It sounds like it’ll be awhile for Bogut … patience advised

Carl Steward here, filling in for Marcus Thompson today …

Admit it, Warriors fan, you’re starting to get impatient and maybe a little steamed about this Andrew Bogut situation. Did the Warriors get a lemon for Monta Ellis, one they’ll never see squeezed of its once-formidable talent on the court? Bogut played in four of the first games this season after spending the past five months since the Warriors acquired him rehabbing his surgically reconstructed left ankle. Things looked promising. But now he’s missed nine straight games, is assured of missing the next two, and could miss at least a few more after that.

“It’s still sore and it’s just not right yet,” Bogut said Tuesday. “When I try to train for extended periods, it just doesn’t respond well. Until I can get through a week’s worth of full practices, I’m back to where I am now.”

Which is rehabbing on the treadmill and exercise bike, doing some very light running and some touch shooting. None of the aggressive stuff he is known for. He can’t practice yet, let alone play, and if this sounds like a novel going bad, you can’t be blamed for your pessimism.

Bogut says he’ll be out there when it’s right, and the Warriors aren’t pressuring him. But it’s reasonable to wonder: After what the club went through with Stephen Curry last season, will it ever be right enough this year for Bogut to make a significant impact?

It’s frustrating, to be sure, but the Warriors had to know when they acquired Bogut they were getting some measure of damaged goods. Yet, to them, it was worth the risk to acquire an impact center if they could somehow fix this ankle problem. And there may be a happy ending before it’s all said and done. First, the Warriors haven’t been unduly stressed by Bogut being out. They’re 8-6, tied atop in the Pacific Division, and with the Warriors, anything over .500 is like grazing in clover. Second, they have the example of Curry to know that eventually, this should come around. Knock on wood, Curry hasn’t had any ankle issues this season after looking last season like he may have a chronic problem with serious sprains.

Dr. Richard Ferkel, who performed reconstructive surgery on Curry, also did Bogut’s procedure. And with big men, these things always take longer. And ankles in general take time. Take it from an ex-hoopster who sprained both ankles many times over in his day.

Fans may shudder in horror at the thought, but if Bogut isn’t ready by midseason, it wouldn’t be that dramatic from this view. Just get the guy right. Don’t push him. You’ve got Andris Biedrins and rookie Festus Ezeli, so at least you have some bigs to take up space, and David Lee can always handle the position some in crunch time. If Bogut isn’t 100 percent by midseason, then maybe you have a problem. But for now, the Warriors aren’t going to have mismatches in the post that often. Not that many teams have elite big men, so Golden State can get by.

To make a playoff push, Bogut eventually will have be a factor. But it’s a long season, and we’re just 14 games into it. As long as the Warriors don’t start losing touch with the top eight in the Western Conference, there’s no reason to get too filled with angst. Get riled up after 30-40 games and we’re still twiddling in the same situation, listening to talk of rehabs and blood injections.

If the Warriors had a chance to trade back for Ellis, it’s not likely they’d do it. They know what’s at stake — to get to the playoffs, to be a player in the West, they need a solid all-around center, and Bogut was the best they were going to get.  That they’ve done so well without him is admirable. So bite your lip, hold your tongue, calm your nerves and try to be patient. It’s a bit like trying to tell an 8-year-old you’re still three hours from Disneyland — a bit fruitless — but that’s where it’s at.

I can recall the days when the Warriors traded for Ralph Sampson. Anticipation was high for his arrival, until it was quickly realized once he took the court that his knees were shot. He played OK, but he wasn’t the Sampson of his Houston days and never would be. Bogut, by all indications, doesn’t have an injury that won’t heal. Unlike knees, ankles do get better.







Marcus Thompson

  • Dan

    Wish I could share your confidence about Bogut’s ankle fully healing eventually. That being said, I totally agree about not rushing him back and midseason being an ok return time. With Curry healthy (knock on wood), Barnes being a revelation, Klay rounding into form, Ezeli already being a pretty good center who’s only going to improve, Biedrins actually providing helpful minutes, Landry and Jack providing starter-quality minutes from the bench and Green being a plus player, this team can contend for the playoffs without Bogut, barring further injury. When/if he comes back, they can make a push for the 6 or maybe even 5 seed.

  • Dillymac

    Bogut is a pipe dream he will NEVER make an impact as a Warrior. They traded Monte for nothing, which is the same I would’ve done except I would’ve gotten a bag of balls instead of a broken Australian sloth that’s going to cost millions and never see the basketball court!

