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Warriors Error Isn’t In Leaving, But Lacking Compassion for Die-Hard Oakland Fans

My wife is always on me about this. When I know I’m right, I’m so concerned about expressing my rightness that I forget a critical element — how I say it.

After a day of digesting the Warriors’ pending move to San Francisco, after listening to Oaklanders and East Bay die-hards lament their team’s departure, after witnessing the Warriors and supporters of the new arena justify the decision to leave while dismissing the ensuing outrage, I couldn’t help but think of my wife’s reminder.

It’s how you said it.

That’s where the Warriors went wrong. But before I offer my explanation of the negative reaction to the Warriors’ announcement Tuesday, I need to get a few qualifiers out of the way:

1. Joe Lacob and Peter Guber committed $450 million to buy the Warriors’ franchise. They’re committing to at least $500 million for a new arena. They can build wherever they want. It’s a right for which they’ve paid.

2. It’s just basketball. I know, jobs are being lost and a blow to the economy is expected. But I can’t be mad that working class people in San Francisco will get jobs. And I believe, even after the Warriors leave, Oakland will still exist and maybe thrive, albeit in a new way. Basketball teams are made by cities, not the other way around. The NBA may have had a special place in Oakland, but it doesn’t define Oakland, and there is plenty of more important work to be done than keeping a sports team.

3. It’s a smart move. It was an inevitable move. And seeing the vision for the arena, perched on waterfront with a backdrop that would make Ansel Adams switch to color, even Oaklanders understand the move.

With that said, this thing could have been executed much better. The proper respect wasn’t paid to a segment of the fan base that kept the franchise relevant and viable despite itself.

The Warriors displayed Mitt Romney-esque sensitivity as they choreographed their departure, and it began the day Lacob and Guber bought the franchise. Blinded by millionaire dreams, it seems they didn’t spend much time pondering the proper tip o’ the cap to the thousandaires they’re hurting.

It should come as no surprise that a big business doesn’t get it. And the Warriors clearly didn’t. That was painfully obvious to lovers of Oakland as they used business logic to explain an emotional matter.

To the die-hards who fill out Club 200, who are most responsible for the Warriors’ impressive attendance, it’s patronizing to hear you suggest it’s not that much further. To the bus driver who spends a day’s salary taking his two kids to the game. it’s insulting when your rebuttal is that 50 percent of your season-ticket holders are from San Francisco.

I’m not saying they should stay. My contention is not that they sacrifice their vision and plans for the sake of others’ nostalgia. However, there was a way to say goodbye, and it isn’t “We had a great time with you, but this new girl who wants me is smoking hot.”

If I may, I’ll explain what I mean using this word I examined during Bible study: meekness. Simply, without preaching and getting all into Greek definitions, meekness is strength brought under control for the benefit of others. It’s being in the right but making sure not to use it to make others feel bad. It’s having power, but being concerned enough about those beneath you to alter your behavior for their sake. It’s being cognizant of how your superiority, your upper hand, your favor impacts those not in such a position.

The Warriors could’ve used a little meekness.

I believe they knew when they bought the team San Francisco was the destination. At the very least, they knew that was the most likely scenario. Understanding that, knowing the Warriors’ days on this side of the water were numbered, why not have your ritzy press conferences in the East Bay as a way of thanking those communities?

Why not just lay it all out on the table from the beginning, when they bought this team, instead of the “we’re looking into all options” baloney. Say you just spent $450 million and you need this franchise to be worth $800 million some day, and doing that means moving across the water and pricing out many hard-core fans. Say, if it was true, Oakland has a shot of keeping the Warriors, but it’s going to take a lightweight miracle.

Oakland can handle the truth and would’ve respected real talk. This city has digested its fair share of tragedy and heartache. This city is used to losing out to the sparkling metropolis across the pond. It’s how Oakland gets its character, its resolve, its loyalty. The Warriors could’ve been straight up from the beginning and likely would’ve gotten a collective dap from the city.

