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	<title>Comments on: Warriors Close to Pulling Trigger on Troy Murphy Deal; No Deal for Nate Robinson</title>
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		<title>By: Gunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all these lateral and cap management moves, Lacob has yet to shown that he is any different from Cohan or Donald Sterling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all these lateral and cap management moves, Lacob has yet to shown that he is any different from Cohan or Donald Sterling.</p>
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		<title>By: danikil49</title>
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		<dc:creator>danikil49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was going to say something but why bother. I hate this trade because unless it is a precursor to something better,it is just Riley spinning his wheels. He always spins his wheels and never moves forward. I&#039;m still not sure about Smart, some of his rotations are suspect. like when we had the height advantage at SD and he goes small...??*&amp;%%$@]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say something but why bother. I hate this trade because unless it is a precursor to something better,it is just Riley spinning his wheels. He always spins his wheels and never moves forward. I&#8217;m still not sure about Smart, some of his rotations are suspect. like when we had the height advantage at SD and he goes small&#8230;??*&amp;%%$@</p>
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		<title>By: dubfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dubfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Bill - so it&#039;s all good then?
Once a fan, always a fan...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill &#8211; so it&#8217;s all good then?<br />
Once a fan, always a fan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[does anyone really think the rest of the league looks at Biedrins at his gigantic salary and thinks, &quot;Oh, wow, wouldn&#039;t he look good in our uniform?&quot;  You know what the Warriors need to hire?  Somebody with a blowtorch to light a fire under Biedrins&#039; ass, and at the same time apply that flame to the wonderfully inconsistent and lackadaisical Radmanovic.  And so we&#039;ll have expiring contracts with which, as always, we will do nothing.  Nobody wants to be here, come here or talk trade with us unless they can rape us as they did when they took J Rich for a number eight wimp with arms long enough to tie his shoes standing up and the heart of a battered puppy dog. Good riddance, now when can we dump Bell and Vlad and some of this other ridiculous Larry Riley luggage such as Amundson who can&#039;t catch a beachball thrown on the beach by a child.  Hustle?  Gadzuric hustled but he couldn&#039;t drop the ball in the ocean if he was standing on the Titanic.  So we dump him, we basically give away Maggette because he makes 10 mil...it&#039;s a business people...brace yourselves to lose your favorite players..Monta, Curry, even Dorell....the Warriors have been doomed for decades and are more of a laughingstock in the league than ever....you want solutions?  Purge the front office entirely.  Start the f over.  God, bring back At Attles, ill as he looks.  Warrior fans (and I am one of the most loyal since 1962!) are just exhausted from watching this shipwreck year after year.  If Biedrins flops one more free throw I&#039;m going to throw radio batteries at him the way the Hawks fan did at Rick Barry in the playoffs way back when.  This guy is an embarrassment.  And one more rant.  The other night against the Celtics Keith Smart had Curry and four deadheads on the floor against four all stars and a fifth Celtic...I&#039;m talking when the deficit was only four points....He was OUTCOACHED!  I begin to not care how personable he is, how good his outof bound plays might be....Get your head in the game and be aware of who is on the floor when.  You have assistants; don&#039;t they ever speak up?  Start Udoh and send a message to Biedrins:  You are nothing more than the next expiring contract and a back up center with NO offensive game.  Sad.  Cut Bell, please.  Lin?  He&#039;s little more than a D leaguer glorified by the Asian community in the bay area.  sad sad sad.....they compete, they have a few guys with talent....their coach burns up Monta with tons of minutes, can&#039;t get Curry to stop throwing telegraphed hook passes....can&#039;t get Biedrins to practice free throws even with Mark Price on the staff...and now when they need to draw up a play they predictable run a lob to the rim to Biedrins and the other team is miles ahead of them in scoping it out...god, I&#039;d make a better coach and work for half...Lacob, as someone already said here, is just Cohan with slightly better PR skills....Murphy?  Yeah, under contract, bought out and yet, and yet---when he was here, when he got minutes, he could defensive rebound.....by the way Radmanovic, it helps to move your feet on defense and stick up your arms to rebound.....god, makes my blood boil, and yet, and yet, tomorrow night I will be watching....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone really think the rest of the league looks at Biedrins at his gigantic salary and thinks, &#8220;Oh, wow, wouldn&#8217;t he look good in our uniform?&#8221;  You know what the Warriors need to hire?  Somebody with a blowtorch to light a fire under Biedrins&#8217; ass, and at the same time apply that flame to the wonderfully inconsistent and lackadaisical Radmanovic.  And so we&#8217;ll have expiring contracts with which, as always, we will do nothing.  Nobody wants to be here, come here or talk trade with us unless they can rape us as they did when they took J Rich for a number eight wimp with arms long enough to tie his shoes standing up and the heart of a battered puppy dog. Good riddance, now when can we dump Bell and Vlad and some of this other ridiculous Larry Riley luggage such as Amundson who can&#8217;t catch a beachball thrown on the beach by a child.  Hustle?  Gadzuric hustled but he couldn&#8217;t drop the ball in the ocean if he was standing on the Titanic.  So we dump him, we basically give away Maggette because he makes 10 mil&#8230;it&#8217;s a business people&#8230;brace yourselves to lose your favorite players..Monta, Curry, even Dorell&#8230;.the Warriors have been doomed for decades and are more of a laughingstock in the league than ever&#8230;.you want solutions?  Purge the front office entirely.  Start the f over.  God, bring back At Attles, ill as he looks.  Warrior fans (and I am one of the most loyal since 1962!) are just exhausted from watching this shipwreck year after year.  If Biedrins flops one more free throw I&#8217;m going to throw radio batteries at him the way the Hawks fan did at Rick Barry in the playoffs way back when.  This guy is an embarrassment.  And one more rant.  The other night against the Celtics Keith Smart had Curry and four deadheads on the floor against four all stars and a fifth Celtic&#8230;I&#8217;m talking when the deficit was only four points&#8230;.He was OUTCOACHED!  I begin to not care how personable he is, how good his outof bound plays might be&#8230;.Get your head in the game and be aware of who is on the floor when.  You have assistants; don&#8217;t they ever speak up?  Start Udoh and send a message to Biedrins:  You are nothing more than the next expiring contract and a back up center with NO offensive game.  Sad.  Cut Bell, please.  Lin?  He&#8217;s little more than a D leaguer glorified by the Asian community in the bay area.  sad sad sad&#8230;..they compete, they have a few guys with talent&#8230;.their coach burns up Monta with tons of minutes, can&#8217;t get Curry to stop throwing telegraphed hook passes&#8230;.can&#8217;t get Biedrins to practice free throws even with Mark Price on the staff&#8230;and now when they need to draw up a play they predictable run a lob to the rim to Biedrins and the other team is miles ahead of them in scoping it out&#8230;god, I&#8217;d make a better coach and work for half&#8230;Lacob, as someone already said here, is just Cohan with slightly better PR skills&#8230;.Murphy?  Yeah, under contract, bought out and yet, and yet&#8212;when he was here, when he got minutes, he could defensive rebound&#8230;..by the way Radmanovic, it helps to move your feet on defense and stick up your arms to rebound&#8230;..god, makes my blood boil, and yet, and yet, tomorrow night I will be watching&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dubfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dubfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Warrior fans need to calm down a little bit and try and have some perspective.  And believe me, I am as frustrated as the next guy with the history of this franchise, dumb moves, bad trades, bad signings, etc., but consider this:  This year, the Warriors have a shot at ending up right around .500, maybe a tad below...let&#039;s say they end up winning 40 games on the button, which would entail a 14-12 record for the balance of the season.  This is not overly optimistic, and reasonably possible, I think.  If they had had a healthy roster all year long, and had not lost Lee, in particular, for 20 games (10 entirely, and 10 as a half a player), it is not unreasonable to think they would have won 3-4 more game...which would put them at right around 43-44 wins for the season, or 15+ games better than last year.  Give this whole team another year together, maybe throw in some decent trade (hopefully involving Andris + ???) or a decent draft pick, and good health next year, they could bump that 43 win team from this year a few more games next year...3-5 more wins, perhaps?  This would put them in line to be pushing 50 wins a year from now.  

