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If you were Joe Lacob, what moves would you try to do to make the Warriors a serious contender for a title.

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  • Rick lust

    Trade Ellis, with bieds, uduh, b wright, and any other expires for nene and jr smith.

  • W’s in 2010

    Sell the team to Larry Ellison.

  • improvise

    I swear the comments section cracks me up.

  • Read a rumor earlier today that the Bobcats are shopping around both Boris Diaw and Gerald Wallace for expirings. The Warriors could trade BWright, Vlad, and Dan Gadz.


    Trade Machine says Warriors would win 4 more games with that. That wouldn’t be a title winning team, but they would be closer. They could move DWright down to starting 2 guard, and have Monta start at 1, and Curry come off the bench. Wallace would start at 3, with Lee and Biendris at 4 and 5 respectively. Would make the Warriors bigger, and better defensively at more positions.

    Now if we wanted to fix our 5 postion with someone I think the Clippers could swap us Chris Kamen for Biendris and Lou Amundson.


    Though the Trade Machine says that the Warriors would lose 5 more games a year, I don’t think we would. Not with a center that is nearly averaging a double double his carrer, and last year Kamen was an 18/9 guy who shot free throws at 75%. Which is better than the horrible numbers Biendris is putting up this year.

    Thanks for the opportunity, love the articles, and good luck to everyone!

  • improvise

    My solution: Fire the entire scouting department. The Warriors have missed on draft picks year after year and I think the scouts shoulder most of the blame.

  • Harp’s Dubs

    Monta Ellis to the Sixers for Andre Iguodala.
    Dorell Wright and Andris Biedrins to the Clippers for Chris Kaman.
    Brandan Wright to the Nets for Terrance Williams.
    Use our first round pick on the best SG available.
    Use FA money on Greg Oden and a back-up point guard.

  • Dubs_til_i_die

    If I were Joe Lacob, I would try to follow the Celics’ idea and make changes that will try to take us to serious title contention ASAP instead of hunting for picks because that takes too long and chancy. For our us, we simply need to acquire a rugged, defense-minded “leader” (can’t get a “star” since we don’t have enough trading chips for that this trade deadline around)
    I would try my best in keeping my main core intact Curry, Lee & Ellis (in that specific order too) and make good use of our $17 mil expiring contracts (B.Wright, Lou, Gaz, Vlad of the top of my head) in trying to make that happen. We have plenty of offensive power from our guards alone, so a defensive guard would be the perfect medicine with interchanging our small guards for defensive purposes. Our bigs aren’t good enough to bang down in the post with the elite teams so acquiring someone like Nene(or Thabeet or Camby??) would be an instant upgrade. If we can’t acquire a big, which is highly likely this time around, we should try to upgrade our wing position with the likes of Iggy (highly unlikely) or Gerald Wallace since I view D.Wright an ideal backup wing for us.
    However at the end of the day we have to simply try to clear up the cap space by the end of the year so that’d give us a higher probability in obtaining that good pricey free agent in offseason that could take us over the hump (a la celtics’ KG & Allen) because I know our new ownership is willing to make it rain after just hearing we could possibly trade B.Wright&Gadz for Troy Murphy (him again!?!!?) and just buy him out right away…


  • Let’s see if Denver is willing to give up Nene since they will be in rebuilding mold. Denver may still want Biedrins and throw in B.Wright,Gadzuric,and J. Lin. Other options would be with the Pacers D.Grainer in exchange for R. Williams, Biedrins and throw in B.Wright and Gadzuric. The warriors and the pacers seem to have some type of connection. Grainer would be the starting small forward and D.Wright could come off the bench and provide much needed offense. Also both Grainer/Wright could be used in the backcourt to add much needed size. Often times the front court players are out of position to rebound due to helping out the undersize back court. Keep Udoh do not trade him. Then take all other expiring contracts and exchange for veteran leadership in Troy Murphy.

  • Nick S.

    As currently constructed, the team is entertaining, but can’t compete with the elite teams due to the lack of size in the back court and athleticism up front.

    1. Send Monta & BWright to ATL for Josh Smith & Bibby. Johnson and Crawford both complement Ellis to create a very potent 3-guard rotation, and the Hawks can see if they can harness Wright’s untapped potential. Smith instantly makes the GS front line much more dynamic and adds an additional shot-blocker to protect Curry; Bibby’s cap filler and a bad contract to shed.

    2. Trade Biedrins + Gadzuric + Radmanovic + $3M to Milwaukee for Bogut + Gooden + Delfino. Like the Warriors, the Bucks aren’t going anywhere as currently constructed. They can get rid of Gooden’s horrendous contract and get more expirings to add to Redd’s $18M to start the rebuilding project around Jennings and Ilyasova. With Bogut & Lee forming one of the better passing big tandems, the offense can become more motion-based and fluid.

    New line-up:

    (PG) Curry; Bibby, Law, Lin
    (SG) DWright; Delfino, Bell
    (SF) Smith; Williams
    (PF) Lee; Amundson, Gooden
    (C) Bogut; Udoh

  • nate hoffman

    This is considering we dont make a trade at the deadline with the current roster

    1st step – In free agency it’s obvious we need a center and a bench upgrade but the centers will command more then our 7 mil we have to offer (Perkins turned down I think 48 mil from Boston)so getting a legit center upgrade is unlikely to happen so I suggest getting a 6th man on the wing for the amount of money we have. I think JRich can come for a price around there and possibly Arron Afflalo. So sign one of them or someone similar

    2nd step – Dump Andris, theres no going around it he’s not a good starting center anymore. Trade him for an expiring. I suggest trading Andris for Jamison’s expiring in the offseason. If the Cavs say no throw in our 2nd. If we can’t get them to budge trade Andris for Diop’s expiring. If we end up getting a low lottery pick which is likely I’d trade it considering this is a very weak draft (especially considering our needs, this draft has a lot of tweener 3/4’s and soft bigs) for Tawn’s 15 mil in expirings. That is a lot of cap space for the following offseason especially considering the lower cap number coming after the new CBA.


    4th step – Wait until the dust settles in free agency and grab one of the remaining bigs for cheap. Hopefully Yao or Oden slip through the cracks but more realistically someone like Chuck Hayes or Kurt Thomas for 1 season.

    5th step – Dont touch the roster at the deadline no matter how much you want to.

    Current team at this time would be:
    PG – Curry, Lin
    SG – Monta, Reggie
    SF – Wright, Richardson
    PF – Lee, Jamison, Louis
    C – Udoh , Thomas/Hayes

    Not great but letting Udoh develop is smart and I think that team could be .500

    6th step – We’d have above 20 mil in cap space going into the 2012 offseason which contains Gerald Wallace, Kidd, Billups, Felton, Chris Paul, Russ Westbrook, Dwight Howard, Speights, Vince Carter, Steve Nash, Batum, Andre Miller, Jason Thompson, George Hill, Deron Williams, Okur , Javal McGee, Hinrich , Rudy Fernandez, Meeks, Fields, Kevin Love, OJ Mayo, Eric Gordon, Roy Hibbert, Brandon Rush, Hickson, Augastin

    Essentially we will have a redo of this past offseason with all these good players and we could afford any of those price tags (consider the new CBA this 20 mil in cap space would be a ton, maybe enough to pair Dwill and Dwight… But thats being hopeful to attract both of them but if we can get them to come together not impossible. Boston didn’t look attractive to KG unless Ray went with him).

    I think going hard at those 3 superstars would be key (CP3, Dwight, DWill) and if you get 1 or 2 of these guys your fixing of the W’s is done, problems solved. If you got one of the PG’s trade Curry for a center (Bynum?). Otherwise I think grabbing Wallace is very possible . I’d throw a good amount of money at McGee and we’d still likely have a little left after that.If we can’t get Javal maybe get someone cheaper like Jason Thompson or Speights or maybe Okur. Landry Fields would be a grea target as well. I think he can be interested in coming back to the bay and NY surely won’t keep him if they want to get a 3rd star.

    We’d have to compete with Boston, LA and NY for a superstar and we just have to hope in 2011 we can get above .500 and that Curry and Monta are good enough to convince Dwight to come and Lacob can talk him into it.

    PG – Curry, Hinrich
    SG – Monta, Richardson
    SF – Wright, Wallace (aging and DW is only getting better so I have at 6th man)
    PF – Lee, Draft pick?
    C – McGee, Udoh

    Thats easily a playoff team and it’s unknown if McGee breaks out or not

    Now if the Murphy trade goes through we won’t have a lot of cap space anyway so the plan doesn’t change much. If we were willing to go into the luxury tax maybe try and get Deandre Jordan this year. But thats unlikely since I think LAC will keep him.

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  • phenomenon

    If I were in charge of the warriors, these are the moves I would try to make:

    1. Trade Curry, Reggie, Andris, and BWright to Houston for Battier, Chuck Hayes, and Kyle Lowry.

    Houston is willing to absorb Biedrins’ contract since they’re getting Curry, the best player in the trade. They are hoping Andris can play well with Scola up front. They appreciate Reggie’s steady backcourt play and they’re willing to take a flyer on Wright.

    The Warriors get back Battier, one of the best perimeter defenders and glue guys in the league. Lowry is a defensively strong point guard despite his limited size and is having a breakout season (averaging 12 points, 6 assists, and 3 boards per game). Hayes is also undersized but strong defensively, and an efficient scorer inside.

    2. Trade Radmanovic, Charlie Bell, and Jeremy Lin, and a 2nd rounder to the Bucs for Salmons, Ilyasova, and Mbah a Moute

    The Bucks are dying for a redo on the massive extension they gave to John Salmons. They get it by trading him for Radmanovic, and are willing to give up Mbah a Moute, a young tough defender, to do it. Salmons can defend too, and though he’s having a down shooting season he’s not a bad scorer. Ilyasova is athletic, long, and can shoot.

    3. Extend Battier, Hayes, and Mbah a Moute. None of them have guaranteed contracts beyond this season.

    Our rotation after the trades would look like this:
    Ellis/ Battier/ Salmons
    DWright/ Battier/ Mbah a Moute
    Lee/ Hayes/ Ilyasova
    Udoh/ Amundson

    Your main scoring options are Ellis, Lee, and Wright, but you have other players that can score too. All of your wing players are above average defenders. You have big men that bring toughenss, interior defense, rebounding, and inside scoring ability to the table. And most of the pieces are young. I think this team would be a contender, no doubt about it.

  • Harp’s Dubs

    Combine Jonathan Peng’s first trade with my first two and you’ve got yourself a squad:

    PG – Steph Curry/Acie Law/ Jeremy Lin
    SG – Iguodala/Reggie Williams/Charlie Bell
    SF – Gerald Wallace/Boris Diaw
    PF – David Lee/Lou Amundson
    C – Chris Kaman/Ekpe Udoh

  • Marc

    Get in on this trade with New Jersey and Portland to make it a larger trade and get rid of most of the long term contracts the team has.


    The Warriors would also receive their first round pick back from New Jersey in the deal, closing the Marcus Williams saga finally.

    Now the team has $34 million in salary coming off the books instead of $17 million, giving it the ability to become major players in the market going forward. If there is no superstar player like Dwight Howard who would be willing to take the team’s money, then use the cap space to acquire solid assets like OKC does (Eric Maynor for simply stashing Matt Harpring on the roster for a season; Kurt Thomas and two first round picks for a trade exception with a cash starved team). Compile draft picks and take good, young, and cheap players on a fixed rookie scale and preserve your cap space for when a superstar truly wants to come here.

  • Wesley

    First off I would break up the Curry / Ellis combo. But before doing so if we are to keep either player we would need either a Big 1 or 2 depending on who we keep (big SG if we keep Curry, big PG if we keep Ellis).

    In my opinion I would keep Curry since he is a “pure” shooter and doesn’t need that many shots to score. I see him in the mold of Ray Allen runner of screens and spotting up for jumpers. Also he can take the role of a distributor as we’ve seen, but feel that isn’t his strongest part of his game.

    Anyways my first deal would be to get Kirk Hinrich. Since he is a big PG/SG who can play defense and run a team. However Washington would not be handing him out for free thus I propose that we absorb R. Lewis’ contract as well, while Washington absorbs Biedrins and our expiring contracts along with Bell who they can buyout.


    With this trade alone we shore up our bench with a legit guard defender / distributor. Whether Lewis’s knees holds up it’s a non-factor since we have to take on some dead weight in order to offload dead weight(aka Beans). Washington does this deal because of all the expiring contracts they’ll be getting and all they have to absorb is 9 million dollars a year for Andris’ contract and Bell.

    Next off I trade Monta to Memphis for Marc Gasol, OJ Mayo and Memphis’ choice of X.Henry, S. Young, T. Allen, (I however would ask for T. Allen for his defense). Memphis does this deal because they are going to lose OJ Mayo and have been shopping him for months. The only problem with this deal is Gasol, Memphis has said they want to resign him but by trading him right now they will have the money to resign Z. Randolph and have a team comprised of (Monta, Gay, Conley, Randolph).


    For the finished product this would be our starting lineup:

    PG: Hinrich
    SG: Curry
    SF: Dorell
    PF: Lee
    C: Gasol

    Bench: Mayo, Allen, Henry, Reggie W, Lewis, Udoh, Admunson, and Lin.

    As you can see our team is more defensively oriented, but still has the scoring punch with the wing players like Mayo and Henry. If possible I would trade one of the wing players for an veteran big in the mold of Nick Collison / Joe Smith.

    And in the offseason I resign Gasol as he’s a restricted free agent and possibly let Mayo go or retrade him for a possible future 1st round pick with cash / exceptions.

  • wg

    1) curry/bwright/amundson/radmanovic to utah for dwilliams/raja bell

    2) biedrins for expirings or trade exception

    3) make an attempt to sign nene in the offseason

    backcourt: dwilliams/ellis/raja bell
    wing: dorell wright/rwilliams
    frontcourt: nene/udoh/lee

    a number of things have to fall the warriors’ way to achieve this scenario (e.g., utah getting 80 cents on the dollar for dwill, but getting one of the promising up and coming pg’s in the league). if this scenario did happen, the warriors would be significantly upgraded defensively at the 1 and 5 spots, and the only glaring hole would be PF with lee. and improved on the offensive end too.

  • Tim1234

    I would have traded AB for expiring contracts. For the back court I would sign a vet. big guard with defensive skills to give ME a rest from guarding the bigs 2s. I would get rid of Amudson and grab Nene or Chandler, free agent centers with the money available this summer. I would bring Nellie back to teach Smart a little more, he does not know how to teach the fast break (Wright is always out of place, today he took and missed a 15 foot jumper on a 2 on 1 fast break). Also at the end of quarters there are times to go 2 for 1 and Smart never does this. And teams can run after made baskets and get open shots. He never does this either. So Nellie needs to teach him how to score 115 a night. By slowing the pace the other team scores less and the writers praise the defense. That is a sham. You can fool some of the people all the time…

    AC law can’t shoot a 3. When he and SC are in the game he needs to handle the ball, drive and dish, not SC. Again smart doesn’t get it. SO either get a back up point who can shoot or do it right. Having AC on the 3 point line is about as effective as putting AB at the high post.

    I would run the set offense through Lee and use his passing skills more. I would also play Lee at the center. Lastly I would grab Zack Randolf as a free agent. He is a 20 – 10 guy. I’d play Lee at center and Zack at forward. Lees guy scores about forty points a night. SO it does not matter who he guards and he is way to slow to guard the 4s in the west. Lastly I’d bring back Greg Papa.