    We’ve been biting our lips and being patient since 1975?!

    How much longer are we supposed to wait???

    Hoping for a broken Australian sloth to be unbroken (which he won’t) is not my idea of being a Warriors fan! I’m fed up and am tired of this crappy ownership and there lousy GM who don’t know his keester from a hole in the ground! If he was such a great agent why’d he switch jobs? Because he was as lost as an agent as he is a GM!

  • DW

    damaged goods. period.

  • Steve

    Dillymac, you mean that same “crappy ownership and lousy GM” who drafted Klay Thompson, Charles Jenkins, Harrison Barnes, Festus Ezeli and Draymond Green? AND who also signed Carl Landry and Jarrett Jack to FA contracts? You mean those guys? Yep, I hear you. Not a clue what they’re doing. Happy Holidays!

  • Derek

    #2, Dillymac. I will agree Meyers blew it on the Monta/Bogus deal, however, if you exclude that trade, the guy has been lights out. He’s a huge upgrade over both Riley, Mullin and the other cast of clowns from the past. Meyers deserves praise for finally providing the team with a balanced roster. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he is able to broker a trade exchanging AB and his huge expiring contract for a quality starting center. Maybe Okafur or a guy of that caliber, now playing for a loser.

  • KR1S_G

    I think ppl forget what else the trade involved. Without this trade, warriors DONT get Ezeli, RJ, and most likely Barnes. Yes its too bad bogut isnt healthy yet, but the team is 8-6! I dont think a core of curry, monta, lee, and udoh would get them very far.. esp with biedrins as the only center on the team. Good trade in my opinion.. great trade if bogut comes around.

  • slamdunk

    Please no more “projected dates” when Bogut will be back. That has been the worst part hearing that he will be back “next Saturday” or “in the next couple of games”. It is bad enough that he still cannot play, but this is like Lacob, and Jackson promising that last year’s team was playoff ready…just a bunch of crap.

  • I think GSW (mis)management should have been more reticent in this entire approach. They should have exercised more caution & @ least “elude” to the recovery timeframe more in line with 12 months from the initial injury. That puts Bogut out until mid to late January.

    Why should a catastrophic injury like that suffered by Bogut be minimized in comparison to an ACL or patella knee injury? Of course this would have led to speculation to the ill fated “microfracture” reference but medial & fan pressure would have been alleviated. . .& pressure from all parties involved upon Bogut would have been minimized. A Bogut on one limb for 65 + contests is worse than a Bogut on TWO limbs for 50-55 games. This is unchartered water, to be sure; but I think GSW (mis)management would hedge against further setbacks & maximizing his long term effectiveness (and retaining his long term FA services) byt erring on the side of caution; which should have been the tact from day one. . .

    Can’t see how an effective team like the Warriors are hoping for (every indication is that sans Bogut the W’s can be that team. . .thank you Stephen Curry, knock on wood, Harrison Barnes & his fellow rookies & Klay Thompson)if they are successful in their San Francisco relocation strategy wouldn’t be attractive to a healthy & contributing Bogut. But unneeded outside pressure would contribute to Bogut’s own relocation strategy. . .

  • Grey Warden

    I agree with #7 Slamdunk; they’ve pretty much missed every targeted date with Bogut. At this point, I don’t believe anything they say about his timetable for returning. Honestly, I don’t even think Bogut will even play again this season. He’ll be lucky if he even played 5 full games (none of this restricted minutes bull), let alone 1.

  • Fire Bob Fitzgerald

    Meet Carl Steward, the wild eyed, don’t worry be happy, optimist.

  • John Starks

    I’m willing to trade the remainder of my W’s season tix for Raiders tix. Any takers, hit me up at redaries510@gmail.com

  • Skeet

    Patience is thin in Warrior land!

    That being said, the Warriors are progressing in a positive way without sacrificing youth…yes this is a team with playoff potential but if you analyze at what are future holds you can see the pattern of productivity being set in place…were trying to sustain success instead of stumble across it….its a stand up world and were trying to stand up to the face of our problems…….

    Our rebounding is just short of outstanding and that is the result of ONE draft alone…

    The depth is slowly but surely emerging as a legitimate NBA bench with good potential and value…..also absorbing inevitable injuries every team will suffer I.E Bogut..Rush

    The Warriors contracts situation is also going to be pretty good once Biedrens & Jefferson come off the books.

    Although this will probably be another mediocre season, it should show great promise of what is unfolding in Warrior land…Without Bogut Rush and hell possibly Curry I think we can have some succes just because of the foundation being set these days…

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