Everybody, myself included, wants them to win NOW, but they have made great progress in less than a year.  Can we build a team from a decent core, for once, and not re-do the whole team every couple of years?  Right now, playing more difficult games in the West, they still have a (slim, but possible) shot at the playoffs.  If they were in the East, with their current record, they would be in the playoffs, and they probably would have a better record because they would not be playing quite as tough a schedule.  Panic is not going to help this team.  Time (and hopefully not too long a period of time) will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Warrior fans need to calm down a little bit and try and have some perspective.  And believe me, I am as frustrated as the next guy with the history of this franchise, dumb moves, bad trades, bad signings, etc., but consider this:  This year, the Warriors have a shot at ending up right around .500, maybe a tad below&#8230;let&#8217;s say they end up winning 40 games on the button, which would entail a 14-12 record for the balance of the season.  This is not overly optimistic, and reasonably possible, I think.  If they had had a healthy roster all year long, and had not lost Lee, in particular, for 20 games (10 entirely, and 10 as a half a player), it is not unreasonable to think they would have won 3-4 more game&#8230;which would put them at right around 43-44 wins for the season, or 15+ games better than last year.  Give this whole team another year together, maybe throw in some decent trade (hopefully involving Andris + ???) or a decent draft pick, and good health next year, they could bump that 43 win team from this year a few more games next year&#8230;3-5 more wins, perhaps?  This would put them in line to be pushing 50 wins a year from now.  </p>
<p>Everybody, myself included, wants them to win NOW, but they have made great progress in less than a year.  Can we build a team from a decent core, for once, and not re-do the whole team every couple of years?  Right now, playing more difficult games in the West, they still have a (slim, but possible) shot at the playoffs.  If they were in the East, with their current record, they would be in the playoffs, and they probably would have a better record because they would not be playing quite as tough a schedule.  Panic is not going to help this team.  Time (and hopefully not too long a period of time) will.</p>
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		<title>By: B in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>B in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sorry.. 
non-broken link:

