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	<title>Comments on: 5 Reasons the Warriors Won&#8217;t Amnesty Biedrins</title>
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		<title>By: john p</title>
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		<dc:creator>john p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biedrin&#039;s is one of the worst players in the entire league, if not thee worst player in the entire league

He has completely lost the ability to play the game]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biedrin&#8217;s is one of the worst players in the entire league, if not thee worst player in the entire league</p>
<p>He has completely lost the ability to play the game</p>
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		<title>By: Niners in 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niners in 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 03:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biedrins is a lost cause.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biedrins is a lost cause.</p>
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		<title>By: theCity</title>
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		<dc:creator>theCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amnesty cuts make sense when a player has very little or no trade value, and is in the last year of a contract. 

Assuming the rule allows an Amnesty each year- better to have Biedrins work his tail off and get better- otherwise another Amnesty exception won&#039;t be available for 3 years.(if I understand the rule correctly)

Bell makes the most sense if that cap space is what it takes to get a big man through free agency. Why is it is so hard for this franchise to find BIGs? We&#039;ve only been waiting since Robert Parrish &amp; McHale!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amnesty cuts make sense when a player has very little or no trade value, and is in the last year of a contract. </p>
<p>Assuming the rule allows an Amnesty each year- better to have Biedrins work his tail off and get better- otherwise another Amnesty exception won&#8217;t be available for 3 years.(if I understand the rule correctly)</p>
<p>Bell makes the most sense if that cap space is what it takes to get a big man through free agency. Why is it is so hard for this franchise to find BIGs? We&#8217;ve only been waiting since Robert Parrish &amp; McHale!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Yosembok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yosembok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 00:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With Jerry West on board as a consultant, give Biedrins another year and see if West can give some help. AB needs some coaching. He has decent foot coordination (brick hands) and needs to spend sometime playing summer ball to develop one-on-one moves and confidence in offense. He ain&#039;t gonna get that development in Latvia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Jerry West on board as a consultant, give Biedrins another year and see if West can give some help. AB needs some coaching. He has decent foot coordination (brick hands) and needs to spend sometime playing summer ball to develop one-on-one moves and confidence in offense. He ain&#8217;t gonna get that development in Latvia.</p>
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		<title>By: Impervious Short</title>
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		<dc:creator>Impervious Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why amnesty him when there is always a market for centers? It doesn&#039;t make sense to give away an asset albeit a diminished one. Didn&#039;t Houston offer Jordan Hill and Thabeet for him last year? That would have saved something like 18 million. My guess is the Warrior&#039;s West/Lacob doctrine is: We don&#039;t make the team worse before we make it better. They are not going to move Biedrins unless they have a better option at center in the fold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why amnesty him when there is always a market for centers? It doesn&#8217;t make sense to give away an asset albeit a diminished one. Didn&#8217;t Houston offer Jordan Hill and Thabeet for him last year? That would have saved something like 18 million. My guess is the Warrior&#8217;s West/Lacob doctrine is: We don&#8217;t make the team worse before we make it better. They are not going to move Biedrins unless they have a better option at center in the fold.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those who had the opportunity to watch Andris over the last several years should be thanking and praising him. Here are several reasons why Andris will have an exceptional year. Andris Biedrins is an exceptional rebounder and was able to keep the Warriors afloat for years. The Golden State Warriors have been a terrible rebounding team and Beidrins was the only formitable rebounder during his stay. 

He has had a very poor two years but one can make an argument that last year with the offensive adjustments running the ball through David Lee left little in available point opportunities for AB. He still managed to rebound at a respectible 8 a game, while only averaging 23 mins a game, over only 59 games last year. (Note: Andris only played 33 games the previous 2009-2010 year and was injured so no judments can made)

Andris Saw his best years with an exceptional play making guard on the team (as most centers do now a days). The last two years with Monta dominating the ball allowed very little receiveing opportunities playing off the ball. 