  • The player swaps are fine and dandy, but nothing will change on this team until league perception of the Warriors shifts drastically. Lacob needs to invest hugely in a PR campaign that starts connecting the Warriors with the sports legacy that has existed in the Bay – 49ers, Giants, A’s – all have histories of being champions or contenders, respectability, and attraction to top-notch players.

    The bay area is a major metropolitan market, one of the top areas in the nation, and very wealthy and exciting place to live. But within the realms of the NBA, the Warriors are seen as a small market team on par with the Bucks and the Clippers.

    Guys like Carmelo and KG/Ray Allen will continue to sign with NY and Boston teams based on tradition and reputation. We’ll never win a championship with players who were left over after each year’s top free agents sign to the same places as always. Crank up the PR machine and start building that hype for how amazing this team and town truly are.

  • LosthawkGSW

    Here is what I would do today:

    1) Trade Andris + Bwright + Gadz + Vlad for DeAndre Jordan, Baron Davis and Kaman.
    -Warriors do this to solidify the bench and get DeAndre Jordan
    -LAC does this to save a ton of money, they need to extend Gordon and Blake soon

    2) Off season sign JRich and try to get Shane Battier
    3) Match any offer under 11mil per for DeAndre Jordan
    4) Fire Rowell.
    5) Demote Smart, or fire him if he doesn’t want to step down
    6) Hire Brian Shaw
    7) Demote Riley to Asst GM, hire Zarren.

    PG: Curry – Baron – Reggie
    SG: Ellis – JRich – Reggie
    SF: Wright – Battier
    PF: Lee – Udoh
    C: Jordan – Kaman

    The following season, try to trade Kaman Expiring + Jordan for DHoward in a sign and trade.

    Offer Curry + Ellis for Cp3/Dwill in a sign and trade. If this doesn’t work, just keep Curry/Ellis..the backcourt can contend with a center like dhoward

    problems solved!

  • Harps World, you may want to do a little research and know what team players play for that you want to make trades for, Terrance Williams no longer plays for the Nets (you might try Houston).

  • Did believe

    I would make a run at Maurice Speights or Samuel Dalembert. Somehow using Beans. We’re not getting Nene and even if we did he’d never extend with us. Other than that, find some way to deal with the Nets or whoever the hell it is that owns our first rounders anymore to try to pry them loose. I’d also take a hard look at a guy like Greg Oden. Maybe there’s something left there for a mid-level deal. I don’t understand how the Murphy trade does anything at all except I guess get us a second rounder in an already bad, upcoming draft. I’m not against bringin Kaman in for Beans either but he can’t be the long term solution. I’d only do so if there is zero possibility of adding getting any first rounders in the next couple of years. He might be an interesting trade component in the future. More interesting than beans anyway.

  • ReasonableAnswer

    The NBA is all about superstars, and the Warriors need one to compete. The only ways to acquire a superstar are draft, trade, and free agency. Teams don’t trade superstars very often, and if they do, it’s usually because they are about to become free agents anyway. The Warriors won’t be able to sign a superstar free agent because few superstars would voluntarily go to a losing situation with a questionable front office and no-name coaching staff. The best way to acquire a superstar is if you already have another superstar on your roster, like Miami did this past summer, the Celtics did a few years back, and what the Knicks are doing now. So, the best, if not only, way to acquire a superstar is through the draft. The Bulls drafted MJ, the Lakers drafted Kobe, the Heat drafted Wade, the Celtics drafted Paul Pierce, the Spurs drafted Duncan (and Ginobili, and Parker), etc, etc… and the list goes on. The Warriors need to drastically improve their scouting department (and their entire front office) and focus on getting great players in the draft. Trade our expiring contracts for draft picks. Stop trading (and selling) away our draft picks in ridiculous deals like the Marcus Williams debacle. The Warriors need to start valuing their draft picks and using them wisely. The smartest thing Joe Lacob can do right now is to hire the best scouts around, maybe poach someone from the Spurs front office, and revamp the Warriors’ scouting department.

  • Did believe

    Oh, forgot one name, Andray Blatche. Also, to clarify, Speights and Dalembert are both gettable and presumably ok with playing here considering where they’ve been playing for most of their careers. The fact that they are also better defenders and more imposing physically plays nicely next to Lee. I’d prefer Speights because he’s younger and more talented. Blatche could also be had since he’s on the block. While not game changers they may pair better with other pieces for trades later. A package including monta/curry and speights or blatche looks a lot better than biedrins. I’m just looking at ways to moderately increase the value of specific pieces that would look better on the whole in a later deal. Then you could look at adding larger individual players with the smaller upgrades we make although Blatche may be a keeper if smart or whoever coaches this team next year can motivate him properly.

  • JFish

    An attempt to answer the QUESTION…. What’s needed to make the W’s a serious contender for the title? Wow! Therein lies the problem, the question is premature. The only way for the W’s to contend quickly is for them to get VERY, VERY, LUCKY. That is NOT a strategy and may not be sufficient! Winning the Lottery would be lucky, but there does not appear to be a Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, John Wall, LeBron or Kobe in the next few draft classes, even if there were, as great as those players are, it takes a while to adjust to the NBA and make their teams contenders. Trading a Star for a different Star is not likely to happen and getting the better in a trade also requires LUCK and probably a connection (Ainge, McHale – Kevin Garnet for Al Jefferson). You might get LUCKY betting on a healthy Yao, Oden or Bynum, but looking at this chart would indicate the odd are against you. http://www.blazersedge.com/2011/2/17/1999729/simmons-oden-will-probably-never-be-healthy

    To CONTEND FOR THE TITLE, The management and the W’s fans need to focus FIRST on being a competitive playoff team. They must have a game plan (see below) to become a consistent playoff team. They must manage the expectations of their long suffering and loyal fan base, so reactionary trades or coaching changes aren’t demanded/forced by disgruntled fans. If you think disgruntled fans can’t lead a revolt, you haven’t been paying attention to the Middle East lately.

    The W’s must make some upgrades to their roster (step 1 below). Define their game plan internally, and to their fans. With 26 games left, it would be an aggressive statement for the W’s management to let it be known (not a formal announcement, but a “leak” to reporters) that although the W’s would have to leapfrog four teams (Utah, Memphis, Phoenix, Houston), we feel that with Memphis hurting, Utah and Denver in some disarray and New Orleans and Houston sliding a playoff spot may be possible. With our new roster (step 1 below), we will try to make the playoffs for the invaluable experience it will provide for our young players.

    We will assess the likelihood of making the playoffs after our seven game road trip (several winnable games, but on the road). The assessment will be realistic, rather than hopeful. If it is determined we are not likely to make the playoffs, we will focus on evaluating our existing roster and coaching staff. Missing the playoffs is the more probable case. The W’s have more back-to-back games left than any of the teams ahead of us, and all the teams with the exception of Memphis have recent playoff experience.

    Regardless of the outcome of this year, we will strive to configure our roster and game plan to be COMPETITIVE in the playoffs NEXT year, with the expectation of being in contention for a title in the NEXT THREE years. San Antonio, Dallas, Boston and the Lakers will continue to age in that time and will have to revamp their roster in those years under what is likely to be a more restrictive CBA, (the Lakers/Mavs have some large long term contracts which could greatly impact their flexibility). Miami will have six players earning $65Mil in two years, while there are three great players, filling out that roster will be difficult. Can we position ourselves to beat the future title contenders like the Bulls, OKC, Orlando.

    Once W’s management sets that basic target, The following steps should be taken:

    Step 1. Upgrade this year’s roster ASAP. Gadz, Bell, Radm were acquired to get out of the Maggette contract and move a disgruntled Jackson. They should not be part of our future, and are hurting our chances of success. AC Law was a “stop-gap” hire when Lin showed he wasn’t ready and Bell didn’t appear to be interested in playing. There is better, cheaper talent in the D-League, who have the potential to be part of the W’s future, (C.J Watson, R. Williams, A. Tolliver, C. Hunter). While I appreciated Law’s defensive effort against Ray Allen and Boston, his lack of shooting ability meant we were playing at best 4 offensive players against 5 very good defenders. In this league, wings and guards need to hit the open jumpers. When the ball moves crisply to the open man, but the man left open can’t hit the shot, it discourages ball movement next time.

    We can talk about lack of good defense, but I think most will agree that defense is more about effort, energy and focus than it is about athletic talent. Defense is played more with the feet, i.e., position than with the hands, blocks or reach-in-steals (versus passing lane steals). When you are fatigued, your effort can be there, but energy, focus, and speed may not be. Tired players play defense with their HANDS instead of their feet, resulting in more FOULS. The Warriors have the worst “foul differential” in the league.

    Look at the top 10 defensive teams in the league (points scored) they all have solid rotations and with only two of the ten teams having players averaging over 39 minutes per game (Deng 39.1, Aldridge 39.4). The Warriors have two Monta 41.1, Wright 39.2. Without the talent, rotations are a crap shoot, starters end up playing too many minutes and defense suffers. Rebounding can also be viewed as an “effort” stat, again we have one of the worst differentials in the league. Poor rebounding leads to more work on the defensive end, more fatigue, and fouls (let alone injuries).

    You will NEVER have a quality defense without a DEEPER bench and better rotations.

    Last year, every player on the roster had potential and was working hard to make it in the NBA, and they were hopeful their best years were AHEAD of them. Now we have players who’s best years are probably BEHIND them and are unlikely to last in the NBA much longer (Gadz, Vald, Bell, even Law). Yes, Bell’s played a little better since the DUI, hopefully it was a wakeup call to him that he’s lucky to be “playing” basketball for a living and even luckier to be owed $4Mill next year (I’d rather pay it to keep Brandon). I believe we’d be better off if we could replace those contracts with hungry D-Leaguers or trade them for low cost unused rookies/second year players at the end of someone’s bench.

    Smart has been accused of having poor rotations, but what were his choices, particularly at the start of the season. Williams wasn’t hitting shots, Lin wasn’t ready, Bell wasn’t healthy and then not playing well. Udoh Amundson out, Lee injured, Radmonovic not shooting well. B.Wright not healthy or not playing. We must have players who compliment our five starters (which is not a bad starting five).

    It is acceptable to have a “defensive stopper” who guards a Ray Allen, but the minutes have to be limited to “cooling off” a hot hand. Law, Udoh, Radmonovic were a combined 3 – 16. We are too limited offensively, to give big minutes to rotation players unless Rad or Williams are hot. I don’t know whye we’ve given up on Brandon Wright, he’s younger than Udoh, with NBA experience. His trade value is minmal if he’s going to get injured again the seasons almost over anyway, but I think he MIGHT be the second most offensively gifted player on our bench. I’m not sure if he’s in a dog house, or has bad practice habits, but use him or get someone you will use.

    Step 2. Enter the modern age by hiring and developing a first class analytics department to evaluate talent on both the NBA, College and International level. Teams with analytics departments do better than those without. (See: http://www.red94.net/rocketscience-analytics-teams-nonanalytics-teams/5698/). Develop metrics to evaluate your talent objectively (not with emotion). Determine where the team is getting beat, and what you need to do to improve (stop guessing). Evaluate what your TALENT is worth so you don’t overpay. (see Maggette, Jackson, Dunleavy, Murphy and offers to Elton Brand, Barron Davis, Gilbert Arenas).

    Step 3. Determine what you have and what type of team you’ll need to be competitive in the playoffs. Blend in a vet with playoff experience that has played in the style you wish to pursue. The quickest way to build given what we currently have is probably a speed/matchup game ala Phoenix in the D’Antoni years, Nelson We Believe. It is also very entertaining. To contend for a title you will have to develop a half court game, continue to improve your defense and run opportunistically. Don Nelson had success because he knew what he wanted and how he wanted to play, consequently he instructed Mullin to get rid of Dunleavy and Murphy after 6 months since he knew their games didn’t fit his style. These days we seem to trade and hope and guess at what we need.

    Step 4. Evaluate Keith Smart carefully, he should probably have an older coach on the bench with a lot of NBA experience, the bench looks a bit young and could use a gray beard. If you decide he’s the one, commit to him. Winning teams seem to have more consistency at the coaching spot, the team needs to reflect the personality of its coach. There are only a few NBA coaches that I know I’d replace Smart with. Nate McMillan is one of the most underated coaches in the league, Popovic, Thibodeau, Dantoni maybe Brooks.

    Step 5. MAXIMZIE the use of your draft, Know which players will fit with the style you play. (See San Antonio Spurs http://www.foxsportshouston.com/01/22/11/Secret-to-Spurs-success-lies-in-drafts-s/landing.html?blockID=396073&feedID=4519). Decide what you want in the Free Agent Market, and what you will pay…. Avoid crazy long term deals for middle of the road players. See STEP 2 – STOP GUESSING! Want another big man to go along with Biendrins – Which one best fits your style of play and what you give to have them? Dalembert, Speights, Thompson, Marc Gasol, Kamen, DeAndre, McGee, Blatche…

    Step 6. GET LUCKY….GET VERY, VERY LUCKY! See GREG ODEN/KEVIN DURANT? David Robinson injury leads to Tim Duncan.

  • MrCrossover10

    There is no doubt that Warriors fans are going to expect some BIG changes to happen this off season. If I were Joe Lacob and wanted to avoid being labeled an “all talk but no action” type owner, then I would consider the following.

    1.) Pursue former Warriors guard and bay area native Brian Shaw as the new head coach. Why? Because he knows how to win and has been exposed to a winning environment as the assistant coach for the back to back champs. Two beneficial factors come to mind when pondering Shaw as the Warriors head coach a.) he would implement a strong defensive system that the Warriors have been needing for years. b.) The knowledge and winning mentality that he developed from being under the wing of the zen master himself, Phil Jackson, would certainly rub off onto and refresh this teams mindset and attitude.

    2.) Trade Andris Biedrins. The 6th year center doesn’t seem to be getting better. In fact, its evident that his productivity is declining when you compare the spiked-haired ‘goose’ of the 2007-08 season, to the flat haired, seemingly unconfident Andris Biedrins of the 10-11 season. The lack of a true point guard can possibly bring him back to the old form that we saw when he played aside Baron Davis. But who could you get that can rebound just as good as him and most importantly score better and play above average defense? A center that has been overlooked: Marcin Gortat. He as been playing extremely well for the Suns and has been putting up big numbers for them as of late. 19 pts 17 rbs against BOS…20 pts 11 rbs against NOH…19 pts 11 rbs against MIL…UM, YES PLEASE. Hes averaging 25 minutes, 11 points, and 8 rebounds which is slightly better than Andris. However, Gortat is shooting close to 80% on FTs and plays solid defense. And I wouldn’t be surprised if an MVP caliber PG like Steve Nash is capable of slapping Biedrins back into his old double-double self; which is why I think PHX wouldn’t be opposed to a trade (Gortat is on a 6 mill 4 yr contract and Anris has 9 mill 5 yr left so filler would be needed-Grant Hill?)…lets not forget that Phx was interested in him back in 09 and Gooses’ disgruntled interview from Latvia expressing his frustration with the organization last off-season.

    3.) Improve the Warriors backcourt by increasing its size and decreasing its defensive deficiency. Many people claim that the Ellis-Curry backcourt wont lead to a successful playoff team and its hard to refute such an argument. There is no denying that Monta and Steph are two of the best scoring backcourts in the league. But if we are talking about being a legit playoff team or title contender, then one or the other has to go due to the lack of defense (which the DJ Augustine/S-Jax and B-Davis/ Eric Gordon backcourts can and have exploited) The 5th year guard Ellis is better than Curry. True. But the 2nd yr guard Curry is only going to get better and his passing ability and shooting touch makes his development worth the wait (it took Steve Nash 5 season to get it together). Like many fans have proposed before, a deal centering around Monta Ellis and Andre Iguadola would be the most reasonable trade considering that both players contracts match up. Iguadola is one of the best defensive fowards/guards in the NBA so pairing him up with his fellow Olympic gold winning teammate Stephen Curry would definitely be beneficial and more importantly make up for the lack of size and defense of our back court.

