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	<title>Comments on: Ellis Caught in a Lie; Warriors Running Again; Udoh &#8216;Moving Up Fast&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: getjie</title>
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		<dc:creator>getjie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the &quot;lie&quot; it could be that Ellis became aware of the chant because of your question. Nice try at starting something though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the &#8220;lie&#8221; it could be that Ellis became aware of the chant because of your question. Nice try at starting something though.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Slamdunk,

Just who would you suggest that Riley go after to upgrade the 5 spot?  There really aren&#039;t a lot of good 5&#039;s out there, and when they are, teams usually do not want to part with them.  We don&#039;t need AB to score big.  He needs to get healthy, then eat up space in the paint and defend the rim, grab 10+ boards a nite, ignite the fast break and then maybe score a few points.  Udoh can back him up as the defensive &quot;stopper&quot; at the 5.  Amundsen spells DLee, (or maybe a scant Brandon Wright sighting at b/u 4)Radman is back to where he is best backing up the 3, and Gadz is relegated to &quot;a body to throw some fouls at Bynum, Howard, etc...&quot; IMO the upgrading front court is not where the W&#039;s jump to the next level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slamdunk,</p>
<p>Just who would you suggest that Riley go after to upgrade the 5 spot?  There really aren&#8217;t a lot of good 5&#8242;s out there, and when they are, teams usually do not want to part with them.  We don&#8217;t need AB to score big.  He needs to get healthy, then eat up space in the paint and defend the rim, grab 10+ boards a nite, ignite the fast break and then maybe score a few points.  Udoh can back him up as the defensive &#8220;stopper&#8221; at the 5.  Amundsen spells DLee, (or maybe a scant Brandon Wright sighting at b/u 4)Radman is back to where he is best backing up the 3, and Gadz is relegated to &#8220;a body to throw some fouls at Bynum, Howard, etc&#8230;&#8221; IMO the upgrading front court is not where the W&#8217;s jump to the next level.</p>
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		<title>By: pleue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pleue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That opens up the roster, combined with the salary relief and cap room from all the expirings (Vlad, Gadzuric, etc.) to get make a run at an athletic running defense oriented big like Tyson Chandler, who really is the only one in his FA class. If they want a plodder which I doubt, then Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol (Restricted), Oden? (Restricted but there&#039;s something about it if I remember that makes it unlikely he will be) are available. 

There should be enough flexibility and room to add a capable wing to pair with Wright and hopefully one more scorer off the bench. Free agents that come to mind are Tayshan Prince and Shane Battier, Azubuike and J Rich as wings/bench scorers, and Leandro Barbosa and Jamal Crawford as scorers.  

Ideally I would like to see a 10 man rotation with

1st Team

PG Curry
SG Ellis
SF Wright
PF Lee
C  Chandler

2nd Team
PG Duhon (if trade goes through, he&#039;s a serviceable backup)
SG Barbosa (running and scoring, can spark the 2nd team and can also go small with Curry and Ellis with Wright and Udoh perhaps.)
SF Prince or Battier (Both plus defense, Prince I think still has a better overall game but both are vets, good glue guys. Either might start over Wright, but I think the consistency will help Wright more than the others as they know their games already.)
PF/C Amundson/Udoh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That opens up the roster, combined with the salary relief and cap room from all the expirings (Vlad, Gadzuric, etc.) to get make a run at an athletic running defense oriented big like Tyson Chandler, who really is the only one in his FA class. If they want a plodder which I doubt, then Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol (Restricted), Oden? (Restricted but there&#8217;s something about it if I remember that makes it unlikely he will be) are available. </p>
<p>There should be enough flexibility and room to add a capable wing to pair with Wright and hopefully one more scorer off the bench. Free agents that come to mind are Tayshan Prince and Shane Battier, Azubuike and J Rich as wings/bench scorers, and Leandro Barbosa and Jamal Crawford as scorers.  </p>
<p>Ideally I would like to see a 10 man rotation with</p>
<p>1st Team</p>
<p>PG Curry<br />
SG Ellis<br />
SF Wright<br />
PF Lee<br />
C  Chandler</p>
<p>2nd Team<br />
PG Duhon (if trade goes through, he&#8217;s a serviceable backup)<br />
SG Barbosa (running and scoring, can spark the 2nd team and can also go small with Curry and Ellis with Wright and Udoh perhaps.)<br />
SF Prince or Battier (Both plus defense, Prince I think still has a better overall game but both are vets, good glue guys. Either might start over Wright, but I think the consistency will help Wright more than the others as they know their games already.)<br />
PF/C Amundson/Udoh</p>
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		<title>By: pleue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pleue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trade Beans to the Magic who need a backup center badly. Maybe for Duhon so they can have a real backup PG and thus unclogging the clogged magic back court. Might have to include some filler to make it work, but would help both teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade Beans to the Magic who need a backup center badly. Maybe for Duhon so they can have a real backup PG and thus unclogging the clogged magic back court. Might have to include some filler to make it work, but would help both teams.</p>
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		<title>By: Bleep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forget Udoh . . Riley obviously should have drafted Landry Fields!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget Udoh . . Riley obviously should have drafted Landry Fields!</p>
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		<title>By: slamdunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>slamdunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Riley needs to go after a decent center to improve the interior defense and score a little besides the occasional dunk from Biedrins. Now the Warriors are stuck with bad contract at center who really is not helping the team much. Udoh may even develop to be better, but Gadzuric is not the answer either. No real improvement can be expected until this problem is addressed. Center is a black hole right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riley needs to go after a decent center to improve the interior defense and score a little besides the occasional dunk from Biedrins. Now the Warriors are stuck with bad contract at center who really is not helping the team much. Udoh may even develop to be better, but Gadzuric is not the answer either. No real improvement can be expected until this problem is addressed. Center is a black hole right now.</p>
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		<title>By: stevo29</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevo29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Mr. DW, if all you haveto do is complain about the Dubs, then DON&quot;T WATCH. Yes, you have the right to type your comments, but if they make you that mad, let it go! No, the Dubs won&#039;t win the title this season, but progress is being made. They will trade someone soon, but coach is playing the hand that was dealt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mr. DW, if all you haveto do is complain about the Dubs, then DON&#8221;T WATCH. Yes, you have the right to type your comments, but if they make you that mad, let it go! No, the Dubs won&#8217;t win the title this season, but progress is being made. They will trade someone soon, but coach is playing the hand that was dealt.</p>
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		<title>By: warriorfan69</title>
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		<dc:creator>warriorfan69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone please call up knbr and mention to fitzgerald that yes the warriors got miserably pounded on the boards the last 3 games.  Oh but look at what we have here.  Yes that&#039;s correct, we are 3-0 without biedrins, I wonder how that all happened. This is called having david lee now relatively more healthy and others stepping up and hitting shots and playing defense. The evidence shows, that even if we are generally a bad team .....when we do win....it&#039;s not thanks to biedrins.....case closed.......talk now radio tv announcer boy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone please call up knbr and mention to fitzgerald that yes the warriors got miserably pounded on the boards the last 3 games.  Oh but look at what we have here.  Yes that&#8217;s correct, we are 3-0 without biedrins, I wonder how that all happened. This is called having david lee now relatively more healthy and others stepping up and hitting shots and playing defense. The evidence shows, that even if we are generally a bad team &#8230;..when we do win&#8230;.it&#8217;s not thanks to biedrins&#8230;..case closed&#8230;&#8230;.talk now radio tv announcer boy</p>
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		<title>By: brandanwright</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandanwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Udoh is solid, but Keith Smart needs to play more of the bench.  You need to utilize all the length and shot blocking you have at your disposal.  Brandan Wright sadly to say is still your best post up player yet for some reason Keith Smart won&#039;t play him.