The Warriors would greatly regret getting rid of Andris for equal or less in return.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who had the opportunity to watch Andris over the last several years should be thanking and praising him. Here are several reasons why Andris will have an exceptional year. Andris Biedrins is an exceptional rebounder and was able to keep the Warriors afloat for years. The Golden State Warriors have been a terrible rebounding team and Beidrins was the only formitable rebounder during his stay. </p>
<p>He has had a very poor two years but one can make an argument that last year with the offensive adjustments running the ball through David Lee left little in available point opportunities for AB. He still managed to rebound at a respectible 8 a game, while only averaging 23 mins a game, over only 59 games last year. (Note: Andris only played 33 games the previous 2009-2010 year and was injured so no judments can made)</p>
<p>Andris Saw his best years with an exceptional play making guard on the team (as most centers do now a days). The last two years with Monta dominating the ball allowed very little receiveing opportunities playing off the ball. </p>
<p>The Warriors would greatly regret getting rid of Andris for equal or less in return.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaysohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaysohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a one time amnesty that can be used at anytime during the CBA contract but they are still working out the details on how it will work. Right now it makes no sense to use the amnesty until you have investigated trade options or whether Beidrins play can improve under the new coaching staff. If Beans can get back to approaching 10 rebounds, 8 - 10 points and a couple of blocks a game then 9 million a year doesn&#039;t look too bad.  If he doesn&#039;t produce then you can use the amnesty at any time if they are unable to trade him for value.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a one time amnesty that can be used at anytime during the CBA contract but they are still working out the details on how it will work. Right now it makes no sense to use the amnesty until you have investigated trade options or whether Beidrins play can improve under the new coaching staff. If Beans can get back to approaching 10 rebounds, 8 &#8211; 10 points and a couple of blocks a game then 9 million a year doesn&#8217;t look too bad.  If he doesn&#8217;t produce then you can use the amnesty at any time if they are unable to trade him for value.</p>
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		<title>By: Kommon Senze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kommon Senze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The biggest reason they won&#039;t use it on Andris (this year) is because they could use it next year on Andris. According to Larry Coon, the Amnesty exemption is not a &quot;use it or lose it&quot; exemption, like it was in 2005. It can be pocketed and used in any year during the duration of the new CBA. This means that Biedrins could come back this year, stink it up, and still be considered an amnesty option next year, when he has 1 less year to eat and 1 more year of potential proof that he won&#039;t return to form. 

Of course, because of this, David Lee would also be an option several years down the line, when his salary starts to jump higher and his potential impact may start to wane. Will the Warriors have that type of patience? I don&#039;t know.

The very tempting thing to do would be to amnesty Bell now so they have the room to make an offer to Nene, but if Nene doesn&#039;t take that offer, they would have simply wasted that amnesty on a salary that they were going to eat anyway (i.e., does anybody expect Bell to contribute much, if at all, even if he is on the roster).

I hope they pocket the amnesty, assuming Coon is correct in his analysis, and then wait to use it on a player when it might actually benefit the team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest reason they won&#8217;t use it on Andris (this year) is because they could use it next year on Andris. According to Larry Coon, the Amnesty exemption is not a &#8220;use it or lose it&#8221; exemption, like it was in 2005. It can be pocketed and used in any year during the duration of the new CBA. This means that Biedrins could come back this year, stink it up, and still be considered an amnesty option next year, when he has 1 less year to eat and 1 more year of potential proof that he won&#8217;t return to form. </p>
<p>Of course, because of this, David Lee would also be an option several years down the line, when his salary starts to jump higher and his potential impact may start to wane. Will the Warriors have that type of patience? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>The very tempting thing to do would be to amnesty Bell now so they have the room to make an offer to Nene, but if Nene doesn&#8217;t take that offer, they would have simply wasted that amnesty on a salary that they were going to eat anyway (i.e., does anybody expect Bell to contribute much, if at all, even if he is on the roster).</p>
<p>I hope they pocket the amnesty, assuming Coon is correct in his analysis, and then wait to use it on a player when it might actually benefit the team.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The amnesty is an auction however so if there are a bunch of teams interested the price could go way up. Of course if there is interest a trade is also a possible outcome. I am surprised that you don&#039;t think Lacob wants to spend. My sense he does. Just intelligently. but if he had a crack at a Dwight Howard, for example, I don&#039;t think he would hesitate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amnesty is an auction however so if there are a bunch of teams interested the price could go way up. Of course if there is interest a trade is also a possible outcome. I am surprised that you don&#8217;t think Lacob wants to spend. My sense he does. Just intelligently. but if he had a crack at a Dwight Howard, for example, I don&#8217;t think he would hesitate.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EvanZ, re No. 10 the point isn&#039;t whether he&#039;s worth $4M on an open market, it&#039;s that the few teams bidding on him wouldn&#039;t have to go near that number because the Warriors would be on the hook for his salary.  Since only teams under the cap can bid on him (at least until they all pass) and since he&#039;s not a guy who is going to be a game changer it&#039;s not going to be similar to true free agency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EvanZ, re No. 10 the point isn&#8217;t whether he&#8217;s worth $4M on an open market, it&#8217;s that the few teams bidding on him wouldn&#8217;t have to go near that number because the Warriors would be on the hook for his salary.  Since only teams under the cap can bid on him (at least until they all pass) and since he&#8217;s not a guy who is going to be a game changer it&#8217;s not going to be similar to true free agency.</p>
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