    A glimpse of what our starting line-up could be

    HC: Brian Shaw

    PG: Stephen Curry
    SG: Andre Iguadola
    SF: Dorell Wright
    PF: David Lee
    C: Marcin Gortat

    ^better defensive team w/ balanced offensive fire power

  • mac

    Look at any avenue to get Deron Williams or CP3…if that means Curry, Udoh, and more do it. Only other player to make a move on is Josh Smith.

    Curry’s value is very high with his rookie contract (2yrs left)

    Try to dump Beidrins for partial salary dump…no one will give us a full expiring for him..even a partial may be out of the question..next step package him with Curry..For good value! This will still be difficult.

    Target Free Agents for this year Tayshaun Prince, K. Perkins, and Carl Laundry. Signed to reasonable contracts, if we could get two out of the three, this would be huge. Tayshaun and Perkins are what the Warriors need. Will we win a title with them…No..Playoffs…Yes…Do not sign Gasol!!!

    If we can’t sign these guys then stay pat and don’t overpay someone to make a splash. Let this core grow and pray for Udoh to become special.

  • sad jose

    Wait. The best thing to do is to trade expiring contracts for Troy Murphy and a 2nd round pick (to be thrown in trash later). Then wait until the off-season to sign a superstar free agent for the $7 million in cap space.

    -Riley, Lacob and Son

  • Nicolai

    Cool offer for the camera, MT II. I’m shocked that you’ve only got 11 posts so far! Allow me to give it a shot. I could really use that camera for my tourism business!

    This is a bit of a tricky challenge you’ve put out there, as the winner will be decided Friday, the day AFTER the trade deadline.

    So anyone trying to get valuable expiring contracts for this year will have their proposals become moot, since it won’t be possible to deal for expirings any longer come Friday.

    For this reason, all of my deals will be taking place in the coming offseason.

    You’ve said that you want “realistic” offers. That eliminates the superstar offers, in my opinion. I know that is disappointing to our more optimistic fans, but teams simply won’t just give away their proven studs so easily.

    The Denver FO had a player that the whole league knew was leaving and even what team he’d be leaving for in a few months! They properly bided their time, started a bidding war, and six months after the original request was made they did their deal.

    I think thats the model for dealing superstars now, even for teams like the Hornets or the Jazz that might have players looking to leave in a few years. They can wait for the perfect deal, meaning no hasty moves, meaning no likely deal for us to get the super-studs anytime soon.

    So moving past the superstar deals, I think we can focus on the deals for important players that will change the make up of this team. Getting a center that can defend and is a threat in the post is essential and will help mask the defensive deficiencies at our other positions. Unfortunately these big, valuable guys don’t grow on trees and teams would rather overpay them than give them up. But we’ve got some pieces that could fetch us the center that we need.

    So as that is our most necessary acquisition, this is my first proposal…

    **Monta Ellis and Charlie Bell for Nene (extended at 5 years/$69M)**

    Why? Nene is one of the better one-on-one big man defenders in the league. He is a real threat in the post as his 63%fg and his 15ppg will tell you. His 270lb frame will clog the lane and not make it difficult for opposing centers and driving guards to score at the hoop…Nene is only 28 years old and injury free, so he fits in well with our core…What he lacks as a rebounder is covered up by David Lee, D-Wright, and Curry being good rebounders.

    Losing Ellis is difficult, as he is an elite scorer and a team leader, but he plays a position that is traditionally easy to fill. And I think its the statement that has been echoed again and again, even by Ellis and Don Nelson, but he and Curry are not at their best playing beside each other. Curry has the rookie deal and is more of a pure PG, so I think he is the one you build with more so than Ellis. Tough decision, but all of the important ones usually are.

    Denver does it to get some scoring back on their team after the departure of Melo. They need a new #1 scorer and Ellis fits the bill…Nene seems reluctant to re-sign in Denver due to their rebuilding and I wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted to go to a location a bit warmer and more in tune with his laid back Brazilian style. So that makes the Warriors an enticing locale (especially as the Florida teams are basically off the table due to cap reasons)…Denver adding Mozgov gives them some freedom to make a deal like this, as well…This trade would be done in the offseason, so Charlie Bell’s contract is actually somewhat enticing just in that it is an expiring contract.


    This leaves us with the issue of Biedrins. You don’t want to pay him $9M/yr to be a backup to a $14M/yr guy. So dealing him is essential.

    Quite frankly, I think getting salary relief would be acceptable for Andris. His play has sunk so much that this is almost a best case scenario.

    One thing he still can do is rebound the ball. So teams sorely needing this in their frontcourt would likely bite on a deal to get Andris. Here is my second proposal…

    **Biedrins to Toronto for Leandro Barbosa **

    Barbosa steps in as our instant scoring guard, but off the bench as a sixth man, the role he excelled in while playing in Phoenix. He is a low risk acquisition, as his contract goes away after one season. So its a nice test run of a player that could be quite valuable to us.

    Toronto does it to get a 7 foot rebounder next to Bargnani, who is a gifted scorer but couldn’t rebound to save his life.

    The Toronto fans I’ve spoken with really want Biedrins if it doesn’t cost them too much and this deal fits the bill.


    We now have our starting center with Nene and have added some bench support at the backup PG/SG position with Barbosa. What needs to be done now is sign or trade for a legit starting SG and add some bench help.

    After saving about $1.5M on the Barboasa-Biedrins deal we’d likely have about $48M committed in salaries (assuming Lin’s option is picked up and Amundson takes his option). Add a #10 draft pick, who would make about $2.3M this yr, and we’d be at $50M. Based on a likely $60M cap, this gives us $10M to spend on free agents.

    **For our first FA move I say we go for Arron Affalo with an offer of 3years/$21M**

    Affalo is a SG with great size (6’5, 215lbs) who doesn’t demand shots but is efficient in his shooting (50%fg, 44% 3pt fg and 13ppg). He is an excellent defender, something we need badly on the perimeter…His being a California guy doesn’t hurt in trying to lure him out to the Bay Area, as well.

    This leaves us with $4M to shore up our backup Center position. That’s not a lot of cash to sign a quality big man, but it can work.

    I know that he’s not our favorite guy due to his somewhat spastic play, but here is the signing I would make with the limited money we’ve got.

    ***Dan Gadzuric at 2 years/$6M***

    He’s big and for 10-15mpg of backup play he works at that price. He’s another California guy (sort of, via UCLA), so I think he’d give us priority to re-sign him.

    This doesn’t get into our drafting, which actually happens before free agency. But I’m assuming that as this is looking like a weak draft whoever we pick will not impact our immediate needs a whole lot, so the trades above would happen regardless of our selections.

    With the #10 pick (our estimated slot) and New Jersey’s 2nd rounder (I think the Murphy +2nd rd pick deal happens) here is what I’d like to do…

    #10 pick– Terrence Jones; Freshman SF from Kentucky…The kid is aggressive, tough, and gets to the rack (7fta/gm)…He’d be a GREAT compliment and potential future replacement for D.Wright at SF.

    #35 (pick from Nets)– Jeremy Tyler; 19 year old Center playing in Tokyo…This kid has fallen off big time since becoming the first 17 year old American to leave before finishing high school to take a paycheck in Europe (Israel for one very, very bad year)…He’s got some issues, definitely, but he has major league talent and likely a lot of his problems stem from being away from home and being immature…definitely worth the risk in the 2nd round as he could be a DeAndre Jordan type down the road.

    So here is the final roster, minus little veteran pickups in FA to round out the team.

    Affalo/(Barbosa)/Non-guaranteed vet a la Rodney Carney
    D.Wright/Terrence Jones
    Nene/Gadzuric/Jeremy Tyler

    I believe that this squad is improved defensively, can still bring plenty of offense, and really just gets a lot better by adding Nene to be our man in the middle.

    All of the deals are realistic, as are the draft picks, so I hope it meshes well with the nature of the challenge. I want that camera!! 😀

  • W’s in 2010

    There was a rumored Troy Murphy/Rip Hamilton swap back when NJ was trying to land Melo. NJ was getting a 1st round pick for taking Rip’s contract. Well hey, here we go.

    Trade 1:
    Gadzuric+BWright to NJ
    Murphy to DET
    Rip Hamilton+1stR(from DET)+2ndR(from NJ) to GS

    Trade 2:
    Monta to Denver
    Nene(w/extension signed) to GS

    PG S.Curry; A.Law; J.Lin
    SG R.Hamilton; R.Williams; C.Bell
    SF D.Wright; V.Radmanovic
    PF D.Lee; E.Udoh
    C Nene; A.Biedrins; L.Amundson

    There’s alot of money committed going forward, but hey we weren’t gonna be under the cap anyways. We re-stock picks. And we’ll have a more conventional team, that will make the playoffs every year.

  • sco_lo_pro

    Expirings for Antawn Jamison – brings vet to the team, fan favorite, good locker room guy, and most importantly adds depth at 3 and optionality for rotations (ie moving antawn or dorrel to the 2 while Monta rests.

    In the offseason, sign Kaman or DeAndre Jordan.

    People want the magic bullet, but we need to string together several consecutive winning seasons before we attract a superstar. It’s not realistic to ask if this team is going to win a championship. Any team that is starting where we are starting from is years away. What is realistic to ask is will this team produce a winning season? Add Jamison+Kaman/Jordan and you are on the right track. Above 500 no doubt.

    Just win Warriors. The rest will take care of itself.

  • Thanks Marcus!
    If I were Joe Lacob wanting to turn around a losing franchise into legit contenders for an NBA Championship, I’d first do a little soul searching…

    Do I want to have fun tinkering with my shiny new toy or do I seriously want to build an NBA Champion?

    If it’s the former, knock yourself out. I’ll work at Dairy Queen if and when Mark Cuban-type owners ever win a title.

    If it’s the latter, I’d hire the best basketball man alive as team President – someone who’s done it before – and trust HIS instincts, not my own, and let him and his team make the crucial basketball decisions. Sorry, as smart as I am at my businesses, I must set my ego aside and relize I don’t have any credible experience building an NBA Champion.

    I’d make my son his #1 assistant so that the kid can learn from the best for one day he shall inherit the earth.

    And then I’d oversee everything else like moving the franchise to a more desirable location in a new state of the art facility – say, San Francisco – so that fans continue to and free agents will want to come to the games.

    Hire Jerry West. The Logo. Legendary player, legendary GM. Put together the Showtime Lakers. Traded for Kobe Bryant. Developed Mitch Kupchak. Turned the hopeless Memphis Grizzlies into a playoff team – then when the owner got in his business, signed Brian Cardinal and probably influenced the Pau Gasol trade!

  • dw

    So we have to buy the tickets and make the trades now? Geez!

    Nice camera though Marcus, ill try to get something thoughtful to you by Friday.

  • CC

    Keep young athletic big men and build within. Train your people with an experience coach or coaches and GM. Stop trading your players away for nothing. When you have a valuable asset stop giving it away. Always remember basketball is an inside out game. Your offence and defense will be as good as the people that play around the basket take you. The current team as assembled has the worst big guys assembled for a pro team and the coaching staff seems to have no clue about running the offense and defense through them which handicaps your team from the onset. Basketball people call it protecting the paint on both ends. To see the coach keep putting one player in the game that could not get a rebound to save his life and he keeps playing him night in and night out is just horrible. Finally, stop giving away talent for nonthing be it good contracts or bad contracts. ie magetti, jackson, morrow, watson and currently wright. The story has it that another non athlectic big guy with a fat contract is on the way.

  • Japhapa20

    Several Moves that can help the GWs:

    Sign either Yao Ming or Greg Oden during the Off-season:

    Yao Ming would provide a presents in the middle offensively and defensively (Mostly Offensively) in the middle that the Warriors haven’t had for a long long time. Yes, he is injury prone, but if they can smartly work in incentives into the contract for games played the contract could be for less or at least friendly then Biedrins.

    Greg Oden even with the injury history still has potential and has shown that he can play defense, rebound and has an offensive game still in the works. He will at least power down a dunk better then any big currently on the GW roster. High Risk and High Reward signing for most likely a bargin bin price. Same thing with Yao if you smartly work in incentives for games played then you can at least save your self from a horrible contract. Plus Biedrins is your safety net as far as injury even though he would be then considered an over paid back up Center.

    Attempt to sign or trade for Nene:

    Most likely will not ever happen he will either stay with Denver or go to a contender, but we must express interest.

    Strengthen and add depth to the bench:

    Signing Michael Redd would add another legitimate scorer off the bench. He is in the last year of his contract and is coming off injury so there should be less interest then say a JR Smith.

    Trade for Hasheem Thabeet even though he still needs a ton of work in regards to the knowledge of just playing basketball in general he would add some depth and size up front and he would come cheap.

    Sign a Keith Bogans or Corey Brewer or Kelenna Azibukke (Part 2) or Shane Battier. To add depth at the swing man position in regards to playing defense for bigger guards.

    Sign JR Smith facilitate a bigger guard and scorer, but will most likely be too costly.

  • PDXDubs

    1. Trade Monta Ellis for Josh Smith (trade machine says it improves both teams, gives Ws a very good defensive SF).

    2. Trade Biedrins to Celts for expiring contract and first round pick (Start Gadzuric/Udoh the rest of this season).

    3. Lay off this FA class (won’t be hard because of lockout). Save money for 2012.

    4. Draft a well rounded SG (must have some D!, and not Monta “look at me get steals” D). Let’s say Harrison Barnes. Along with a center with the celts pick.

    5. After dumping all salaries prior to 2012 FA (retaining only Curry, Lee, Udoh, Lin, 2011 picks and Dorell), sign best available center (McGee, Hibbert, R Lopez all restricted; Howard and Kaman unrestricted).

    This gives the Warriors a 2012 lineup of:
    Josh Smith/Wright
    FA Center/Drafted Center

    If the Warriors pick this year turns out to be a solid player, even getting Kaman for center would put this team in the West Elite. Nene at center would be cool too.

    The real point of this post is: Trade Ellis at his peak value for a plus defensive wing player, unload Biedrins’ contract, draft well, and dont give out any big contracts to undeserving players. (see Nate Davis’ article yesterday regarding Melo trade and the value of “stars”)

  • Kenny Seagle, Emperor of the North

    how 2 fix the warriors….

    dont follow any fan trade ideas.

    like trading 4 kaman, who is injured all the time…. or jr smith, biggest punk in the NBA

    let riley do his job…. he’s been pretty friggun good at it…. no fan thought up the brilliant move 2 get ridda the ball-movement-killing maggettee or the signing of dorell


    ANY QUESTIONS???????

  • jscrilla

    1. Fire Rowell.
    2. Promote son to President
    3. Make Jeremey Lin Starter
    4. Trade Steph Curry, Monta Ellis for Landry Fields.
    5. Trade Dorrell Wright for Josh Childress
    6. Play self at SG.
    7. Move team to Palo Alto.

  • dadney


    the trade for murphy and buying him out and getting a second round pick was a good move at this point.

    the problems we have are mainly the 5 spot and our bench.

    best bet is to save the money. and offer Tyson Chandler a nice contract to pull him away from dallas. bc nene isnt going anywhere. no one is gonna take biedrins whack contract and so he’ll be our way overpaid second stringer giving us some depth off the bench.

    re-sign reggie williams. go after sebastian telfair and bring back mickael pietrus to give our bench some depth. & for a reasonable price.