Just about the time Don Nelson was going to play him he had to sit out because of the shoulder injury.  You can&#039;t blame the guy for getting hurt. Warriors have a history of bad luck and so singling him out is highly unfair.  If Smart cycled in a rotation of biedrins (although not that good ) lee, udoh, wright , and amundson would be highly recommended so you can use up fouls and spell each other minutes.  There are many many combinations of lineups utlizing a longer lineup

There are no excuses, Keith Smart needs to realize that he has talent and he should not be stubborn like his mentor by putting players in the doghouse and letting their skill rot and value fade out.   PLAY YOUR PLAYERS.....LEARN]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Udoh is solid, but Keith Smart needs to play more of the bench.  You need to utilize all the length and shot blocking you have at your disposal.  Brandan Wright sadly to say is still your best post up player yet for some reason Keith Smart won&#8217;t play him.</p>
<p>Just about the time Don Nelson was going to play him he had to sit out because of the shoulder injury.  You can&#8217;t blame the guy for getting hurt. Warriors have a history of bad luck and so singling him out is highly unfair.  If Smart cycled in a rotation of biedrins (although not that good ) lee, udoh, wright , and amundson would be highly recommended so you can use up fouls and spell each other minutes.  There are many many combinations of lineups utlizing a longer lineup</p>
<p>There are no excuses, Keith Smart needs to realize that he has talent and he should not be stubborn like his mentor by putting players in the doghouse and letting their skill rot and value fade out.   PLAY YOUR PLAYERS&#8230;..LEARN</p>
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		<title>By: dubfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dubfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was at the Portland game...and not that I could not have seen this from home in front of the TV as well, but some observations...

Nice to see David Lee CONSISTENTLY drop the 15 foot jumper...it has not been there all year.  When Monta or Curry or D.Wright can drive and kick out if necessary and know that the guy they kick it to (Lee, maybe Udoh too?) can drop that shot...a very nice offensive option.

Udoh is still learning, but getting better by leaps and bounds and in a hurry.  He blocked 3 shots and altered at least a couple of others, and showed some offensive prowess as well.  He is going to be good.  Very glad to have him.

Will be very few games in his CAREER that Curry will go 2-15, and yet the team still won.  This is a good sign.

DEFENSE is what won the game in the last 5 minutes.  Yeah, it wasn&#039;t there in the first 43 so much, but it was when it counted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the Portland game&#8230;and not that I could not have seen this from home in front of the TV as well, but some observations&#8230;</p>
<p>Nice to see David Lee CONSISTENTLY drop the 15 foot jumper&#8230;it has not been there all year.  When Monta or Curry or D.Wright can drive and kick out if necessary and know that the guy they kick it to (Lee, maybe Udoh too?) can drop that shot&#8230;a very nice offensive option.</p>
<p>Udoh is still learning, but getting better by leaps and bounds and in a hurry.  He blocked 3 shots and altered at least a couple of others, and showed some offensive prowess as well.  He is going to be good.  Very glad to have him.</p>
<p>Will be very few games in his CAREER that Curry will go 2-15, and yet the team still won.  This is a good sign.</p>
<p>DEFENSE is what won the game in the last 5 minutes.  Yeah, it wasn&#8217;t there in the first 43 so much, but it was when it counted.</p>
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