But the boos, the feeling disrespected, is a product of the Warriors’ acting. Acting as if Oakland had a shot of keeping the team. Acting as if the history and memories meant as much to the new owners as they do to the fans who’ve proudly endured ridicule for wearing your colors. Acting as if calling them the best fans in the world means you understand them, you’re with them.

A little meekness, and this all would’ve played out differently. Would there have been angry fans anyway? Of course. It’s an emotional, heart-rending experience to have your favorite team bounce. Just ask Seattle natives like Jamal Crawford who are still smarting about their Sonics’ discontinuance. But some of the blow could have been mitigated with more compassion.

Some of the disdain is because Golden State’s methods thumped Oakland’s funny bone. This city is hypersensitive about being deemed inferior, especially to San Francisco, and the Warriors all but shouted that from the rooftops on Tuesday.

No doubt, a new arena in Oakland would make for an awesome setting. It wouldn’t be Staples, instead more like what Oklahoma City, Utah, Indiana and San Antonio boast. Still, it would’ve rivaled any fan base in the country with its fancy new digs but grassroots, small-market passion.

Of course, that takes a certain kind of ownership, one passionate about the area and comfortable with sufficiency and sustainability. But people know Lacob and Guber are not East Bay guys. They knew the lure of the grandiose across the water would overpower the niche the Warriors’ had in Oakland. And that is OK.

But in their pursuit of the extravagant, they missed an opportunity to appreciate the simple and pure, to give much-earned props.

An example came at the announcement. Mayor Ed Lee, Joe Lacob, Peter Guber – they all failed to pay respects to Al Attles and Nate Thurmond. You don’t get more Oakland than those guys. It took David Stern and Jerry West to give proper due. (Wouldn’t have hurt to have a few longtime season-ticket holders from Oakland there, pay homage to the jilted segment of the fan base through them.)

I don’t even live an Oakland anymore. But I worship at the Church of Christ on 34th and San Pablo Avenue, where people have been known to ask me about Stephen Curry’s ankle in between songs. I can’t walk into DreamCutz barbershop on Dutton Avenue and not hear a few Warriors fans defending their loyalty to the inevitable Lakers fan in the debate. I’ve seen the abounding joy on the faces of East Oakland Youth Development Center students who, despite it being a school night, got to take a field trip to a Warriors game.

Again, there is nothing wrong with Lacob and Guber moving the franchise to San Francisco. Even if it means jobs lost, a treasured staple in the city hijacked, another defeat to the favored sibling.  They have every right to place their potentially breath-taking arena in whichever greener pastures they desire.

The problem was in the how.

 

Marcus Thompson

  • Rutherford Van Gleason

    Fire Bob Fitzgerald is right in this: Comparing the move from Oakland to SF to what happened to Seattle and the Sonics is just out of control. You can’t be serious.

    We’re talking about four more stops on BART for god’s sake.

  • STH from the Town

    Awesome piece MTIII. Thanks. Some of the comments are hilarious. The people who love the move now think the other group has no right to have hurt feelings about it. You have the team now, go away and let us vent.
    If I’m not mistaken you changed the piece a bit. As a lifelong Oaklander, I did as you said ” get part of my grind from being from San Francisco’s lil step brother”. And while I’m not rich by any means I’ll be keeping my seats in the new place. While there is more money in San Francisco theres also an even bigger population of lower and middle class people. Even though they will be a lot closer to the venue, at some point they will miss the “good ole days”. The days that THEY could actually afford to go to the game.

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  • The Real Sleepy

    For what it’s worth, the Real Sleepy (the one who writes for Golden State of Mind) thinks this is a fantastic article.

    As for the “Sleepy Freud” troll last seen cussing himself out in this thread … LOL. I guess I should be flattered?

  • Grey Warden

    Lacob reminds me of a certain player that used to play in Cleveland, who left to play for Miami. It’s not about leaving that bothers fans, it’s in how they go about it that pisses people off. Both guys love the spotlight, and can’t seem to get enough of it.