    2011-2012 Roster would be

    1. Curry / Telfair / Lin
    2. Ellis / Williams
    3. Wright / Pietrus
    4. Lee / Udoh
    5. Chandler / Biedrins

    & an open roster spot if we end up drafting someone good.

  • Michael

    JOE’S TO-DO LIST (Assuming $60 mil Cap)
    1) Trade Biedrins & Bell to Orlando for JRich to clear cap room.
    Cap Room $30 mil
    1) Re-sign Reggie
    Remaining Cap $29 mil
    2) Draft for talent: Jimmer!
    Remaining Cap $28 mil
    3) Open the Wallet, Sign at least 1 of the Following Centers: Plan A: Tyson Chandler or Nene, Plan B: Perkins or Dalembert
    Remaining Cap: $15 mil
    4) Fill the bench, Five spots.
    Forwards (2 or 3): Battier , Landry, Glen Davis, Kenyon Martin, Diaw, Reggie Evans, Prince, David West
    Center (1): Kwame Brown, Yao, Oden or Dalembert
    Guards (2 or 3): Nick Young, Mo Williams, JR Smith, TJ Ford, JRich, Hill, Barbosa
    Remaining Cap: Open the wallet pay the luxury tax.

    2011-2012 Champion Roster
    G: Curry, Ellis, Mo Willliams, Nick Young, Lin, Jimmer
    F: Lee, DWright, Udoh, Battier, Reggie Williams, Kenyon
    C: Chandler, Dalembert, Yao

  • JWagner

    The NBA is a stars league.  You need to have a star, or multiple, to contend for a title.  Look at the Lakers (Kobe, Gasol, Odom), Celtics (Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo), Spurs (Duncan, Park, Ginobili). In the “new” NBA it seems stars only want to go to teams with other stars (the super friends in Miami & the now Anthony teaming up in New York with Amare).  While Dwight Howard, CP3 & Deron Williams will be coming available soon and fit the A star list, I don’t see the Warriors on their roadmap.  We don’t have another star to pair them with (maybe somebody lines up to play with Curry, but certainly not Ellis or David Lee), we don’t have a great coach and there is no legacy of winning championships.

    Let’s be real.  The Warriors are probably not going to throw around crazy money in the free agency market to land two or three stars. Even if they were willing, I’m not sure they could actually beat other teams out (great basketball cities like Chicago & New York have struck out the last few years).

    But, there is one recent championship team that the Warriors could model themselves after.  The 2004 Detroit Pistons.  That team was a collection of good players, but had no star. In fact they have a number of relatable assets: Rip = Ellis, Billups = Curry, Wright = Prince. Even David Lee could do a decent Sheed impression by stretching the defense with his outside shot.  But the Pistons had something in their DNA that the Warriors are missing.  A commitment to Defense. Ben Wallace epitomized that team with his intensity on rebounding & defense. The Warriors don’t have that, but I think they can find their inner Piston and turn themselves into a contender (you have to be optimistic when rooting for the Warriors).

    Here’s my three part plan:
    1. The Warriors need to build this team through the draft.  Just like Gary St. Jean did (wanted to see if you are paying attention).  They need to take a moneyball approach and hire away the scouts and statisticians from the Spurs.  The Spurs are constantly getting valuable guys to fill roles. Yes, role players.  Guys who know exactly what they are asked to do and are capable of performing those roles. That means finding inside presence to defend and rebound.  Look they are going to continue to be in that high lottery selection and they probably won’t be getting the next Blake Griffen anytime soon.  But they can certainly find bangers in those draft spots who can contribute which is what this team needs. Stop drafting soft, skinny, tweeners and get some meat in the post to plug our weaknesses.

    2. Bring in a new coach who will make this team play D.  Keith Smart seems like a good guy who can coach, but the NBA is about motivating millionaires to make sacrifices for a championship.  I don’t see Smart as the guy who turns David Lee into Dennis Rodman on D (actually, I don’t even think that’s possible). Sorry, for continuing the Pistons theme but bring Bill Laimbeer. He’s got that competitive fire to him and having coached the WNBA for a while is probably desperate enough for the job. I don’t buy that a small backcourt can’t play D.  Joe Dumars & Isaiah Thomas make lousy executives, but they could lock down any NBA backcourt.  I think another bad boy could help the Warriors make that transition. If not, there’s a good chance Robert Parish comes out of the stands and throws a punch at him and Bill Simmons would give us a lot of press time.

    3. Rebuild the bench through free agency.  The Warriors did a great job with Dorrell Wright. They signed a reasonable contract and are getting max value. They need to do the same and find a backup point guard (e.g. somebody like Steve Blake who can run the point, hit and open shot but doesn’t have to do too much). We don’t have the pieces to get a star in free agency, but we can find guys to plug our weaknesses.  We need to stop asking guys who are not stars (e.g. David Lee) to be stars. Use the 2004 Piston model and build this team around fundamental basketball.

    If that doesn’t work in 3 years, borrow a billion dollars from Zuck, buy the Lakers and have them switch uniforms.

  • Damon

    The two trades i would make are Brandon Wright and Amundson to the Griz for Thabeet and Radmanovic and Gadzuric to the Bobcats for Wallace and Kwame Brown.

    The Griz are shopping Thabeet and we can give them some expiring contracts and maybe a draft pick/cash could be included by either side. This gets the Griz two serviceable players and unload Thabeet’s contract. For us it gives us a young center that will get a chance to start over and only has one more year on his contract after this year. So we would be trading expiring contracts this year for an expiring contract for next year.

    The bobcats are trying to get expiring contracts and again drat picks and/or cash can be involved by either team. This gives them two contracts that are expiring and helps them to unload Wallace’s contract. However for us it gives us a good/great player who could fit in on the team and a serviceable center. Additionally Wallace’s contract expires next season so there is not a lot of long term commitment to him. Also we are continuing the trend of switching our expiring contracts this year to expiring contracts next year. the advantage of this is since not many people want expiring contracts this year they may want them next year when the new collective bargaining contract is effect.

  • First, I would just like to get to know you. Who’s your daddy, and what does he do?

    Then, I would trade for Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy, Jr. The return of Murphleavy, baby!

  • WetLunGz

    I would make the trades i made in nba 2k11, when I first loaded a franchise wit the warriors:
    Biedriins/bwright/ ’12 2nd rnd pick- kevin love (this was my most important move cu it got rid of biedrins shitty contract, and bwright for the best rebounding big man in the nba…
    Gadz/reggie- corey brewer (perimeter defense)
    Lin/bell/lou/law- raja bell (perimeter d/3 point shooter), cj miles (salary) and earl nwatson(decent bu pg)
    David lee- tyson chandler ’11 1st rnd/ ’12 1st rnd (dunno why they made this trade but I love all the picks)
    New line-up:
    Ellis/R. Bell/brewer

    Now In real life I don’t think min trades love wtout getting atleast 1 or 2 first round picks so mite have to trade for him after acquiring piks in dlee deal.

    Also by getting rid of lee/biedrins/and the now oft hurt amundson, wed have more than enough cap room to sign any player wed want in the upcomking FA period…I will have more details on contracts later, I gotta go waste a day at DMV…

  • WetLunGz

    Since some moves have been made since I did my last franchise I’m going to start another one today with an uodated roster and c iif I can do better…more to come later…

  • Bassel

    Move Monta Biedrins and expirings and get back Nene in a S&T. Sign Battier in the offseason and bring in a Raja Bell like player at the 2. Move DWright off the bench and Draft the BPA.

    You’d have a team of basketball players
    Curry/R. Bell/Battier/Lee/Nene

    That would be step 1, but that team is a 6 seed overnight, once you build a bench, then you can make the bigger leap forward.

  • John S

    1) win as many games as possible this year to build up the trust of the fanbase
    2) draft Jan Veseley with late lottery pick
    3) sign Greg Oden
    4) trade Monta for Iguodala
    5) trade Biedrins for future picks
    6) tank 2011/12 season in order to draft franchise player by severely limiting Oden’s minutes and playing the young prospects as much as possible for quicker development; franchise player = Austin Rivers
    7) Oden at full strength thanks to additional rest and new Warriors training staff

    2012/13 Roster
    PG: S. Curry / A. Rivers
    SG: A. Rivers / R. Williams (re-signed)
    SF: A. Iguodala / D. Wright
    PF: D. Lee / J. Veseley
    C: G. Oden / E. Udoh / L. Amundson

  • M

    Get more involved with this Utah / New Jersey trade and shed some contracts for potential.


    It’s a bold gamble, but one that would give the Warriors a nice rotation, better defense, and some depth in the post. Most importantly it puts only one guy (Lee) above rookie wage scale, giving the team the ability to move forward with adding pieces to a young core.

    With superstars only wanting to go where celebrities live (New York, Miami, or Los Angeles), unless Lacob plans to move to the team to one of those cities he needs to build the team with youth and potential and keep his long term costs down so when that the youth begin to show promise he can go for it all and open up a serious window of contention. Draft a young wing player in the draft this upcoming off season and watch this team grow together.

  • joe suspect

    Overall Philosophy:
    1) Acquire players that add more value and contribute to winning than their contracts are worth (see Stephen Curry & Dorell Wright).
    2) Trade and/or do not sign players that do not meet rule #1 (see Monta Ellis and, to a lesser extent, David Lee)
    3) Spend as much as the NBA salary cap rules allow while also adhering to rule #1 (i.e. don’t be Isiah Thomas).
    4) Spend more on scouting/player analysis (better drafts, finding 2nd round sleepers, better judgement for extensions and free-agent signings) and player development (big man and free throw coaches, anyone? you’re not going likely trade AB, so why not try to “fix” him?)

    This season:
    1) Attempt to trade expiring contracts (Gadzuric, Radmanovic, B. Wright, and acquire 2nd round picks for 2012 & 2013. Buyout anyone not traded and sign d-leaguers for extended tryouts.
    2) Play Jeremy Lin/Bench Acie Law. Neither is championship-level player, but Lin will be here in 2011-12 so we might as well get him more experience and see if he’s worth keeping.
    3) Play whose under contract in 2012: Ellis, Curry, Lee, D. Wright, Biedrins, Udoh, Amundson, Williams, Lin , Bell (garbage time only) and any d-leaguers. Bench everyone else.

    1) Hire championship-level coaching & GM staff.
    2) Attempt to trade Bell/Amundson for picks.
    3) Do not extend qualifying offer for B. Wright.
    4) Attempt to trade Ellis for more efficient and better defending 2 or combo guard.
    5) Only extend Udoh if he’s shown actual results, not just potential. We don’t need another B. Wright.
    6) Resign Williams, but don’t overpay (<= 4.5 mil/yr).
    7) Consider resigning Vlad at vet minimum.
    8) Target affordable, value-adding, under 30 yo free-agents: Kris Humphries, Kendrick Perkins, Chuck Hayes, Josh McRoberts, Luc MBah a Moute, Marcus Thornton)

  • Francis A.

    To put it bluntly the “easiest” way to build a contender is to find that HOF player. Almost every championship team is built around a HOF type player. The last team and only team to win it all without a HOF player is the Larry Brown Pistons. Look back at the list of championship teams and you see names like MJ, Kobe, Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq, etc. The importance of this true “superstar” can be seen with what happened in Cleveland. Before LBJ, the Cavs were insignificant. Once he was drafted the franchise became instant contenders and once he left they’re a team that lost 26 games in a row.

    So to put it bluntly the “easiest” way to build a contender is to find your superstar. Ideally, my superstar plays both ends of the floor at a high level (Melo and Amare do not count) or is able to contribute in another way other than scoring (again Melo and Amare do not count). Once you find that superstar with great management the rest of the pieces should fall into place. Every championship team is able to fill out their rotation and bench with great trades and discounted signings (Gasol to LA, Shaq to LA/MIA, Rodman to Bulls, KG/Allen to BOS, etc). If you want to see an extreme example of this look to South Beach and what having Wade on their team did for them they got Shaq and then LBJ and Bosh. If your superstar plays defense, then most likely your team will play defense as well.

    So the “simple” plan to build a true contender, not just a perennial 2nd round playoff team (Hello, New York Knicks!) is to 1) Acquire a HOF type player and 2) hire great management.

    Looking at the Warriors roster it is very obvious this HOF type player does not exist. Curry possibly, but he has yet to become a double digit assist man. Ellis, Lee, and Biedrins are what they are at this point. Ditto for Wright. Udoh is far too old, a terrible rebounder, and lacking the offensive game to be consider a HOF type player. So basically the Warriors have a bunch of players that I would consider expendable. However, just because they are expendable doesn’t mean you would just give them away.

    So how will the Warriors acquire this superstar?

    One way is to build through the draft. In the 2011 draft, if the Warriors deem one of the college kids like Jared Sullinger, Perry Jones, or Kyrie Irving to be that superstar type player then they need to be willing to part with assets (even Curry) in order to improve what is likely to be a late lottery pick. If there is no stud in the draft, the Warriors need to move the 2011 1st rounder for ideally a 2012 1st rounder (from another lottery team) and whatever other assets they can acquire (more draft picks, expiring contracts, rookie deal prospects) because the true prize can be be found in the summer of 2012.


    Yes, 2012 as in the year that Dwight Howard exercises his Early Termination Option (ETO) on his contract. What do the Warriors need? A big man who can defend, rebound, and score or as Larry Riley recently said, “Bill Russell reincarnated.” Warriors, meet Dwight Howard. Now, CP3 and Deron could be FAs in 2012, but with Curry/Ellis and questions about CP3s knee, I would pass and just focus on Superman.

    So part of the plan for 2012 is to make sure that the 7 million dollars in cap space for 2011 is used to acquire 1 year rental players. The money looks to be better spent over multiple players rather than one player worth 7 million. The Warriors are not a 7 million dollar player away from being a contender. Also, it is easier to move smaller contracts rather than one large contract.

    During the season the Warriors need to try and get into extend and trade talks involving Dwight Howard if it looks like he’s ready to bolt. The Warriors could offer a package of pick two from Ellis/Curry/D.Wright + Biedrins + 1st rounders for Howard. This would leave the team with Howard, David Lee, and one from Wright/Curry/Ellis (preferably Curry is kept). For sure Ellis or Biedrins need to be in the package since both are the highest paid quality players we can give up. It would leave the team bare to the bones, but again the Warriors would have their superstar and that is the first step and most critical step in building a true contender.

    If Howard, shows no interest in an extended and trade or is playing it cool with the Magic then the Warriors need to focus on dumping Ellis, Biedrins, or Lee for expiring deals to sign Howard in UFA. Heading into 2012 the Warriors are on the hook for roughly $50 million between Ellis, Lee, Wright, Biedrins, Curry, Udoh, and 2011 rookie. With MAX players costing around $20 million, the Warriors need to trade 2 of 3 between Biedrins, Lee, and Ellis for expiring deals. Biedrins and Ellis are easiest to trade because their deals would only run for 2 more years at $11 and $9 million each, both enticing pieces for championship contenders. With Ellis and Biedrins traded that would leave the Warriors with Curry, Lee, and Dorrell Wright and enough cash to sign Howard.

    At that point, the Warriors have done all they could do. It’s up to Howard now. If he signs with the Warriors great – Curry, Wright, Lee, and Howard is another lockdown perimeter defender away from being a championship team! If not then the Warriors would have excellent cap space, draft picks, and presumably a crappier team in order to increase their chances of finding a stud in the draft with a higher lottery pick.