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/robinson_nate00.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry..<br />
non-broken link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/robinson_nate00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/robinson_nate00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: B in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>B in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#21 and #29

Nate Robinson WAS born in Oakland and did attend James Logan High through his 11th grade year.

I ran track against him numerous times all over the Bay Area. He was quite the hurdler.. 

&quot;Transferred to Rainier Beach in Seattle prior to his senior year from Logan High School near Oakland, Calif.&quot;    

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/mbaskbl/mtt/robinson_nate00.html

“I remember one time I was like 15 or 16 and I was in Oakland, California. There was this park where I grew up called Bushrod, it’s in north Oakland, me and my family took a little trip up to another park called Mosswood. It’s like rival parks and my family went up there and we played against another family. I remember we put the money in a hat, everybody put in five dollars. … We played for hat, played for the money...&quot;

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/03/24/inside-the-game-nate-robinson-and-the-art-of-high-energy-basketball/

http://www.whoathletestweet.com/twitter/nate_robinson/talksabout/oakland/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 and #29</p>
<p>Nate Robinson WAS born in Oakland and did attend James Logan High through his 11th grade year.</p>
<p>I ran track against him numerous times all over the Bay Area. He was quite the hurdler.. </p>
<p>&#8220;Transferred to Rainier Beach in Seattle prior to his senior year from Logan High School near Oakland, Calif.&#8221;    </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/mbaskbl/mtt/robinson_nate00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/mbaskbl/mtt/robinson_nate00.html</a></p>
<p>“I remember one time I was like 15 or 16 and I was in Oakland, California. There was this park where I grew up called Bushrod, it’s in north Oakland, me and my family took a little trip up to another park called Mosswood. It’s like rival parks and my family went up there and we played against another family. I remember we put the money in a hat, everybody put in five dollars. … We played for hat, played for the money&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/03/24/inside-the-game-nate-robinson-and-the-art-of-high-energy-basketball/" rel="nofollow">http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/03/24/inside-the-game-nate-robinson-and-the-art-of-high-energy-basketball/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.whoathletestweet.com/twitter/nate_robinson/talksabout/oakland/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whoathletestweet.com/twitter/nate_robinson/talksabout/oakland/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jT the Bigger Figger</title>
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		<dc:creator>jT the Bigger Figger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facts are: 1) Dubs had none, nada, zero, zilch, 1st round draft picks to offer; 2) Deals for Melo, DWill, BD, all required 1st round draft picks to be considered; 3) Nobody was knocking on the door asking about the Dubs expiring contracts...NOBODY; 4) If you don&#039;t plan to keep your expirings around in the future (or plan to play them), then all you can hope for is getting something, anything, in return; 5) Can&#039;t trade something NOBODY wants for something SOME people want...less you&#039;re buddies with DStern.