    Lack of meekness:

    Former Cavs player:
    - “The Decision”
    - Telling fans after failing to win a championship that they have to go back to their miserable lives
    - Other stupid comments made throughout the years

    Joe Lacob:
    - Saying that anyone other than a STH is not a real fan
    - Guaranteeing playoffs
    - Hogging the spotlight on Chris Mullin night
    - Indirectly telling Oakland that he doesn’t give a crap about them

  • Dom

    Oh now I get it, “It’s how they said it”. Please excuse me as a wipe away a tear drop. Give me a break, talk about a fictional controversy. If Lacob expressed his devoted love for the city of Oakland on the night Mullin’s jersy was retired, would he have not been booed? lol

    As someone who grew up on the Peninsula driving to sporting events, excuse me for not being sympathetic. I must have missed the out pour of media attention when the Giants and 49ers announced their intentions to move out from under Candlestick. I’m sure some will argue that those teams never resided on the Peninsula, and therefore this is somehow different. The fact is financially, Bay Area teams count on fans from ALL corners of the region, without everyone’s contribution these teams/organizations wouldn’t exist!

    So to those “warrior fans” who are broken up bc the ownership group didn’t coddle you, and if you’re angry about the additional 15 mile drive… Maybe you should become Kings fans, I heard they’re looking for a new place to call home.

  • PJ

    Excellent as always by MT. After 40+ years in Oakland the team is innately tied to the city. This is a painful loss. Why not a downtown stadium in Oakland??

    If Kawakami is going to bring up his conspiracy theories it should be noted that he reported the Warriors were worth no more than $315 million when the team went up for sale. He also reported Ellison had the first shot to buy the team and refused to pay more than 315 million. When the bidding started Kawakami then reported that there were multiple (5+) parties willing to pay 400+ million.

    Taking all of his inconsistent speculation into account it’s hard to buy into the Kawakami conspiracy theories:

    (1) the team has to move to SF because of the sale price? TV is by far the biggest revenue stream. Tickets/ luxury suites/ real estate developments play a small part. For evidence see LA Dodger’s sale price — no coincidence the team is in the 2nd largest TV market in the nation and the stadium is nothing special in terms of location or architecture. The Bay Area is the 6th largest sports market ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_and_Canadian_cities_by_number_of_major_professional_sports_franchises). The sale price is largely based on that and a stadium in Oakland is viable.

    (2) Ellison got cheated in the negotiations? You already reported that he offered $315 million in a non-competitive bid. Sounds like he did not know what he was doing. Also sounds like he did not have the highest bid from all other accounts.

    As usual Kawakami is light on evidence, heavy on speculation, and contradicts his earlier reporting without any explanation.

  • Mogli

    Al Attles played for the Warriors from 1960-1971. Guess where the team was during that time? Philadelphia (1960-1962) and San Francisco (1962-1971). So the inclusion of Al Attles in the argument only helps to prove it’s truly a Bay Area team and not an Oakland team.

    Also, everyone is getting upset over 15 miles! Calm down. Just be happy that you now have an owner who is trying to make decisions that will improve the prosperity of your team. Or would you rather still have Chris Cohan?

  • Martina

    So you have the same problem with the Warriors 30 minute move to San Francisco that many people had with Lebron James’ “The Decision” move from Claeveland to Miami? It’s all about style points. Fair enough.

    Also, to compare this move with the Seattle franchise move to Oklahoma City seems really off to me. Moving the team 2,000 miles is somewhat different than moving the team 15 miles. An analogous move would have been a team leaving Tacoma to a new arena in Seattle.

  • RNP

    If you are a fan of the team, none of this matters. Period.

  • Smitty

    A beautiful piece of writing, and you’re spot-on with the idea of meekness.

  • lobo

    marcus—–any other team ever leave oakland? duh!

    ya’think if you had some scratch and bought the
    team you wouldn’t consider moving if you got the
    opportunity??

    ya’think more jobs are going to be created in the long
    run by moving than those lost??

    ya’ think they are the last team to pull out?

  • dubs wise

    Much thanks Marcus. Appreciate the thoughtful piece.