    That’s the harsh reality of the NBA. Without a superstar/HOF type talent your team is not a true contender. Sure the Warriors can target and trade for players like Danny Granger, Gerald Wallace, and Andre Igoudala, Kendrick Perkins, Greg Oden, etc and end up as perennial playoff teams, but none of those players are clearly HOF players. You can’t add one of those guys and confidently say the Warriors can compete for a title… not with Wade/LBJ/Bosh, Rose/Boozer/Noah, or Durant/Westbrook. Can we take the Larry Brown Detroit Pistons route? Maybe, but looking back at NBA history shows us that they are an anomaly… not to mention the starting 5 could all play defense something that most of the Warriors’ best player don’t do. So Warriors fans, the only way to become “true contenders” is not to build a team around the instant gratification of “making playoffs,” but to make tough decisions and shrewd moves with the current roster and get really lucky (in the draft or with Dwight Howard). All things that are not the previous regime’s forte. So we’ll just have to stick together because it’s going to get worse, before it can get better.

  • jclay09

    First things first, I’d deal Murphy and Vlad to the Jazz for Kirilenko, Raja Bell, and Ronnie Price. Saves the Jazz ~$3M to help get them under the luxury tax, helps the Warriors get the talent level needed to make a move into the playoffs in a severely weakened Western Conference.

    Bell provides the wing defender the team has sorely been lacking who still can hit shots and gives them a versatile big man who can run with the team and guard virtually any position on the court. The Warriors still have Kirilenko’s contract coming off the books this offseason giving them enough to still sign mid-level exception type player they were already looking at signing.

    In the offseason…

    Resign Reggie. Resign either Kirilenko or Tayshaun Prince to keep the versatility of a bench player coming in who can guard 2s, 3s, and 4s or move on to a Grant Hill or Shane Battier type to come in at SF.

    Draft Jordan Hamilton, Derrick Williams, Kawhi Leonard, Kenneth Faried, Patric Young, or Chris Singleton with the 1st rounder and draft a proven college player with one elite skill (Dejaun Blair/Paul Milsap), an athletic freak (Deandre Jordan/Monta Ellis/Gilbert Arenas), or a Euro who won’t be over for a year or two but is still a very good prospect (Luis Scola) in the 2nd round obviously depending on who is available. Targets would include Quincy Acy, Elias Harris, Renardo Sidney, Nolan Smith, Kyle Singler, JaJuan Johnson.

    Move into 2011/2012 season rolling


    and a 2nd round pick like Nolan Smith or JaJuan Johnson in the D-League.

    The team has a good mix of young players and veterans, offensive and defensive players, along with players who play both sides of the ball and have the versatility to move between positions. They can go small, can go big, enough bodies to throw at a team with a dominant big man like Howard. They’re a playoff team this season and set up as the 2nd strongest young team in the Western Conference.

  • Kaitin B

    The key is to get Biedrins playing well. We need him to come close to averaging 10pts. 10 reb. that gave him his lucrative contract. He would have to be pushed immensely by the coaching staff to become more aggressive, up to the point where the team can showcase his potential talents to the league in roughly 30min. of play time. By increasing his value this is what I came up with:

    Warriors receive:
    Greg Oden
    Joel Przybilla

    Blazers receive:
    Chris Kaman
    A. Aminu

    Clippers receive:
    E. Udoh
    $2 million Cash Compensation (for the books)

    This 3 way trade adds up for each team. Perhaps the involved parties could pursue sign and trade deals with the players that won’t be under contract. By securing Oden even with his history of injuries, the Warriors are receiving huge potential for a small price. As we all know, when Amare was younger, he had a season ending injury but battled back to perform at an hall of fame level. Bynum too succumbed to multiple injuries but is still able to put up big numbers. Biedrins as we all know once had upside but not at the elite performing center position. We can’t get a championship with him period. However, if somehow he can put up numbers like he did a few years ago, the Blazers might be willing to pursue the trade. They are definitely very reserved and arent keen on trading Oden, but by receiving Kaman who still is a solid big man, and a young talented potential in Aminu, it might be worth the offer.
    The clippers are not losing very much but receiving a great rookie in Udoh. The books add up, and everyone is satisfied. The trade must go through. What do you think???

  • Monta got SNUBBED

    Monta,Biedrins, and Brandon Wright and a 2nd round pick for Lamarcus Aldridge, Pryzbilla, and Oden. We get bigger very quick. We 1st sign Oden to a small 2 0r 3 year extension. Oden is a huge risk I know, but if he’s healthy we get a steal. Pryzbilla is gone after this year. David Lee or Aldridge can both play the 3,4, or 5. We will have depth.Wright can play as a tall shooting guard if he gets a litke faster.

    C-Oden, Lee, Udoh
    PF- Lee, Aldridge, Udoh
    SF- ALdridge, D.Wright
    SG- D. Wright, Reggie Williams(resign), Bell
    PG- Curry, Lin.

    THats your core players. Oden, Lee, Aldridge, Udoh, D.Wright,Reggie Williams, Bell, Curry, and Lin.

    We let Admuson, Radmonovic, Acie Law, and Pryzbilla leave with those inflated contracts, and we pick up a few other players we will be legit.

    Starting 5
    PF- LEE
    SF Aldridge
    SG- D.Wright
    PG- Curry

    Subs: Udoh,Reggie, Bell, Lin, and whoever we pick up.

  • Ignacio Sandoval

    Trade Biedrins and Curry for a quality big man that can actually score. Ellis should give point guard a shot. Curry is a major liability on defense. When Ellis
    has a subpar game its because Curry has the ball too much and Ellis always has to guard the big guard, instead Ellis should be shutting down the opponents P.G. Curry’s lacksadaisical attitude sucks.Can’t penetrate a paper bag and can’t stop anyone.Get rid of him!!!!

  • Richard

    I would do a 3 team trade with Philly and OKC. Here is what I propose:

    Golden State acquires: Andre Iguodola and Elton Brand
    Philly acquires: Monta Ellis, Nenad Kristic and Morris Peterson
    OKC acquires: Andris Biedrins and Brandan Wright

    Why the warriors would do this, it would give them one hell of a team plain and simple. Also ESPN projects the Warriors to win 11 more games. Imagine a lineup with:

    Brand/Gadz or some free agent pick up Adrien?

    Philly would want to do this to simply unload Brand’s horrible contract and they would get back a guy in Monta that could help take pressure off guys like Turner and Holiday and allow them to develop more.

    OKC would do this because they are desperate for a big man that can rebound and was rumored to be interested in Biedrins, I would say give him away for all I care. I don’t get how you can stay in the league without a jump shot and shoot 31% from the line.

  • eric

    Not to knock anyone here on the forums, but the Ws have tried pretty hard to get iguodala and philly is not going to let up anytime soon. There’s no need to trade for oden because he’s going to be a free agent and it’ll be easier to sign him then, than to trade udoh/other players.

  • Jesse

    1) Trade Beans for expirings (addition by subtraction)
    2) Gadz+BWright+Picks+cash for G. Wallace (before Portland does)

    Offseason comes:

    3) Overpay (since we have to) for D. Jordan


    There, for once we’re legit.

  • Andrew Rosenblum

    Hi — I’m trying to think of trades that both teams would realistically do (i.e. no Charlie Bell for Derrick Rose stuff)

    #1) Trade Stephen Curry, Bell, and Radmonovic for Josh Smith. The Hawks need a point guard, since Bibby is over the hill, and also need cap relief, since they have so much $ committed to Johnson, Smith, Horford, and Marvin Williams. The Warriors would lose the talented scorer and passer Curry, but get J. Smith, a guy who can play tenacious man defense, rebound, and fill the lane, from the small forward position, allowing D. Wright to move to 2 and Monta to play combo guard. Smith could also play 4, since he has a good back-to-the-basket game, which the Warriors desperately need. Monta would need to play 1, which is not a natural fit, but he is fast enough to initiate the offense and guard PGs, and Dorell Wright would help offset his so-so defense.

    2) Trade Troy Murphy’s expiring contract to Detroit for Richard Hamilton and $6 million cash.
    Detroit owes $24 million over the next two years to an alienated star whose coach won’t play him. But he can still score the ball and play D. If Detroit will eat $3 million a year of the remaining years, the Warriors get a valuable piece for their weak bench. Alternately, he might start, with Wright playing the 6th man.

  • itsagreattimeout

    1) Move the team to SF as soon as they can (probably at the end of their Oakland lease)
    2) Trade Curry for CP3. CP3 is unhappy in NO and they don’t want to lose him for nothing. I think we could trade Curry and not much else to get him. They will want a young talent like Steph.
    3) After years of optimism I’m really souring on Biedrins. I would actually trade him for expirings/pick and use that money to sign someone else.
    4) esentially the W’s need to be the best/first among the vultures to grab talent from teams that are giving up (Utah/Denver/Charlotte). Improve incrementally. Be a regular playoff contender to build respect. Then players will want to sign with us as free agents. We don’t have any respect right now. We can’t hope to attract FAs until we’ve won some more. That will ultimately be our hope.
    Improve incrementally, don’t give up value/picks, seize opportunities, and hope to get lucky some day on a Free Agent.

  • Dalton C.

    First and foremost, stop it with the poor shot selection, when nothing is going down, drive to the rim and finish …
    some points > no points

    but i I also say keep the current components [excluding T. Murphy; and unless a trade before tmrw occurs that would better our situation], & the base element in the equation is def there … the warriors can score/get up and down. now if we can tenaciously instill defense as well as a nasty rebounding attitude, we’ll be chilling in the playoffs. the warriors have shown that when they can defend AND out-rebound the opposition, they are a force. we out-score with ease, until we give up defensively, which is when the bad shots are thrown up and next thing you know we have lost our tie at halftime and the game goes to the opposing team [a la last night’s loss Vs. BOS; and the countless times beforehand where warrior d does not see the light of the 2nd half]. Granted all this goes for not because just moments before this post, gsw said bye-bye to gadzooks and b-wright … once again we need some big men, preferably those who protect baskets. we have enough scorers we now need defensive utilities. we have the 5th leading scorer, the best sophomore in the league, the nba’s most improved and a former all-star; yet they all rarely play up to those stats/titles. seems to me if the attributes that those titles usually entail present themselves along some strengthened defense we’d be great.

    a few moves i’d love to see go down prior to tmrw’s deadline :

    maybe Vlad [+ Cash] for Paul Milsap?
    the Jazz are obviously rebuilding from sticks and stones … why not? could be that back up center, might be undersized, but he’s beast material and will grab boards. vlad’s cool and all but i’d drop him in a second for an “established” big.

    Reggie Williams + Charlie Bell for Courtney Lee
    what can i say? far-fetched i know but hey can’t blame me for trying. Shoo i’d even trade R. Williams for Terrence Williams

    Maybe then check out Jeff Adrien again [10-day of course] or possibly Joe Alexander?

    at this point i’d like to drop C. Bell, and maybe even R. Williams … pick up some pple that’ll play defense when our top scorers don’t. yaaahmeeeeeaaan?!

    other than that, please no oden. he’s damaged goods. waste of a trade. trading beans at this point might depend on what we can get for him, i’m only for it if it’ll be a nice addition instead of a useless subtraction. and i don’t think it’d be good to split up the backcourt, nothing good will come from it; have them play some on the ball d and thats about it, they already get steals so they’re part of the way there.

    DiSCLAiMER, i am just a fan thinking, do not take my head off for these ideas if you disagree … but hey we all want to see the warriors succeed am i right?

  • Clb

    Trade Biedrins and Brandon Wright to Atlanta for Josh Smith and Crawford, but since they have traded back-up center Gadzuric and Wright this morning the best option now seems a 3 way deal with Atlanta and Kings…

    Warriors get: Josh Smith and Samuel Dalembert
    Atlanta gets: Andres Biedrins and Aumundson and 2nd round pick
    Kings Get: Jamal Crawford and Troy Murphey Contract and Atlanta first round pick

  • GSW Truth

    Fire Larry Riley. Keep Smart and Curry. Wholesale the rest of the team for draft picks and rebuild. This team cannot win, and has not won…for years. I discount the we believe year because those players aren’t here. They are gone, traded away for magic beans. To win a championship you need a winning mentality. You need the ability to see a city like Utah wanting to avoid Melo drama and openening the door for getting a superstar. Not only do we not get Deron but we trade two expiring contracts with NJ for one expiring.

    The first move is to fire Larry Riley. He is inept at making deals and does not have a pedigree of a champion. Smart is a keeper worth a small investment. If he can do what he has done this season all he needs is the talent. Look at Doc Rivers’ first seasons with Boston. Next is to pick one piece and sell everything else. No more holding onto to hopes of Andris getting back to what he was, or how close Monte was to be an all-star or justifying David Lee. I like all of them but they do not help us win. Once we create an environment of winning then we can start winning.

    1. Fire all remaining Cohen era management
    2. Build around Curry, get rid of everything else and build through the draft
    3. Keep Smart

    Once you have the pieces and have rebuilt an environment of winning then re-evaluate whether Smart can take your team to the Finals and win. Until then why waste time and money with random coaches brought in to win now with a bad news bears lineup.

  • RK

    T. Murphy (expiring), R. Williams (expiring), A. Biedrins, and a 2014 lottery-protected 1st round pick
    P. Millsap, A. Kirelenko (expiring)

    Why the Jazz would do it? It would save them $5 million this year and put them under the luxury tax. Future pick to build through draft.

    Why the Warriors would do it? Saves them $$ in the long-term by getting rid of Biedrens contract. Millsap is a bruiser that Warriors badly need.

  • justin

    1. Hold onto Steph and Monta until you can get a serious upgrade at the 3,4 or 5
    Monta and Curry can both be number 2 or 3 guys on a CHAMPIONSHIP team. David Lee is an awsome guy as the 4th guy on a Championship team.

    The key is holding these chips until we can convince a true #1 guy on a championship team to come here cause we’re never getting the number 1 pick in a Duncan draft, the league won’t allow it.

    Dorell Wright is a #5 guy on a championship team. Any trades of these guys are only setting us back or fighting to stay mediocre.

    2. trade expirings for Ramon sessions and other consistent bench role players. This should be easy enough even for W’s management.

    So there it is, get a consistent bench and let our good players grow while we wait for our chance to give the keys over to a SUPERSTAR…not an injury replacement all star playing for a coach who inflates numbers. Monta is better than Igoudala, Josh Smith and any other idea posted here…lateral movement is poitless…keep the guys we love and it will make it that much sweeter.

  • RK

    T. Murphy and 2014 lottery-protected 1st round pick
    G. Wallace

    Why the Bobcats would do it? It saves them money by getting the expiring contract and they get a 1st round draft pick to build with.

    Why the Warriors would do it? It would give them a defensive-minded SF who can run. It gives them a lot of options with Monta, Steph, Wallace, and D. Wright at the 1, 2, and 3 positions.

  • GSW

    This is still Chris Cohan’s team. What has changed besides swapping Nellie for Smart? I sure can’t think of anything. Its the same tired story, trade deadline is tomorrow and the Warriors haven’t done anything. Oh wait, they got a 2nd round pick for Wright. Yipee. There is talk that Murphy will be bought out even though the team could use a rebounding PF off the bench that can shoot. Lacob is all TALK. This is all the same BS we had under Cohan. Like another poster said, sell the team to Ellison. Why couldn’t he just get his bid in on time?!

