010 at 9:38 am
If they stay at #6, I want Monroe, Johnson, or Davis.
Aldrich is the worst possible pick the Warriors could make. Todd Fuller 2.0.
I would be fine with trading the pick, as long as it brings back a current stud like Iguodala or Jefferson and moves at least one of the big contracts.
May 19th, 2010 at 9:48 am
We still have a shot at getting one of those elite Big Men. All it takes is for one of those top 5 teams teams to screw up. Fotunately for us last year Minnesota screwed up twice.
If that doesnt happen then the Warriors will still have a choice at some descent players. Al-Farouq Aminu and Greg Monroe are not bad players at all. Fortunately it looks like a very deep draft.
May 19th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Nelly will be fired. No coaching this team anymore, sucker. Warriors got exactly what they deserved.
May 19th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I think what is so unbelievable is that by winning a coin flip and getting the 4th pick over Wizards, we actually lost 2 slots and they went up 4 to #1…so if we had lost that coin flip and gotten 5th we actually would have gotten #1…that’s what it’s like being a W’s fan…please new owners come save us soon.
May 19th, 2010 at 11:53 am
NO to drafting the big white stiff Aldrich from Kansas!
Ugh! Aldrich would be the worst pick possible at 6!
May 19th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Monta for Al Jefferson. Biedrins and #6 (Al-Farouq Aminu) to the Hawks for Josh Smith.
That sheds two big contracts and gives us a frontline of Jefferson, Smith and Randolph with Turiaf, Wright and Maggette as back-ups. Cuury at the point with Azubuike, reggie williams and Morrow at the 2. Not great, but not bad at all!
May 19th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Hook Mitchell Says:
May 18th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
As long as we don’t draft Cole aldrich I’d be happy.
Ho about monta and #6 to Washington for #1 (Evan turner) & a body (mike miller? Blatche? Javale mcghee?)
maybe Philly wants monta?
Another exciting iverson type player as face of franchise?
^^^^^^^^
Good deal!
Trade Monte and the 6th pick to move up to Phillys #2 pick and draft Evan Turner!
Would be a good move, but would Philly bite?
May 19th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Trade the pick. If it’s a rookie big man Nelson won’t play him anyway. Heck, he doesn’t play big men period. Twice last year Randolph played more than 30 minutes in a game. Even with Biedrins and Turiaf hurt at the same time in the early period of the season Randolph got no run.
May 19th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
There are some very good players traded for top ten picks. Elton Brand, Ray Allen. Did you forget Jason Richadson. Considering that they all involved taking on massive contracts , I would foresee GW holding on to the pick with an upcoming sale pending.
May 19th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
forget the draft crap at this point…no gamers at that position this year…more impoirtant is how fast we can load up a freight car and ship the turds we have in the f/o and ALL coaches out of here…of course it all depends how long the big idiot drags this out…as i have said YEARS AGO root for the IRS…the more they turn up the heat the quicker he sells.
May 19th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I just hope that the new ownership handles either the selecting of the pick, or the trade of the pick, and not leave it up to current mis-management. Riley will probably trade the pick for more injured players like Raja Bell, Radmonovich, and Speedy Claxton, and if Nelson makes the call, he will draft another point guard.
May 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
DKnight007
I knew your name was familar.
I see it all the time on the raiders blog.
A lot of garbage to read thru there but sometimes can be worth it.
All/most the warriors PF are tall/skinny build.
Can’t even evaluate them because they been hurt most the time.
I wouldn’t mind a thicker build PF/C.
Anyone but Cole Aldrich !!!
May 19th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Keep montae get rid of magette and beans for capspace. If wesley jonson falls to us I say we gotta snag him. He’s the only kid in the draft that really just jumps out at me when you watch him.
May 19th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
I’m starting to like the options at #6 the more I’m reading up on the draft. Aminu looks a beast, and he’s 3 years younger than Wesley Johnson. He could be a steal at #6. Aldrich could go #4 or #5 since SAC/MIN need a defensive minded C. Cousins red flags could drop him to us.
May 20th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Wut is all the monta hate for???so he can become another example of an ex warriors turned all star???you people are funny if you think monta is the problem….but anyway I wud trade the #6 pick or draft monroe….we need to trade andris and go after brandon bass
May 21st, 2010 at 7:32 am
I ain’t hating on monta.
It’s just hard to win games in NBA with TWO smaller guards in backcourt.
Especially if you don’t have a beast as a big man.
If we had a legit big man we would be able to evaluate our small backcourt.
I’d trade monta for Jason Richardson straight up.
Even tho monta is the better player J rich might fit us better as of right now.
May 21st, 2010 at 6:04 pm
I like Aminu more each time I look at him. When Jack left, then Azabuike went down, there was no one left to defend bigger scorers. Aminu can defend 3 positions and that’s badly needed with Steph and Monta – someone to guard the Kevin Duarant’s of the world.
His weakness is the ability to create his own shot. But his quick first step will get him lots of dunks from Steph. He’s young and a hard worker so his shot will improve. And his rebounding makes him a good pairing with Rony, letting Rony commit to the block and Aminu fill in for the rebound.
Unless Beans shows something quick, he’s not going to make it. Draft Aminu and the rebouding and quickness will allow more flexibility playing Wright for his scoring and Rony for his shot blocking helping both offense and defense.
May 22nd, 2010 at 2:27 am
Greg Monroe is big dude, I had no idea.
6’11″, 247 lbs, highly skilled player.
He may be the guy at #6.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/
May 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
the warriors should trade their #6 pick with Ellis and try to get Lebron James.
May 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
i think it’s about time we get a superstar in the bay area. trade monta ellis and the #6 pick plus cash for lebron james. the warriors are a young team, it’s perfect fit for lebron to win championships. Oh! i forgot, the warriors owner are so cheap with their business minded mentality that they’re okay with losing as long as fans keep coming back to watch their team loose. these fans are not even a true since they come to the coliseum to watch the other teams superstar play. what a joke!!!!!!
May 24th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
ESPN reports that if the Sixers are going to give up the #2 pick (Evan Turner), the trading partner must be willing to take on Elton Brand. Perfect!
Monta, Morrow and Brandan Wright for Elton Brand and #2 (Turner). Keep our #6 pick and get Al-Farouq Aminu!
How sweet would a starting line-up of Curry, Turner, Aminu, Brand and Biedrins be with C.J., Azubuike/Reggie Williams, Maggette, Randolph, Tolliver, Turiaf and Hunter as back-ups?!?
May 25th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Aminu is our guy, hands down!!
May 25th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Trade the pick with Mags for the 1 or 2 pick. The Dubs need another guard.
Starting line up will look like this.
1. Curry
2. Ellis
3. Watson
4. Wall
5. Bukie
the ultimate in small ball!
May 27th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Hasa a 6-6 center. We’ve done it before
May 27th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
have*
micromobs.com/mob/gswarriors
May 30th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Greg Monroe. Shooting, passing, rebounding, poise. He and Randolph together would be a hell of a pairing.
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
whack a dub and harp’s you guys are stupid as kcuf. we don’t need more small forwards. we need monroe, udoh, if cousins drops past sacramento, the most. brand sucks he is way past his prime and much too costly. the hell y’all thinking what we need is a gnikcuf center dammit!!! trade biens somewhere else and get back a used futon like marco!!!gawwwwww
June 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
i like what number 9 said.