    I do think it goes deeper than just a lack of respect though. That lack or respect for the history and for the future of the communities that have been the lifeline for this team points to very real & concrete issues of class. An issue we are always so damn hesitant to talk about in this country.

    You imply some of these issues in you article, and I thank you for that.

  • philb

    When the Haas family owned the A’s they remodeled the teams away jerseys to say “Oakland”. They got it. When the Warriors were hosted by the city of Oakland they couldn’t bring themselves to rename the team “Oakland Warriors”. That’s all you need to know about how they truly felt about their host city.

  • John Starks

    The Oakland/East Bay fans poured a lot of money down that hole, took all of reputation hits and hung in there…for three embarassing, mostly horrendously awful decades. And even though they don’t think so, the SF people should be outraged that the 1% can do something like this. It’s not right and they know it. There are millions of fans across that Bay. It’s just unbelievable how rich guys can do this to people in the name of progress.

    Lacob and Crew hijacked the Warriors and (likely) drove a permanent wedge between Oakland and SF – probably to the delight of SF.

    I’m tired of sucking up to SF. I make a decent living working in SF but I’m now looking for a way to work in Oakland. It’s time to contribute directly to our civic base. We Oaklanders put our money where are mouths are…as meager as that money is to Joe Lacob.

  • PointBreak

    This is a great piece of writing. Funny how most that are commenting forget that you started by saying you understand why the move is for the best. Meekness.

    I’m from LA and grew up with the Lakers in late 70s and 80s. I moved to Fremont in 1990 for work with no intentions of changing teams. However I remember going to my first game at the Coliseum and seeing real basketball fans. Loud, loyal, and fun, not like at the Forum. I remember ‘Don’t Stop the Noise’, which never would have happened in LA. I will go to games in SF, as I’m sure most East Bay fans will. I imagine it will be a lot like those games I recall at the Forum. There will not be a ‘We Believe’ movement in SF.

  • ArmChair GM

    Like I said in mt post #44-

    San Francisco has done absolutely NOTHING to innately or inherently DESERVE or have a RIGHT TO the Warriors. San Francisco is NOT the real HOME of the Warriors.

    Just like a child that has been given up for adoption, if we are talking about birthright, Philadelphia has that. If we are talking about who has fed, clothed, nurtured, raised, supported and been the life blood of the Warriors of the team, it is OAKLAND.

    It is nothing more than a Class Superiority Complex, and Arrogance that San Francisco has ALWAYS had towards Oakland, that makes them feel that they are somehow ENTITLED to the Warriors simply by the merit of their mere existence!

    The attitude that even tho they have absolutely JACK SQUAT for the team for over 50 years, that somehow by means of some Sports Manifest Destiny they are just innately more worthy of hosting the team than Oakland!

    That attitude by San Francisco in almost everything when it comes to the relationship between SF and Oakland, is what makes me sick, and all real Oaklanders and East Bay fans could see right through that crappy, presumptuous, disingenuous, self serving, sham of a Press Conference on Tuesday!

  • ArmChair GM

    Oakland’s biggest mistake was allowing The Warriors to come and set up shop here for 41 years and get away with not claiming us as its Host City.

    Before Oakland spent $100,000,000.00 dollars on the Warriors in 1997 they should have forced the Warriors to recognize the city of Oakland and bear the name of the City that was putting that much of a financial investment into the team.

    We let the Warriors get away with this crap for 41 years and it finally came and bit us in the a**!

  • John Starks

    @ArmChair “Just like a child that has been given up for adoption, if we are talking about birthright, Philadelphia has that. If we are talking about who has fed, clothed, nurtured, raised, supported and been the life blood of the Warriors of the team, it is OAKLAND”

    A+++++++++++++++++++++

  • Manus

    Lest we forget that game when Lacob was booed excessively…

    Probably aided & abetted his decision.

  • ArmChair GM

    Thanks John Starks-

    I just speak the truth.

  • John Starks

    @Manus – maybe. I had considered that. But it’s poor logic to assume that ONLY Oakland people were booing, or people who booed were low-class poverty cases.