  • th3ryza

    (not accounting the murphy trade)


    Let’s face it, Wizards have no playoff hopes soon, McGee’s still a project (but someone we need), and they won’t have anyone big coming off the books soon. Rashard’s a great back up for scoring/defense, and he’ll probably play the 3 more often while we keep udoh. It basically turns into Arenas getting turned into expirings. It might be a tough pull if the wizards really want to keep mcgee. but hey, they’re no playoff team. the ugly part for us is we take on rashard’s contract. but atleast a defensive guard, a good 6th man, and the center we need. at the same time we dump biedrins. we give up lin because they’d want a point guard in return.


    make sure we get some kind of a pick, preferably 2nd rounders. 1st rounder would be ideal, but probably won’t happen. Iggy has a contract that grows to almost 15 million, while monta stays 11 flat, it would help them with cap space down the road. I really would like to push for meeks/lou williams since they have a log jam of guards now. we’d give them charlie bells who’s contract expires in 2012. but that would really be pushing it. overall, 76ers get an elite scorer, thaddeus/turner/nocioni could fill in the SF for them, replacing iggy. give them a push for playoffs this year. we would get the defense we need at the guard spot, especially because we know curry/ellis hasn’t gotten us to .500, so we def know we need change. I wouldn’t mind if this was a straight up monta for iggy trade.

    Also let’s use one of our trade exceptions for a decent back up center. We only have 3.8 overall, expires in the summer, might as well use it, problem is, most decent guys are 4+ million. So We’ll stick with kwame brown until the draft/FA comes up.

    D. Wright/Lewis/(Williams)

    Defense with Udoh, Wright, Lewis, Iggy, Hinrich, Bell. Brown and McGee fills in our Center needs. This is good for the next 2 years or so. and then once Lewis, Hinrich, and Bell expires, we have a whole new ball game for each year. Likely we’ll have to resign McGee and let udoh either extend or pick him up with some of the MLE. We can only go as far as playoffs this season where we’d face either the spurs or lakers, just focus on staying healthy next year and re evaluate for the future.

    picks can fill in for expirings or possible trades down the road.

    Brown (release or re-sign)
    Williams (Re-sign)

    Udoh (Re-sign, possibly MLE or extend contract)
    McGee (Re-sign, give him Hinrich’s money)
    Hinrich (release or re-sign for lower)
    Bell (release or re-sign for minimum)

    Wright (resign for a good contract)
    Lewis (resign for a low contract or release)

    as for the staff and coaches:
    let keith try out the new defensive minded team. if it stays the same, then make moves for a playoff caliber coach. replace riley and rowell after the evaluation of this year. replace our scouts as well.

  • commish

    Rather than speculate on which trades to make or which free agents or players to draft, I think the key for the future of the franchise is to make Golden State a franchise where legit star players want to come. When you see players like Melo demanding to play for New York or Lebron choosing Miami, it is becoming clear players are going to go where they want to play. So Lacob has to get that clear and do what is necessary to make Golden State a place where top level players want to come to play. That means getting rid a culture of coveting only “the bottom line”, selling draft picks, not using trade exemptions, trading really valuable assets (too many to mention) and getting absolutely nothing in return. Until Lacob and company can erase those vividly horrible memories and give the fans and other players in the league–and potential players–that Golden State is a very desireable desination, we have no chance of being a legit power in the West let alone the full NBA. Creating more cap space by trading for Murphy is a good start to having some money for next year’s free agency players or one significant player. Having a coach that seems clearly to be a “players coach” must be an advantage as well, although people can legitimately complain about the team’s overall lack of defensive ability and coaching which values defense. Regardless, bottom line the only way to turn our franchise around is attract one or more top player to come and play here. Once that has been accomplished, others will follow and the rest, as they say, will be history

  • Richard from San Ramon

    Let’s face it, Marcus, Warriors are a fly-weight boxer with fast hands and quick feet. Unfortunately, against the bigger better teams, they are fighting against heavy-weights.

    Solution, get bigger and deeper (YES!…from the Gary Radnich show).

    Seriously, here is what I would do if I’m in control.

    Get Bigger and more skilled at the center spot:

    Udoh, Vlad (expiring), J Lin, 2nd rounder

    By the time Denver is a legit team again, Nene will be past his prime. Denver cuts cost…gets a young PF/C type with big upside plus another young talent in Williams.

    Warriors get beefy legit center….with Utah and Denver blowing things up….Warriors have a solid chance at playoffs.

    Get deeper: In the summer they use mid-level to sign Chauncy Billups as a very very good backup point guard.
    (or Big Baby Davis at which point they would have to use the draft to get deeper at gaurd spot)

    Draft a small forward or big guard.

    Curry, Billups
    Monta, (drafted player), Bell
    Dorrel, R Williams
    Lee, Amundson
    Nene, Biedrins

  • RM

    Over the past 3+ years I have developed a simple and effective shot training device that eliminates flat shots. I believe it would be very useful in improving the free throw effectiveness of Epke Udoh, Andris Biedrins, and Lou Amundson. Given the opportunity, that would be how I would fix one part of the GSWs.

  • Ultimate Warrior

    Warriors need a true point guard. Curry is not there yet, Law is not the answer. Time to admit, athletic two guards are not point guards. Everyone is turning on Andris but the truth is he is active if you drive and dish to him early, ala Baron. Here is my answer, trade Rado for TJ Ford. Don’t buyout Murphy but play him at the 5. We need his size and rebounding. Play him inside not outside. He was good for us when he was attacking the glass. Explore the availability of AI as a scorer off the bench on a one year deal.

    In the off season get a new GM who can get the job done in aquiring talent. Hire former Warrior Kevin Pritchard.

  • Here is what I would do if I was Joe Lacob & Peter Guber & GM Larry Riley.

    I would trade Charlie Bell , Acie Law & Vladimir Radmanovic to Orlando for Jason Richardson. Trade Jeremy Lin , Reggie Williams & Andris Biedrins to Cleveland Cavaliers for – Antawn Jamison & Baron Davis.

    This trade would definatley help out on offense.
    It will also help to improve on the deffensive side of the ball too.

  • haastheman

    First off, you will not win with two 6’3 players in your backcourt. Although Curry and Monta due bare similarities to Thomas and Dumars, but that was 20 years ago.
    We have a new owner, a new coach, and now it’s time for new philosophies. I want the warriors to play defense. I have 2 trades i think will turn this franchise in the right direction.
    TRADE 1.
    Gerald Wallace and Tyrus Thomas for Monta and Charlie Bell. We may be able to get a pick out of them in this deal as well.
    TRADE 2.
    Chris Kaman and Randy Foye for Biedrens, Brandon Wright, and Tyrus Thomas. It would be nice if we could switch Gadz or Radmonavic for Thomas, possible too because of expiring contracts make them more popular.

    These 2 trades make us a playoff team.
    Vlad or Gadz or Thomas

    This team can defend, score on the perimeter, score in the paint, rebound, and has decent depth. Does it have a bonafide superstar? No, however, next year i believe Wallace will be in the last year of his contract which will make him nice trade bait to couple with Udoh or Lee for a bonafide Superstar in the Offseason. There’s also the possibility of picking up draft picks in these trades as well. Monta’s a great scorer, but he’s not gonna take us to the promise land.

  • haastheman

    Oh yeah, I put this trades together on the franchise simulater on NBA2k, they all worked, and the warriors went to the playoffs three straight times.

  • The best things for Joe Lacob and the Warriors to do is be patient. The Warriors today are the equivalent of a struggling startup in bad economic times. This startup has some good human resources (Curry, Ellis, Wright), a product with potential (they’re young), but people aren’t giving away millions of dollars (there are no miracles/Lebron ) to anyone with a .com on their name anymore.
    What can the Warriors do? Like the startup, the Warriors need to stay lean, stay alive, look for opportunities and be ready. The solution isn’t to sign long term contracts for average players in an attempt to eek out 4 more wins (See Bucks after last year’s playoff run), or to spend just to keep appearances that the ownership is committed. The reason why the opportunity will come is because you can always count on other teams to overspend and make silly decisions in desperation. Don’t believe me? What will happen to the Grizzlies as they suffer for overpaying on Mike Conley and Rudy Gay? What will happen to Josh Smith as Joe Johnson’s max contract cripples them? Think about what happens to the Magic (Free Dwight!) if they don’t win a championship with an aging Hedo and the max deal for Gilbert Arenas.
    With bad decisions from the rest of the NBA come opportunity for the Warriors. That’s how startups succeed, and that’s the correct path for the Warriors.
    Why are the Laker’s champions? Not because of Kobe, but because the Grizzlies wanted to rebuild and gave away Pau Gasol. The Celtics traded a draft pick for Ray Allen (Sonics rebuilding) and traded a young asset for Kevin Garnett. If you aren’t lucky enough to get a once-every-decade franchise player through the draft, the only other way to build a champion is through “luck”. If the Warriors stay lean, save their assets (expiring contracts or picks or young talent) to remain financially flexible, they will have created their own luck.

    Those impatient with the Warriors should remember that the Lakers averaged 40 wins in the 3 years before the Gasol trade. The Celtics averaged 34. The Warriors have averaged 34 the last 3 years and are on pace this year to win 37 with young talent, meaning the players can get better. Things aren’t hopeless! Remember when the Lakers considered trading Kobe? Or when Kobe wanted to trade Bynum? Or when the Celtics wanted to trade Pierce? Most people don’t anymore, their fans are happy.

    This doesn’t mean that the Warriors should tank and win 15 games a year. They can continue to improve. Some feel they should breakup the Curry/Ellis combo. I ask why? Just because they’re not a good defensive combination does not mean they cannot win together. Look at the Spurs, has anyone ever accused Tony Parker or Manu of being even an average defensive backcourt? You can’t even claim it’s because Tim Duncan is an elite defender anymore. Instead, they play team defense and integrate the right pieces that make the Spurs a great team. Let’s see how good this team can be together before we decide what they cannot be.
    If that means Coach Smart isn’t the right fit, be patient and find the right coach. Find the coach that knows what their identity is, find the players that fit it, and then force everyone else in the league to fear it. People have said the Suns are proof that non-typical systems don’t work. I disagree. The Suns didn’t win a championship more because they kept selling their draft picks and being cheap (Nate Robinson, Luol Deng, Joe Johnson, Rajon Rondo!) than because poor-defending Steve Nash was running the show.
    The Warriors currently cannot attract free agents because of their reputation as a franchise. There’s nothing they can do to dispel that but continue to build the team and show the stability of a committed winner over time, versus trading and breaking up teams at the first signs of struggle.

    Let’s take a quick look at the Warriors’ current assets before we grumble why they haven’t made a big deal.

    Andris Biedrins is currently untradeable because the reason why fans want to trade him is the reason why no one will want him, he’s damaged goods with a big contract. The only thing we can get back for him is another big money long term contract. I feel it’s better to keep him and keep working with him to see if we can return to old Biedrins versus getting rid of him just because we’re annoyed with him. He’s still only 24, and it’s not like he’s on drugs or a bad teammate.

    David Lee/Monta Ellis. Bigger contracts limit their attractiveness and make it more likely you’re taking equally long term money with no real net positive for the team. Example, Iguodala + Brand for Ellis and Lee/Andris. I’d rather just keep them.

    With Dorell Wright, he’s very tradeable, but it would be very difficult to match the value he provides (starter level production for bench player contract) in a trade. Unless he’s involved in a trade for Josh Smith, there aren’t many trades I’d be open to. He is going to be a tremendous trade asset over the next few years as you look for that big opportunity. I’ll put Stephen Curry in this same category.

    Reggie Williams, Ekpe Udoh, etc. There’s talent there, but still relatively unproven and more valuable with the Warriors. Develop them.

    Here is a 3 year game plan:
    The Warriors need to find other players to complement the backcourt. Easy said right? The Warriors can pass, shoot 3’s and score. They don’t defend or rebound well or have a good post offense. OK, find cheap components to help with some of those. No team has everything, and we shouldn’t expect the Warriors to. Instead, focus on improving the most critical aspects.
    1. How about a excellent post defender and rebounder who has little offense? Tyson Chandler would cost around 10 million dollars. Since Dallas can resign him, and the Warriors won’t have cap space, maybe that’s unreasonable. So, take a chance on Greg Oden. Or look for the next Sam Dalembert (maybe even Dalembert himself), but for the $5M mid-level exception three year deal, a limited player who is limited in what the Warriors don’t actually need. Remember, Ben Wallace fit this mold; he didn’t necessarily get better and expand his game, he got more playing time and the Pistons perfectly accepted his limitations. DeAndre Jordan and Serge Ibaka are too expensive to get, but there are certainly others out there, perhaps even in the NBDL. Cole Aldrich?

    Look for young players who want the opportunity to play major minutes, like Dorell. Get the Warriors to average level on team rebounding with a consistent shot blocking presence, and I think that’s worth at least a few wins per year.
    2. A strong perimeter stopper to lock down opponents. Arron Afflalo. Trevor Ariza (before he got paid). Thabo Sefolosha. Tony Allen. These were all template guys who had limited (or hadn’t fully developed their) games, and thus were valued lower, but would be perfect for the Warriors and available at reasonable deals. Dorell Wright is an easy example of showing that it’s very possible. These are the types of guys you can find in the draft without lottery picks. (See also: Shane Battier, Dahntay Jones, Corey Brewer. Kirilenko doesn’t exactly fit the mold of either 1 or 2, but would be a great pickup as well)

    With a limited, but strong perimeter defender, the W’s can integrate him a couple of ways. One, have him start and lock down the opposing team’s “guy”. Wright (in Manu 6th man mode) and Reggie Williams lead the second unit as playmakers with Udoh/Amundsun/etc. to help out defensively. Or, Wright can start, with the defensive stopper creating separate tandems with Curry and Ellis. Curry and Ellis can lead offensive units (ask Tim Kawakami) on their own, and the stopper is there to mitigate defensive weakness. 25-30 MPG for the stopper in either scenario, like a Thabo or Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. Curry and Ellis will also be able get more rest.

    I would like to find these two key players over two years, one each year. With a team improving its play together (team defense, pick and roll offense), and adding that one role player each year, it’s reasonable that the Warriors can improve by 4 wins each year. After two years, the Warriors will be a mid to upper 40 win team with a chance to secure a final piece.

    Within 3 years, there will definitely be opportunities to get that key final component. Players become free agents, players become disgruntled, teams look to rebuild or get out from financial miscues, etc. These things will happen. 3 years is all you need.

    3. The Bench: Build and develop through the draft (Lin, Udoh). Acquire, even buy draft picks, when feasible. Bench players are role players, so again, find the guys who are hungry and fit the team. Develop these players, and they will become more attractive trade assets. Look again at the Spurs. Does anyone think, wow, George Hill, Dejuan Blair, Gary Neal, these guys are star players? These guys are just too talented, you’d have to get lucky in the draft to find them?
    No, they’re just perfect role players for the Spurs’ TEAM.
    Build the team. Coach them to become better, play together in a team scheme. Find the right role players. When a true difference maker becomes available, take advantage. Over time, allow the Warriors to become a compelling situation to join, then retain the assets and flexibility needed to make that big deal. Capitalize.

  • Felix Guillory

    Start with a new general manager, fire Riley. In the draft look for a center willing to bang inside; if no pure center is available another banging power forward. The other pieces are in place, strengthen the bench a 1, 2 or 3 players,

    Finally, Andris Biedrins is not a 30 minutes a game player 18-25 at best. A banger is more important that a true center in the order of Clifford Ray, If anyone remembers.

  • Paulo

    Trade everyone except for Stephen Curry, Dorrell Wright, and David Lee for picks, good bench players and contracts that expires for 2012 and make a run for the big free agents on 2012.

  • Fil

    First of all you need to trade the huge contracts of Biedrins and Monta.

    Best case will be to trade.

    Monta and a second round pick to milwaukee bucks for Andrew Bogut. Salary’s match! Reason for the second round pick? To seeten the deal because they are the warriors and they have to give more to acquire than most teams. That way the warriors will only see Monta for 2 games a season.

    Second: Trade beidrins and second round pick to Toronto for Barbosa and derozen. Same reason for the second round pick. W’s just have to give more to get.
    Salary’s match.