As TK eluded to in his blog, BW wasn&#039;t what the Dubs were trying to get in the big picture...KG was the target in a 3-team deal with Minn and Char, that would include JRich being traded, and supposedly AThorton being drafted by Char to be sent to Minn.  The deal was botched when BW was picked over Thorton and the Dubs were stuck to trade JRich for BW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts are: 1) Dubs had none, nada, zero, zilch, 1st round draft picks to offer; 2) Deals for Melo, DWill, BD, all required 1st round draft picks to be considered; 3) Nobody was knocking on the door asking about the Dubs expiring contracts&#8230;NOBODY; 4) If you don&#8217;t plan to keep your expirings around in the future (or plan to play them), then all you can hope for is getting something, anything, in return; 5) Can&#8217;t trade something NOBODY wants for something SOME people want&#8230;less you&#8217;re buddies with DStern.</p>
<p>As TK eluded to in his blog, BW wasn&#8217;t what the Dubs were trying to get in the big picture&#8230;KG was the target in a 3-team deal with Minn and Char, that would include JRich being traded, and supposedly AThorton being drafted by Char to be sent to Minn.  The deal was botched when BW was picked over Thorton and the Dubs were stuck to trade JRich for BW.</p>
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		<title>By: Harp's Dubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harp's Dubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atlanta&#039;s &quot;dangling Josh Smith&quot; and Chris Kaman is on the block.  This is our chance to make huge moves:
1) Monta for Josh Smith
2) Dorell Wright and Biedrins for Kaman

Granted, we&#039;d be losing some scoring, but our front line of Smith, Lee and Kaman would be formidable.  Let Reggie Williams start and see what he can do at the 2.  Let&#039;s face it, the dearth of good shooting guards in the league is unlike any other time in history.
This summer, we&#039;ll use our draft pick to get the best SG available if Williams isn&#039;t the answer.

PG - Curry/Law/Lin
SG - Williams/Bell
SF - Smith/Radmanovic
PF - Lee/Amundson
C - Kaman/Udoh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlanta&#8217;s &#8220;dangling Josh Smith&#8221; and Chris Kaman is on the block.  This is our chance to make huge moves:<br />
1) Monta for Josh Smith<br />
2) Dorell Wright and Biedrins for Kaman</p>
<p>Granted, we&#8217;d be losing some scoring, but our front line of Smith, Lee and Kaman would be formidable.  Let Reggie Williams start and see what he can do at the 2.  Let&#8217;s face it, the dearth of good shooting guards in the league is unlike any other time in history.<br />
This summer, we&#8217;ll use our draft pick to get the best SG available if Williams isn&#8217;t the answer.</p>
<p>PG &#8211; Curry/Law/Lin<br />
SG &#8211; Williams/Bell<br />
SF &#8211; Smith/Radmanovic<br />
PF &#8211; Lee/Amundson<br />
C &#8211; Kaman/Udoh</p>
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		<title>By: commish</title>
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		<dc:creator>commish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcus, nothing unusual but I am confused.  By picking up Murphy&#039;s expiring don&#039;t we gain at least some additional cap space for next year?  I thought that was heart of the deal plus moving two players who ride the bench.  Breaks my heart not knowing why BW is such a loser in the eyes of Smart and the franchise.  And I agree with all the other bitter fans who don&#039;t understand why not at least showcase him to perhaps getting a first rounder rather than second.  Scary bad.

After reading Adam&#039;s scathing blog and responses this morning, I am truly depressed.  Just seems pretty much everyone, and I wonder if you fall in this camp Marucs, is so down on Lacob and broken promises.  I wonder how much of this is true versus simply not having the assets or time yet to deliver.  Seems Riley&#039;s conservative nature is winning out over Lacob&#039;s (arguably so far) B.S. Sounded good but is he really a more available and more articulate Cohan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus, nothing unusual but I am confused.  By picking up Murphy&#8217;s expiring don&#8217;t we gain at least some additional cap space for next year?  I thought that was heart of the deal plus moving two players who ride the bench.  Breaks my heart not knowing why BW is such a loser in the eyes of Smart and the franchise.  And I agree with all the other bitter fans who don&#8217;t understand why not at least showcase him to perhaps getting a first rounder rather than second.  Scary bad.</p>
<p>After reading Adam&#8217;s scathing blog and responses this morning, I am truly depressed.  Just seems pretty much everyone, and I wonder if you fall in this camp Marucs, is so down on Lacob and broken promises.  I wonder how much of this is true versus simply not having the assets or time yet to deliver.  Seems Riley&#8217;s conservative nature is winning out over Lacob&#8217;s (arguably so far) B.S. Sounded good but is he really a more available and more articulate Cohan.</p>
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