    But now that SF has the publicity bounce from the announcement, they will continue to ceremoniously kiss the Warrior’s ass simply to try to prove that booing only happens in Oakland. Spin, spin, spin buddy you better believe it.

    Lesson: billionaires don’t like getting booed – even when and if they deserve it. That’s why people kiss their asses. Otherwise, they destroy your city.

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  • John Starks

    In a way, I’m glad this happened. It has royally galvanized the East Bay.

    Love the pride, y’all.

  • Lori

    well said thank you Marcus

  • Doug

    Meh. Oakland residents will have to travel a bit to work their jobs with the Warriors or to attend the games. The bottom line is that very few people will be significantly impacted negatively and the fan experience will be immensely improved.

  • ArmChair GM

    @John Starks-

    Loyalty before Royalty. Sometimes it takes a big loss to get people to come together the way they should have been all along!

  • Martina

    @John Starks
    “In a way, I’m glad this happened. It has royally galvanized the East Bay.”

    Galvanized the East Bay to what end? What’s next?
    (1) Sue the Warriors to keep them here?
    (2) Go after the Sacramento Kings?
    (3) Go after the New Orleans Hornets?

  • ArmChair GM

    @Martina

    Numbers 2 and 3

    Lacob will be in court for the next five years at least after the environmental groups in SF get through with him and that Pier development business.

    Oakland will press forward with the Coliseum City project leaving the door open for the Warriors to return and save face after the Waterfront deal gets dragged out for a decade.

    If the Warriors decide to choose another SF sight, further proving how disingenuous they were all along, Oakland will vigorously pursue the Hornets or the Kings, who are BOTH looking for new stadiums.

    Trust me, this isn’t even close to being a done deal yet.

  • John Starks

    @Martina – Galvanize to reject that snarky, snotty SF attitude. They pretend they’re so educated and classy and grass-roots but they look down on Oakland like with utter contempt. We’ve had it with the SF superiority/Oakland inferiority bullshit. Well, maybe I’ll speak for myself but I may have some allies out there.

    Fine. SF is great – it’s a beautiful city. It’s not Oakland that has hated on SF, it’s SF that has always hated on Oakland. I can go to SF (I work there, sometimes hang out), but most SF people wouldn’t be caught dead hanging out in Oakland. And they don’t even know why because 75% of them haven’t even given it a chance – they won’t even cross the bridge. And if they did, it was for the Warriors and only long enough to not shit themselves in the parking lot after the game. (Which is the main argument I have for keeping the Warriors in Oakland. It’s the one thing that got SF people to go there.)

    One of my coworkers said, “I was going to fly out of Oakland but there’s like a massacre every day there. I don’t want to die.” Go read some of the dumb stuff people have been posting here. Yes, people really are that ignorant about Oakland. And you’re rolling your eyes right now.

    At this point, if Oakland loses all three teams, I guess that’s how it has to be. Oakland and its residents do not and have not deserved the crap they get. I’m all in. I’m going to stand up for the cool middle-class kid who always gets dissed by the hot jock douchebag with rich parents.

  • robert rowell

    oh dear god. the W’s are the BAY AREA’s team. not oakland’s. you really need to get over it. first and foremost, SF is light years ahead of the town. no disrespect, but oakland is little brother to the city. people come from all over the world to visit, work, innovate, create — in SF. again, i have love for the whole bay area, but please, stop acting like a child when the obvious spot — for it’s cultural, economical, artistic, historic legacy — is where the people want to be.

    second– get off the “small market” crap. it’s just pure garbage. the bay area is the 5th largest media market in the country. fact. that’s not small market by a long shot.

    this is the bay area’s team. i can’t reiterate that enough. as a longtime resident of SF, i’ve gone to the Bore-icle (CULB 200!!!) hundreds of times. now you all can come over here, stay for dinner, maybe hit a few bars, whatever floats your boat. the complete experience will be better than what we as fans have now.

    the W’s have just as many diehard fans here in the city as anywhere else. take a walk around any neighborhood and you’ll see folks sporting W’s colors. we all love the team, we’ll all continue to love them. stop the SF bashing because that’s not what the bay area is about.