    Warriors get their big man as well as a promising Shooting athletic Big Guard. Here is your Playoff team for years to come.

    c-Bogut – Almundson
    PF-Lee – Udoh
    SF-Wright – Radmonovich
    SG-Derozen – R Williams
    PG-Curry – Barbosa – Lin –

  • hannibalX

    Ditto –
    sell team to Ellison. Anything else is akin to switching deck chairs on the Titanic!

  • As that 3 p.m. Eastern trade deadline draws closer, it becomes more and more evident that Riley is already thinking the right thing: patience. As has been mentioned numerous times, the Warriors had the worst possible timing for nearly $21 million in expiring contracts. Not only did they finally have an owner willing to use those contracts, that owner was excited to use those contracts to net a difference maker. But with the uncertainty surrounding the soon-to-expire CBA, those expiring contracts have proven useless.
    But that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Granted we’ve seen some superstars dealt already (Anthony and Williams) but the players that the Warriors were aligning themselves with (even the optimistic ones) were hardly franchise type players. Iguodala, Wallace, J-Smoove, these are all nice pieces but none of them could complete the puzzle for this Warriors group.
    The names that were bandied about in the Warriors inner circle (Nene, Kaman, Jordan) were going to cost way too much to consider. As much as Warriors fans covet Nene (and his presence would be absolute upgrade over any of their current post players), would he really be worth giving up Monta Ellis? I, for one, say no, not in the least.
    The only area that Riley could have tried to upgrade with the players available at the deadline was the second unit. There were (and still are) some names available that could have filled a glaring need on this team: Hinrich, Jonny Flynn, Shane Battier, Corey Brewer, Carl Landry. Any of these players could have stepped in tomorrow and seen 20+ effective minutes. To me, Flynn is the most intriguing as the Warriors could have a blossoming PG to back up their already-blossomed PG and, given Minnesota’s propensity for reclamation projects, I don’t think it would have taken more than Brandan Wright (at least, before Anthony Randolph arrived, that is). But now that the Warriors most attractive piece (that they’d be willing to give up) is a New Jersey Net, even moves for bench pieces are going to be tough.
    The players that teams covet (Curry, Williams, Udoh) are not going to bring back the same value in return than they already give the Warriors. Curry is perhaps a year or two from joining the elite group of NBA PGs. Williams production compared to his $1 million salary, combined with the fact that he’s their only perimeter option off of the bench, will not be replaced by any option on the market. Udoh is the team’s interior defense and there aren’t many teams willing to give up strong defenders.
    So, as the question was asked, how do we fix the Warriors? Well for starters, you hold those expiring contracts and look at an underwhelming free agent class in star power, that still boasts a lot of options to upgrade the Warriors bench. I think the biggest need on this roster is a backup PG. Acie Law, Jeremy Lin, Charlie Bell, frankly these are guys that should not be part of an NBA rotation. Lin may one day be worthy of a rotation spot (no higher than your 8th or 9th man) but even that seems like a stretch. With unrestricted free agents like the Mavericks’ JJ Barrea or the Pacers’ TJ Ford, Riley will have some options to upgrade this unit. The Warriors second unit has some talent there, but outside of Reggie, there isn’t anyone capable of creating their own offense. Injecting a play-making floor general into this unit would breathe life into this underrated group.
    The next area to improve on the second unit is grabbing another perimeter option to complement Reggie on the bench. Outside of the minor financial savings, I’m still perplexed by the decision to release Rodney Carney earlier this season. Whatever they expected him to bring to the table, his play had to (greatly) exceed those expectations. And since his release, Reggie is essentially the backup shooting guard and small forward. If the Warriors can bring in a player capable of filling one of those spots, Reggie would benefit from having a definitive role on the bench.
    Here’s where Riley will really have some options. If the Warriors spend another draft in the lottery, his problems could be solved there. If they strike lottery gold, players like North Carolina’s Harrison Barnes or Kentucky’s Terrence Jones would give the club a legitimate play-making SF on their second unit. Both players have ridiculous upside, and could potentially push Dorell to the bench in a season or two. If the team stays in the lottery but does not strike it rich, there should be options around the 12th or 13th spot available that could fill this same need to a lesser extent. UCLA’s Tyler Honeycutt has good size (6-8, 185-pounds) and plays at 100 percent on both ends of the floor. Colorado’s Alec Burks is mainly a scorer, but is capable of creating his own offense to carry that load when Ellis/Curry get their (brief) breathers.
    Let’s say the Warriors actually make a playoff run this season (still well in reach with Rudy Gay on the shelf and Denver/Utah seeming poised for falls from grace), Riley may need to shift his focus to the free agent market to fill his second unit. I think two players are absolutely in the mix for this group for next season: Udoh and Reggie.
    So that leaves a need for a PF/C, PG and SG/SF. Assuming Riley can fill that PG role (either with a free agent like Barrea or Ford, or perhaps in the draft with Kentucky’s Brandon Knight or Connecticut’s Kemba Walker), he’ll find plenty of options available for the other two positions. Jason Richardson, Jamal Crawford and JR Smith are the cream of the crop for the unrestricted free agents, but likely will come with a big price tag. Here’s where Riley’s patience with these expiring contracts could pay off, even if the salary cap falls a bit in the next CBA. If the team doesn’t feel like spending top dollar, players like Chris Douglas-Roberts, Marcus Thornton, Shane Battier or Corey Brewer could all fill a need on the Warriors bench. Douglas-Roberts and Thornton are both instant offense guys, while Battier-Brewer contribute more on the defensive end of the floor.
    One situation worth watching is what exactly the Nuggets do with all of their perimeter free agents. JR Smith is an unrestricted free agent, although the Nuggets are reportedly interested in signing an extension with the volatile, but offensively-potent swingman. But the Nuggets have restricted free agents in Aaron Afflalo (a knock-down shooter and lock-down defender) and newcomer Wilson Chandler (a talented, lenghty swingman capable of 20/8 on any given night). It’s hard to fathom that the Nuggets bring back these players, especially with the way they are reportedly enamored with Danilo Gallinari. Any of these three would instantly upgrade the team’s second unit; that is, of course, if they didn’t beat out one of the incumbent starters.
    As far as post options, Riley again has plenty of players that are undoubtedly on his radar. Zach Randolph is the biggest name, but he’s similar to what they already have in David Lee and likely will command Lee-type dollars. Luckily, there are plenty of second-tier options for the Warriors. Tyson Chandler, Kendrick Perkins, DeAndre Jordan and Samuel Dalembert are all restricted free agents and all potential starters for this club next season. Outside of Perkins, these guys all run the floor well so they would fit an up-tempo offense. Each of these players can score with their back to the basket and can contest and block shots.
    For PFs, players like Carl Landy, Glen Davis and Luc Mbah a Moute could all be that high-energy player that Riley thought he signed this offseason in Amundson. All of these players could probably be had for no more than the MLE and their potential value to this team far outweight that cost.
    Unfortunately, there is no quick fix to this group of Warriors. But there is a silver lining that starts with a promising young core (Ellis/Curry/Wright/Williams/Udoh) who have a chance to grow with a young coach. If Riley can keep this core intact, and add complementary pieces through the draft and free agency, this team is not far away from a playoff seed higher than 8th. They’re probably a draft jackpot away from a Championship, but this team could compete in this declining Conference.

  • Big E

    OK, So if you are saying we want to go into the playoffs this year and make a solid run, it will be hard to pull off but the best way to do so(which is now not going to work since we traded B. Wright already so we would have to throw in someone else) is to do this trade
    Trade for Nene and Afflalo
    Giving Denver B. Wright, J. Lin, Radmonovic, and Bell and probably a 2nd round pick. This will help us get much deeper since it will put Andres on the bench and Afflalo off the bench too for that Defense we badly need especially against a Guard strong Western Conference(even with Williams leaving Utah) We drop some heavy contracts that would have ended at the end of the year and would not have helped us go anywhere and keep most of our talent. ESPN says we would win 12 more games than before the trade, which is definitely significant for those last playoff spots.

    If not that trade maybe we go for what was talked about a long time ago and go for Iguadala

    But I doubt this trade will get us as far as the previous one I suggested for Nene because after all its not scoring we need, its defense, size, and REBOUNDING! Please excuse the frustration. Hopefully Udoh does better than his predecessors and blossoms into a polished big man, which I am starting to think is a sign that we need to hire a coach to teach these guys how to play the position. Not saying Keith Smart needs to go but maybe he can hire someone as an assistant specific for that role.

    I like idea of a trade for a J. Smith form Atlanta(love his game), but I don’t see it happening since it would require giving up some star power on our end like a Curry, because players like Curry just don’t come along with his skill and potential. We were lucky to grab him in the draft.

    I don’t agree with some who say we can never win with Ellis and Curry at the 2 and 1. They are wrong they just need the right supporting cast and lets face it if we traded either of them away no one would come to see the Warriors play at Oracle or anywhere else for that matter. The NBA is about money too.

    Now on a more realistic note, Warriors general manager Larry Riley has made it clear the Warriors are not going to make a bog move, so lets see how far the team gets us this year and possibly make the playoffs(fingers crossed). Because lets face it, if the Warriors don’t make the playoffs that will not help us bring any talent to the Bay Area. Especially with this movement of the players going to big cities and creating superstar teams. But at least we have the Big City going for us as a positive.

    So, lets get a big man from the free agent market in the summer.

    There is Big Baby Davis who is promising and I think would fit into what the Warriors do, but he isnt quite the presence we need. Maybe a Zach Randolf, Yoa(doubtful he recovers) or Greg Oden(who lets face it has huge upside and I wouldn’t call him injury pron just yet because he isn’t re-injuring the same thing every year like Andrew Bynum). Marc Gasol, Joakim Noah and Al Horford who are also restrict free agents could be available for us to pick up just like we did David Lee. I like our options for next year as a contender. Maybe even Shane Battier or David West(depending on CP3 of course and where he goes). These are just the big men off course we need to deepen out bench at all positions especially the 3, Reggie Williams can’t be the go to sub for the 1, 2, and 3 spot. we need a better 6 man.

    Warriors have a good base and are not in bad shape for big things in the future, we just have to be active in bringing talent instead of hoping we lay a golden egg. I don’t even think the lottery can help us out with this one because we don’t have a number 1 pick, at least one early enough to help us…
    This source says “Nets receive the Warriors’ 2011 first-round pick (lottery protected in 2011, top 11 protected in 2012, top 10 protected in 2013, if not conveyed by 2013, Nets will instead receive the Warriors’ 2013 and 2015 second-round picks) (Marcus Williams trade 07-22-08)”
    And we wont even have a top 10 pick, and if we are lucky we get the 12th pick and have a chance to deepen our bench but I doubt Honeycutt is the answer. I personally like Marcus Morris for better depth in size at the 3 and 4 positions.

    As long as we make moves to become a bigger and more physical team we will win some games. We don’t need drastic change or to reface the franchise.

    In conclusion, fight to make the playoffs this year , get a lane filling Center in the free agent market, get deeper and bigger from the draft if possible, I like what D. Wright can do but if he was the 6 man the Warriors would be so much better(meaning we need another guy at the 3, maybe we get Jay Rich back as a free agent, he will be available), and hirer a big man coach!

    I think I have said enough. Marcus I love what you are doing here, if you could give back some feedback even if I don’t win it would be much appreciated.

    God Bless.

  • Moneer

    Marcus it is simple..Andris is not a true center..Lee doesn’t want to be a center…He just shoots the ball; what we need is what we have needed for quite some time..we need a big man..i say trade for bogut or Randolph..whatever happens we need a big stocky true big man..we cant have a Brandon wright or Anthony Randolph or Biedrins.. We need a big guys who understands he is Giant and Massive for a reason

  • LastDragon

    Hire Donnie Walsh to run basketball operations as soon as the Knick release him. He did a fantastic job building the Pacers and he is doing a great job getting the joke of an organization sometimes known as the Knicks on the right path. The Knick don’t appreciate him the Warriors could sure use a proven winner in the front office.

    Second the Warriors must accept they have an institutional blindness for bigs. There are two ways to address this 1). trade all your guards for an impact big or attempt to hire away scouts with a track record of finding bigs. I figure a scout makes $250 – $350k find the best one or two and pay them $1 million/yr if they overpay a scout it cost $700k/yr but draft the wrong big it can cost $2-$3 million/yr (see B. Wright). Part of the reason they had to overpay D. Lee is because they are unable to draft bigs and the reason they overpaid is because the front office can not evaluate bigs I believe The Warriors signed D. Lee thinking he was the missing big with the number he was putting up in NYC. Anyone who has half a brain could see D. Lee would be of limited effectiveness for the Warriors needs at the PF position.

  • BringBackTheChrisAndTimBurger


    Approach: build a team around Curry based upon his projected skill-set and limitations, and make the hard-truth assessment of whether or not we should be rebuilding or just trying to add “one piece”; we need to stop staying mediocre while being neither lottery favorites or playoff favorites. I believe at this point, we need to give up Monta, Lee and Biedrins in order to make the necessary and significant big-man upgrade, or lose them as a way to begin a medium/longer-term rebuilding process to improve our chances of leveraging draft position and cap space.

    If superstars are available, then it’s a no-brainer, but I believe there are acquisitions we can make of slightly limited players that would be effective pieces to compose around Curry. Instead of simply proposing specific trade/signing ideas, I’m going to first describe the type of players to target as a plan, and explain why it’s realistic. And then I’ll provide a few more specific trade/signing target scenarios.

    1) No team wins without at least one good big man (i mean ‘true’ big man, which is why I think Miami may ultimately be doomed if Udonis doesn’t come back). Even the small-ball Suns had Amar’e. David Lee is no Amar’e (he’s worse on defense, which is pretty pitiful to say). Ideally, we’d get a KG, Duncan or Griffin, but realistically, we can’t bank on that. However, I believe we can win with big men with slightly more limited skill sets than those guys. It has been said colloquially and also demonstrated with statistics, that defensive rebounding is a big part of team defense (and in helping initiate fast break offense). David Lee has not solved this problem like Riley was hoping he would. As a fan, you can see that he hardly gets the big rebound when it counts, and statistically speaking, his teams have historically improved their rebounding rate when he’s off the court — not a good sign. If you can’t rebound, you should at least box out or play good defense. Unfortunately, we don’t need to talk about his lack of presence defensively against other big men. Without a defensive big man who can stop getting murdered (defensively) in the low-post, otherwise, we’d get killed in the playoffs, or more generally, in a half-court game pace. In order to maintain our up-tempo identity, we need a big who isn’t a complete liability with the ball (this means either moving the ball with high IQ, jump shot, or low-post game; remember how Nellie hated having any 2 of randolph, wright or biedrins together? same idea). The good news is that I think we can get by without a superstar big man and still fulfil these criteria decently.

    As said before, Lee fails on the first two criteria. Ideally I’d love something like the old Florida front-court with Noah and Horford, a pair that can move the ball, score efficiently, set screens, clean the glass and bang with anybody. Shot blocking is just a plus. Too bad Noah just signed an extension. Potential targets: Horford, Nene, Milsap, M. Gasol. These are players who are available as FAs, or not necessarily viewed as untouchables, yet who fit the above criteria. On offense, they all have surprisingly good basketball IQ, and if you haven’t seen them play, you can check out their AST% relative to other big men. It’s very impressive, like Lee’s. Furthermore, they can all D-up (recall that Milsap shut down Boozer recently, so he’s effective even though undersized). And while neither Nene nor Milsap are upgrades over Lee in the rebounding area, they are significant upgrades defensively. If we’re unable to acquire one of these players through trades or free-agency, acquiring non-top-flight big men as a pair is also realistic to do through the draft: nene, noah, m.gasol, milsap, bynum. We can pair one of these guys with somebody like a Tyrus Thomas, or somebody who is even more one-dimensional and may be available by trade down the road.