  • Albert

    Well-said. A little love for this city that gets so little would have gone a long way.

  • ArmChair GM

    San Francisco is so arrogant, they pretend that the Tenderloin, Hunters Point, Sunnydale, Lakeview, Alemany, Army St, Potrero Hill, and Western Addition, which are all San Francisco Public housing projects by the way, do not exist.

    They act like the chronic homeless issue doesn’t exist.
    They act like the hate crimes and random acts of violence don’t exist.

    But any knowledgeable Bay Area resident knows that San Francisco has its fair share of urban blight. San Francisco has its fair share of societal ills.

    But the media so conveniently spins and selects what information to share with the general public, to create the impression that the entire city is Coastline and Cable Cars…

    You guys may be fooled but not me!

    Why has poor little ghetto Oakland been the ONLY team in California to successfully support a pro Football, Basketball, and Baseball team for DECADES, and provide a Champion in each!

    In fact do the combined individual championship count and you will see that between the Raiders/A’s/Warriors Oakland leads San Francisco 8-6

    Get on OUR level San Fran, not the other way around!

  • ArmChair GM

    Robert Rowell-

    Oakland 8 combined Sports Championships
    San Fran 6 combined Sports Championships

    When it comes to Professional sports….who is the Little Brother again???

    GTFOH!!!

  • ArmChair GM

    robert rowell Says:
    May 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    oh dear god. the W’s are the BAY AREA’s team. not oakland’s. you really need to get over it.
    _______________________________________________________

    So if the Warriors are the BAY AREA’s team stop making the erroneous assertion that the Warriors need to come HOME to San Francisco!

    Any other time, you guys are quick to blurt out, erroneously might I add, that the Dubs BELONG in SF and need to come “Home” to SF…crap, crap, crap.

    But when we prove historically that Oakland has been more of a home to the Warriors than Philadelphia and San Francisco combined, then all of a sudden they become the “Bay Area’s Team?”

    You can’t have it both ways buddy.

    Your whole post reeks of the San Fran Superiority Complex that sickens us.

    Like I said, Get On Our Level!

  • robert rowell

    somebody needs a hug.

    the W’s are the bay area’s team. saying otherwise is pretty silly. even when the W’s move to sf, they’ll still be the bay area’s team. as to the rest of your meandering spleen vent directed at everything and anything SF, chill out. please stop putting words in my or any of these other “arrogant” san franciscans mouth’s and then making arguments against them. i hear that you’re angry, but the good news is, the W’s are still the bay area’s team and we’re all gonna still root for them.

  • mark

    Marcus,
    you are way to hard on our new owners. they aren’t trying to win a beauty pageant by making all the right moves and satisfying everyone. give them a break and tell oakland fans to stop whining, you can still make it to the games easily from the eastbay, i’ve been doing it for years now and I live in the south bay. the warriors are a bay area team, not just oaktown’s own team.

  • dknight.007

    Marcus,

    Your finally getting it guy.

    The rich 1% owners should have worked with Oakland to get Coliseum City done, instead of lying and saying they are looking at all options.

    They ONLY reason Lacob and Goober are going to SF is to increase the value of franchise so they can sell and make millions of dollars more and be even more rich.

    Nice huh?

    What a joke!

  • dknight.007

    The Warriors hard core REAL fans are from the East Bay and Tri Valley areas….they are not from fairweather fan SF.

  • dknight.007

    robert rowell Says:
    May 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    oh dear god. the W’s are the BAY AREA’s team. not oakland’s. you really need to get over it. first and foremost, SF is light years ahead of the town. no disrespect, but oakland is little brother to the city. people come from all over the world to visit, work, innovate, create — in SF. again, i have love for the whole bay area, but please, stop acting like a child when the obvious spot — for it’s cultural, economical, artistic, historic legacy — is where the people want to be.

    second– get off the “small market” crap. it’s just pure garbage. the bay area is the 5th largest media market in the country. fact. that’s not small market by a long shot.

    this is the bay area’s team. i can’t reiterate that enough. as a longtime resident of SF, i’ve gone to the Bore-icle (CULB 200!!!) hundreds of times. now you all can come over here, stay for dinner, maybe hit a few bars, whatever floats your boat. the complete experience will be better than what we as fans have now.

    the W’s have just as many diehard fans here in the city as anywhere else. take a walk around any neighborhood and you’ll see folks sporting W’s colors. we all love the team, we’ll all continue to love them. stop the SF bashing because that’s not what the bay area is about.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Huh? More like stop the Oakland bashing. Oakland is not that bad of a place. It gets a bad rap.

    The only bad part of Oakland is EAST OAKLAND.

  • dknight.007

    The problem is SF and the fans of SF sports teams are so freakin annoyingly ARROGANT acting like their g*y city crap doesn’t stink. Hello…the TENDORLOIN area? Ewwww….

    Now that is the problem!

  • cmart

    I’ve been an Oakland resident for 10 years running. Before that in SF for 10 years and born and raised in San Jose.

    Growing up we drove an hour each way and I know I’m not alone. Marcus, the W’s have never been Oakland’s team, they just play there. Of the big three sports they are unique in that they are the entire Bay Area’s team.

    Proud to be an Oaklander but Marcus in trying to give 510 Dubs fans their due you’re. not recognizing everyone else who makes it a special place no matter what side of the bay they play.

  • Dom

    I really hope this story doesn’t get any national attention, how embarrassing. There’s so many people around the country facing real problems, and were wasting time & energy on crap like this? WAKE UP it’s only a 15 mile move. If you seriously have the time in your lives to worry about something this small, you should consider yourselves lucky. Only people I feel bad for are the employees at Oracle, and I really hope the Warriors offer them employment at the new arena. However the rest of you seem extremely petty, acting like this is somehow “your team”.

    By the way Mr. Thompson, you lose validity in your argument on the confession that you too moved out of Oakland. Oh that’s right, it wasn’t that they moved, it was how they SAID IT. Because of course these upset Warrior fans in Oakland would have been just fine with the move if they had only said it differently. What a joke!

  • dknight007

    93.Dom Says:
    May 25th, 2012 at 8:41 am
    I really hope this story doesn’t get any national attention, how embarrassing. There’s so many people around the country facing real problems, and were wasting time & energy on crap like this? WAKE UP it’s only a 15 mile move. If you seriously have the time in your lives to worry about something this small, you should consider yourselves lucky. Only people I feel bad for are the employees at Oracle, and I really hope the Warriors offer them employment at the new arena. However the rest of you seem extremely petty, acting like this is somehow “your team”.

    By the way Mr. Thompson, you lose validity in your argument on the confession that you too moved out of Oakland. Oh that’s right, it wasn’t that they moved, it was how they SAID IT. Because of course these upset Warrior fans in Oakland would have been just fine with the move if they had only said it differently. What a joke!

    ^^^^^^^^
    The REAL fans of the W’s from the East Bay and Tri Valley Areas have paid and sacrificed there fair share of money in support of losing franchise for over 30 years.

    Going an extra 20 minutes to see the crappy team play night in and night out with over inflated prices at an overpriced new Arena in SF where there will be traffic problems and transportation problems, is a big difference.

    If the Warriors are the “Bay Area’s team”, then why will 1%’s like Lacob and Guber name the team San Francisco Warriors instead of keeping them the Golden State Warriors when they move to SF?

    When they were here in Oakland, why didn’t they name them the Oakland Warriors?

    Think about it….you arrogant SF fairweather soft fans!

  • dknight007

    Marcus,

    Your finally getting it guy.

    The rich 1% owners should have worked with Oakland to get Coliseum City done, instead of lying and saying they are looking at all options.

    They ONLY reason Lacob and Goober are going to SF is to increase the value of franchise so they can sell and make millions of dollars more and be even more rich.

    Nice huh?

    What a joke!