    2) In the backcourt, ideally, we’d get lucky again and grab a Monta or Sprewell (yeah, yeah, I know) late in the draft, but I think pairing Curry with a player with a decent big guard can make up for Monta’s departure. In Monta’s absence last year, Curry put up big numbers, which may off-set much of what Monta has done on offense this year, and adding a defensive 2-guard can probably shore up our team’s defensive efficiency enough to offset the loss in the team’s offensive efficiency lost with Monta. So, we should target a 2-guard/wing with a decent mix of basketball IQ, defensive ability, scoring off-the-ball. Fortunately, in the NBA, this spot is the easiest to luck into. Complemetary wing players who fit this criteria seem to pop up all the time in the NBA: from W. Chandler, W. Matthews, L. Fields, A. Afflalo this season, to gems from previous seasons like Manu, Raja Bell, Salmons, Capt’n Jack, Courtney Lee — adequate pieces seem to be available every year either late in the draft, overseas, or the NBDL.

    3) Don’t get “bandage” players to limp into the playoffs — either fully invest in a long/medium-term plan with young players who can tolerate winning and increase our short-term probabilities of a good lottery pick, or put in all the pieces for a winner. If we can’t acquire an impactful piece within 2 years, Lee and/or Ellis may be past their primes or just ready to boil over, while helping us win just enough to cash in on the draft. Not a good plan.

    Potential trade offers + acquisitions to satisfy above goals:

    Scenario 1:
    (A) Trade Monta and Lee to ATL for Horford (assuming he’d sign long-term). [Pachulia, Crwaford, Marvin Williams, Vlad and Lou can make salaries match on ESPN NBA Trade Machines]. Why Hawks might do it: Lee is back in the East where he was a beast, and while they give up some ability down low in Horford, they pair Monta with Joe Johnson to significantly upgrade their backcourt.
    (B) Trade Biedrins to HOU for Courtney Lee (and absorb trash to make salaries work). Maybe Houston will continue to follow their equation of C/PF by committee now that Yao is probably gone.
    (C) Complement Horford by gambling on Ekpe’s development and trying to sign M. Gasol (fat chance), Carl Landry (more likely), or rolling the dice with signing either Oden or Yao.Note that Ekpe has a chance to fill the roll of big man I outlined earlier, especially considering the tremendous basketball IQ he demonstrated at Baylor, so there’s still hope for not completely regretting passing on Monroe.

    Scenario 2:
    (A) Short-term: trade Monta for a bunch of draft picks and terrible players with fat contracts, while letting Lee stay to help Curry’s development. Losing Monta should put us in significantly better draft position for a few years to hope for impact through the draft, or to stockpile young assets, and we won’t need the cap room since we’re not trying to win immediately (remember, we’re not a hot FA destination, especially in the era of super-teams).
    (B) Medium-term: trade Lee (hopefully Curry will have helped maintain Lee’s trade value) and stockpiled young assets acquired in (A) for an impact player to pair with Curry. Hopefully Wright and Ekpe should still be around as complementary pieces, and acquire effective 2-guard role player as described earlier. Hopefully by now, the contracts absorbed in (A) can be shed as expiring or near-expiring deals.
    (C) Ready-to-win: If (B) works, we’ll have two good pieces, Curry and whoever we’ve added. From (B), we’ll also hopefully be in financial position to sign a big free agent, and since we have two good pieces, we’ll be a more attractive destination for a free agent who is motivated to win.

    Q: Why Curry instead of Monta?

    A: If I had to pick one of the two players to keep, it would be Curry, because he’s younger, he fills a more difficult-to-fill need as a PG with tremendous basketball IQ and upside, and I think it’s easier to create a winning formula by adding spare parts to him than it is to Monta. I don’t want to spend too much time justifying my position on this point, but it centers around the fact that he’s better at getting other players involved. Although Monta has improved at moving the ball this year, the offense seems to be more efficient when it’s only Steph vs when it’s only Monta. I know one can pick whatever stats they want to prove a point, but one stat I put particular value in is team offensive and defensive efficiency: if you look at 82games.com, you can see that the team scores more efficiently (more points
    per 100 possessions) with Steph on the floor than with Monta, and while they seem to suffer on the defensive end, the net difference is significantly in steph’s favor. Oh, and just to appease Mr. Kawakami’s favorite stat, Curry’s +/- is higher, but not by a staggering amount to me.

    Q: Why not keep both and just add a big man like Riley has suggested?

    A: Another option is to keep both, but only if you can add an impactful piece upfront. Given that we couldn’t do this through trades (even with expiring contracts), and that we’re not NY, South Beach, or LA (and hence, can’t attract all “supermen” from Orlando) and won’t be a top destination for free agents, and that we clearly don’t have the cache in the front office to swing a lopsided deal like the one for Gasol, I think we need to trade one of our two most valuable pieces, and because of the previous reasoning, that would be Monta instead of Steph. Of course, this decision would be especially painful given his transformation as a leader this year, and his return to efficiency on offense, but like Bill Walsh said, when it’s painful, that’s the best time to trade a player (at least I think he said something similar).

    Q: If we give up Monta, where does our scoring come from?

    A: A lot people think finding a good scorer is cheap: think instant offense like Eddie House, Ben Gordon or our own Reggie Williams. I think if we at least have big men who are not a liability with the ball in their hands gives us some flexibility to the types of complementary players we add: be it ball-dominant scorers, one-dimensional shooters, or defensive players, since they can also facilitate the offense. Having flexibility in constructing a roster this way is key to take advantage of useful players off of the NBA “scrap heap”.

    Q: You didn’t say anything about a GM or Coach:

    A: I’m a bad judge of GMs — they’re only as good or bad as their last move it seems. The only thing I can say with confidence is that Chris Wallace is terrible, and that Isiah drafted much better than he traded for or signed players. If we can get somebody with cache like Jerry West, then maybe, but other than that, it’s not clear if replacing Riley would be a impactful decision. As for a coach, there are good coaches, but rarely can they polish garbage. The closest ones are Larry Brown and Don Nelson. Even Phil Jackson has never proved he can win with garbage. So I think it’s more important to focus on constructing personnel rather than the coach.

  • Anthony B.

    This trade involves getting rid of Amundson, Radmanovic and Charlie Bell which all combined cannot make even %10 of Kevin Durants sweat. Check out the trade machine link I achieved. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hqklko
    The warriors would be able to acquire Marc Gasol the lesser talented but still an equal force Gasol sibling and Andre Iguodala who has not been metentioned in a all star category since 2008. Maybe I can submit my resume to co-owner Joe Lacob and help him save half the money he spends on Larry Riley for some court side seat tickets and a mere fraction of what he pays Larry.

  • SInce we are stuck with the players we got, we need to change our strategy. We currently run the offense through Monta Ellis who is in the top ten in scoring with a shooting percentage of 47%. However, in the offseason we went and spent $80 million on David Lee who shoots a career 54% who basically just sets picks for Monta at the top of the key. We should run the offense through Lee who can command a double team down low. He can score off single coverage or pass to any of the Warriors shooters, or hit Monta as our cutter/slasher player. We can also stick Monta on the week side and let Curry and Lee do their best impersonation of Nash/Stoudemire. So long as we are a jump shooting team, we will never get to the free-throw line. As for defense, if the G.State takes a high % shot, the other team has to pull the ball out of the net and walk it up eliminating the other teams transition game. If the G.State wants to run, they need to trap, get steals and deflections, and force the other team into taking bad shoots without fouling. Go Warriors

  • Nicolai

    Nice ideas, everyone. I’ve always said that GS fans are some of the most intelligent, realistic, and level headed of any out there (despite our constant optimism that the Warriors are on the verge of being good). The proposals here represent our fan base well.

    I still like my ideas in post #28. They still stand up past the deadline. Hope you see it the same way, MTII.

  • Perry

    Hey, “ReasonableAnswer”…….

    I understand your points but Kobe was drafted by Charlotte and traded to L.A. for your close friend and favorite player, Vlade Divac………….

    But you make a decent point, overall…..just don’t get too carried away……you had a nice run going until you messed up with Kobe Bryant.

    You obviously don’t know much about the Lakers, typical of most Bay Area fans.

    But, the underlying and prevalent theme on this thread, echoed by many posters, is simply, …….You have to have talented, winning, ‘difference making’ players to succeed in this league, plain and simple, case closed.

    Golden State simply does not have enough ‘difference making’ talent……

    We’ve struck out on everything…….drafting, free agency, general management,ownership.

    But the bottom line for Joe Lacob is profitability. That’s it…..If he’s profitable, he is successful.

    The Golden State Warriors are just one business among many others for Lacob…..

    Can you imagine what we are talking about when a $450 million investment is just a side business?

    Astronomical amounts of money these owners have…….more than the players and we think players are wealthy……..

    The Maloofs in Sac are an excellent example, these guys haven’t done shit to improve their squad in 5 years, they started Beno Udrih at the ‘1’ for two consecutive seasons for God’s sakes; but as soon as the shit hit the fan in the profitability department, they are ready to ship their product out of town in search of a more lucrative venue and market, although they have been planning to get out of town for years now…..

    It’s all about money with every owner, some owners know more about NBA basketball, surround themselves with the proper decision-making and player personnel and put everything into owning an NBA franchise (e.g. Dr. Jerry Buss; Marc Cuban; the Russian Prokerov) while others are just happy to be profitable.

    Warrior owners are making money, plain and simple, otherwise they would be out of business……

  • judoboy

    Remove Riley and Robert Crowell from the top. They’re the old regime, time to rid of ourselves of them. There’s no way that you can keep both Monta and Stephen, decided which one you want to structure your team around and go with that. Trade one of them along with a draft pick and/or player (hopefully it’s Andris) for a big man or a phsycial player (Iggy). Make a play for Greg Oden even though he’s damaged goods, it’s worth the risk. Have Udoh play the 4 spot, and have David Lee come off the bench along with Reggie Williams, this makes your bench stronger.

  • Herrick

    I think we need to breakup the Curry/Ellis combo and sign A.I. Everyone says we need to bring in a superstar, well there’s one that’s waiting for us in Turkey!

    FYI – He was the 1st pick overall in TNT’s Ultimate Fantasy Draft.

  • Herrick Macasieb

    Bring back Nellie. Trade for Baron Richardson, Sjax, Harrington, Barnes, and Pietrus.


  • BC

    1. Build a time machine

    2. Don’t trade J-Rich for Brandan Wright


  • Jet Set Dave

    This team can be a playoff team with 5 moves, and a contender in six.

    1)Goodbye Larry Riley as the head of Basketball Operations. You want to keep him as an underling fine, but I’ve heard enough statements of his commitment to uptempo small ball, and it doesn’t work. We need a new sheriff who will demand accountability from the players, staff and ownership. I would prefer to move now and have this guy in place for the draft. What’s Pritchard doing? If we have to wait, Colangelo, Popovich (who’s gotta be ready to get off the bench), and Warkentien would also be targets after the draft when they are free in June.

    2) Goodbye Keith Smart. You have 3 great shooters for their positions in Lee, Wright and Curry, and we have no 1/2 court design. He defers to Monta to avoid the hell Nellie got and bought into the concept that he’s our best player and as coach he has to get along with him. Wrong. We need a real 1/2 court game to take advantage of the strengths we have. Clearly the new GM has to make this call. If I’m the GM, I target Spurs lead assistant Budenholzer. The current hybrid more uptempo but still half court effective Spurs is the direction this team needs to take.

    3) Goodbye Monta Ellis. In the real world of the NBA Monta would be the perfect sixth man they way JR Smith has been and they way he used to be. He won’t accept that. Fact is unless you can match him up with a Point 2 or a Point Forward he’s always a negative mismatch in crunch time. He really can’t guard PGs and be expected to have the energy to provide offense. He doesn’t see the play, he doesn’t have the patience and passing to really run an offense. He’s a defensive liability. In short, he’s the tougher guy to hide defensively because he really can’t play PG. Now throw in Poor IQ, not a great handle and dubious practice ethic and you’re left with a great scorer and not much else.

  • Jet Set Dave

    3) continued… We need a large defensive stopper 2 guard, who can also make the better 2’s work on defense. John Salmons, Andre Iggy type.

    4) Goodbye AB. Wow Jello is tougher. We need that sourpuss whiney face off our bench and out of the locker room. We need a big body bad. Willing to do the dirty work, set screens, rebound, lay the lumber when required. Udoh is a start. He doesn’t need to score. He needs to occupy space and create space. AB won’t and can’t do this. There’s a reason guys like Damp and Shaq still have jobs. Admunson is too small. Nene, Marc Gasol…whomever you go for, has to fit this mold. Because of our team, we need to target a guy who can make 60% from the line.

    5) Plan the move to San Francisco in a state of the art arena. Half of the NBA fans don’t even know where the Warriors play. NBA teams stay in SF when they come here. It is a vibrant, cosmopolitan city. Anyone happen to take notice where all the stars have gone. It’s where the money is, where the suites will be sold. It can be “the” other destination on the West Coast. That will never happen in the 50 year old, outdated Coliseum no matter how you renovate it. It’s in a horrible part of town, in Oakland, near nothing.

    6) Get one great player free agent. Just one.

    There you have it. The Warriors are fixed.

  • D. Cash

    Let’s start by bringing back all the talent that the Warriors have traded over the years to other teams first. Then make sure that we terminate any front office personnel that took part in those horrible decisions. Secondly, do not trade another person until we have “New” qualified front office personnel who have some sort of idea of what they are doing. O.k., that was just a thought. Never mind. Scratch that!

    Since the Warriors seem to start all over EVERY year any way…Just blow everything up from the front office to the team. This is the last time I want to hear, “the Warriors have a young nucleus, and just wait until next year!” Let’s just get it over with. I am willing to absorb one more season of pain, and losing. Blow it up, the years of torture must end! I really took a good look at the team while they were playing Minnesota. The Warriors look like a high school team. No beef, no defense, no inside presence, no post game, just name it and the Warriors don’t possess it.

    It’s time to stop pretending like this team has a chance! I come at a quarter of the price of Riley. I don’t need a flip camera to tell you what’s wrong with the Warriors. I can tell you for free! O.k. Marcus, hook me up with a meeting with Lacob. I guarantee you, he wouldn’t be wasting his money putting together a team, or trading away all his valuable assets and in turn receiving nothing! I have been a long suffering fan for years, and I would be able to purge the losing ways the Warriors have been accustomed to. Change the Mentality! You know its going horribly wrong when you can’t even retain your mascot/symbol (Thunder)! Not that we need Thunder but…would the NBA consider taking/striping the logo from any other team? Lol. The Warriors are not even respected by the NBA. The only reason the Warriors still exist is because the Bay Area has a Great fan base. Losing is not acceptable under any circumstance. It is up to the new ownership to change the culture here. Let’s begin the job now. In the words of Batman, and Robin…Ka-Pow,Bam,Boom!!!!!

  • motov8ted

    If you really want to turn this franchise around once and for all, start with the front office! They have made soooo many poor decisions over the years (too many to list here), and have shown a total lack of direction as to what type of team they are trying to build, and have shown such a poor eye for spotting complementary talent to fit into some type of coherent system, that this franchise is a perennial bottom feeder and a laughing stock to the rest of the league. Their record speaks for itself!! Rowell and Riley need to go and the sooner the better. While your at it show Fitz the door as well and bring back Papa who is a much better announcer who won’t be such a shameless company shill.