  • jjbiggs

    “The rich try to get richer.” And that’s the reason some of you are crying? That’s life in this capitalistic country. If you don’t like it, move out! The move across the bay will be amazing. Fans are emotional about it, and they should be, as they are FANS. I think that’s pretty much the definition of it… irrational or not. To me, the bottom line is the owners are trying to make the franchise better. If that means having a new arena, serving garlic fries at concession stands, and moving Ellis for Bogut, then so-be-it. I’m just happy they’re TRYING! I was born & raised in the East Bay and love the Warriors. The fact that it’ll be a few BART stops further does not make me cringe. In fact, it’ll be amazing to spend some time in SF and not just walk the concrete walk back to colliseum bart station. Hopefully, share a beer and enjoy some victories that the new ownership has trailblazed for us! In time… all fans will be happy with the move.

  • Dom

    Thanks Dknight007:

    But as you know the current ownership group didn’t name them the “Golden State” Warriors, and they purchased the right to now name the team whatever they want. Personally I could care less what they call themselves as long as they start producing a winning product on the court. Now I’m not sure why they weren’t named the Oakland Warriors after making the move from SF, but seems a bit late to pretend like that’s an issue now.

    Also I live on the Peninsula not San Francisco, and fans like us have been making the commute for many years. So throwing out jabs like “you arrogant SF fairweather soft fans” as if the whole Bay Area is against you, well comes off as immature and petty. And let’s please not pretend that ticket prices wouldn’t have shot up if the team moved to Jack London Square.

    So if an extra 15 mile commute is too much for you, then don’t make it. However don’t ask others who’ve made much longer commutes for sympathy. And if an extra commute time is the limit of your support, well your obviously free to make that decision. Curious what X-Sonic fans up in Seattle think of your argument while there stuck watching the Thunder play on tv.

  • Martina

    Wow, it’s pretty clear, Oakland has a bad case of the Second City Blues.

    What’s sad is that Oakland continued to kiss Al Davis’s ass even as Al moved the team to L.A., not once blaming Al, instead blaming the Coliseum Commission for not caving in to all of his demands.

  • ArmChair GM

    Imagine being a guy who meets a woman and falls in love. When you first met her, she didn’t have a job or a place to stay. But that didn’t matter…You love her anyway.

    You cherish her and care for her…You protect her and keep her safe…You BELIEVE in her…You inspire her…You spend quality time with her…You’re committed and faithful to her…You hang her picture up at your desk at work…You tell all your friends about her…She loses her job, and gets sick, so you support her…You cover all her bills…You pay her way through college…Through all the good and bad times you are always there for her…You even buy her a ring and get down on one knee for her…

    But despite all of this she NEVER claims you in public. When people ask her if she’s single she says “I have a FRIEND”, but it’s not anything serious.” She never shows any of her friends a picture of you. She never even wears her ring in public. Then to top it off, you find out that she’s been seeing another guy.

    Do any of you know a woman like this? I do. Her name is the Golden State Warriors!!! The guy that got played is the City of Oakland!!!

  • ArmChair GM

    See this is what posters like Dom and Robert Rowell don’t, or are refusing to acknowledge and understand.

    It has nothing to do with driving an extra 15 minutes to SF.

    Would it feel better if your Wife left you for the next door neighbor instead of the guy across town?!? Proximity has NOTHING To do with it!

    It has to do with the fact that the Warriors organization have NEVER even CLAIMED US as its HOST CITY! That is virtually UNHEARD of in Professional sports. Especially when you have MULTIPLE teams that play in that same State or area!

    After DECADES of LOYALTY to a team that was going nowhere when we took them in…And continued to go nowhere on the basketball court for most of its existence, Oakland will NEVER even be remembered for its loyalty.

    When Lacob inevitably changes the name of the team to the San Francisco Warriors, which he inevitably will, Oakland will be nothing more than a passing footnote in the history of this team.

    Oakland, the City that stepped up in the tune of 100,000,000 when the Warriors were essentially homeless. But it will not even be mentioned when the team finally reaches its Glory Years.

    The fans, citizens,and City officials that stood by the Warriors with their support and their MONEY when nobody else would, deserve far better than this!

    Wrap your reading comprehension skills around that Dom and Robert Rowell!